13-year-old Pulls Knife on Teacher, Demands Money to Buy GTA

May 29, 2008 -

The Associated Press is reporting that a 13-year-old middle school student in Framingham, Massachusetts menaced his teacher with a knife in an attempt to get money to purchase Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas.

From the AP report:

Police Lt. Paul Shastany says... the male student stayed behind after the other students had left the classroom, pulled the 11-inch knife and asked for $20. After [the teacher] refused, he lowered his demand to $1. The teacher took the knife from the student.

 

Shastany says the boy wanted to buy the video game "Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas" but his mother refused to give him the money, so he came up with an alternate plan.


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Re: 13-year-old Pulls Knife on Teacher, Demands Money to Buy GTA

Im 13 years old and i think this kid is a really fucking morron get a fucking life you duche bag and btw you could have ask you mom to get it for you. you prick

Re: 13-year-old Pulls Knife on Teacher, Demands Money to Buy GTA

that fuka is a retard!And beli dat shit!!!!!!

Re: 13-year-old Pulls Knife on Teacher, Demands Money to Buy GTA

HAHHA THATS MY TOWN!!

The thing is, this doesnt surprise me that much. Framingham is messed up pretty hardcore

Re: 13-year-old Pulls Knife on Teacher, Demands Money to Buy GTA

hehe

Re: 13-year-old Pulls Knife on Teacher, Demands Money to Buy GTA

Wait a second. What was he going to do the next day when he saw his teacher in class? Say that he's sorry he pulled a knife on him. It Doesn't make sense.

Re: 13-year-old Pulls Knife on Teacher, Demands Money to Buy GTA

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

 

Stupid twit!

Re: 13-year-old Pulls Knife on Teacher, Demands Money to Buy GTA

this is some funny stuff! where he got the knife is definitely a question id like to ask. but then again, where do underaged kids get guns to shoot up their schools. Hm...parents maybe? And they just buy them all the guns they want without question. But NO! Bad Johnny can't have GTA cuz it violent.

Wait, that wasn't even the issue mentioned. He just couldnt have the money. You know she probably bought it for his birthday and it was sitting in the closet juuuuuust out of sight of where he got the knife. Gah! Damn those strategically well-hidden gifts and the obviously easy to find, fully-loaded ready to attack weapons that parents know how to hide so well!

Get's me every Christmas....

Re: 13-year-old Pulls Knife on Teacher, Demands Money to Buy GTA

a guy at my job just got fired for selling a M-rated game to a 14-year old secret shopper. video games is serious business.

I thought.....

At GP:I thought Jack was banned from this site?

Get back to us please,we're sick and tired of his bullswit.

Re: I thought.....

HA HA HA ! My evil is far too powerful to be stoped by a mere IP ban !

Re: 13-year-old Pulls Knife on Teacher, Demands Money to Buy GTA

Lol. This kid seems more like a crackhead then someone wanting to buy a game.

Re: 13-year-old Pulls Knife on Teacher, Demands Money to Buy GTA

@Jack Thompson:

It's dumb, snide comments like that which lose you personal support among gamers on issues where quite a few of us would otherwise agree with you. You don't win over anyone by insulting either them or a group they belong to.

Re: 13-year-old Pulls Knife on Teacher, Demands Money to Buy GTA

I find it amazing how one simple comment by THE jack thompson could lenghten the the amount of comments posted on such a small report. (I blame myself too)

But, looking figuratively.... I doubt he'd have the time to read posts with the Florida Board up his ass.

I guess since he about to lose his license, its best to let it all out while we can.

Because of this, can somebody do something constructive to at least annoy JT as much as he does us? (I lack that ability, any suggestions?)

___________

Jack Thompson, LVL. 5 Attorney...,

Strenghts - Braying (like a jackass), good against fax machines

Weaknesses - poor constitution (physically, mentally and judicially), silver

Attributes - gains HP by eating civil liberties and human hearts

Re: 13-year-old Pulls Knife on Teacher, Demands Money to Buy GTA

my face hurts from facepalming myself. And why, oh why, would he buy San Andreas? GTA IV is where its at!

