Analyzing Jack Thompson's Would-be Witnesses
Analyzing Jack Thompson's Would-be Witnesses
May 29, 2008
As GamePolitics reported yesterday, controversial attorney Jack Thompson was unsuccessful in a bid to subpoena 33 witnesses for a June 4th sanctions hearing before Judge Dava Tunis.
Tunis, the Florida Supreme Court-appointed referee who presided over the Florida Bar's prosecution of professional misconduct charges against Thompson, quashed the subpoenas in response to a motion from the Bar. In doing so, Tunis ruled that:
[Thompson] is precluded from presenting witnesses or documentary evidence in mitigation in this case due to his failure to comply with the bar's discovery requests.
An order issued by Tunis in October, 2007 elaborates on what the referee terms Thompson's "failure to comply." The upshot is that Judge Tunis will not allow Thompson to subpoena witnesses for next week's hearing. Thompson has indicated that he will boycott the hearing.
In any event, GamePolitics has obtained the list of Thompson's proposed witnesses (although not from Thompson, who declined our request). Read on as we analyze the 33 names and guess at Thompson's legal strategy (never an easy task):
- Jeb Bush: Former Governor of Florida, brother of President Bush; Last week Thompson sent the ex-Guv a rant explaining (sort of) why he wanted him to appear.
- Strauss Zelnick: Chairman of Grand Theft Auto publisher Take-Two Interactive; a longtime target of Thompson's. Four of the five Bar complaints against Thompson stem from his involvement in cases targeting Take-Two games.
- Judge Ronald Friedman: presided over the 2006 Bully case; testified against Thompson at last year's Bar trial.
- Ian Comisky: Partner in Philadelphia law firm Blank-Rome; the firm defended Take-Two in Thompson's Alabama lawsuit and two of its attorneys testified against Thompson at last year's Bar trial.
- Norm Kent: Florida attorney who has represented shock radio in Florida; he and Thompson have a long and contentious legal history.
- Gwynne Alice Young: an attorney at the Miami firm where Thompson's wife is a partner; during the course of the Bar's prosecution against him, Thompson has been critical of what he claims is Judge Tunis's lack of sensitivity to his wife's battle against cancer; possibly related to that issue
- Various Past & Present Florida Bar officials: John Berry, Kenneth Marvin, Tony Boggs, Mary Ellen Bateman, John Harkness, Jan Wichrowski, Lorraine Hoffmann, Arlene Sankel, Barnaby Min, Frank Angones, Jesse Diner, Kelly Overstreet Johnson, Hank Coxe, Barry Richard, Ben Kuehne, John White
- Florida Supreme Court Justice Raoul Cantero: unknown why Thompson would single out Cantero from the other justices; the Florida Supreme Court oversees the Bar disciplinary process. Thompson is currently suing the justices in federal court
- Florida 11th Circuit Court Chief Judge Joseph Farina: Judge Tunis's boss.
- Al Cardenas: Prominent Florida attorney; his firm's complaint was part of last year's Bar trial (the non-video game related part); Judge Tunis has recommended two findings of guilt against Thompson in regard to Tew-Cardenas
- David Pollack, Florida attorney: Thompson has claimed in court filings that Pollack was appointed by the Bar to investigate a complaint against Thompson, found no evidence, but was overruled by the Bar
- Sam Partridge, General Counsel, Alabama State Bar: Alabama Circuit Court Judge James Moore testified against Thompson at his 2007 Bar trial; however, Partridge's specific connection to the case is not known.
- Oren Wunderman, PhD: Thompson has written that Wunderman gave him a clean bill of mental health.
- Kenneth Harms, former Miami Police Chief: he was mentioned as a potential witness in Thompson's 2006 attempt to have Rockstar's Bully declared a public nuisance before Judge Friedman in a Miami Court.
- Janet Folger, Christian conservative commentator, author and activist - possibly a Thompson character witness.
- Judge Richard Yale Feder: a Florida jurist with experience in Bar disciplinary matters; connection to Thompson's case unknown.
- Randall Marshall, Legal Director, ACLU of Florida: connection unknown, but Thompson claimed recently that he had joined the ACLU and might be seeking its support on what he deems an issue of expressing his Christian views.
- JR Rosskamp: Jo Edda Rosskamp filed a lawsuit last year against a partner in the Tew-Cardenas law firm; Thompson represented her. A JR Rosskamp is a South Florida financial advisor. It's unknown to GP whether they are the same person.
Comments
That's a lot of people, it won't matter though. He's career is as good as done ;).
Even if he could subpoena these people, it doesn't seem like any of them would offer testimony that would help his case...
