Analyzing Jack Thompson's Would-be Witnesses

May 29, 2008 -

As GamePolitics reported yesterday, controversial attorney Jack Thompson was unsuccessful in a bid to subpoena 33 witnesses for a June 4th sanctions hearing before Judge Dava Tunis.

Tunis, the Florida Supreme Court-appointed referee who presided over the Florida Bar's prosecution of professional misconduct charges against Thompson, quashed the subpoenas in response to a motion from the Bar. In doing so, Tunis ruled that:

[Thompson] is precluded from presenting witnesses or documentary evidence in mitigation in this case due to his failure to comply with the bar's discovery requests.

An order issued by Tunis in October, 2007 elaborates on what the referee terms Thompson's "failure to comply." The upshot is that Judge Tunis will not allow Thompson to subpoena witnesses for next week's hearing. Thompson has indicated that he will boycott the hearing.

In any event, GamePolitics has obtained the list of Thompson's proposed witnesses (although not from Thompson, who declined our request). Read on as we analyze the 33 names and guess at Thompson's legal strategy (never an easy task):

  • Jeb Bush: Former Governor of Florida, brother of President Bush; Last week Thompson sent the ex-Guv a rant explaining (sort of) why he wanted him to appear.
  • Strauss Zelnick: Chairman of Grand Theft Auto publisher Take-Two Interactive; a longtime target of Thompson's. Four of the five Bar complaints against Thompson stem from his involvement in cases targeting Take-Two games.
  • Judge Ronald Friedman: presided over the 2006 Bully case; testified against Thompson at last year's Bar trial.
  • Ian Comisky: Partner in Philadelphia law firm Blank-Rome; the firm defended Take-Two in Thompson's Alabama lawsuit and two of its attorneys testified against Thompson at last year's Bar trial.
  • Norm Kent: Florida attorney who has represented shock radio in Florida; he and Thompson have a long and contentious legal history.
  • Gwynne Alice Young: an attorney at the Miami firm where Thompson's wife is a partner; during the course of the Bar's prosecution against him, Thompson has been critical of what he claims is Judge Tunis's lack of sensitivity to his wife's battle against cancer; possibly related to that issue
  • Various Past & Present Florida Bar officials: John Berry, Kenneth Marvin, Tony Boggs, Mary Ellen Bateman, John Harkness, Jan Wichrowski, Lorraine Hoffmann, Arlene Sankel, Barnaby Min, Frank Angones, Jesse Diner, Kelly Overstreet Johnson, Hank Coxe, Barry Richard, Ben Kuehne, John White
  • Florida Supreme Court Justice Raoul Cantero: unknown why Thompson would single out Cantero from the other justices; the Florida Supreme Court oversees the Bar disciplinary process. Thompson is currently suing the justices in federal court
  • Florida 11th Circuit Court Chief Judge Joseph Farina: Judge Tunis's boss.
  • Al Cardenas: Prominent Florida attorney; his firm's complaint was part of last year's Bar trial (the non-video game related part); Judge Tunis has recommended two findings of guilt against Thompson in regard to Tew-Cardenas
  • David Pollack, Florida attorney: Thompson has claimed in court filings that Pollack was appointed by the Bar to investigate a complaint against Thompson, found no evidence, but was overruled by the Bar
  • Sam Partridge, General Counsel, Alabama State Bar: Alabama Circuit Court Judge James Moore testified against Thompson at his 2007 Bar trial; however, Partridge's specific connection to the case is not known.
  • Oren Wunderman, PhD: Thompson has written that Wunderman gave him a clean bill of mental health.
  • Kenneth Harms, former Miami Police Chief: he was mentioned as a potential witness in Thompson's 2006 attempt to have Rockstar's Bully declared a public nuisance before Judge Friedman in a Miami Court.
  • Janet Folger, Christian conservative commentator, author and activist - possibly a Thompson character witness.
  • Judge Richard Yale Feder: a Florida jurist with experience in Bar disciplinary matters; connection to Thompson's case unknown.
  • Randall Marshall, Legal Director, ACLU of Florida: connection unknown, but Thompson claimed recently that he had joined the ACLU and might be seeking its support on what he deems an issue of expressing his Christian views.
  • JR Rosskamp: Jo Edda Rosskamp filed a lawsuit last year against a partner in the Tew-Cardenas law firm; Thompson represented her. A JR Rosskamp is a South Florida financial advisor. It's unknown to GP whether they are the same person.

