ESA Canada Lauds Copyright Legislation But Others Not So Sure

June 12, 2008 -

The ESA's Canadian cousin, ESA Canada (ESAC), has issued a press release in support of a copyright reform bill introduced by the government of Prime Minister Stephen Harper (left).

Joan Ramsay, president of ESAC, praised the measure:

It's simple: Every time someone acquires an illegal copy of a video game, money, in turn, is not going to those Canadians who work so hard to develop and publish games. That's money that cannot be reinvested in creativity, job growth, and industry development. Copyright reform is essential to strengthen our competitiveness as an industry.

But not every Canadian is so pleased with the proposed new law. David Shipley of the Kings County Record writes:

I'm not opposed to making illegal to download copyrighted music, movies and video games... But I'm dead set against any law that would make it illegal to take music from legally-purchased CDs and put it on your own personal computer or MP3 player - that's fair use.

 

If the Tories include fair-use killing provisions in the updated copyright law, I hope it is defeated either in the House of Commons or by the courts.


A report in the Canadian Press labels the bill controversial:

The long-awaited changes [to the bill] are a hot political potato for [Industry Minister] Prentice, who must find a middle ground between business interests who want strict protection for intellectual property, including recordings and films, and Internet users accustomed to downloading material free.

 

There's speculation is that Mr. Prentice will try to come down the middle as much as possible, imposing a $500 fine on individuals caught downloading copyrighted files... The video game industry wants the law strengthened to allow Internet service providers to monitor high-speed downloads and shut down transfers containing unauthorized copies of games and other files.

University of Ottawa law professor Michael Geist is concerned that the legislation will be too restrictive - like the USA's:

I expect Minister Prentice to characterize the law as a Made in Canada solution, yet the reality will be that the key provisions are born in the USA. In doing so, the new law will have serious negative effects for Canadian consumers who could be locked out of their own purchased content, as well as for privacy, education, and research.

As GamePolitics has previously reported, here in the US, the ESA has been complaining for years about what it views as lax Canadian copyright protections. Yet, some officials north of the border are loathe to implement a Canadian version of the US's consumer-unfriendly Digital Millenium Copyright Act (DMCA).


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Re: ESA Canada Lauds Copyright Legislation But Others Not So

Thanks good job;

Btw, I think Atari and Midway will drop out too, but mostly travesti because  these guys have done nothing travesti or little and need to start saving costs. and dizi izle

YES.

Now I don't have to get off my ass for the important shit anymore!

Whats next, ordering pizza from Xbox live?

Wait... I think that sounds like a good idea.

But I think voting should MAKE you get off your ass, and see outside or a second while you go vote. I mean, your picking the president of the United States of America for God's Sake... least you can do is drive down there and punch out a card.

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I'm all for freedom of ttnet vitamin speech and allowing rent a car game makers to put whatever they want in games, but there's one thing about this app that has me scratching my head.  Correct me if I'm wrong, but from araç kiralama the previous article araba kiralama on this I gathered that players can use Google maps in-game to find the other (real-life?) dealers in their area.  If this is the case, has travesti anyone considered what's stopping someone from using this app to actually move drugs between hands for reals?

But majority araba kiralama of their outrage araç kiralama stems from what it could DO TO children, not the content itself.  Talk to one of these people and you'll find they don't think any books kiralık araba should be banned from children.  Mention American Psycho and they talk about kiralık araç the redeeming value of using imagination to construct a story.  Reading, no matter what the content, is largely viewed as a consequenceless activity for people of any age.  The reason why I mention American Psycho is because of the content itself.  Gaming never has and likely never will have any scenes where someone has sex with a severed head.  Not gonna happen.  Yet despite this, they'll fight tooth and nail to protect their children from two boys kissing in Bully but whatever they read is harmless... yeah.

The entire arguement is kiralık oto based upon a social normality inflicted by luddites who can't figure out the controls for Halo so it's frightening and terrifying and obviously the cause of youth violence on the rise even though, in reality, it's in decline (which is actually a HUGE suprise given minibüs kiralama the economies status).  In  a perfect world, we would have parents that actually parent.  The idea of sales restrictions on media on oto kiralama any form to accomidate parental unwillingness to get involved with their child's life is the real problem to me.  Here I am, 32 years old, and being held up at a self-scan rent a car needing to show ID before I can buy a $10 M rated game all because Soccer Momthra can't be bothered to look at the crap Billy Genericallystupidson does in his free time.  It's too hard for her, so I have to suffer?

