In UK, Game Critic Keith Vaz Reportedly Offered Knighthood

June 12, 2008 -

Reports in The Times and Guardian newspapers suggest that longtime video game violence critic Keith Vaz (left)was offered a knighthood by Prime Minister Gordon Brown in return for securing the votes of two Muslim MP's for an anti-terrorism measure.

Video game site MCV reports:

Vaz, MP for Leicester East , has ‘strongly denied’ the rumour. Mr. Brown’s proposals to extend the maximum time that police can hold terrorist suspects from 28 to 42 days were approved by MPs by a margin of 315 votes to 306.
 

 


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Re: In UK, Game Critic Keith Vaz Reportedly Offered Knighthood

Holy shit - I know that bribes were flying around left right and centre for this legislation, but this takes the piss. the lengths that some people will go to to save face.

Re: In UK, Game Critic Keith Vaz Reportedly Offered Knighthood

C'mon, guys, British recognitions aren't all that great -- Conrad Black left Canada to get a peerage and look what happened to him!

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Re: In UK, Game Critic Keith Vaz Reportedly Offered Knighthood

"I dub thee, Sir Douchenozzle."

Re: In UK, Game Critic Keith Vaz Reportedly Offered Knighthood

"Sir Douchenozzle, who had personally wet himself at the battle of Badon Hill, lost an armwrestling contest with Sir Thompson, attempted to slay the Imaginary Beast of Virtualis and managed not to frothe in the presence of the queen."

Re: In UK, Game Critic Keith Vaz Reportedly Offered Knighthood

Man... The UK will offer anyone knighthood nowadays :p

Re: In UK, Game Critic Keith Vaz Reportedly Offered Knighthood

Well we made Margret Thatcher a Baroness, so.. Yes.

Re: In UK, Game Critic Keith Vaz Reportedly Offered Knighthood

Well you've still got it better than the US. Here, we'll elect any drunken clown off the street for prez :P, as long as you keep repeating the G words.

God

Gays

Guns

Re: In UK, Game Critic Keith Vaz Reportedly Offered Knighthood

Ugh, this makes me feel ill...

The only person deserving of a knighthood over this issue is this guy:

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7450627.stm

NOT the person stamping all over Britons freedoms in the name of <massive-sarcasm>Anti-terrorism</massive-sarcasm>

I simply cannot understand it it... the UK survived decades of IRA bombings with the Brittish spirit pulling through each time... 9/11 happens (in a different continent!) and the government goes to pot >.<

Re: In UK, Game Critic Keith Vaz Reportedly Offered Knighthood

It's called 'control through fear' ;)

Remember, you can spend less time in jail for killing someone whilst drunk behind the wheel of your car than you can spend in jail for being *suspected* of terrorism....

Re: In UK, Game Critic Keith Vaz Reportedly Offered Knighthood

hmm, that guy on a horse with a lance trying to protect our queen would definitely be interesting... /jokery Seriously though, getting a knighthood for geting muslim MPs on their side? It seems a bit much, maybe a pat on the back for keeping his nose clean and being helpful to the government, but in all honesty, if making friends with the muslims is all it takes to recieve a knighthood then I would probably be the Queen's full time bodyguard right now, nearly all of my IRL friends are muslims, or people of some fancy ethnicity at least, do I have to go and ask Bash to reccomend me at the Nelson town hall or what?

Re: In UK, Game Critic Keith Vaz Reportedly Offered Knighthood

I don't pretend to know if there are any laws/regulations regarding knighthood in the UK, though I assume it is something that is taken pretty seriously.  That said, it sounds like Gordon Brown wants to have Vaz knighted for political reasons.  Wouldn't this be a misuse of the knighting ceremony?

Re: In UK, Game Critic Keith Vaz Reportedly Offered Knighthood

Yes, it would be. But then we also had the cash for honours scandal as well (for those unaware, the Labour Party 'apparently' offered peerages to people who donated substantial sums to them).

I've long believed that only the Queen should decide who gets a Knighthood - they are sworn to protect her throne and realm, after all.