 


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Randall Marshall, Legal Director, ACLU of Florida: connection unknown, but Thompson claimed recently that he had joined the ACLU and might be seeking its support on what he deems an issue of expressing his Christian views.
BAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA, OH WOW!  Even if it is true, I do wonder if even they will have a hard time buying his BS.... Hmm, and "claimed recently"?  Wonder if the ACLU is just taking his word on this one so far.

Only other nitpick is how does his "expressing his Christian views" claim.  Even if he had anywhere to go with it; like that justifies a good amount of what he has been doing...

 

The whole thing can pretty much be summed up:

They hate me, are out to get me, and are all in this together.... Except for my shills I'm using in a pathetic attempt to justify my immoral actions & behavior.

And saved yourself some time.

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Lets see here, he's missing a lot from the Bible actually.

Moses, Noah, Ezekial, Abraham, Adam, heck just about every old testament prophet, high priest, and seer/revelator. Could probably get over 100 names by going through all the geneological chapters related to the righteous rulers, Christ, and the aforementioned prophets, high priests, and seers/revelators. Not that any of them would show up since they're all kinda dead except for a select few if you believe they really were taken up to heaven and spared from tasting death. That leaves at most something like three I think... can't remember who they were though.

Thankfully he's at least sane enough to not try calling on them as witnesses, I fear seeing anyone so far gone they call on people who died thousands of years ago (provided the book is true and has accurate dates) as witnesses. Personally I don't think any sane person could take viewing that level of insanity for long without becoming damaged themself. Thankfully we don't have to find out if I'm right just yet.

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the thought of him calling bible figures as witnesses reminds me of Peter Griffin calling on the Ghost who Never Lies. "Don't point at me you jackass" indeed

岩「…Ace beats Jack」

岩「…I can see why Hasselbeck's worried about fake guns killing fake people. afterall, she's a fake journalist on a fake news channel」

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"It's all part of the plan!"

-Jack Thompson / Joker

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OH NOES! HE WILL THROW ACID TO JUDGE TUNIS´S FACE AND TURN HER IN A SUPERVILLAN!

 

 

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Re: Analyzing Jack Thompson's Would-be Witnesses

Wacky Jacky may have the nuts to try and subpoena Jeb, but there's no way he could successfully subpoena Dubya.

Re: Analyzing Jack Thompson's Would-be Witnesses

actually, he did try to subpoena the prez last year...

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@GP:

Jack has a beef against Justice Cantero (who recently resigned from the Court) going back to the days of the Elian Gonzalez deportation case. As I recall, Cantero, then in private practice, was one of the many attorneys associated with that case and who, like all the other attorneys associated with that case, Jack, as a "writer" for NewsMax, venomously criticized for their alleged mishandling of the matter (in part, I suspect, because (a) he was jealous of them and (b) he wanted the Miami reletives to hire him).  He's been on Jack's list (and I'm not talking witness list) for quiet some time. 

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(Finish reading letter to Bush)

Oh, Jack. You are truly desperated. Like I said before, you are an aircraft on flames about to crash on plain ground, and it is gonna be beautiful. And no one is gonna help you.

People hate you and don´t believe in you because you abused of everyone who has been near of you. You really deserve what is happening to you.

This is your end. Enjoy the rest of you life...

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I love that one, it is kind of like how not to write a letter:

Start with getting chummy with the person/group you want on your side.

Then after that first paragraph give your life history, conspiracy theories, and insult everyone including them along the way.