I've long tried to discern a method to Jack's madness, trying to see if there may be a point and some over-arching legal strategy and shrewd maneuvering behind all these wild filings. But if there is some grand, intricate plan, I don't see it and I've since given up.
Has Jack really joined the ACLU? I find that laughable, especially since they once labled him "Censor of the Year." Then again, the ACLU has never been picky when it comes to what kinds of people they choose to defend, so I guess I shouldn't be surprised to find if it's true.
Can you tell where they said that and their reasons (Not that I don't agree, but I'm curious about what they wrote about him). I searched on their website, but I didn't found anything.
Joining the ACLU is a matter of sending them $20 a year or more, and they send you a membership card and newsletters. It certainly doesn't get you any special consideration from them. I send them $100 a year myself, though I think I've recently let my membership lapse (bad me).
(BTW, not a fan of the rich text edit box -- is there any way to disable it by default?)
...what don't you like about the edit box?
It's *extremely* slow to load up, and this is on two different brand new PC's. It's as if it's not getting cached. It does something like focus stealing by jumping to the input box once it finally loads, losing my position in the thread I was reading, and it causes the scroll position of the browser to reset every time I hit enter.
YES! I was just thinking that myself, its the same on my piece of crap XP machine, my good XP machine & my great vista machine.
The ACLU defends the rights of people from the best to the worst of them. They wouldn't support Jack Thompson as he has done plenty of bad crap that they would not support. Be nice to the ACLU
What does subpoea mean???
It is an order of the court requiring the recipient to appear and give testimony.
Sorry Jack, they only deal with REAL instances of suppression of freedom of speech. Nobody's taking that away from you.
This is about your license to practice as a lawyer, nothing more.
-- If your wiimote goes snicker-snack, check your wrist-strap...
To Mr. Thompson:
Just because you're a Christian doesn't make you right. Just because that's what's motivating you doesn't mean you need to win your cases by default. What motivates you doesn't make things not related to religion (ie, video games, violent or not) magically shift to your viewpoint.
You lose. The ACLU won't help you. Good day sir.
Jack,
You had the opportunity to answer the questions in Discovery and notify who your witnesses are and what their testimony would be about. Instead, you decided that was "too good for you" to respond to. So, in essence, it's your own fault that you can't call these witnesses to the hearing.
So long Jack, Happy Trails!
Let's not forget the people he eventually decided not to include on his final witness list:
Michael Jackson: Former king of pop and african-american male. Currently resides in "Neverland" a theme-park styled home/fortress which is actually a front for a child-molestation ring. Current relation to Jack's case is unknown although both can testify that "Wacko Jacko" is detrimental to their feelings.
Janet Reno: Former political opponent in Jack's bid to be elected Dade-County State Attorney. Jack ultimately lost in a landslide win for incumbent Janet Reno. Thompson filed battery charges against Reno and tried to portray her as a "non-heterosexual". Current relation to Jack's case is unknown, but Jack still probably harbors some hatred against Reno and would probably like to point out her specific involvement in the vast conpiracy theory against him.
Kaz Hirai and Ken Kuturagi: Current and former Cheif Executives for Sony Computer Entertainment. Thompson alleges that "Krazy Ken" and "Krazy Kaz" are responsible for Japan's involvement in a subversive "Pearl Harbor 2" campaign against the youth of America. Thompson claims that a popular YouTube clip of Kaz Hirai, in which Hirai shouts "It's Riddddggge Raceeeeeerrrrr", is actually a hypnotic message designed to trigger the programming installed by Sony's video games a la "The Manchurian Candidate". Thompson also claims that Ken Kuturagi's "Dual Shock" line of controllers plays a key role in "programming" today's "Manchurian Children" and that the vibrations emitted by the controller elicit a "pleasurable jolt straight out of B.F. Skinner's basement".
Claude, Toni Cipriani, Tommy Vercetti, Victor Vance, Carl Johnson, and Niko Bellic: Although researchers were unable to locate any information pertaining to these particular witnesses, Thompson claims they are defectors from "Rockstar" and "Take-Two" who want to blow the lid on the misdeeds of their former employers.
That was some good LOL's. Thanks for making my morning.
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So speak I, some random guy.
I would also love to see Hanover Fiste called in as a character witness. If you ever saw the movie Heavy Metal (one of my all time favorites), you know how that went down!
"'Neverland' a theme-park styled home/fortress which is actually a front for a child-molestation ring."
Of which the Burger King is a member.
