In Vietnam, Concerns Over Online Game Addiction
In Vietnam, Concerns Over Online Game Addiction
June 18, 2008
Parents and Vietnamese government officials are concerned about addiction to online games, according to a story in the Thanhnien News.
Describing an Internet cafe in Ho Chi Minh City, the report features interviews with players who are hanging out and neglecting their schoolwork:
They play online games day and night, and many ignore their studies. The phenomenon is also growing among college students, who can access the Internet in the dorms... without the supervision of their families.
The report also notes that the government's Ministry of Information and Communications controls online gaming accounts, automatically logging players off after five hours:
Most game players have figured out surprisingly simple ways to circumvent the system. The most common way is to simply reset the playing hours, meaning that after the player completes their regulated hours he can exit and then log in again. Minh, a game player in Hanoi, says he can play 24 hours a day, seven days a week thanks to tricks that can be found on game suppliers’ websites.
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Posted 02/09/10 at 11:27am
gellymatos: Then look at another picture then. Not all religious groups have the same beliefs on gay rights.
gellymatos: Then look at another picture then. Not all religious groups have the same beliefs on gay rights.
Posted 02/09/10 at 11:25am
Valdearg: Therefore, they will try to find any and all ways to slow the inevitable march of equality. Even admirable laws that protect gays from employer discrimination and violent hate fueled attacks are seen as affronts to their beliefs.
Valdearg: Therefore, they will try to find any and all ways to slow the inevitable march of equality. Even admirable laws that protect gays from employer discrimination and violent hate fueled attacks are seen as affronts to their beliefs.
Posted 02/09/10 at 11:24am
Valdearg: Again, you have to look at the bigger picture. Every political victory that the Gay rights movement scores marches them one step closer to being considered "equal" to everyone else. The religious right doesn't want that. It threatens their beliefs.
Valdearg: Again, you have to look at the bigger picture. Every political victory that the Gay rights movement scores marches them one step closer to being considered "equal" to everyone else. The religious right doesn't want that. It threatens their beliefs.
Posted 02/09/10 at 11:23am
gellymatos: ...paranoid, as lawyers, that the language of the law may do so. But like I said, paranoid.
gellymatos: ...paranoid, as lawyers, that the language of the law may do so. But like I said, paranoid.
Posted 02/09/10 at 11:22am
Valdearg: They see this as the Government encouraging the "sinful sexual behavior." They don't want gays to score ANY political victory, even one that protects them from violent homophobic psychopaths.
Valdearg: They see this as the Government encouraging the "sinful sexual behavior." They don't want gays to score ANY political victory, even one that protects them from violent homophobic psychopaths.
Posted 02/09/10 at 11:22am
gellymatos: Oh, hell yes. And nothing annoys me more than that fact. They stray and make real catholics look bad. And yes, they could be...
gellymatos: Oh, hell yes. And nothing annoys me more than that fact. They stray and make real catholics look bad. And yes, they could be...
Posted 02/09/10 at 11:21am
Valdearg: Also, you really think that people who are smart enough to practice law REALLY believe that this law will prevent them from expressing their religious beliefs? The fact is that these guys hate gays, and don't want them to be protected in any way.
Valdearg: Also, you really think that people who are smart enough to practice law REALLY believe that this law will prevent them from expressing their religious beliefs? The fact is that these guys hate gays, and don't want them to be protected in any way.
Posted 02/09/10 at 11:20am
Valdearg: The catholic teachings, perhaps, but certainly, there are PLENTY of Catholics who condone violence and hate. Just like these guys.
Valdearg: The catholic teachings, perhaps, but certainly, there are PLENTY of Catholics who condone violence and hate. Just like these guys.
Posted 02/09/10 at 11:19am
gellymatos: violence or hate against anyone.
gellymatos: violence or hate against anyone.
Posted 02/09/10 at 11:18am
gellymatos: Like I said, paranoia that the law could make it illegal to voice an opinion on gay marriage. And catholics don't condon...
gellymatos: Like I said, paranoia that the law could make it illegal to voice an opinion on gay marriage. And catholics don't condon...
Posted 02/09/10 at 11:15am
Valdearg: Can you find a different reason behind the lawsuit, other than the fact that they want to protect their "right" to perpetrate violence against homosexuals, based on their religious beliefs?
Valdearg: Can you find a different reason behind the lawsuit, other than the fact that they want to protect their "right" to perpetrate violence against homosexuals, based on their religious beliefs?
Posted 02/09/10 at 11:14am
Valdearg: The fact is that this Law Center, which specializes in the defense of Catholic Beliefs, kind of like a Catholic ACLU, I suppose, is challenging a law that PROTECTS homosexuals from violent acts motivated by hatred of gay people.
Valdearg: The fact is that this Law Center, which specializes in the defense of Catholic Beliefs, kind of like a Catholic ACLU, I suppose, is challenging a law that PROTECTS homosexuals from violent acts motivated by hatred of gay people.