Give the usual "for the children" and "I'm a good boy being picked on by those meanies" BS.

And do all of this while threatening legal action on whomever you are addressing.

And the best example of what NOT to do is...

Assuming they read beyond that first paragraph and read through your long winded & insult filled crazy letter, you then suggest that they read through your personal BLOG made from dead trees!

 

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I'm just surprised Jack didn't call out Dennis, either.

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Jack also forgot St. Paul, St. Peter, the rest of the Apostles, and Elijah the Prophet. Did I miss any important characters in the Bible that were NOT already mentioned by previous users?

Anyway, it seems like the end of the line for Jack. I hope Patricia can pick up the slack while her hubby looks for a new job. I'd hate for her to have to suffer for Jack's... lack of intellgence, for lack of a more appropriate word (by which I mean that is not derogatory).

I AM A LOST SOUL, CONDEMNED TO HAUNT THE DREAMS OF JOHN BRUCE "JACK" THOMPSON UNTIL HIS CRUSADE AGAINST VIDEO GAMES ENDS. SOMEONE, PLEASE! END MY SUFFERING!



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Re: Analyzing Jack Thompson's Would-be Witnesses

I heard he wanted to put Abraham on the stand and say it was Manhunt that made him almost sacrifice Issac

I heard he wanted to also get Lot to testify it was Leisure Suit Larry that made him knock up his own daughters

Re: Analyzing Jack Thompson's Would-be Witnesses

Well, there's John the Baptist, Pilate and Herod still missing. Probably a few others.

 

Re: Analyzing Jack Thompson's Would-be Witnesses

Quite an impressive list of enemies Jack's built up over the years.  Dennis, are you disappointed you weren't on it?

Re: Analyzing Jack Thompson's Would-be Witnesses

while I don't consider him an enemy, he probably considers me one.

I *did* think I might be on the list... After all, he tried to add me & the ECA to his federal lawsuit last year.

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Don't worry Dennis, theres always the next Jack Thompson-esqe lawyer who will want to sue everybody that disagrees with his assertion that electronic media are evil.

Hunting the shadows of the troubled dreams.

Hunting the shadows of the troubled dreams.

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So he basically wanted another opportunity to have his case be heard. No wonder he was denied.

That this...um...person is an actual lawyer boggles my mind. Oh well, not much longer most likely.

-- http://pixelantes.blogspot.com/

What, no....

Jack, you forgot to list Jesus, Pope John Paul and Emperor Constantine.

 

On a serious note, however, I think that most of these witnesses called would be damaging to Thompson's own defense, as most would be able to easily testify against him, and in the case of Doctor Wunderman, his psych exam would be torn apart in cross examination due to conflict of interests.

I say let them all come, for there is nothing more humbling that a fool who has been defeated by his own arguments.

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Re: What, no....

The thing is...some of them HAVE tesitified against him in the 9 day Bar Trial proceedings :P


 

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and a partridge in a peartree...

So, can the legal-minded of our group, please clue me in if I've been misinformed?  Is pitching a hissyfit a legitimate defense?

"Even if it was online gaming that somehow inspired him to kill his parents, he must have realised at some point that they wouldn't drop any good loot." - GP member, Doomsong

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No, not in and of itself. But it you're shooting for a "not guilty by reason of insanity" verdict, it helps. But only if pitched in open court before the jury.

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so basically it can be, but in jacks case its not.

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www.gamepolitics.com/images/pdf/JT-JebBush-052508(1).doc

 

I don't know why the link is gone from the article.

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(Just read the letter to Bush)

WTF? I swear Jack has reverted. He wasn't like this to my friend, why should he act like this now?

I AM A LOST SOUL, CONDEMNED TO HAUNT THE DREAMS OF JOHN BRUCE "JACK" THOMPSON UNTIL HIS CRUSADE AGAINST VIDEO GAMES ENDS. SOMEONE, PLEASE! END MY SUFFERING!