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 This law sucks. It's unenforceable and it creates a police state.

Re: ESA Canada Lauds Copyright Legislation But Others Not So

I urge all Caandians to countinue to upload and download, music, Telivison shows and movies as a boycott.

 

They can't sue us all.

Re: ESA Canada Lauds Copyright Legislation But Others Not So

 

All this dose is ensure the media mafia can sue people for up to 20 grand when and prevent them from porting their media to their players of choice, because it prevents the breaking of protection schemes.

 

The emdia mafia needs to get away from harassing and telling consumer what they can do with media in private use settings and that including sharing it, they need to focus on illicit profit and compete with the industry they themselves have made.

 

 

 On a side note it seems modchips will be legal again in the UK if things keep going in the right direction.

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Re: ESA Canada Lauds Copyright Legislation But Others Not So

Im actually none to happy with this developments I have never liked the conservative goverment, and this bill seems QUITE FLAWED after reading a lot about it. and SCREAMS of the conservatives trying to please the US.

granted in the end is not gonna matter much,   the people who did it in the pass will keep doing it, also  if I remember well the 2005 trying of the same thing  failed ,  this migth suffer the same fate. who knows, and if not the courts migth over turn it for it is flawed.

That being said, Im not againts  copyrigth protection, Im againts this particular bill.

this cant end well anyway.
 

Re: ESA Canada Lauds Copyright Legislation But Others Not So

A liberal prime minister would have used this American-pushed copywrite legislation as toilet paper. Leave it to Steven "Suck Bush's ****" Harper to screw up this country.

To everyone in Canada who voted conservative: this is YOUR fault.

Re: ESA Canada Lauds Copyright Legislation But Others Not So

You're right in regards to this law, which is painfully sickening, but he's still done a far better job than any liberal government in the past 20 years.

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These guys have been trying to pull this crap since the eighties.  In this video the one woman in it claimes you can only install one software on one computer at a time, have to purchase a compy for each computer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOBroA2NPNY

Re: ESA Canada Lauds Copyright Legislation But Others Not So

LMAO, good ol' "Don't Copy that Floppy" that video is a huge pile of BS, nothing like a complete creepy looking guy magically showing up on a crappy computer monitor and being a total tool rapping to get the kids/middle school play quality actors interested.. It gives me a headache, can't watch it with the sound on.

But don't forget those companies that were involved, including a little companies with games that aren't being made anymore because of all the floppy copying, sadly we never heard of Neverwinter Nights again. Oh yeah and they had the nerve to use Tetris. >_>

Re: ESA Canada Lauds Copyright Legislation But Others Not So

Don't you just love it when a-holes try to connect with youth?

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Re: ESA Canada Lauds Copyright Legislation But Others Not So

Instead of putting copy protection, why not directly attack the crack websites, or those Chinese cheap DVD sales place.

Re: ESA Canada Lauds Copyright Legislation But Others Not So

To this day I still thank William Jefferson Clinton (and those in the house and senate who voted) for the DMCA and NAFTA.


 

I second that

Clinton is to blame, but it got bipartisian support in the USA.  Congress critters love their money and they serve their corporate masters, and do not represent the direct needs or wants of the people.

Note-both McCain and Obama have the same ultimate goal-to serve their corporate masters.

Hopefully, enough people will get upset in Canada about a DMCA law there and will let the politicians know.  In the USA, the masses are not that concerned about privacy, but in Canada and especially Europe, that's another matter entirely.

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I'm not insulting you when I say this, but when you said corporate masters I was reminded of Team America.

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Re: ESA Canada Lauds Copyright Legislation But Others Not So

Even 500$ / song is a stupid idea. To give you an idea: in Quebec, driving at 110 km/h in 30 km/h cost you 495$ ticket. Now i'm asking, what is more dangerous, a teenager downloading a Avril Lavigne's album or, god forbid, a video game or some crazy driver making speed racing?

Re: ESA Canada Lauds Copyright Legislation But Others Not So

Actually, driving at 110km/h in a 30km/h zone now cost you 1295$ (and you're one tiny offense short of losing your driving licence now). It's getting pretty nasty to drive fast in Québec nowadays.

 

Back on the point, I do believe that law would hurt sales more than anything else. I usually try my games and download my music cd's before I buy them. Good game? I buy it. Bad one, I erase it. Same for music.

