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While many churches are embracing video game nights as a means of reaching out to youth, a pastor in Newport News, Virginia would like to see violent video games and rap music go up in smoke.
As reported by the Daily Press, Rev. Richard Patrick, 42, blames violent entertainment for the crime which he says has affected 90% of his congregation in one way or another:
We are considering having something similar to a rally where parents and children can bring CDs and video games that they consider are destructive to the mind set of our youth and have a burning...
Young people are being influenced by what they see and what they hear. They are being influenced by television ... television and videos are telling young people a vision but something that's not reality...
[Violent media] has a tremendous influence on young people and violence. That's basically all they see. Most of them try to emulate what they see, when in reality, the people they see don't even live in those communities. Some of the rappers they see on TV portraying crime don't live in the urban areas — they live in the suburbs somewhere. It's all a facade.
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Sieg Heil, Pastor Patrick. I guess it’s true what they say. Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Some people apparently have very short memories. Remember this saying, Pastor Patrick: This only is denied to God: the power to undo the past. But the power to learn from the mistakes of the past is completely in the hands of man. So let’s do ourselves and god a favor, shall we? Let’s at least not repeat the mistakes of those who came before us. You got to love the blatant self-contradiction in the act of burning material you deem as inciting violence. Respond to violence with more violence. Brilliant work, Pastor Patrick. Nice to know that your bible has taught you so much. Now, go spread the hatred (sarcasm intended).
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Wow Im gonna kill this dude.
Go to hell you pastor freak.
This is just a piece of crap. I play violent video games and im just a little teenage girl! You gonna force your religon on me? No. Because I wont fucking let you...you jesus freak.
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Wow, this amazes me about the stupidity of people. Just to clarify up front I'm a gamer, heavy-metal fan, a gun owner, non-religious, and generally a good person. This article is so full of crap. I've played so many violent video games that are definitely rated M. I have yet to act out any of these gestures with the exception of messing around with friends and making "gun" hands at each other. Video games don't make people do violent acts, that's what our parents are for, to teach us the difference between right and wrong. Mentally unstable people and parents that don't tell their kids the difference are to blame for people shooting up a school and what not. I'm not a rap fan, but they blamed heavy metal back in the 80s, wtf. The worst lyrics I have heard from 80s metal is probably stuff from Slayer, and honestly, they're just talking about stuff like satanism. Woop-di-fucking-do. They write lyrics that sound good, they're Christian guys for the most part. They don't try to influence people to get out of line and go mess everything up. Honestly I don't know where this guy came from, but he's hit the top of my shit list along with Jack Thomson.
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parden me but does anyone even know what part of a video dame is even flamable
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Are parents really going to burn something they paid 60 bucks for?
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"Burning books is only one step away from burning people" some one i cant remeber the name of on the nazis burning jewish books.
but i do enjoy the irony of a church saying that violent media is making people more violent and then telling them to BURN THE EVIL!!!
i am finding it hard to not reminded them of the fact that throughout human history religion has been the "sheild with which cowards have hidden from harm by throwing the innocent in to the fires" (that was an origanal qoute of me but i thought it would sound better in that format)
i didnt bother to read all of the comments so this could have already been said
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Uhoh. There's one unforeseen side effect... all those cds and etc is made from rather toxic chemical. Burning them will expose people to toxic chemicals.
But same time it probably won't affect their brains due to lack of such...
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first all the music was the devil en now games are.
you can't stop the future so don't destroy all the thing you are not formiliour with.
we must let the new things come and have to listen to our selves.
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If they want people to burn things that seem destructive, I'm a going to throw a few bombs in that fire.
See. It's an easy chance for terrorists to put bombs in game cases and throw them in the fire, give them enough time to get out of there and BOOM.
And why don't they just burn bibles if the want to burn things that seem destructive. Maybe we should burn prisioners and books.
Really. Besides, burning plastic gives out noxious chemicals. I wouldn't want to be anywhere near there when that happens, besides, not all videogames are destructive, look at paperboy, ooh I'm going to throw newspaper into windows. What happens then? You lose.
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When I was a kid, my town got together to burn comic books because "Seduction of the Innocent" made parents believe that their kids were becoming brainwashed. The more things change, the more things stay the same...
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What a dumbass
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Im so glad I'm an atheist
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Is that... safe? Throwing a bunch of plastic CD/video games on a fire, I mean. It seems like organizing an event where people are at such a high risk of inhaling the fumes from that sort of thing is fairly iresponsible. Not to mention that the smell would be horrible.
What the Rev. needs to realize is that CDs are not the same as books. Books are made out of paper; out of wood. It's perfectly safe to burn pieces of literature that you don't like. You don't really have to worry about potentially toxic chemicals being released into the air with books. He'd also end up with a bunch of small puddles of plastic melted fast to his church yard.
Exactly how much money does he think he should be spending on this stupidity anyway? Video games are not a cheap rescouce my friend.
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You are right, its probably not safe, very expensive, maybe toxic to the environment, and somewhat hypocritical to one of the 10 commandments. Also, any religious burning of things is strongly reminiscent to the KKK to me for some reason.