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Re: Analyzing Jack Thompson's Would-be Witnesses

JackThompson.exe threw a bunch of logical exceptions when creating that letter and failed to catch them. Now he has to shut down.

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Thakns for that. I was worried that I would not enjoy that laughter this day.

E. Zachary Knight
www.editorialgames.com

 

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Can I get a link for the Jeb Bush letter?  

Also please Robot you have caused me to envision jackie singing which is causing rampant brain damage.  The pain.

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Oh yes, for some reason I am inclined to quote Terry Pratchett for this:-

'Some elements of humainty have a great deal in common with invertebrates such as the Cuttlefish or Squid. They share a tendency to hide behind a cloud of ink when frightened.'

Re: Analyzing Jack Thompson's Would-be Witnesses

And for his next trick, Thompson will enter the courtroom on his hands whilst singing 'I'm Henry the 8th, I am, I am', just to be [i]certain[/i] that people are still paying attention to his existence.

Kinda funny how he accuses lawyers, businessmen and enthusiasts across the country of being 'unable to deal with the truth about video games', or 'knowingly breaking the law by selling these games to minors', and yet the moment his own little vendetta is threatened, all the rules don't apply to him.

But I suppose that is Thompson all over, the rules only apply to other people, and his opinion and any that agrees with him, are the only 'right' opinions in a world out to get them... He seems to think that he is a kind of one-man A-Team, and Tunis etc are the American Army, come to arrest the hero vigilantes..

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"And for his next trick, Thompson will enter the courtroom on his hands whilst singing 'I'm Henry the 8th, I am, I am', just to be [i]certain[/i] that people are still paying attention to his existence."

only if he was convinced that it is a winning strategy. might not work since before this he had a psych eval to proove his sanity. tricky how the bar let him prove himself sane in another trial so they could hold him responcible during this one.

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Gotta love the Jeb letter:

 

'Hey, Jeb, you're a slope-browed moron and you've been responsible for some really stupid things. Wanna help me weasel out of this?'

 

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Dennis, do you know the status of his lawsuit against the bar? Is there going to be a hearing or trial anytime soon? (also marking June 4 on my calendar)

Re: Analyzing Jack Thompson's Would-be Witnesses

He has 3 current suits in US District Court South Florida:

  1. vs. the FL Bar
  2. vs. the Florida Supreme Court
  3. vs. the State of Florida

He placed #1 & #2 on hold recently, pending the resolution of the Bar issues.

 

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Is there anyone in this list that would have actually helped him?

I'm marking June 4th on my calendar right now.

Edit: I just read the letter to Jeb Bush. The hypocrisy is astounding. Many cracks about IQ. And evidently Judge Tunis' signing of the Oath in January(?) is an admission of guilt? I guess it's like those guys at BadAssBuddy.com who put that AIM icon of Jack getting killed. After Thompson called the cops they took it down per his request. Once they did it was "an admission of guilt."

If you accidently bump into someone and they ask you to apologize you're expected to apologize. It's not an admission of anything other than you know you messed up and you're fixing it. This is the case of Tunis. She did not, as far as we know, intentionally mess up her original, and the signing of the new one means it was an accident that she wants to fix. Not some clever conspiracy that lands you a get-out-of-being-disbarred-free card.

I also noticed a good bit of his "[invitatiton], per subpoena" was actually him whoring his book to Mr. Bush. What a surprise.

-"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill

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Hmm he did not invite God, Jesus, Moses, the Marines or Batman (and yes sorry Nightwng you apparently did not make the cut sorry bro) but if jackieboy boycotts the hearing who will there to represent them?  Oh and btw.   Very mature and professional of you jackie.  Things not going your way so you are going to sulk in your room?  Hardly matters of course, when the hammer comes down (and it IS coming) it does not matter if you are at ground zero, it will find you. 

 

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Getting hitched this weekend: laughing at Jack because of this is an excellent wedding present, I have to say.

Hearing about the proceedings of June 4th may be a special bonus.

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'gratz on the nuptials.

