Submitted by Rodrigo Ybáñez García - May 29, 2008 at 5:30 pm -0500
I smell a video games bash Fox News style...
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Submitted by Loudspeaker - May 29, 2008 at 5:43 pm -0500
I'm going to have to agree. This sounds like a one sided slamfest with comments taken out of context for ratings. I'm sure there won't be any mention of the biggest opposing voice being close to disbarment in this lovely piece.
-Loudspeaker "Volume helps to get a point across but sharp teeth are better."
Submitted by GRIZZAM PRIME - May 29, 2008 at 6:18 pm -0500
Who the hell watches CNBC?
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Submitted by Belgarion89 - May 29, 2008 at 7:44 pm -0500
As an investor, I watch CNBC on occasion, and I have yet to hear something vaguely intelligent on that channel. In fact, I'm quite convinced that the reason so many dumb people are in the business world is because all the smart people are scientists doing stuff like curing cancer. Or making video games.
Submitted by Grendal - May 29, 2008 at 9:18 pm -0500
At 15 minutes in we are already talking about violence, still it is funny that the nintendo guys doesn't even remember that the blood in mortal kombat got turned into sweat. ESRB is talking now, I dunno I'll give it the benefit of the doubt until the end.
Submitted by Grendal - May 29, 2008 at 9:28 pm -0500
They are also showing footage from some really awful games as filler, I mean why exactly did they choose the nightcrawler game? Still though the violence part was more balanced then I thought, the announcer is starting to irritate me though.
Was that bloodwake as the first game they showed the two people playing? I know I'm one of five people that played it but it sure looked alot like bloodwake.
Submitted by Paul Farinelli - May 29, 2008 at 9:51 pm -0500
Ha, it's pathetic how Jack here loves to troll internet forums dishing out "jokes" that I assume he thinks are witty. I guess acting like you're better than everyone else on some website is a nice way to escape the reality of being a know-nothing attorney. (most likey without the "attorney" part after June 4th)
Submitted by Grendal - May 29, 2008 at 10:00 pm -0500
So after watching it I'm pleasently surprised, it was a very fair even-handed portrayel. The violence stuff did come earlier than I would have preferred but at least it was short and they showed all the research that shows that there isn't a connection between games and violence. I especially liked that it was people from the industry talking without any of the shrill folks who like to make things up.
All in all I'm pleased with the show, it was mostly complimentary and took a nice look at were the industry is going; still hate the announcer though.
Submitted by Jack Wessels - May 29, 2008 at 10:50 pm -0500
So what you're saying is a little bit of Thompson died inside tonight? Fairness and balance is to Thompson as Arsenic and Lead are to humans. He can handle small amounts, but the more that he experiences the more it affects him, and eventually it's fatile.
Submitted by Grendal - May 30, 2008 at 12:07 am -0500
Pretty much, we can see that from his comment above. This kind of coverage that acknowledges that gaming is growing and more and more people are going to be gamers and that the old lines about "games cause violence" isn't going to be tolerated. So it's not even so much of an issue of fairness and balance as it is a fact of truth.
Submitted by PHOENIXZERO - May 30, 2008 at 12:33 am -0500
There's is a 1AM replay so I'm watching it now. Talking about the MK violence thing, failed to mention the changing of the fatalities on the SNES. I've thought this for years but is it just me or does Lieberman always sound like he's constipated? At least they do seem to have somewhat balanced this.... Well, not really since certain things weren't exactly delved into *COUGHDEVINMOORECOUGHCOUGH* and no real counterpoints or comments from anyone good, plus I think they've recycled some things from their "Game On" program....
Submitted by thefremen - May 30, 2008 at 4:39 am -0500
Boy it sure was nostalgic when they were talking about Will Wright and the early days of Maxis and the early days of EA. If current day EA owned Maxis in the early 90s there would be no Sim titles at all, especially no Sim Ant.
Posted 07/04/09 at 09:24pm PHX Corp: For those that want to know what i watching it's called man vs cartoon(a.k.a fixing Wile E. coyote's Mistakes one trap at a time by EMERTEC)
Posted 07/04/09 at 08:20pm GoodRobotUs: Went out for my Mum's 65th Birthday, which is the only relevance 4/7 has in the UK for me ;)
Posted 07/04/09 at 08:18pm Andrew Eisen: Beach + fireworks + root beer + strawberries, blackberries, raspberries, whipped topping, and pound cake = my Fourth of July!
Posted 07/04/09 at 07:58pm GoodRobotUs: Which seems to be the only point Jack proved, that some people find some games offensive. i.e. Nothing.
Posted 07/04/09 at 07:57pm GoodRobotUs: The discussion was supposed to be whether games were dangerous not 'Do you find some games offensive'...
Posted 07/04/09 at 07:55pm GoodRobotUs: Some agreed, some didn't, but it was their choice to make, not the governments.
Posted 07/04/09 at 07:55pm GoodRobotUs: By asking the audience their opinion, he more or less proved that it's a matter of personal choice
Posted 07/04/09 at 07:55pm GoodRobotUs: Meh, he ended proving Mark's point for him
Posted 07/04/09 at 07:26pm Erik: Jack if you are reading this you are a LIAR. There is no legal weight to the MPAA's ratings.
Posted 07/04/09 at 07:24pm JDKJ: I still think my buddy the midget who rides a unicycle backwards while juggling four bowling pins would have been a much bigger hit with that crowd. And he can make up statistics and misinterpret studies, too.