On the contrary, if they are burning bad games (i mean games so horrible that noone would want to play period, such as the E.T. game on the Atari), then I'm not sure where to stand on this...
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Well first i think this is stupid. i've been playing violent games through out my life and never have i wanted to commit crimes or rip someon's heart out with my bear hands (lol mortal kombat refrance)
i had a feeling this would have started catching on. In my own oppinion the churches attempt to stop these games are Failing missrabley. the only way to keep this Matrue content out of the hands, and ears of our youth is to educate the parents about these games and cds. just go up to a kids mother or father when their at your local game stop when their buying gta 4 for their kids and say "hey you know that games not appropriate for your kid right?" who cares if the kid will declare a Vendetta on you. at least you've kept them from being warpped.
Me being a reading tutor i talk about games with some of my students about games but they know my feelings about kids their age playing M rated games. and they know to never bring it up due to the promise of detention.
Long story short, Don't burn the games, burn the idea of M rated games are not for kids in the minds of parents.
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Of course, there's nothing violent about taking these objects and Publically Setting Them On Fire. No, no, not at all...
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I lol'd. So what's the point of burning games and CDs anyway? There's plenty more to buy at the store... Are they gonna go raid the store and burn all the "harmful" games and CDs or what..? XD
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exactly, if they did so the companies can sue the churches or these anit gamer orignizations for robbery or vandalism. 1 its bad press for your church. it says yoru not civilized to handle an issue without the use of violence and 2. it perpetuates the idea that some christians are irrattional.
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Wow, that's freakin awesome. I live in Newport News and to know that someone actually did this well....good grief I'm so ashamed
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Kinda reminds me of the mass book-burnings that took place in Nazi Germany in the mid-1930's. It was ordered by Hitler so the German culture can be "purified"; but we all know he ordered the book burnings because he was a man who feared the intelect and hated intelectuals. I guess this reverand fears the change in our culture...just like our buddy JT.
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What saddens me about this report is that the pastor seems to have a genuine sense of concern for his pulpit. It's a shame he's so damn ignorant about the subject matter - he'd probably come up with more constructive activities if he knew better.
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First of all let me state that I am a multi-platform gamer and that I am also a preacher. I have read about 90% of these posts and I am left questioning if you ever even considered what he is doing. The procedure is poor but his point has merit. I don't agree with the burning part due entirely to the environment issues, but the entire process is two fold: 1) he is trying to make clear point that the people that he is involved with do not want to tolerate these kinds of things, it is the same concept of Christians who will not go to r-rated movies or watch r-rated television, who stick to family oriented tv and film (he is a bit misguided but he is allowed his free speech); and 2 the reason for destroying them is because they feel so strongly against them that it would be wrong for them to give them to other people. The idea is the same for a crack addict. If I quit smoking crack and I realize that it was wrong for me to smoke it, I am going to destroy what I have left not hand it over to someone else who still smokes crack or is just expermenting and say "have at it".
I'm finished. Feel free to tear this apart it won't bother me a bit.
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If they want to destroy them, I don't have a problem, their money, their property, if they want to do it publicly, then I begin to get concerned, you should never celebrate destruction, even of things you don't agree with, People who get vindictive about 'doing the right thing' in their own eyes concern me.
I can understand that they may view the whole 'Video Game' thing as though it were crack, an incorrect analogy, but one they are entitled to have if they so wish, but the Police don't have crack-burning parties (at least, not legally), they destroy the offending item and get on with the next job. It's not the choice to reject this media that worries me, it's the fact the fact they seem to want to celebrate destroying something someone else has created, not because they are 'evil' not because they want to 'harm the children', but because they are creative and imaginative and like their entertainment to be more adult in theme.
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Where did it say that they were destroying them because they were creative and imaginative, I must have missed that part of the article? I have known a few other churches who have gone down this road and it had nothing to do with the art that was made. To them it was the same as pornography. To some it may be art but to them they didn't want it around, they suggested if you have it burn it and get rid of it. Was that wrong of them, they destroyed someone elses creativity and imagination? To me I don't see it that way, they want it to be a permanent visual reminder that they will not tolerate these things. When one of these "burnings" usually take place it is more for the congregation than the public. It is a chance to watch the things that they consider sinful to go up in smoke to be destroyed permanently (yes I know they could buy more, but the point is that all the things in their household are now removed and they would have to directly go against their beliefs in a calculated manner in order to return to the sin, rather than just opening the box up and viewing it).
To the many others who have totally lost it over this article, chill out. They aren't going to go the store and by every copy of gt4 they can find and destroy it, they are just getting rid of the things in their own possesion. This is not a personal assault against the gaming world, it a personall asault on the sin in their lives. They feel these games are sinful and they are removing them from their homes, now if they start to protest at the stores who cares, let them, if it bothers you ask yourself why. Deep down, why does it bother you?
And to those of you who suggested bringing bibles to the burning, go ahead, that is between you and God and I'm sure He might bring that up on Judgement day, but either way remember that you can never destroy the eternal Word of God, just an FYI.