I AM A LOST SOUL, CONDEMNED TO HAUNT THE DREAMS OF JOHN BRUCE "JACK" THOMPSON UNTIL HIS CRUSADE AGAINST VIDEO GAMES ENDS. SOMEONE, PLEASE! END MY SUFFERING!
I'm kinda wondering what the logic is behind subpoena-ing people to a hearing that wouldn't include testimony. Is he really so vindictive that he would subpoena people just to interrupt their normal workday to hang around the courtroom?
I do believe the unfortunate awnser to that may be yes.
There you go again, using 'logic' when reffering to JT, you should know better by now. :P
This means JT's either incredibly dense or incredibly shrewd. I have to wonder if he didn't deliberately decline to give a witness list so that he can later cry about how the court wouldn't allow him to bring in witnesses. Most people would be upset to know that the courts essentially are hamstringing his defense and don't have the legal proficiency to understand the procedural mistake that resulted in the subpoenas being quashed. It certainly sounds good for JT to say that SCOFla was so hellbent on persecuting him that they wouldn't let him call witnesses or submit his own motions, and it takes some research to learn that there's a plausible reason for both sanctions being ordered against JT.
> This means JT's either incredibly dense or incredibly shrewd.
Considering he has not once won, ever, it's not hard to fathom which of these choices I'd wager on.
Actually JT used to be pretty effective at winning cases, including suing the FL supream court and getting a $20,000 settlement. He also was forced in for a psych exam and passed at one point (not talking about the more recient church buddy one).
So I'm guessing that he has been getting less stable but looks back on when he was functional then assumes that similiar tactics will continue to work.
Well that's the thing, he didn't actually win that case, he got a settlement. They gave him money to shut him up (court cases are long and expensive regardless of how irrelevant they are) but the message he got from it was that if he's loud enough people will give him money. His only tactic is to threaten people and hope they give him what he wants out of fear ( /ignorance that all of it is bullshit) or just to have peace.
Like I have said before, his last run in with the Bar obviously has influenced his behavior.
Don't like the way your case is going? Try to get those involved ticked off enough, play innocent about doing it while saying it is interfering with your case and is causing them to be prejudged. Also play the "they hate my religion" card whatever chance you get for an excuse. Make the case hell for others anyway you can, like by submitting numerous documents, killing fax machines, sending out lie filled press releases, etc to do whatever you can to tie up the judge and court's resources....
Don't like the outcome? Threaten those higher up, along with filing the usual follow up suit, then same as above.
Thus he believes that no matter what he does or is the outcome, he can always invalidate it or at least get it overturned, and that he is untouchable/stoppable by the Bar.
I think you're pretty far out on a limb to call what he has done in regard to cases "effective."
He won, or at least settled in his favor, which essentialy means he won.
Over the years JT has won or weasled his way out of quite a few cases. It is only lately that he has turned into a trainwreak with one failure after another.
So like him or not, he was quite an effective lawyer once upon a time.
He also was forced in for a psych exam and passed at one point (not talking about the more recient church buddy one).
You mean the one in 1990? Makes me wonder how much things, like such exams, have changed in psychology after 17 years...
Reading through that list, there's one thing that really strikes me.
Oren Wunderman, PhD is seriously one of the most awesome name/title combinations that I've ever seen. I wonder if he has "Dr. Wunderman" business cards, presumably with a garish color scheme and flashy embossed logo. Hm...
dunno, but it's hard to imagine how he could be in more trouble than he's already in...
Of course. It's called comtempt of court. And, moreover, it arguably would violate any number of Bar Conduct Rules. And, even if he doesn't show up, I don't think that any real impediment to the Court proceeding towards issuance of its Report. Kinda like the Nuremburg Trials.
Nuremburg eh? What's jacks plea "I was only following my internal orders to be an arrogant, belligerant, childish, domineering, egotistical, filibustering, grandstanding, hypocritical, ineffectual, judgemental, klannish, lunatic, manipulative, nonsensical, odious, pejorative, quizzical, rapacious, slimy, thick-headed, unberable, vile, wanky, xylophone-hating (Hey I had to get an X in there somehow), youth-phobic, zit on the arse of humanity"?
Edit: I just thought, the X could have been xenophobic but is he actually xenophobic? From what I can tell he's open minded towards race, religion (somewhat), nationality & political persuasion, its just people's hobbies that matter.
> I just thought, the X could have been xenophobic but is he actually xenophobic?
Oh my goodness, yes. He has a number of choice quotes about Sony and "a second Pearl Harbor". He's run his mouth off about Islam more than once, and heck he's even got it in for Scotland (where Rockstar is).