Re: 13-year-old Pulls Knife on Teacher, Demands Money to Buy GTA

My guess is that the kid's parents also refused to buy him any of the current game consoles. So rather than trying to extort money for a console, he's starting "small" with a video game. Remember, baby steps people.

Re: 13-year-old Pulls Knife on Teacher, Demands Money to Buy GTA

if you're interested in reading research on what the experts CAN ACTUALLY CONCLUDE about violence in videogames translating to real world actions, check out Grand Theft Childhood: the Surprising Truth About Violent Videogames.

It's a great read, and really sheds light on the amount of misinformation and innacurate studies that conservatives largely cite when making the argument that videogames (and more specifically, the gta series) leads to violence... bad parenting leads to violence, and parents should be controlling the amount of income and physical objects their underage children are acquiring.

the esrb rating system has it's flaws, but is in place for a reason. maybe parents should spend more time abiding by it's recommendations than complaining about content their kids can't handle... or maybe they should just try spending more time with their kids in general, and then they wouldn't have cause for complaints.

Re: 13-year-old Pulls Knife on Teacher, Demands Money to Buy GTA

This isn't about GTA IV containing violence. This is about GTA IV being a highly sought-after item. If this kid wanted something really bad and it was out of his reach, he'd probably use the same strategy to get it (if he didn't get arrested already).

"That\'s why gamers are calling me and threatening to kill me."

You being a dick has more influence on their behavior.

Re: 13-year-old Pulls Knife on Teacher, Demands Money to Buy GTA

I'm not really even certain how to comment on something like this. In the first place, I don't know how my parents would've reacted if I'd tried to stick somebody up with a knife at 13. But I know for certain they'd have not been happy about it, and would've damn certain made me unhappy about it by proxy.  In the second place, I've had allot of teachers in my day, but I'm willing to be a decent percentage of them wouldn't be easily menaced. I had a little five-foot-nothing, english, blond philosophy professor in college, but cmon, she was too damn cute to stick up for anything but her phone number.  Considering that this kid was dumb enough to think that 20 bucks and GTA:SA was worth it, I'm willing to bet there's some developmental issues there that haven't been said.  Am I the only one wondering why he didn't just stick up the store?

I gather Jack paid us a visit, and demanded brain scans or some such.  Can't find the original post.  Does it matter that I've already had a brain scan?  Oh wait, I forgot, "I" am not a statistical sample.  (Actually, I don't have a problem with that point, where it kind of all falls apart is when he tells 10 people in a row that they are not a statistical sample.) I thought I saw a post somewhere cring about threats.  Meh.  Some sympathy, because let's face it, threats are not funny, but where he loses me is in a complete unwillingness to even consider that his own actions play some part in this.

Maybe if he just calmed the (bleep) down, and pursued his agenda reasonably... I know several of the more conservative christians on the board have actually tried to have reasonable discussions with him. (sigh)  I find it curious how many casual references have been around about his family lately.  People calling his wife Patricia, and expressing sympathy that she's sick.  I agree, it's sad that she's sick, but I find it strange how people who've never even met her sympathize with her situation.  I think I'm starting to understand that mentality a bit.  Let's face it, no sympathy at all for the jack-ster, he's left the building, he's reaping what he's sown, but I do think it's regrettable that others may get caught in the crossfire.

I think, what I would love to see explained in the media, and I almost never do, is how "gamers" are (when you get right down to it) just like any other group of people.  Usually the media just harps on some demographic feature, like "gamers are getting older", or "games are getting more complex."  But the fact is I don't really care what religion, age, console preference, ethnic background, whatever.  Gamers have got some good people, some REALLY BAD people, and a whole lot of people that end up somewhere inbetween. However, because games are still by and large viewed as immature/socially gauche', the majority culture then focuses on the bad. I don't know what, if anything, we can do about that, but I do find it ironic that Jack apparently has no appreciation of the basic irony that he complains he's being demonized for his own religious beliefs, and hardly ever stops doing onto others what he would not have done to himself.