Posted 07/04/09 at 06:33pm Alyric: Of course, Mark falls into the common trap about Columbine, which had nothing to do with bullying, etc. See: http://slate.msn.com/id/2099203/?GT1=3256 for a more thorough explanation.
Posted 07/04/09 at 06:32pm PHX Corp: Read this http://www.destructoid.com/sgc-09-liveblogging-the-jack-thompson-debate-138502.phtml#ext
Posted 07/04/09 at 05:54pm PHX Corp: JT is afraid of such ban then advocates it That's what i call a total Hypocrite
Posted 07/04/09 at 05:50pm PHX Corp: AE: JT is a -Bleeping- Jackass
Posted 07/04/09 at 05:07pm Andrew Eisen: JT "knew it would be a good audience." Not what he said on Tuesday.
Posted 07/04/09 at 05:01pm Andrew Eisen: VG cause violent behavior. VG companies influence behavior to get sales. Yeah, that makes sense. (To be fair, the Twitter feed makes deciphering JT's point pretty tough.)
Posted 07/04/09 at 04:52pm Andrew Eisen: Yes, it's been proposed but as far as I know it has not been passed. Big difference.
Posted 07/04/09 at 04:50pm Cheater87: http://www.gamezine.co.uk/news/formats/xbox360/all-violent-video-games-be-banned-in-germany-$1301757.htm
Posted 07/04/09 at 04:49pm Andrew Eisen: Far as I know, Germany has not banned all violent video games.
Posted 07/04/09 at 04:44pm Cheater87: Jack wants the US to follow Germany's total video game ban.
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First??
Video game violence, eh? I wonder what game will get mentioned!
I smell a video games bash Fox News style...
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I'm going to have to agree. This sounds like a one sided slamfest with comments taken out of context for ratings. I'm sure there won't be any mention of the biggest opposing voice being close to disbarment in this lovely piece.
-Loudspeaker
"Volume helps to get a point across but sharp teeth are better."
Who the hell watches CNBC?
-GRIZZAM PRIME(c)is property of the U.S. Marine Corp. Wetworks Dept., and also The Incredible Hulk-GRIZZAM PRIME is not to be associated with GRIZZAM 512 or any other GRIZZAM entity under penalty of law, so sayith ZARATHOS.
I'm gonna have to catch the repeat of this Sunday.....
Lost. =\
AMEN, MAH BROTHA! That was most definitely the best season finale of LOST yet!!!
/fellow lostie
//r.i.p. john locke
As an investor, I watch CNBC on occasion, and I have yet to hear something vaguely intelligent on that channel. In fact, I'm quite convinced that the reason so many dumb people are in the business world is because all the smart people are scientists doing stuff like curing cancer. Or making video games.
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DVRing it :)
At 15 minutes in we are already talking about violence, still it is funny that the nintendo guys doesn't even remember that the blood in mortal kombat got turned into sweat. ESRB is talking now, I dunno I'll give it the benefit of the doubt until the end.
Whoever they have playing DOOM is just plain awful at it.
They are also showing footage from some really awful games as filler, I mean why exactly did they choose the nightcrawler game? Still though the violence part was more balanced then I thought, the announcer is starting to irritate me though.
Was that bloodwake as the first game they showed the two people playing? I know I'm one of five people that played it but it sure looked alot like bloodwake.
Watching right now.
My opinion: eh, it's okay. At least they didn't spin the hell out of the violence issue, and stayed respectably neutral.
I'm watching it as well.
As much as I keep expecting it, I'm glad our self appointed enemy hasn't appeared.
-kurisu7885
GRRRR seeing Hillary makes me mad :P
Ha, it's pathetic how Jack here loves to troll internet forums dishing out "jokes" that I assume he thinks are witty. I guess acting like you're better than everyone else on some website is a nice way to escape the reality of being a know-nothing attorney. (most likey without the "attorney" part after June 4th)
I knew about it from the commercials but then forgot. >_<
So after watching it I'm pleasently surprised, it was a very fair even-handed portrayel. The violence stuff did come earlier than I would have preferred but at least it was short and they showed all the research that shows that there isn't a connection between games and violence. I especially liked that it was people from the industry talking without any of the shrill folks who like to make things up.
All in all I'm pleased with the show, it was mostly complimentary and took a nice look at were the industry is going; still hate the announcer though.
So what you're saying is a little bit of Thompson died inside tonight? Fairness and balance is to Thompson as Arsenic and Lead are to humans. He can handle small amounts, but the more that he experiences the more it affects him, and eventually it's fatile.
Pretty much, we can see that from his comment above. This kind of coverage that acknowledges that gaming is growing and more and more people are going to be gamers and that the old lines about "games cause violence" isn't going to be tolerated. So it's not even so much of an issue of fairness and balance as it is a fact of truth.
There's is a 1AM replay so I'm watching it now. Talking about the MK violence thing, failed to mention the changing of the fatalities on the SNES. I've thought this for years but is it just me or does Lieberman always sound like he's constipated? At least they do seem to have somewhat balanced this.... Well, not really since certain things weren't exactly delved into *COUGHDEVINMOORECOUGHCOUGH* and no real counterpoints or comments from anyone good, plus I think they've recycled some things from their "Game On" program....
Sim Ant? Oh man, I loved that game! Charge, my soldier ants, charge to vic-- RETREAT LAWN MOWER!
I started to watch it...but was willed away by a violent video game
Imagine if you went back in time, and showed the people who were complaining about the video game "Death Race" and showed them GTA IV.