Report: E3 2007's Santa Monica Venue Cost ESA $5 Million
Report: E3 2007's Santa Monica Venue Cost ESA $5 Million
May 19, 2008
Kotaku is reporting today that the ESA paid a $5 million penalty last year to move E3 out of Los Angeles and into nearby Santa Monica. The penalty was triggered by the ESA's decision to break a contractual agreement to hold the event in L.A. through 2012.
According to the report, the penalty, coupled with significantly lower revenues from the downsized E3 resulted in significant dues increases for member companies. The jump in dues may have triggered Activision, Vivendi and LucasArts to rescind their membership in the ESA, which represents the interests of US video game publishers.
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Posted 11/08/09 at 01:07am
Austin_Lewis: Health insurance, brought to you by the same kind of bureacrats who couldn't, in timely fashion, investigate the comments of any of the men Obama appointed Czars. Or their past. Or their history of not paying taxes.
Austin_Lewis: Health insurance, brought to you by the same kind of bureacrats who couldn't, in timely fashion, investigate the comments of any of the men Obama appointed Czars. Or their past. Or their history of not paying taxes.
Posted 11/08/09 at 01:06am
Austin_Lewis: Yes, and what a piece of crap it was. Arresting and fining people just because they don't make a personal choice to buy healh insurance, creating over a hundred new bureacracies, and worse.
Austin_Lewis: Yes, and what a piece of crap it was. Arresting and fining people just because they don't make a personal choice to buy healh insurance, creating over a hundred new bureacracies, and worse.
Posted 11/08/09 at 12:24am
ZippyDSMlee: JDKJ:the only trouble is a bunch of witless hacks wrote it....its going to be a train wreck....
ZippyDSMlee: JDKJ:the only trouble is a bunch of witless hacks wrote it....its going to be a train wreck....
Posted 11/07/09 at 11:33pm
JDKJ: BREAKING: In a photo-finish at the wire, House passes health care reform bill. Relatedly, in a fit of pique, Austin Lewis kicks innocent dog.
JDKJ: BREAKING: In a photo-finish at the wire, House passes health care reform bill. Relatedly, in a fit of pique, Austin Lewis kicks innocent dog.
Posted 11/07/09 at 04:27pm
ZippyDSMlee: man I got alot of junk and dup files too >< god I need orginization...and no not the knee capping media mafia kind :P
ZippyDSMlee: man I got alot of junk and dup files too >< god I need orginization...and no not the knee capping media mafia kind :P
Posted 11/07/09 at 04:26pm
ZippyDSMlee: replaced :P
ZippyDSMlee: replaced :P
Posted 11/07/09 at 04:23pm
ZippyDSMlee: beemoh:hey its like 60GB porn,400GB anime 100GB games and crap I have took from all my DVDs, I hate waiting on dvds to install stuff..... oh and 40GB of my porn was in the found.000 folder...mostly corrupted.... least I got names of wut needs to be repa
ZippyDSMlee: beemoh:hey its like 60GB porn,400GB anime 100GB games and crap I have took from all my DVDs, I hate waiting on dvds to install stuff..... oh and 40GB of my porn was in the found.000 folder...mostly corrupted.... least I got names of wut needs to be repa
Posted 11/07/09 at 04:18pm
beemoh: @Zip: ...and you'd have to spend all that time re-downloading that porn?
beemoh: @Zip: ...and you'd have to spend all that time re-downloading that porn?
Posted 11/07/09 at 03:34pm
ZippyDSMlee: ggrrrrr......vista lost one of my hard drives and I had a heart attack thinking I lost 1TB of data....
ZippyDSMlee: ggrrrrr......vista lost one of my hard drives and I had a heart attack thinking I lost 1TB of data....
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:58am
JDKJ: Which could be explained by both (a) and (b).
JDKJ: Which could be explained by both (a) and (b).
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:56am
Austin_Lewis: JDKJ: You forgot C) the fact that, for some reason, every time he did something that would suggest he shouldn't be in the military, let alone an officer, higher ups ignored it or let it slide.
Austin_Lewis: JDKJ: You forgot C) the fact that, for some reason, every time he did something that would suggest he shouldn't be in the military, let alone an officer, higher ups ignored it or let it slide.
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:51am
JDKJ: Part of the problem is, I believe, that (a) the Army had a lot of time and money already invested in him and which they were unwilling to simply write-off and (b) an increasing need for the type of skills and services he provided.
JDKJ: Part of the problem is, I believe, that (a) the Army had a lot of time and money already invested in him and which they were unwilling to simply write-off and (b) an increasing need for the type of skills and services he provided.
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:48am
JDKJ: And that even if he was begging not to get cut loose, he was apparently a real good candidate for being cut loose, anyway.