"Even if it was online gaming that somehow inspired him to kill his parents, he must have realised at some point that they wouldn't drop any good loot." - GP member, Doomsong

Re: 13-year-old Pulls Knife on Teacher, Demands Money to Buy GTA

Is this kid really that stupid?

Re: 13-year-old Pulls Knife on Teacher, Demands Money to Buy GTA

Sigh... you fail kid. You FAIL.

Well this proves it

This PROVES that Grand theft auto IV is a better game. People were committing robbery to get GTA IV less than two months after it came out.  It took a couple of YEARS for a kid to rob someone over San Andreas.

Now grand theft auto IV produces MUCH better criminals. The San Andreas guy tried to rob someone for the money to buy the game whilethe GTA IV guy chose to cut out the middleman and rob the game directly (and he used non-lethal tactic to make sure he gets a lower sentence if he does get caught).

Oh and if you really think about it, the San Andreas kid was SO damn stupid. Not in the fact that he robbed someone just how he did it.

Think about it, he robbed his teacher, HIS TEACHER. The women who sees his face at least around 5 hours a week. Now of course unless this was the last day of school, he would have to go back to school THE VERY NEXT DAY (it was a tuesday) and see his teacher/victim again. Even if we assume he had some form of block scheduling and wouldn't see her that would still mean the teacher would know exactly where he is and if he plays hookey (adding to his list of crimes) she'd still be able to look up his information and know where he lives. The same principle applies if he somehow had the next day off.

So the only way he could possibly have gotten away with this is if he ran away from home or if his teacher has SEVERE amnesia in which case she probably wouldn't be qualified enough to teach (of course there is a possibility that it was a sub but even then she could still look up his info). He really should have robbed a student he didn't know, then he would've had at least a plausible chance of getting away with it.

Oh and changing his demands from $20 to $1? YOU HAVE A KNIFE!! Why the hell didn't he use it or threaten to use it? Why the hell would he bring the knife then if he wasn't going to use it? What a moron. And he was willing to settle for a buck? My god if that's the case just flat out ask her for a buck (without the knife). Hell even if he asked for $20 he'd have a better shot at getting the cash then getting away with his robbery that reached new levels in death defying stupidity.

To the boy's mother: Get the kid the game. If he's going to be a criminal he should at least know the VERY BASICS of how to be a criminal. Hell he's so damn incompetent at being a criminal that anything that shows criminals in action would help him. 

This is your brain when you're an idiot that never uses logic or thinks things through (suprising that he has one huh?)

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Re: 13-year-old Pulls Knife on Teacher, Demands Money to Buy GTA

Where did he get the money for the 11 inch knife?

Re: 13-year-old Pulls Knife on Teacher, Demands Money to Buy GTA

I remember a kid in my school pulling a knife on a teacher. Of course, we barely had personal computers back then (TRS-80s) in school. I think he was motivated by the fact that he was failing. Or it could be that the POTENTIAL for GTA being created caused this incident. Damn you, GTA!

Re: 13-year-old Pulls Knife on Teacher, Demands Money to Buy GTA

But thanks to JT, even if he got the 20 bucks he would have been carded anyway right?

 

Stupid kid.

Re: 13-year-old Pulls Knife on Teacher, Demands Money to Buy GTA

If the kid pulled a knife to rob his teacher and make him buy him some weed, the media probably wouldn't even touch it.  