If you find yourself slipping away from the honeymoon suite to check here for news, that's a sign of GP addiction.

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@ Nightwing2000

No worries.  You will be on the next list .

Now, has anyone had a chance to read the letter he submitted to Jeb Bush?  Honestly, if I received a letter like that I would do everything in my gubenatorial powers to avoid him like the plague.  Pure nonsense and drivel attacking someone and telling them in a half-assed cordial way that they have been supeonaed.  How the hell does this man continue to operate on a day to day basis?

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Since Jack is too narcissistic not to read this story, I've got a question:

Hey Jack - You bitch and moan about issues like forged Oaths of Loyalty (which, as JDKJ pointed out, simply means they are de facto judges, whose rulings still stand - nowhere does it say that their rulings are void as you claim), yet you yourself ignore issues like proper filing proceedure and deadlines yet expect that they shouldn't apply to you.  Don't you think this is a little hypocritical?

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You bitch and moan about issues like forged Oaths of Loyalty ... yet you yourself ignore issues like proper filing proceedure and deadlines yet expect that they shouldn't apply to you.  Don't you think this is a little hypocritical?

I think it's well established by now that Jack only applies the rules to other people. Everyone else has to follow the law, not him. Jesus told him the rules don't apply to him. At least in the dreams involving the unicorn and the baby Dracula...

He seems to be of the opinion that if the court is "corrupt"/"criminal"/"insane", then he doesn't have to listen to anything they say.

Up here in Canada, that defense wouldn't stand. You have to follow the rules of the court, no matter how stupid. You can appeal them, but you have to obey them unless you get a stay, until your appeal goes through.

Especially if you agreed to said rules in order to get your Bar license. Which is what this all boils down to. Jack agreed to follow the rules to get his license. He can try to get the rules changed, but until then, HE HIMSELF has to follow them to keep his license (as has been pointed out before, just because other people also break the rules, does not excuse him).

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What???

He didn't include me???

Hmph!

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Oh hell, Nightwng2000, I'm surprised he didn't include ME because of the e-mail convo between me and him. Oh, God, I'm about to have a heart attack!  *urk!* (keels over)

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Re: Analyzing Jack Thompson's Would-be Witnesses

Who would ever hire this guy to be their lawyer? I've never taken a law class in my life, but even I can figure out he's an idiot with no plan. Writing to the governor telling him he made an error in appointing someone, then joshin' with him about his golf score... WTF??

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Wouldn't the time to call witnesses have been during the trial????

This is like someone who has been found guilty of murder trying to call witnesses during the sentencing phase.

Too late dude.  That's what appeals are for.

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The only reason I can think of for this madness is so the ol' bastard could later on scream out his conspiracy drivel, and that the state had poisoned everyone against him... purely for attention AFTER the case and most stories about him have ended.

 

Further ego trip.  Otherwise he'd need to take a dozen intelligence tests before even thinking about a sanity one.

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The upshot is that Judge Tunis will not allow Thompson to subpoena witnesses for next week's hearing. Thompson has indicated that he will boycott thr hearing. Out of curiousity, can Thompson boycott the hearing without getting in trouble for not showing up?

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<i>Out of curiousity, can Thompson boycott the hearing without getting in trouble for not showing up?</i>

Sure, they'll just make a summary default judgment, which will almost certainly be to concur with every finding (since no one's around to dispute them), plus handing down the maximum penalty.

From anyone else, that would be the worst thing they could do.  But this is Jack Thompson we're talking about: not showing up is likely to actually make a better impression on the justices.  :)

 

Re: Analyzing Jack Thompson's Would-be Witnesses

dunno, but it's hard to imagine how he could be in more trouble than he's already in...

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Of course. It's called comtempt of court. And, moreover, it arguably would violate any number of Bar Conduct Rules. And, even if he doesn't show up, I don't think that any real impediment to the Court proceeding towards issuance of its Report. Kinda like the Nuremburg Trials.

 
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