JDKJ: And that even if he was begging not to get cut loose, he was apparently a real good candidate for being cut loose, anyway.
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:11am
JDKJ: @chada: And while Kennedy once noted that there's usually more than enough blame for everyone to get a slice, the possibility that the Army was unwilling to cut loose someone who was asking to get cut loose could be a factor.
JDKJ: @chada: And while Kennedy once noted that there's usually more than enough blame for everyone to get a slice, the possibility that the Army was unwilling to cut loose someone who was asking to get cut loose could be a factor.
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:07am
ZippyDSMlee: *noms on his feet*..nomnomnomnom*droooll* ...wuuutttttt uuu looking at?
ZippyDSMlee: *noms on his feet*..nomnomnomnom*droooll* ...wuuutttttt uuu looking at?
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:05am
JDKJ: I'm no psychologist, but I'm told that crazy people have a tendency to do crazy things.
JDKJ: I'm no psychologist, but I'm told that crazy people have a tendency to do crazy things.
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:03am
chadachada321: Whoops, was out of the convo for awhile. I do wonder what type of ammo he used etc, but the real issue is WHY he did it, not HOW
chadachada321: Whoops, was out of the convo for awhile. I do wonder what type of ammo he used etc, but the real issue is WHY he did it, not HOW
Posted 11/07/09 at 09:56am
JDKJ: But if it turns out that they actually did, they'll have Hell to pay.
JDKJ: But if it turns out that they actually did, they'll have Hell to pay.
Posted 11/07/09 at 09:45am
JDKJ: And I'd tend to rule out the possibilty of FN Herstal supplying restricted ammunition to someone merely because they're ordering it from a military base.
JDKJ: And I'd tend to rule out the possibilty of FN Herstal supplying restricted ammunition to someone merely because they're ordering it from a military base.
Posted 11/07/09 at 09:37am
JDKJ: I know you don't leave your gated community and get around much in dark alleys, so you may be surprised to learn that there's this thing called "the black market" where, if you've got enough money, ain't too much of anything which can't be bought.
JDKJ: I know you don't leave your gated community and get around much in dark alleys, so you may be surprised to learn that there's this thing called "the black market" where, if you've got enough money, ain't too much of anything which can't be bought.
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It all becomes so apparent now... The ESA's actions resulted in the members paying more dues so the members left.
Beautiful.
ESA, your hens have come home to roost.
. . Wisdom begins in wonder. - Socrates . .
Glad to see some light being shed on this mystery. Paying more money for less service. Yeah, I would quit too.
E. Zachary Knight
www.editorialgames.com
Hehe the ESA sounds like most Australian ISPs
Frankly the E3 lost all relevance for me when the most anticipated feature on most of the sites reporting on it was the booth babe gallery. An appropriate analogy would be the superbowl, I'm old enough to remember when it used to be about football rather than ads & half time bollocks, it used to be worth watching & now it's just a crap waste of transmission bandwidth.
I liked the idea of a reigned in E3, a smaller event focussing on the business at hand rather than the superficial flashiness but, like most good ideas, they screwed it up.
Now the question is.... did the ESA learn from their mistake?
"I'm not responcabel fer my comuter's spleling errnors." -- Xlorep DarkHelm
Man.... the ESA fucked over E3 hardcore. What were they thinking? "Ooh... I have an idea. Let's alienate all the consumers by banning them from attending, then lets downgrade it's size so it makes less money, then lets break contract and move somewhere else costing us $5 mil more. It's brilliant"
That's the problem though, E3 wasn't meant to be a show for consumers, and it was drifting away from it's original purpose.
I do see a valid reason now as to why the three left the ESA, and even better why a few are choosing not to participate. The awards debacle is interesting though, please keep us up to date on that, GP.
---- There is a limit for both politicians against video games, and video games against politicians.
The ESA made E3 pointless, pure and simple.
Their first mistake I think was the invitation only, it alienated several gaming publications, and scaling it back made it far less exciting, so I doubt anyone even wanted to attend.
And giving away swag, E3 was basically Disneyland using Cartman's "You can't come" taunt.
They really should consider a show just for consumers, oh, wait, sorry, we're all criminals.
-kurisu7885
That's the Federal Pen.
E. Zachary Knight
www.editorialgames.com
Well that certainly makes a lot of sense. I'd be ticked if someone made a decision that cost big dollars just to have them decide it's YOUR problem to fix their mistake. Not to mention I'm sure these companies made their problems clear before jumping ship. ESA has failed miserably.
-Loudspeaker
"Volume helps to get a point across but sharp teeth are better."
And didn't we all say that the downsized E3 was a bad idea years ago?