Posted 02/09/10 at 11:13am
gellymatos: Again, sorry I jumped the gun like I did.
gellymatos: Again, sorry I jumped the gun like I did.
Posted 02/09/10 at 11:13am
Valdearg: @Gelly: It's a liberal blog. Its not designed to be balanced. Does that mean that everything there is completely false, and not worth investigating? Nope.
Valdearg: @Gelly: It's a liberal blog. Its not designed to be balanced. Does that mean that everything there is completely false, and not worth investigating? Nope.
Posted 02/09/10 at 11:12am
Valdearg: To be completely honest, I would argue that that assessment is more biased and farther from reality than the Daily Kos assessment.
Valdearg: To be completely honest, I would argue that that assessment is more biased and farther from reality than the Daily Kos assessment.
Posted 02/09/10 at 11:12am
gellymatos: I'm sure the story itself is true, it's just that the site seems to be biased. More so than Fox. And that takes effort.
gellymatos: I'm sure the story itself is true, it's just that the site seems to be biased. More so than Fox. And that takes effort.
Posted 02/09/10 at 11:11am
Valdearg: Would you rather I link straight to the horses mouth? Here's the story from the Law Center involved in the suit.
Valdearg: Would you rather I link straight to the horses mouth? Here's the story from the Law Center involved in the suit.
Posted 02/09/10 at 11:10am
Valdearg: @Gelly: I love how you jumped on the A_L train, and EVERYTHING that EVER comes from Daily Kos is questionable. Clearly, NONE of it could POSSIBLY merit a closer look.
Valdearg: @Gelly: I love how you jumped on the A_L train, and EVERYTHING that EVER comes from Daily Kos is questionable. Clearly, NONE of it could POSSIBLY merit a closer look.
Posted 02/09/10 at 11:09am
gellymatos: I'm sorry. I thought you were attacking the church due to your history of doing so. My bad.
gellymatos: I'm sorry. I thought you were attacking the church due to your history of doing so. My bad.
Posted 02/09/10 at 11:08am
gellymatos: ...that these laws will make it illegal to voice an opinion against gay marriage. Third, Your source is questionable. And by...
gellymatos: ...that these laws will make it illegal to voice an opinion against gay marriage. Third, Your source is questionable. And by...
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No mention of which game suppliers? Maybe some links to said exploits?
The more you restrict something the more someone usually wants it. Human nature last I checked.
That along with your kids are usually more educated than you are.
-Loudspeaker
"Volume helps to get a point across but sharp teeth are better."
"Ministry of Information and Communications controls online gaming accounts, automatically logging players off after five hours."
"Most game players have figured out surprisingly simple ways to circumvent the system."
I would say that by limiting the number of hours that a person can play, it is likely causing the exact opposite affect from what their government wants. It is possibly a link between the rush/thrill of 'breaking the rules' and associating that small endorphin rush with online games. Note that I'm not saying the games themselves are addicting, but that the players are getting a kick out of circumventing the orwellian laws and becoming "addicted" (such a strong word
, maybe 'inclined' is better?) to that. But that is just a theory.
My other guess would be that people want to play online longer because it is a form of escapism, and they want to enjoy their online lives as an relaxing break from their real-life duties.
Compulsion is a better word.
Isn't Vietnam a communist state
*checks*
yes it is.
I recall reading an artical on why the communist states are so concerned over MMO addiction, would love to find it again.
Yeah, I noticed their's not a lot of non-communist countries with this problem. All this proves is that people in Vietnam have escapist needs far beyond ours. As the veterans said, Nam sucks.
-If shit and bricks were candy and tits, we'd all be livin' large. For information on games and psychology, look up:
Jonathan Freedman (2002)
Block and Crain (2007)
Grand Theft Childhood, a book by Harvard Medical School researchers Lawrence Kutner and Cheryl Olson
Its not communism as much as culture. Ex. South Korea
Story: They lack DISCIPLINE!
JACK THOMPSON: You're an old spaz who can't seem to talk in the first person and you are about to be disbarred. Have you ever won a single goddamn case in your life? Please, just name ONE case!
-If shit and bricks were candy and tits, we'd all be livin' large. For information on games and psychology, look up:
Jonathan Freedman (2002)
Block and Crain (2007)
Grand Theft Childhood, a book by Harvard Medical School researchers Lawrence Kutner and Cheryl Olson
John Bruce has won plenty of cases. Just never any that involves the video game industry.
E. Zachary Knight
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We should all just ignore old Whacko - as soon as September rolls by he'll become increasingly desperate for attention, so just IP ban him or delete all his comments, let him know we don't give a shit about his failed life. Only way these freaks learn.