Re: ESA Canada Lauds Copyright Legislation But Others Not So

@GP: What's the ECA's opinion of this legislation?

Re: ESA Canada Lauds Copyright Legislation But Others Not So

What I'd like to know is, in the event that the bill is passed, what then happens to the blank media levy that Canadians currently have to pay?  We're currently paying it now as a subsidy to compensate the artists/studios/corporations for the supposed lost money for the currently-legal free copies obtained via "non-traditional" methods.  If said copies suddenly become illegal, would the levy still be in place? I suspect that it still wouldn't disappear, or even if it did, the price difference wouldn't be passed along to the consumer.

Re: ESA Canada Lauds Copyright Legislation But Others Not So

What I'd like to know is, in the event that the bill is passed, what then happens to the blank media levy that Canadians currently have to pay?

Nothing directly, but the government is pushing to have it expanded to include harddrives, which would mean an iPod tax...

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Re: ESA Canada Lauds Copyright Legislation But Others Not So

I find this all very confuseing. Could some one explain to me what this all means? I have read all of this stuff and it keeps flying over my head.

Re: ESA Canada Lauds Copyright Legislation But Others Not So

This bill will be defeated by the courts.  It will pass the House of Commons unfortunately because our political system is in such turmoil.  There's honestly no good party anymore.

Tories:  Business first, screw social programs.

Liberals:  Stephan Dion has the personality of a limp dish rag.

NDP:  Sure, their social program support may sound good... but where's the money coming from?

Bloc Quebeqois:  Traitors.  Every last one of them.

any of the other "parties" aren't even worth mentioning.

Re: ESA Canada Lauds Copyright Legislation But Others Not So

Forget about the possibility of $20,000-per-file lawsuits against the 15 million Canadians who leave their music in a "share" folder for others to download; the reason this bill is written so poorly is because Jim Prentice has his lips firmly applied to the backside of US trade reps and entertainment lobbyists who would like nothing better than to wipe out any kind of grassroots media spreading and shut down the Canadian artistic community.  This isn't just anti-consumer legislation, it's cultural warfare: say hello to nothing but Hollywood movies in our theatres, the Nashville sound on our country-music stations, and the American anthem at our hockey games!

That the ESAC is supportive, even in the face of the overwhelming evidence that this will be bad for every other industry and the country as a whole, proves to me that they're every bit as incompetent as their American counterpart.  Along with C-10 (the bill to refuse tax credits to movies with 'objectionable' content) it's another piece of the groundwork that the Tories are laying to try and remove any trace of creative endeavour from us.  I'm not a big fan of the current Liberal administration either, but at this point I'd vote for 'em if it meant getting rid of the boneheads in power.

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Re: ESA Canada Lauds Copyright Legislation But Others Not So

Law Prof Michael Geist has a website "30 things you can do about copyright reform"

http://michaelgeist.ca/

He's been fighting this kind of "corporations first, screw the consumer" copyright reform for quite some time now, and has been credited with organizing the protests that stalled the last version of this bill.

About the only good thing he's found is that they do "notice and notice", instead of "notice and takedown", which should cut down on the DMCA "take it down because I don't like it" abuses that are rampant in the US, but on the other hand, adhering to ACTA means that the "safe-harbour" stuff goes out the window anyway, so instead of sending a notice they'll just sue the ISP directly...

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Re: ESA Canada Lauds Copyright Legislation But Others Not So

I'll be fighting this every step of the way. While I don't promote piracy I do believe consumers and companies need to come to an agreement on what's fair. All I see right now is a bunch of corporate lobbists pushing this "sue-everyone-on-the-planet" bill on us.

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This better damn well not happen, I'm in Canada after all.

Re: ESA Canada Lauds Copyright Legislation But Others Not So

ESAC is just RIAA in sheep's clothing.

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"You gotta fight.......For your right.........To COPY!"

Sorry, first thing that popped in my head.  Hope that Canada can see this as a "not-good" thing and make it go away.  That's my hope...not sure I think it'll happen, but that's what I hope happens.

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It's simple: Every time someone acquires an illegal copy of a video game, money, in turn, is not going to those Canadians who work so hard to develop and publish games

WOW WHAT A COMPLETE LOAD OF BS! SUCH AN OVERSIMPLIFICATION ITS UNTRUE!