I dunno tho, "xylophobe" has a great ring to it tho :)
I was thinking more of the "tried in absentia" aspect of the Trials (i.e., despite the fact that several defendants had already absconded to South America and parts elsewhere, the court still tried and convicted them -- just like imagine Jack's court will, if he makes good on his promise to not show up). But, now that you mention it, Jack's "I was motivated by the voice of God I hear in my head to do what I did and that therefore makes it perfectly acceptable" isn't too far removed from the "acting under orders" defense of many of the defendants at Nuremberg.
As an aside, remember Miles Gopman? Jack's wanna-be co-counsel at his hearing before Judge Tunis? There's an interesting court opinion concerning a matter in which Mr. Gopman was involved as an attorney which gives, I believe, interesting insight. And makes you wonder who learnt their courtroom style from whom. Miles from Jack? Or Jack from Miles? opinions.1dca.org/written/
<i>Out of curiousity, can Thompson boycott the hearing without getting in trouble for not showing up?</i>
Sure, they'll just make a summary default judgment, which will almost certainly be to concur with every finding (since no one's around to dispute them), plus handing down the maximum penalty.
From anyone else, that would be the worst thing they could do. But this is Jack Thompson we're talking about: not showing up is likely to actually make a better impression on the justices. :)
The only reason I can think of for this madness is so the ol' bastard could later on scream out his conspiracy drivel, and that the state had poisoned everyone against him... purely for attention AFTER the case and most stories about him have ended.
Further ego trip. Otherwise he'd need to take a dozen intelligence tests before even thinking about a sanity one.
Wouldn't the time to call witnesses have been during the trial????
This is like someone who has been found guilty of murder trying to call witnesses during the sentencing phase.
Too late dude. That's what appeals are for.
Who would ever hire this guy to be their lawyer? I've never taken a law class in my life, but even I can figure out he's an idiot with no plan. Writing to the governor telling him he made an error in appointing someone, then joshin' with him about his golf score... WTF??
What???
He didn't include me???
Hmph!
nightwng2000
NW2K Software
Nightwng2000 has also updated his MySpace page: http://www.myspace.com/nightwing2000 Nightwng2000 is now admin to the group "Parents For Education, Not Legislation" on MySpace as http://groups.myspace.com/pfenl
Oh hell, Nightwng2000, I'm surprised he didn't include ME because of the e-mail convo between me and him. Oh, God, I'm about to have a heart attack!
*urk!* (keels over)
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I AM A LOST SOUL, CONDEMNED TO HAUNT THE DREAMS OF JOHN BRUCE "JACK" THOMPSON UNTIL HIS CRUSADE AGAINST VIDEO GAMES ENDS. SOMEONE, PLEASE! END MY SUFFERING!
Since Jack is too narcissistic not to read this story, I've got a question:
Hey Jack - You bitch and moan about issues like forged Oaths of Loyalty (which, as JDKJ pointed out, simply means they are de facto judges, whose rulings still stand - nowhere does it say that their rulings are void as you claim), yet you yourself ignore issues like proper filing proceedure and deadlines yet expect that they shouldn't apply to you. Don't you think this is a little hypocritical?
I think it's well established by now that Jack only applies the rules to other people. Everyone else has to follow the law, not him. Jesus told him the rules don't apply to him. At least in the dreams involving the unicorn and the baby Dracula...
He seems to be of the opinion that if the court is "corrupt"/"criminal"/"insane", then he doesn't have to listen to anything they say.
Up here in Canada, that defense wouldn't stand. You have to follow the rules of the court, no matter how stupid. You can appeal them, but you have to obey them unless you get a stay, until your appeal goes through.
Especially if you agreed to said rules in order to get your Bar license. Which is what this all boils down to. Jack agreed to follow the rules to get his license. He can try to get the rules changed, but until then, HE HIMSELF has to follow them to keep his license (as has been pointed out before, just because other people also break the rules, does not excuse him).
-- If your wiimote goes snicker-snack, check your wrist-strap...
@ Nightwing2000
No worries. You will be on the next list
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Now, has anyone had a chance to read the letter he submitted to Jeb Bush? Honestly, if I received a letter like that I would do everything in my gubenatorial powers to avoid him like the plague. Pure nonsense and drivel attacking someone and telling them in a half-assed cordial way that they have been supeonaed. How the hell does this man continue to operate on a day to day basis?
Getting hitched this weekend: laughing at Jack because of this is an excellent wedding present, I have to say.
Hearing about the proceedings of June 4th may be a special bonus.
'gratz on the nuptials.
If you find yourself slipping away from the honeymoon suite to check here for news, that's a sign of GP addiction.