Re: In UK, Game Critic Keith Vaz Reportedly Offered Knighthood

We've had Cash for Honours since the 1920's. And if the Queen were to decide on Knighthoods, fascists would be honoured, not despised by the small amount of decent society we still have.

Re: In UK, Game Critic Keith Vaz Reportedly Offered Knighthood

Sorry, that was me responding. Forgot to log in

 

Re: In UK, Game Critic Keith Vaz Reportedly Offered Knighthood

There are worse people out there with Knighthoods. Sir Robert Mugabe, for example.

Re: In UK, Game Critic Keith Vaz Reportedly Offered Knighthood

When did knighthood lose its specialty? Does this mean great people like Michael Caine are jokes now? I'd say its an insult.

Re: In UK, Game Critic Keith Vaz Reportedly Offered Knighthood

It's pluasable, the goverment has also been accused of buying the support of the 9 DUP members for this vote. Somehow the words "sir Keith" are going to stick in my throat....

Re: In UK, Game Critic Keith Vaz Reportedly Offered Knighthood

Vaz is an utter twonk - but then that seems the norm for MPs these days, more's the pity.

Re: In UK, Game Critic Keith Vaz Reportedly Offered Knighthood

For those of you who think this is just "mudslinging" perhaps you should read up on the Filkin inquiry with regards to Keith Vaz.  He was linked with attaining passports for two billionaire businessmen from India (the Hinduja brothers) and later after the enquiry suspended from the House of commons for 30 days for having "committed serious breaches of the Code of Conduct and a contempt of the House".

Furthermore, the 'cash for honours' investigation recently, whilst it didn't find conclusive evidence to charge anyone, implicated a number of high ranking Labour officials.  So lets not dismiss these allegations of corruption so lightly, yes?  Afterall, if critics are going to accuse the games industry of wrong doings and immoral acts, it is only right to show their hypocracy.

Re: In UK, Game Critic Keith Vaz Reportedly Offered Knighthood

1) He wasn't suspended because of the Hinduja brother thing . He was suspended after a second enquiry regarding a complaint about his behaviour during the afporementioned affair.

2) I would think that the Labour government wouldn't even dare attempt to same trick twice.

Re: In UK, Game Critic Keith Vaz Reportedly Offered Knighthood

Well, they're just handing out Knighthoods like candy now.  I am getting mine next week.  4.0 GPA for two consecutive semesters, woot woot.

Seriously though, aside from calling him Sir Vaz instead of Mr. Vaz, there really isn't any change in the fine and well educated blowhard from the other side of the pond.  Mayhaps they will offer an invitation to Knight Jackie Boy while they are at it.  He can be the Sir Francis Drake to Vaz's Charles Howard...

I just compared Thompson to Sir Francis Drake....I either need a drink or a shot to the head...drink wins.

 

 

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Re: In UK, Game Critic Keith Vaz Reportedly Offered Knighthood

For what it's worth - not all knighthoods actual entail getting to call yourself "Sir." He'd probably be inducted into the Order of the British Empire, the most populous order, and only the top two ranks of that order (out of five total) permit the recipient to use the title "Sir."

Re: In UK, Game Critic Keith Vaz Reportedly Offered Knighthood

True enough, though I would much prefer him to have the title 'Sir' than 'Lord'.  A peerage means he can continue to further his agenda in the House of Lords after his time as an MP ends.

Re: In UK, Game Critic Keith Vaz Reportedly Offered Knighthood

Oy, the Clown Regime starts more nonsense. Am I the only one who thinks it's ironic the UK is the setting for 1984?

 

Re: In UK, Game Critic Keith Vaz Reportedly Offered Knighthood

And where are you from?  The US?  Have a nice read of your Patriot Act...

We BOTH have problems with eroding of freedoms and liberty at the moment due to fundementalists using a single act of terrorism as an excuse.  I wonder how many of these people who are quick to shout out against what is happening actually bother to vote and do something about it...