Sorry, although i personally believe in paying for games ( i dont pirate anything ), i know people who do. To say that they would spend cash on these games if they couldnt pirate them is true in maybe 1 in 1000 cases. (theres an article on gamasutra ill try n find that talks about that exact statistic if i recall correctly, and it was from a game dev doing research into its own copy protection , which they eventually dropped, as a result of the analysis! - EDIT: found it 'Casual Games and Piracy: The Truth by Russell Carroll ' http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=17350 - they actually found that over say 50,000 sales, DRM protected around 50 lost sales!)

Majoritively (the people i know) they pirate it because they are UNSURE if they actually want it, play for like an hour say, 'this is crap' and delete it.  Just saves them going to the store picking it up, bringing it home, playing it, hating it, getting back in the car driving back , and refunding it. I KNOW people who pirate games, and ALWAYS buy them if they like it. It doesnt ALWAYS mean (not saying never) , that a developer has  'lost money'. eg 100 pirated downloads does NOT = 100 lost sales. I HATE how some people over simplify the issue and state that it does.

To say that its simple and that EVERY time some1 pirates its a lost sale is CRAP. I would actually argue that piracy can infact sometimes even GENERATE sales.

For example, I actually once saw an episode of Prison break that was pirated ( i didnt pirate it, a friend did n had it on o his pc) and the dvd boxed sets went from being on my 'never ever gonna buy' list to ' wow i really want this'. Ive now bought 2 series of prison break. Thats like £50 i wouldn never have spent had it NOT been for piracy! The same went for one of my friends who watched a few pilots of anime series on download, loved them n spent HUNDREDS on boxed sets!

Additionally look at Stardock's fantastic work with Sins of a solar empire and the galactic Civilisations series.

No copy protection, but all relly good sellers making a good profit... In fact they ENCOURAGE distribution to friends (can be installed from the CD, requires no key etc) and simply offer ADDITIONAL content if you pay for a registration. That way they reach a far bigger audience than they normally would through just those that decide to buy it there and then in a store, and actually GENERATE sales form people playing, getting hooked, and subsequently paying to get the extras!

 

Hope i made my point!

 

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There is no evidence that piracy helps sales. And why on Earth would people who pirated a working copy of a game buy that same game?

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Well actually my friends are proof that piracy helps sell a game.  I bought Sins of a Solar Empire then lent my friend a copy which is allowed under the EULA.  He LOVED it and purchased himself a copy.  He then lent a copy out and now THAT friend purchased the game.

So due to their pro-consumer EULA they made 3x the sales than they would have otherwise.

Think about that.  If you stop piracy completely then do you REALLY think those who play the games for free will actually purchase the game for the price listed?  The economic answer is no.  So the reality is there is probably about a 1% loss in sales.  How many more sales due to marketing the game through experiencing it do you think offset that 1%?

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cheers for adding that! i knew i wasnt the only one who had seen piracy GENERATE sales!

(stardock rock with Sins of a solar empire)

 

the good thing is (see my original post at the top of this reply tree for a link to the gamasutra article) that its not even a 1% loss in sales due to piracy. Its a 1:1000 ratio. Eg for every 1000 pirates you stop with DRM only 1 (yes ONE IN A THOUSAND) would have actually paid for the game!

 so thats what like, 0.1%  of pirates actually = a LOST sale!

(check out the article for the details! its amazing to actually see a REAL case study!)

Re: ESA Canada Lauds Copyright Legislation But Others Not So

And nevermind all those games that I now refuse to buy (I buy just about all my games) because they have StarForce or some other BS copy protection on it that installs itself on my machine.

As for piracy increasing sales... this isn't necessarily true of games but I can think of at least one example where it is definitely true.  Photoshop.  It is likely the industry standard of photo imaging software purely because it's pirated so much.  Let's face it, a graphics shop will buy a copy, but if people didn't pirate it, where would they hire people (few people can afford to buy the program for personal use).

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'There is no evidence that piracy helps sales'

perhaps you forgot to read half of my post I said:

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For example, I actually once saw an episode of Prison break that was pirated ( i didnt pirate it, a friend did n had it on o his pc) and the dvd boxed sets went from being on my 'never ever gonna buy' list to ' wow i really want this'. Ive now bought 2 series of prison break. Thats like £50 i wouldn never have spent had it NOT been for piracy! The same went for one of my friends who watched a few pilots of anime series on download, loved them n spent HUNDREDS on boxed sets!

Additionally look at Stardock's fantastic work with Sins of a solar empire and the galactic Civilisations series.