Hmm he did not invite God, Jesus, Moses, the Marines or Batman (and yes sorry Nightwng you apparently did not make the cut sorry bro) but if jackieboy boycotts the hearing who will there to represent them? Oh and btw. Very mature and professional of you jackie. Things not going your way so you are going to sulk in your room? Hardly matters of course, when the hammer comes down (and it IS coming) it does not matter if you are at ground zero, it will find you.
Is there anyone in this list that would have actually helped him?
I'm marking June 4th on my calendar right now.
Edit: I just read the letter to Jeb Bush. The hypocrisy is astounding. Many cracks about IQ. And evidently Judge Tunis' signing of the Oath in January(?) is an admission of guilt? I guess it's like those guys at BadAssBuddy.com who put that AIM icon of Jack getting killed. After Thompson called the cops they took it down per his request. Once they did it was "an admission of guilt."
If you accidently bump into someone and they ask you to apologize you're expected to apologize. It's not an admission of anything other than you know you messed up and you're fixing it. This is the case of Tunis. She did not, as far as we know, intentionally mess up her original, and the signing of the new one means it was an accident that she wants to fix. Not some clever conspiracy that lands you a get-out-of-being-disbarred-free card.
I also noticed a good bit of his "[invitatiton], per subpoena" was actually him whoring his book to Mr. Bush. What a surprise.
He has 3 current suits in US District Court South Florida:
He placed #1 & #2 on hold recently, pending the resolution of the Bar issues.
Gotta love the Jeb letter:
'Hey, Jeb, you're a slope-browed moron and you've been responsible for some really stupid things. Wanna help me weasel out of this?'
And for his next trick, Thompson will enter the courtroom on his hands whilst singing 'I'm Henry the 8th, I am, I am', just to be [i]certain[/i] that people are still paying attention to his existence.
Kinda funny how he accuses lawyers, businessmen and enthusiasts across the country of being 'unable to deal with the truth about video games', or 'knowingly breaking the law by selling these games to minors', and yet the moment his own little vendetta is threatened, all the rules don't apply to him.
But I suppose that is Thompson all over, the rules only apply to other people, and his opinion and any that agrees with him, are the only 'right' opinions in a world out to get them... He seems to think that he is a kind of one-man A-Team, and Tunis etc are the American Army, come to arrest the hero vigilantes..
"And for his next trick, Thompson will enter the courtroom on his hands whilst singing 'I'm Henry the 8th, I am, I am', just to be [i]certain[/i] that people are still paying attention to his existence."
only if he was convinced that it is a winning strategy. might not work since before this he had a psych eval to proove his sanity. tricky how the bar let him prove himself sane in another trial so they could hold him responcible during this one.
Oh yes, for some reason I am inclined to quote Terry Pratchett for this:-
'Some elements of humainty have a great deal in common with invertebrates such as the Cuttlefish or Squid. They share a tendency to hide behind a cloud of ink when frightened.'
Can I get a link for the Jeb Bush letter?
Also please Robot you have caused me to envision jackie singing which is causing rampant brain damage. The pain.
www.gamepolitics.com/images/pdf/JT-JebBush-052508(1).doc
I don't know why the link is gone from the article.
Thakns for that. I was worried that I would not enjoy that laughter this day.
E. Zachary Knight
www.editorialgames.com
JackThompson.exe threw a bunch of logical exceptions when creating that letter and failed to catch them. Now he has to shut down.
(Just read the letter to Bush)
WTF? I swear Jack has reverted. He wasn't like this to my friend, why should he act like this now?
I AM A LOST SOUL, CONDEMNED TO HAUNT THE DREAMS OF JOHN BRUCE "JACK" THOMPSON UNTIL HIS CRUSADE AGAINST VIDEO GAMES ENDS. SOMEONE, PLEASE! END MY SUFFERING!
and a partridge in a peartree...
So, can the legal-minded of our group, please clue me in if I've been misinformed? Is pitching a hissyfit a legitimate defense?
No, not in and of itself. But it you're shooting for a "not guilty by reason of insanity" verdict, it helps. But only if pitched in open court before the jury.
so basically it can be, but in jacks case its not.
Jack, you forgot to list Jesus, Pope John Paul and Emperor Constantine.
On a serious note, however, I think that most of these witnesses called would be damaging to Thompson's own defense, as most would be able to easily testify against him, and in the case of Doctor Wunderman, his psych exam would be torn apart in cross examination due to conflict of interests.
I say let them all come, for there is nothing more humbling that a fool who has been defeated by his own arguments.