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If they're serious about this, the least they could do is hand them in to a recycling depot so all the paper and plastic can be reused. Putting plastic on a bonfire is just going to put more crap into the atmosphere.
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So who wants to show up with fire extinguishers and get some free stuff?
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So when is the bible burning session? After all if he is going to burn something he thinks is harmful to children, then others should be able to do the same.
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"Let's burn and destroy things! Now THERE'S a good example for our children!"
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If this comes to pass then Videogames will have truly become the modern day scapegoat of our generation(s). This kind of thing happened with books, movies, and Elvis and now they are all iconic parts of history.
Let the flames of ignorance scorch Videogames into human history! Whooo!
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Yeah, burn rap music. BUT NOT VIDEO GAMES. kthxbai
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I must admit it is ironic of them to do this when any movie of the bible (the ENTIRE bible, passion doesn't count) would very possibly be banned for graphic and extreme use of violence, sexual acts, etc.
Which may be in all honesty proof that they don't actually read the bible? Who knows.
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Okay, first off don't assume Christians are all like this. PLEASE. These people are like the embarrasing cousin to rest of us, they're just a bit iffy.
All they seem to be doing is jumping on the band wagon, and this isn't a good thing. It's what caused the crusades, holocaust, etc. This is a symbol, not that they mean to show this, that they're actually destroying people's freedom. What they're doing here is downright evil, not to mention stupid and badly thought out and not researched at all.
These people, ladies and Gentlemen, aren't followers of god, they're sheep to a bad shepperd, if you'll pardon the annalogy. I wish them good luck and a decent dose of brain cells, which they seem to be lacking in.
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Does the Term 'Nazi Book Burning' come to mind here? Burn anything that goes against your ideas to 'protect' the people. Besides What ever happened to Death Metal being the cause of the worlds problems?
I guess 'Meathook Sodomy' just isn't violent enough anymore :P .
Incidentally I am a church going Christian and a Gamer and I find this Idea to be the most pathetic, ignorant idea ever, please don't listen to people like this guy, he gives us a bad name.
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What about the EPA? The epa could stop this in a second. burning lexan and aluminum will be a hazard to the environment and all the people in the vicinity.
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Sheez Rev. Richard Patrick use firewood next time.
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People burn games.
Games spread noxious fumes to the air.
Greenpeace blames video games for destroying the environment, again...
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Just to let everyone know not all christians are stupid like this pastor. People like this give christians a bad name.
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I just wanna say one thing: I don't care if kids play violent games. I don't care whatsoever. It's not my place, or my responsibility, to tell people what games to let their kids play. That's for their parents to decide. I obviously don't believe that games will make kids violent( I always thought that it was funny that violence without blood is fine for kids, but if you add blood, oh hell no! They'll imitate that!) I don't believe that games glorify, normalize, or encourage violence. I don't believe that violent media teaches kids to be violent (even if it did, karate, boxing, wrestling, football, and every other thing in the world are guilty of the same thing). I don't believe that videogames desensitize or increase aggression (even if they did, what's so bad about either of those?). I do however believe that shit like this, with the hysteria and the neophobia, is going to do nothing but breed a bunch of misplaced paranoia that does nothing but distract people from the actual causes of most modern violence, such as shitty homelives, poverty, drug addiction, and other horrible shit. Let's focus on that.
EDIT: That came out as way more than one thing...heheh...sorry...
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I agree, let's focus on the ACTUAL violence. It seems to be a new idea no one has thought of yet.
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That'll take work and thought, not just mindless gestures. Can't have that.
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I love my religion, I'm a believer. But sometimes I wish that these idiots would shut up, actually most of the time I do, they think they're protecting children, but they're just making themselves looks stupid. And they wonder why less people trust the church. *shakes head.*
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Is for people like that I stoped to believe in God...
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Did anyone bother to read the source?
www.dailypress.com/news/dp-local_10questionspatrick_060jun09,0,2560847.story
Q: Have you been affected personally by the violence?
A: I grew up in this area. I graduated from Ferguson High School, and I used to live on 30th Street and Madison Avenue. I have a more personal contact with this community. My brother -in-law, Larry Patterson, was the last homicide in 2007. Not only has it affected me, but, I would say, 90 percent of the congregation has been affected in some way by violence or crime.
No mention of video games here or, violent entertaiment. He blames violence and crime.
Q: Are churches doing enough to help in the area?
A: I would say the church can take the blame for a lot of the problems in the Southeast Community. The Bible tells us as a church if we seek God's face, he would change the community. Until the church does what it's supposed to do, the community won't change. The church needs to be more outward and more outreach, to reach the community. My purpose is not only to pastor this church, but to pastor my community. I think the churches are doing better in helping, but there's always room for improvement. We have to go beyond meetings, and sometimes as churches, we have meetings and come back and have meetings about the meetings. We have to put some action behind our words.
Sounds like he's accepting some culpability for the state of his community rather than placing blame. He mentions burning cds and games in that one blurb, but barely mentions them otherwise in that interview. If anything, it sounds like the site merely put in the video game angle to get more attention. Looks like it worked.