No copy protection, but all relly good sellers making a good profit... In fact they ENCOURAGE distribution to friends (can be installed from the CD, requires no key etc) and simply offer ADDITIONAL content if you pay for a registration. That way they reach a far bigger audience than they normally would through just those that decide to buy it there and then in a store, and actually GENERATE sales form people playing, getting hooked, and subsequently paying to get the extras!

''

Again, not saying its a hard and fast rule, but in MY experience (again personal, not indicative of everyone) piracy HAS helped generate sales. That experience RIGHT THERE is evidence for piracy generating sales is it not...? You can argue that its only a small piece of evidence, perhaps it is, but Its a pretty commonplace experience where i live. i KNOW FOR A FACT that sveral of my friends have tried things they would NOT have ever bought because it wasn't their usual preferred genre of game, and have liked it (un expectedly) and then bought it as a result. I have friends who have played a badly put together demo, hated it, tried the download on advice from a friend and then bought the game.

And why on Earth would people who pirated a working copy of a game buy that same game

fair point, but again, in MY experience (not indicitave of everyone) piracy hasn't been to 'steal' the content (although i completely agree it'd be naieve to say that nobody pirates to steal, of course some people do), its been more of a 'try before you buy' type thing. They  buy it because they understand that somebody has spent money to make it, and respect that. THey just dont want th hassle of having their fingers burnt buying a piece of crap game (kane and lynch for example) and then having the hassle fo driving back to the store and refunding it, and the store then cant sell the game as new so money is lost anyway! (with Pc games in england , most stores wont even accept returns! ) all that is avoided and is far easier by downloading, trying then buying.  Not only trying for 'fun' but also compatibility and system specs.

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There's no evidence it hurts it though either (the argument goes that a person who pirated it, likely wouldn't have bought it in the first place anyway...). At least not enough to justify treating all your paying customers as if they WERE criminals.

I'll admit I've downloaded anti-copy cracks. Why? Because I was sick of all the anti-copy stuff in the software I've legally purchased. Checking for CD, checking my computer, reporting back to a server on the net, monitoring my other apps, reporting private information it scoured from my computer, etc.

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There is evidence for it in the less developed nations.

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There is evidence for it in the less developed nations.

Ok, so why not punish them? Why punish me, a legal media consumer, in a way that doesn't even begin to address how the Chinese pirater got ahold of his copy? I get $20,000 fines for wanting to skip commercials on my DVD, or watch it on my iPod, and the Chinese pirater gets... nothing, because he stole the master un-encrypted copy from the Chinese DVD plant in the first place...

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 This is one of the reasons why the ESA is dying a slow death.

ECA for the win!

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God I hope the DMCA doesn't spread.  The DMCA is easily one of the most short-sighted laws ever passed.

Want to know why textbooks for college are so expensive?  (I spent $800 a SEMESTER) it's because the DMCA removed the fair-use exception to copywright royalties for textbooks.

Basically, it used to be that if you were printing a textbook that was a compilation of essays, articles etc, you got to pay drastically reduced fees (or sometime no fees at all) for the use of those articles.

DMCA said nope, no more, you have to pay full price.  Which means that a $20 book is now an $80 book.

Forget all the other problems with the DMCA, THAT right there is evidence of its stupidity.  Textbook prices have risen close to 300% in 10 years.  THATS INSANE.

Re: ESA Canada Lauds Copyright Legislation But Others Not So

Are downloading CD songs to computer illegal in the US? I didn't think so. Also, what's with this anti-American bent?

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@Dark Sovereign- Format shifting on its own is not illegal based on case law (notably the Diamond case, which relied on the fair use doctrine), although certain RIAA representatives have put their foots in their mouths regarding that particular issue. However, if the CD is protected by a technological protection mechanism (i.e., DRM), it is illegal to circumvent that protection mechanism under the anti-circumvention provisions of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act except under very narrow circumstances, even when such use would otherwise be legal. So the answer is "it depends." :P

Re: ESA Canada Lauds Copyright Legislation But Others Not So

Also, what's with this anti-American bent?

Mostly because the bill was clearly written to appease US business, not to conform to WIPO. DMCA, with all the consumer rights taken out.

It's the DMCA had the US corporations managed block all the exceptions that legislators put in. Jim Prentice had claimed he was going to consult with consumers, but he's met with a total of two groups. US business interests, and Canadian arms of US business interests.

Hence the resentment of "kowtowing to US interests"...