The thing is...some of them HAVE tesitified against him in the 9 day Bar Trial proceedings :P
So he basically wanted another opportunity to have his case be heard. No wonder he was denied.
That this...um...person is an actual lawyer boggles my mind. Oh well, not much longer most likely.
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Quite an impressive list of enemies Jack's built up over the years. Dennis, are you disappointed you weren't on it?
while I don't consider him an enemy, he probably considers me one.
I *did* think I might be on the list... After all, he tried to add me & the ECA to his federal lawsuit last year.
Don't worry Dennis, theres always the next Jack Thompson-esqe lawyer who will want to sue everybody that disagrees with his assertion that electronic media are evil.
Hunting the shadows of the troubled dreams.
Jack also forgot St. Paul, St. Peter, the rest of the Apostles, and Elijah the Prophet. Did I miss any important characters in the Bible that were NOT already mentioned by previous users?
Anyway, it seems like the end of the line for Jack. I hope Patricia can pick up the slack while her hubby looks for a new job. I'd hate for her to have to suffer for Jack's... lack of intellgence, for lack of a more appropriate word (by which I mean that is not derogatory).
I AM A LOST SOUL, CONDEMNED TO HAUNT THE DREAMS OF JOHN BRUCE "JACK" THOMPSON UNTIL HIS CRUSADE AGAINST VIDEO GAMES ENDS. SOMEONE, PLEASE! END MY SUFFERING!
Well, there's John the Baptist, Pilate and Herod still missing. Probably a few others.
I heard he wanted to put Abraham on the stand and say it was Manhunt that made him almost sacrifice Issac
I heard he wanted to also get Lot to testify it was Leisure Suit Larry that made him knock up his own daughters
I'm just surprised Jack didn't call out Dennis, either.
(Finish reading letter to Bush)
Oh, Jack. You are truly desperated. Like I said before, you are an aircraft on flames about to crash on plain ground, and it is gonna be beautiful. And no one is gonna help you.
People hate you and don´t believe in you because you abused of everyone who has been near of you. You really deserve what is happening to you.
This is your end. Enjoy the rest of you life...
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I love that one, it is kind of like how not to write a letter:
Start with getting chummy with the person/group you want on your side.
Then after that first paragraph give your life history, conspiracy theories, and insult everyone including them along the way.
Give the usual "for the children" and "I'm a good boy being picked on by those meanies" BS.
And do all of this while threatening legal action on whomever you are addressing.
And the best example of what NOT to do is...
Assuming they read beyond that first paragraph and read through your long winded & insult filled crazy letter, you then suggest that they read through your personal BLOG made from dead trees!
@GP:
Jack has a beef against Justice Cantero (who recently resigned from the Court) going back to the days of the Elian Gonzalez deportation case. As I recall, Cantero, then in private practice, was one of the many attorneys associated with that case and who, like all the other attorneys associated with that case, Jack, as a "writer" for NewsMax, venomously criticized for their alleged mishandling of the matter (in part, I suspect, because (a) he was jealous of them and (b) he wanted the Miami reletives to hire him). He's been on Jack's list (and I'm not talking witness list) for quiet some time.
Wacky Jacky may have the nuts to try and subpoena Jeb, but there's no way he could successfully subpoena Dubya.
actually, he did try to subpoena the prez last year...
"It's all part of the plan!"
-Jack Thompson / Joker
OH NOES! HE WILL THROW ACID TO JUDGE TUNIS´S FACE AND TURN HER IN A SUPERVILLAN!
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Lets see here, he's missing a lot from the Bible actually.
Moses, Noah, Ezekial, Abraham, Adam, heck just about every old testament prophet, high priest, and seer/revelator. Could probably get over 100 names by going through all the geneological chapters related to the righteous rulers, Christ, and the aforementioned prophets, high priests, and seers/revelators. Not that any of them would show up since they're all kinda dead except for a select few if you believe they really were taken up to heaven and spared from tasting death. That leaves at most something like three I think... can't remember who they were though.
Thankfully he's at least sane enough to not try calling on them as witnesses, I fear seeing anyone so far gone they call on people who died thousands of years ago (provided the book is true and has accurate dates) as witnesses. Personally I don't think any sane person could take viewing that level of insanity for long without becoming damaged themself. Thankfully we don't have to find out if I'm right just yet.
the thought of him calling bible figures as witnesses reminds me of Peter Griffin calling on the Ghost who Never Lies. "Don't point at me you jackass" indeed
岩「…Ace beats Jack」
Randall Marshall, Legal Director, ACLU of Florida: connection unknown, but Thompson claimed recently that he had joined the ACLU and might be seeking its support on what he deems an issue of expressing his Christian views.
BAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA, OH WOW! Even if it is true, I do wonder if even they will have a hard time buying his BS.... Hmm, and "claimed recently"? Wonder if the ACLU is just taking his word on this one so far.
Only other nitpick is how does his "expressing his Christian views" claim. Even if he had anywhere to go with it; like that justifies a good amount of what he has been doing...
The whole thing can pretty much be summed up:
They hate me, are out to get me, and are all in this together.... Except for my shills I'm using in a pathetic attempt to justify my immoral actions & behavior.
And saved yourself some time.
Jeb Bush!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA
Wow, that's like the old throwing stuff at a wall and seeing what sticks thing.
@Ixian
Actually I tagged Moses a half the page back. The thing is jackie can call forth Emperor Palpantine (aka Darth Sidious) for all it matters. JBT had compared himself to many famous (and some Infamous) people (some of which are even real) from Batman to calling himself a foot soldier of God here to deliever God's wrath on Take 2 and Rock Star (btw still waiting on that). He is doing the predictable thing, trying to stall and delay or if he is doomed he is hoping to take others with him.
It is sad in many ways and at many levels. He is clinging to 1 thing he did semi well at (the Howard Stern incident) and ignoring the other hundreds of cases he has tried and failed. He is beating his chest crying and claiming he is being picked on while crowing that he is so wonderful for having many hate him (again the Jesus comparison). Honestly though I wonder how many hate him as much as just hold him in disqust and would as soon have him wiggle away like a worm. To hate would be to pursue him to ends and frankly jackie is not worth the effort.
It might just be me, but bringing many of your previous enemies to testify that you should keep your job probably is the craziest thing you could do. I want to see how this turns out!
not if your trying to get a head start on your next job as a comedian cause this . . . this my friends is simple effective comedy gold!
Crazy if he is trying to keep is job.
However, it does make sense if his goal is to confront all these people under oath and grill them on unrelated topics, which is probably what he was going for.
still qualifies for comedy gold!
You know, boycotting the hearing is the smartest move Jack could possibly make at this point. He's his own worst enemy.
Won't do him a lick of good, of course, but as deep a hole as he's in, at least he's finally decided to stop digging.
he is still digging. It's just laterally instead of vertical.
Hunting the shadows of the troubled dreams.
Wow, I read Jack's letter to Jeb Bush, and I must say that it only serves to reinforce my thoughts on him. He is easily in the top 10 list of pretentious, self-righteous, hypocritical assholes on this planet. It's beyond me how this man looks at himself in the mirror without vomitting. The saddest part is, how he's so very sure that him and everything he does is right and good. And in that same breath he rants about how anyone who dares disagree with him is a terrible person, idiot, going to hell, etc. Seriously if this man actually learnded anything from the Bible, he'd realize that he should look at the log in his own eye before pointing out the sliver in everyone elses. A truly disgusting man, the saddest part being that he'll never realize it.
In Jack's case it's more like a forest in his eye than a log.
@GP:
Judge Feder is the judge who presided over the first attempt (way back in the day) by the Florida Bar to prosecute Jack Thompson for professional misconduct. Seems His Honor had some prior connection to the ACLU, which of course Jack latched on to in an attempt to paint him as some sort of sympathizer with the "enemies" of Jack Thompson.
Funny how Jack's current stratergy in his Bar proceedings echo from 20 years ago. Old dog, new trick, no way.
I can't help but wonder how the managing shareholders of the venerable and prestigious law firm of Carlton Fields would feel about one of their shareholders testifying on behalf of Jack Thompson in a Bar disciplinary proceeding. It ain't the kind of publicity, I'd imagine, that ties into their business development stratergy. Or, perhaps, they subscribe to the "any publicity is good publicity" philosophy. Although, I kinda doubt that. They're as staid a law firm as you get.
@GP:
Sam Partridge's connection to Jack Thompson's disciplinary proceeding in Florida may well have to do with the currently pending disciplinary proceeding against him in Alabama. Under Alabama Bar rules, the Bar's General Counsel is responsible for initiating disciplinary proceedings.
wait . . . wait now are you telling me that jack is calling one of the people who initiated his prosecution to defend him???!!!!!!!! (my only guess is that he "plans" to prove the charges are fake)
Of course not, he's calling them up so he can bring to bear his awesome lawerly acumen against them and dissect them on the witness stand so it can be made plain to see how they're all craven liars in a great conspiracy against him. Certainly under his withering cross-examinations, they'll fold, repent, and beg the court to spare Jack.