Re: In UK, Game Critic Keith Vaz Reportedly Offered Knighthood

I am from the US, and I believe the "Patriot" Act is a load of bull, as are other measures the Bush regime has taken. However, just because Bush does something crazy that Brown also does doesn't excuse either of them.

That said, the UK has gone crazy with survellence measures much faster than the US. Cameras everywhere (that have been shown to not reduce crime at all), criminalizing not telling police their encryption keys (which in the US you have a 5th Amendment right against), and arresting a graduate student for downloading 'terrorist literature' for his project...while downloading it from a site run by the US government.

As for voting, yes, I do. Voted for Ron Paul in the primaries and slept well. Thankfully neither my congressman nor the senator up for reelection have supported such nonsense.

But like I said, they're both wrong, and one doing something bad doesn't excuse the other.

Re: In UK, Game Critic Keith Vaz Reportedly Offered Knighthood

"That said, the UK has gone crazy with survellence measures much faster than the US."

On my visit to the US, I had to go through heavilly armed guards and have my finger prints taken.  Furthermore, a lot of the tourist areas had stop and search and even metal detectors with security staff as a regular thing.  Also they were taking photographs of people on entry and then feigning it was so they could sell you a photo at the end when it is quite clearly a security measure.

Basically, I'm just saying don't believe that it is the case that the UK is worse than the US.  They are as bad as one another at the moment and just do things differently; we're stuck with 42 days of detention on any faux charges of "terrorism" whatever the police want to class that as and in Cuba you have Guantanamo Bay.

Re: In UK, Game Critic Keith Vaz Reportedly Offered Knighthood

If this gets him a Knighthood...

Re: In UK, Game Critic Keith Vaz Reportedly Offered Knighthood

I bet their next measure is to hold gamers who they think are "terrorist suspects". :/

Re: In UK, Game Critic Keith Vaz Reportedly Offered Knighthood

Merits of the measure he got support for aside, I do hope this isn't true. Getting support for a close vote does not seem to me to warrant a knighthood.

Re: In UK, Game Critic Keith Vaz Reportedly Offered Knighthood

This is more likely to be the papers stirring up rumours to make more of the controversial vote from yesterday.  I doubt there's much if any truth to it... if you were going to "Bribe" MPs on a vote I think it would be done more subtely.

Re: In UK, Game Critic Keith Vaz Reportedly Offered Knighthood

There's been too much talk from 'unnamed backbench rebels' regarding exactly what they would get if they supported the legislation for me to even consider that there were no deals. One was quoted as saying, (paraphrased)  'if I'd wanted two new bridges over the Thames, I would have got it'.

It's pathetic, really.

Re: In UK, Game Critic Keith Vaz Reportedly Offered Knighthood

Flame on guys, yet more mud slinging.

Re: In UK, Game Critic Keith Vaz Reportedly Offered Knighthood

Yes, I know that the above response is an obvious troll. (Obvious Troll is Obvious.)

However. What is with the sudden upswing in negativity directed toward GamePolitics, eh?

Ever since the ESA issued that letter critical of a single GP article, people have been chomping at the bit to claim shenanigans on GP and it's just plain silly. You're on the wrong site if you want to do so, you are using the wrong channel of communication if you're trying to get your message heard by Dennis or the ECA, and you are detracting from the topic and conversation in the post.

(Also, I'm not sure if some of you would know what real mudslinging was even if a person were to point out the definition in a dictionary.)

Re: In UK, Game Critic Keith Vaz Reportedly Offered Knighthood

I feel that Dennis himself has been mudslinging with his articles a bit for the past couple of weeks.  Nothing has really been going on, and he was been posting old news and random news on politicians.  Don't worry, I love GamePolitics to death, but that's my opinion.

Re: In UK, Game Critic Keith Vaz Reportedly Offered Knighthood

Umm, this isn't mudslinging. He's an anti-videogame legislator, and a knighthood would be a notable change in his status. Therefore it's something that it's worth GP reporting on.

Re: In UK, Game Critic Keith Vaz Reportedly Offered Knighthood

Heh, Gp also used a much nicer picture of him.

 
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