Re: 13-year-old Pulls Knife on Teacher, Demands Money to Buy GTA

News Flash: Video games obviously have no impact on kids\' attitudes and behaviors. That\'s why gamers are calling me and threatening to kill me. I think everyone who is a gamer who posts here should have a brain scan at Harvard. The scans will come back negative--no brains. Jack Thompson "

 

Dear Mr.Thomson,

L-O-L

you truely are amazing...and by amazing I mean amazingly immature and petty.  You never cease to amaze and astonish with your silly insults and come backs.  The only reason some "gamers" may threaten you is because a) you insult us as a gaming community and b) you happen to piss off the immature 8 year olds who shout things like this over XBL (X-Box Live since I'm sure you you might have thought it meant Extra Big Large) or they are the naturally aggressive type who happen to love video games.  And Im sure "Jack you suck" was heard as "Jack please die in a fire k-thx" in Jack-o-gram hearing.  So please do us a favor and have fun on June 4th ^_^

Also on this note...I wonder if Jack will turn into South Park's Al Gore and his Man-Bear-Pig after he is no longer a lawyer.

"My name is John Bruce "Jack" Thompson, former 1st ammandment expert, school shooting expert, video game violence expert and lawyer.  Im here to talk to you children about a very important issue and danger facing our country today, and that is Man-Game-Slug.  Half Man, Half Game, Half Slug.  He only appears when you play Video Games and then will use his super powers to suck out your brain and replace it with a killers...Im super Cerial." ^_^

 

Re: 13-year-old Pulls Knife on Teacher, Demands Money to Buy GTA

what a utter tw@ he really is a noob, FUCK YOU JACK! and the kid is called "ARSES11" most likely. hat a dickheaded pile of shit and cock!

Re: 13-year-old Pulls Knife on Teacher, Demands Money to Buy GTA

Okay, how does a 13-year-old hide an 11-inch knife?

 

 

Re: 13-year-old Pulls Knife on Teacher, Demands Money to Buy GTA

thats easy large book bag

Re: 13-year-old Pulls Knife on Teacher, Demands Money to Buy GTA

Could the knife do some damage or was the kid stupid enough to bring one of the things you eat dinner with?

Re: 13-year-old Pulls Knife on Teacher, Demands Money to Buy GTA

Sorry, pressed "post" instead of "preview".

Like the GTA4 queue shooting that actually happened half-a-mile away at East Croydon station, this sounds like tabloid journo hacks making it up as they go along.

Re: 13-year-old Pulls Knife on Teacher, Demands Money to Buy GTA

I don't think much of this story either. Where's the name of the boy, or the school, or the teacher? The game is years old, the $20-changed-to-$1-dollar demand doesn't ring true, and the policeman quoted is a spokesman, not an arresting officer. I give this a day before it's revealed as a hoax.

Am I the only one who thinks that GP has got sloppy recently? (cf. British Tory MP who WASN'T slamming games, despite what the headline said). I reckon this will be another example.

Re: 13-year-old Pulls Knife on Teacher, Demands Money to Buy GTA

man, if video games turn kids into criminals like this, i don't think we have anything to worry about...

Re: 13-year-old Pulls Knife on Teacher, Demands Money to Buy GTA

what.. he pulled a knife to get the money for SAN ANDREAS???

 

yeah right absolute BS

 

san andreas...  you can pick that up for like £5 now....

 

lol i love his second line ''After [the teacher] refused, he lowered his demand to $1''

 

 

 

Re: 13-year-old Pulls Knife on Teacher, Demands Money to Buy GTA

I smell bullshit.  This seems to be along the lines of the fake story about the kids playing Halo in a hotel and ordering hookers with a stolen credit card.  Being from AP makes it a bit more credible but something stinks about this.  Then again, maybe it is what it is.  Could have used some more detail.

I was wondering how Jack got back in until I saw the post about proxy.  How's GTA 4 btw?  Son enjoying it?  Found all the pigeons yet? 

Oh well.  After the Supreme Court is done with him he'll have to change his hand to Former Attourney.  MMM CROW!!!

Jack, If you happen to read this, would you kindly point out my spelling and grammar errors.  I love it when you do that.  I makes you my slave. 

Re: 13-year-old Pulls Knife on Teacher, Demands Money to Buy GTA

Great job, another kid fucks up and Jack Thompson and pals has more ammunition against video games.