Frankly, I think half the people on that list would love to appear if the court would let them. In fact, I think some of them already did.
Well, sheeeet, he called Norm Kent, didn't he? You think Norm's got anything positive to say about Jack Thompson?
You make it sound like 28-or-29 out of the 33s witnesses would have anything "positive" to say about Jack...
Point.
obviously thompson thinks of himself as the lawyer equivalent of mcguyver. at least that's all i can think of when i see the list of people....
i hate to tell you but your wrong mcguyver would have put duct tape on the witness list
Yes, but Macgyver could get himself acquitted with that particular witness. I mean, what can't he do with duct tape?
But that's not really the point. I've decided (As I am the Decider) that this is similar to a chess game. Thompson's "king" has been backed into a corner, and he's been trying to rally his remaing pieces around it. Then Tunis, we'll call her the queen swept in with her verdict and pushed him in tighter eliminating his last major pieces. What he's doing now is sending in all his "pawns" trying to get one to the other side to get some good pieces back. That's what his "forged loyalty oath" was, it's what his failed subpoenas were. His little boycott is just him moving his "king" around like a jackass trying to make it a draw when everyone knows he's lost.
Cause, you know, the people listed couldn't possibly have any reason to testify against Jack could they?
lol the best news is Jack news. Remember a time when gamers felt threatened by his rantings? It took us a while to go "oh...I think he's just a crazy person".
If he isn't around anymore, what interesting news would we have to look forward to? Nothing is more fun than "Old man whacks more important people with crazy: they bludgeon him with logic"
After reading that letter to Jeb Bush, I propose a drinking game. Get a bunch of his letters, sound bites ect and everyone takes a shot whenever he plugs his book. Whoever isn't passed out drunk after the first 10 letters/sound bites, wins.
you mean dead from alcohol poisoning?
Well that's really just semantics, isn't it?
....Though I'm pretty sure the Jeb Bush letter is enough to kill someone by itself.... At least a very skinny person.
If this were an RTS game, what he is doing would be griefing. He is running any peasants he has left to the far corners of the map in hopes of prolonging the inevitable.
The thing about the legal system in this country is you can slow it to a crawl by doing inundating the system with motions. In order to have more motions to file, you have to set up a perceived injustice. He is deliberately dragging it out for our enjoyment. Gonna make some popcorn. Thanks for the continuing entertainment JT. When the axe finally falls, I will feel empty inside. JT is to the legal system as a sticky booger is to a finger. It takes a while, but eventually it gets flicked off.
If this were WoW, he'd have charged int othe plaguelands as a level one priest with base gear and no talent points, then he'd sue Blizzard for him not winning.
-kurisu7885
I could see that!
"Alright Judge Tunis, time's up, let's do this...JAAAAAAAAAAAACK NTHOMPSOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNN!!!"
(for those who don't get it...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkCNJRfSZBU)
Jack's just upset that everyone else's supoena is bigger than his.
(Waits for others to get it)
So you're saying he has a subpar subpoena?
He has subpoena envy?
And suddenly I'm thinking of an old Batman episode.
Harley (dressed as a lawyer): "I think I served you a subpoena once."
*walks a few steps, and then turns to say* "It was a small subpoena."
I just can't stop picturing Jack sitting in his office the other day, wearing his pajamas and night-cap, glasses and hanging his head in his hands - a pen sticking out between two fingers while he leers at a sheet of paper between his elbows. The sheet, of course, contains about 30 names of people he would like to subpoena.
The only thought going through his mind: "God, who the hell can I add to this list to drag out my flogging?"
. . Wisdom begins in wonder. - Socrates . .
@GP:
Gwynne Alice Young is in the Tampa office of Carlton Fields, not the Miami office. As such, I doubt she would be intimately and personably knowledgable of Jack Thompson's wife's medical issues. She is, however, the representative from the 15th Judicial Circuit to the Florida Bar's Board of Governor's. If the more likely possibility that Thompson's intent was to lump Ms. Young in with all the other Bar Governors as among his "enemies" is indeed true, then, considering the potential negative impact to the hand that feeds him, this is suggestive that: (a) Mr. Thompson has gone completely of his rocker and thrown all caution to the wind and (b) he is completely without much needed adult supervision.
Hmmm... Didn't realize that.
You're probably right. It' great to get this kind of feedback.
You would think he would be coming up with ways to defend himself then throwing a fit like a three year old and saying he isn't going because he isn't getting his way. Its times like this Mr. Thompson that you have to act like the adult we all know you are.
You might think that and I might think that but sadly he doesn't seem to. It just goes to prove once more that being old doesn't make you an adult.