It doesn't really work, dude. We've tried it. It just makes him scream even LOUDER and think that we're afraid of him and stuff. It's a whole 'damned if you do, damned if you don't' scenario. So we might as well stick our hands into the lion's cage when the lion inside it doesn't have any teeth or claws.
And he's already been IP banned. He's proxy-hacking (apparent from the many backslashes in his posts) to post here, and even then, Dennis only allows comments as he sees fit, so it doesn't really matter.
Maybe Dennis could implement an MMO style "ignore" list. We could all put his name on the list. Jack would be happy because he'd see all of his vitriole, and we'd all be happy because we'd never see his acidic, hate-filled comments ever again. Best of both worlds!
I know, tons of work-arounds for him that he'd no-doubt try, but hey, I'm too distracted by my gaming addictions to come up with any better ideas
.
But it's FUN to counter him! XD
I agree, I look forward to seeing his posts -_^
So the troll strikes again...
These are COLLEGE ADULTS, they are not kids anymore. What they do with their life is their problem. If they want to slack off and play games, let them.
But if they play games all day then they can't work for the state.
Communism is only as strong as its inherently flawed principles.
I've always joked with my korean friend about the steretotype that asians play these games a lot more than anyone else (he brings it up more often than I do in case anyone's wondering), I can't WAIT to show him this.
I haven't heard Jack talk about addiction, just the violence in the games.
Jack, does it ever get old pretending you're right all the time
What's up with him putting a slash in you're?
Anyway, if they aren't living by themselves yet, it should be the parent's responsibility to keep their playtime in check instead of the gov. That's pretty much the gov. saying "You suck at parenting so we'll do it for you." If they're at or out of college, that's their choice to play for more than five hours. It's a good intention to stop people from just slacking off and playing games but when they try to FORCE the player off, that's taking it too far. It's their life, and sadly some choose to spend it foolishly, but that's their choice.
And besides, isn't it just going to make people want to break the "rules"?
Getting past the checks allows them to play 24 hours a day, seven days a week? How many people did this, and for how many weeks, before they collapsed from exhaustion/starvation/thirst/burst bladder?
Typical hack journalism: Anytime doesn't mean all the time.
And who hasn't pulled an all-nighter in the past? :)
Jack...wow. Thank you for reassuring me that stupidity still reigns supreme. Yeah, I thought you were about violence, way to go on changing your crusading platform to suit the case.
ANYWAY, yeah this story is funny, and who hasn’t pulled an all nighter? I think my record is like 28 hours strait...not a world record or anything but im proud of it ^_^ And seriously, if it is their desire to waste their lives then who is anyone to stop them? Im going to quote Yukko from xxxholic. She said that if someone chooses fortune or misfortune and that is their wish, then wouldn’t they be happy in their own right? What ever anyone does in life they will have to take the outcome, in this case they are ruining a chance for a degree and their hygiene and a successful career in the real world. That is their choice and if they want to do it, they will. You cant help the helpless, it takes them actually wanting to change for the change to happen. And the gov forcing them to stop? Yeah, good idea. All anyone can do is tell and show them what will happen if they continue to neglect their duties. And some people it actually takes them screwing around before they learn their lessons, the saying that the best lessons are the hardest to learn holds true. It took me being addicted to wow for three years and still working at Wal-Mart as a college drop out before i decided it was time to move on and not play 10-12 hours a day anymore and focus more on my school and career. Just part of growing up ^_^.
Oh yeah...Jack? September is so close but not close enough. Kthxbye.
I'm curious, what is it about far east culture that seems to give rise to this sort of thing? I mean, you never hear about somebody in africa or even here playing 24x7 - 7 days a week. Was it Korea that one dude played for like a week and they found him dead in the bathroom? Never having seen these places, I honestly don't really know, but I wonder why the owners of these internet cafes don't make a couple extra bucks by selling sandwiches or something. When games are in the news here, it's usually something to do with violence or sexual behavior, not playing them too long. Wonder what that says about the various countries...
As for Jack, I don't actually want to be disparaging today, but he's just being a douche because he hasn't had a headline of his own in a couple days. I mean, looking at that post...does he even have a point or is he just trying to piss people off? It wouldn't surprise me if he didn't read the article. In short Jack, yea, it does get old being wrong often, but I try to use that as incentive to learn from my mistakes.
Wow, JT is such a child. Video game addiction is no different than TV addiction, internet addiction, or porn addiction. They all are not "physical" addictions, as in doing them will automatically hook your body on them, yet they can be pshycological addictions, as in a weak minded person can easily become hooked on them for whatever reason, yet it's not necessarily the "fault" of the product, as such people simply have addictive personalities, and thus would be addicted to peanut butter given the circumstances. Again, Jack Thompson is an idiot, the gist of my post.
The companies producing online games need to take more responsibility for their gamers and warn of addiction and health risks. Sadly it’s down to the colleges to remind students to do their studies.