Re: 13-year-old Pulls Knife on Teacher, Demands Money to Buy GTA

This same "ammunition" can be used on ANY retail product.  If he'd played the game then there'd be something to it, but he did this trying to acquire the game.

-Loudspeaker
"Volume helps to get a point across but sharp teeth are better."

"Volume helps to get a point across but sharp teeth are better."

Re: 13-year-old Pulls Knife on Teacher, Demands Money to Buy GTA

That's gonna get him another star. 

Re: 13-year-old Pulls Knife on Teacher, Demands Money to Buy GTA

How did he get a goddamn eleven inch knife? That is the real question here.

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Reality/////////////////////////////////////Fantasy. Seems like a pretty thick line to me...

Re: 13-year-old Pulls Knife on Teacher, Demands Money to Buy GTA

actually the question isn't where he got an 11 inch knife, as that honestly sounds about the size of commen butchers knife that can be found in just about any kitchen

 

the question is how he snuck said knife into school without getting caught

 

Re: 13-year-old Pulls Knife on Teacher, Demands Money to Buy GTA

i agree with these others, it's not that hard to get stuff into school...we used to wear take our huntin knives to school with us all the time (they were tons sharper than the crappy scalpels our science program had), of course i am in MT, we dont have as much of problems with crime in general as you bigger palces do, well, not violent crime anyways

Re: 13-year-old Pulls Knife on Teacher, Demands Money to Buy GTA

Being 15, I know it's not too hard to get anything into a school.

Hell, I could get an m-16 to schools with a large enough backpack, and my schools on a freaking military base ( they only check for drivers license, then let you through, big whoop). There's even less at other schools, it's not like we go through a security check everyday.

Re: 13-year-old Pulls Knife on Teacher, Demands Money to Buy GTA

Chances are he just took it out of the kitchen when his mom wasn't looking and stashed it in his bag. If he could wedge it in a book or something, he could carry it around no problem. Really, it's damn easy to sneak a weapon into school if you're careful.

Not that I know anything about that...

Re: 13-year-old Pulls Knife on Teacher, Demands Money to Buy GTA

The only thing this kid really needs is a one hell of a severe ass beatin.


 

Re: 13-year-old Pulls Knife on Teacher, Demands Money to Buy GTA

SHOCKED AND APPALED.

You really think that's going to help? That stuff is what makes kids violent in the first place; they learn nothing but to beat up people who, in their eyes, are doing something wrong. Which can vary wildly.

Re: 13-year-old Pulls Knife on Teacher, Demands Money to Buy GTA

And giving him a "time out" or telling him he did something "very wrong" wouldn't help either.

 

Re: 13-year-old Pulls Knife on Teacher, Demands Money to Buy GTA

Doesn't anything think that his parents perhaps put him up to this?  After all: San Andreas was hotly criticized for its "explicit" sexual material (even without Hot Coffee).  If the kid just has an original xbox, I wouldn't put it past parents who heard about other GTA lawsuits (and obviously not their conlclusions...) and figured they could sue on the premise that "lust for the 'immoral' game GTA:SA provoked our angelic son to attempt robbery with a deadly weapon (just like GTA!)".  Just like the man in NC (where I live) who recently cited GTA as an additional reason for his crimes (forgive my lack of detail, I know it was posted here)- GTA is a well known game, and the media and parents like to think that it is far worse than it truly is. 

 

Oh, on a side note, if the real Jack Thompson did post here, I'd like to remind him that GTA is not ultraviolent- games like Ninja Gaiden are- and wish him luck in court, he'll need it.

Re: 13-year-old Pulls Knife on Teacher, Demands Money to Buy GTA

The \ in JT's comments after a punctuation, typically this one ---> ' <--- , comes from using a proxy to avoid an IP ban.

Re: 13-year-old Pulls Knife on Teacher, Demands Money to Buy GTA

At least the \'s help us ID the real deal

Re: 13-year-old Pulls Knife on Teacher, Demands Money to Buy GTA

And here we thought he wouldn't know what a proxy is.

shows he can hardly live without this site.

 
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