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Re: ESA Canada Lauds Copyright Legislation But Others Not So

It isn't just here that I've run into it though. "American" seems to be a near curse-word in Canada.

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The NDP, the party who's members are generally against employing US-like laws and whatnot and one of who's members was mentioned in an earlier article referenced in this one, is all about heavy duty left wing stuff so pretty much anything the currently Republican-led US has is pretty much something they don't want. That's the basic, non in-depth, knee-jerk version of things. It's actually a bit more complicated than that, but I don't want to go into that. I should point out also however that the NDP and the Tories are total opposites on the political spectrum, much like american democrats and republicans, so they're going to bicker over stuff, its a guarantee.

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Our system doesn't really break down like that. It's more individualist. Not by nearly enough mind you, but still.

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It all boils down to "anti-copy code". In most other WIPO compliant countries, breaking encryption/copy protection to time or format-shift (or make a backup copy) is allowed. In the DMCA, it is not. In C-61, merely watching a DVD on a linux box will net you a $20,000 fine, because you used unauthorized tools to watch it.

The bill is one big fat lie to consumers. It promises a lot of consumer "rights", but then disables all of them in the fine print. The DVD case is the best example. You are allowed to rip a DVD to your iPod. But acquiring or using the software needed to do so, is illegal, because DVDs are encrypted with DeCSS (doesn't matter that DeCSS is trivial to break).

So now all the software on my computer that I'm using to transfer my DVD collection to a HTPC, makes me a hard-core criminal...

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Re: ESA Canada Lauds Copyright Legislation But Others Not So

That depends on your interpretation of the laws that are on the books. The wording of the DMCA allows for such an interpretation.

 
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Matthew Wilsonhttp://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/12/republicans-may-have-plan-to-save-internet-providers-from-utility-rules/ this is intreasting. congress may put net nutrality in to law to avoid title 2 classification12/19/2014 - 2:45pm
Matthew Wilsonhttp://www.polygon.com/2014/12/19/7421953/bullshit-cards-against-humanity-donated-250k-sunlight-foundation I have to admit I like the choice o organization. congrats to CAH.12/19/2014 - 1:51pm
E. Zachary KnightIf you are downloading a copy in order to bypass the DRM, then you are legally in the wrong. Ethically, if you bought the game, it doesn't matter where you download it in the future.12/19/2014 - 12:06pm
InfophileEZK: Certainly better that way, though not foolproof. Makes me think though: does it count as piracy if you download a game you already paid for, just not from the place you paid for it at? Ethically, I'd say no, but legally, probably yes.12/19/2014 - 11:20am
ZippyDSMleeAnd I still spent 200$ in the last month on steam/GOG stuff sales get me nearly every time ><12/19/2014 - 10:55am
ZippyDSMleeMaskedPixelante:And this is why I'm a one legged bandit.12/19/2014 - 10:51am
ZippyDSMleeE. Zachary Knight: I buy what I can as long as I can get cracks for it...then again it I could have gotton Lords of the Fallen for 30 with DLC I would have ><12/19/2014 - 10:50am
MaskedPixelantehttp://www.joystiq.com/2014/12/19/marvel-vs-capcom-origins-leaving-online-storefronts-soon/ Speaking of "last chance to buy", Marvel vs. Capcom Origins is getting delisted from all major storefronts. Behold the wonders of the all digital future.12/19/2014 - 9:59am
MaskedPixelanteSeriously, the so-called "Last Chance" sale was up to 80% off, while this one time only return sale goes for a flat 85% off with a 90% off upgrade if you buy the whole catalogue.12/19/2014 - 9:37am
E. Zachary KnightInfophile, Tha is why I buy only DRM-free games.12/19/2014 - 9:37am
MaskedPixelanteNordic is back on GOG for one weekend only. And at 85% off no less, which is kind of a slap in the face to people who paid more during the "NORDIC IS LEAVING FOREVER BUY NOW OR FOREVER HOLD YOUR PEACE" sale, but whatever...12/19/2014 - 9:28am
InfophileRe PHX's link: This is one of the reasons the digital revolution isn't all it's cracked up to be. There's also the flip side where Sony can block access to games you've bought if they ban your account for unrelated reasons. All power is theirs.12/19/2014 - 8:52am
MaskedPixelantehttp://uplay.ubi.com/#!/en-US/events/uplay-15-days You can win FREE GAMES FOR A YEAR! Unfortunately, they're Ubisoft games.12/18/2014 - 6:29pm
 

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