BREAKING - NY Senate Passes Video Game Bill 61-1

June 24, 2008 -

Moments ago the New York State Senate voted 61-1 to approve a bill proposed by Sen. Andrew Lanza, a Republican from Staten Island.

Sen. Lanza is seen arguing for passage in the photo at left. Sen. Thomas Duane (D) of New York City cast the lone dissenting vote.

The video game bill mirrors that passed yesterday by the State Assembly, a Lanza staffer told GamePolitics that the measure will now go to Gov. David Paterson for consideration. If Paterson signs the bill, it will become law in 2010.

Prior to that, however, the video game industry is likely to sue, arguing that the measure is unconstitutional.

UPDATE: We've got an mp3 of Sen. Lanza's final three minutes of argument in favor of the bill. Here's an excerpt:

If you look closely at this bill, [concerns expressed by Sen. Duane] are not valid. Let's start with speech. There's all kinds of speech. If we take an old-fashioned pinball machine and plunked it down here in the middle of the chamber, no one would call it speech. But when we put that up on a video screen, it does become speech and I acknowledge that. And it deserves protection under the Constitution... There is some confusion with respect to what this bill actually accomplishes... The word prohibition was talked about. I want to be clear. This bill does not prohibit the sale of any video to anyone...

 

This simply says that every video game sold in the state of New York simply should have a rating consistent with what the ESRB does presently in a voluntary way... it does work. But the problem with "voluntary" is that tomorrow someone can change their mind. Someone could decide tomorrow to no longer place ratings on these games. So this is not about prohibiting the sale, this is simply about providing information to parents...

 

Last year's version... that included a provision that would have made it an E-felony to sell these games, we all thought it was wrong. And we took that out. We worked with the [video game] industry. We worked with the Assembly and we do have an agreement here on a piece of legislation that I think will go a long way in allowing parents to make good decisions in regard to what is and what isn't appropriate for their chidlren...

 


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Re: BREAKING - NY Senate Passes Video Game Bill 61-1

So... is the Governer a smart guy or will he sign this despite the fact it will be struck down? I'm not that bothered as I'm in Scotland but it is a bit annoying as it's always bad to see governments knowingly waste money that'd be better off being spent elsewhere, like gun control or education.

Re: BREAKING - NY Senate Passes Video Game Bill 61-1

Here it goes...

Re: BREAKING - NY Senate Passes Video Game Bill 61-1

hey mr. government man, thanks for taking it one step further to help parents to NOT have to raise their children.

Re: BREAKING - NY Senate Passes Video Game Bill 61-1

I'm not worried. This will never get get to/past congress.

Re: BREAKING - NY Senate Passes Video Game Bill 61-1

Uh...read the article. It just did, and is on it's way to the governor.

 

Re: BREAKING - NY Senate Passes Video Game Bill 61-1

this bill isn't in front of congress, theres a differant similar one there.

this one is a NY only thing

Re: BREAKING - NY Senate Passes Video Game Bill 61-1

Wait, isn't the new governor legally blind?

You people are screwed, unless it's in brail, someone with an agenda (read: Jack Thompson) will tell him it's something that will give... I dunno, tax breaks to puppy shelters.

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Re: BREAKING - NY Senate Passes Video Game Bill 61-1

Do we know anything about this bill?  If it declares games to be constitutionally awesome, I could get behind it. .  Jokes aside, I wouldn't think twice about it. If it has an teeth at all to it, I would expect the big 3 to have lawyers dogpiling that thing like frat boys on a drunk cheerleader.

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Re: BREAKING - NY Senate Passes Video Game Bill 61-1

Wow....an actual reason to move from NY to NJ.

Re: BREAKING - NY Senate Passes Video Game Bill 61-1

like i said before, the whoas of this state come from that god forsaken city 9 out of 10 times.

Re: BREAKING - NY Senate Passes Video Game Bill 61-1

Those poor Taxpayers....

Re: BREAKING - NY Senate Passes Video Game Bill 61-1

If they took all that wasted money and put it into the Mets, they would win the World Series every year

Re: BREAKING - NY Senate Passes Video Game Bill 61-1

Your damn straigt us poor tax payers!

 

I feel at 19 that I could be a smarter senator than the idiots who voted yes on this bill.  T_T

Re: BREAKING - NY Senate Passes Video Game Bill 61-1

Then again won't it sort of be a slap to their ego when they realize there are already parental controls on the newer consoles and that the ratings are on the box? 

Re: BREAKING - NY Senate Passes Video Game Bill 61-1

Sure, there's parental controls now. But tomorrow someone could take them off.  Shame on this current session of the NY senate and shame on the voters of New York for who voted these idiots into office.  I've stopped sympathizing with the "poor taxpayers" in the states and cities whose elected idiots pass these laws. The "taxpayers" either voted for them, or did nothing (or at least not enough) and let them be elected.

Re: BREAKING - NY Senate Passes Video Game Bill 61-1

Then again won't it sort of be a slap to their ego when they realize there are already parental controls on the newer consoles and that the ratings are on the box?

Not at all.  This is politics, where such critters frequently request stuff that is already there, save it for a later "I care about XYZ" re-election ad campaigns and basically pat themselves on the back for doing nothing.

Requesting stuff that has already been done and implemented is a great way to claim credit for the work of other companies, and it never really matters how long such features have existed before they stuck their nose into such business.

Re: BREAKING - NY Senate Passes Video Game Bill 61-1

No wonder JT had political delusions! This sounds right up his alley. :P

 

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Re: BREAKING - NY Senate Passes Video Game Bill 61-1

Be careful, he's probably stalking these comments right now. I hear he doesn't get a lot of work these days..

Re: BREAKING - NY Senate Passes Video Game Bill 61-1

Well, the biggest danger here is to the older games market. Stuff like the older Nintendos and Ataris etc did not go through the ESRB for rating. Now, there's no question those games are harmless, but under this law, they would be illegal to sell, because they don't have the ESRB rating marked on them.

In essence, even if the law were constitutional, it achieves absolutely nothing other than putting out of businesses the very shops that sell games that don't contain highly graphical violence etc, and, as you say, the other two laws are moot because gaming systems already do this voluntarily.

That, however, is pretty irrelevant, since the law is not constitutional and will therefore cost the Taxpayer a fortune when the law is struck down.

So not only is it a law that would achieve nothing and cost a fortune if it is struck down, it's also a law that will achieve nothing and cost a fortune if it is passed. Either way, it's the 'little people' that are the ones that lose out in the end.

Re: BREAKING - NY Senate Passes Video Game Bill 61-1

*bangs head against desk*

Someone get me off of this island of long and into New Hampshire.  I'm officially fed up with New York.

If its not over development of the island its pointless laws like this getting passed. 

Re: BREAKING - NY Senate Passes Video Game Bill 61-1

Okay, who was the "1"?

 

Andrew Eisen

Re: BREAKING - NY Senate Passes Video Game Bill 61-1

Didn't read later posts. Deleted.

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Re: BREAKING - NY Senate Passes Video Game Bill 61-1

It was Senator Duane.

I wonder what his reasons were.

 

Andrew Eisen

Re: BREAKING - NY Senate Passes Video Game Bill 61-1

maybe Senator Duane was the only one who knew the MPAA was also voluntary

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Re: BREAKING - NY Senate Passes Video Game Bill 61-1

Thats what i want to know. Was it some smart politician? (If there is such a thing) Or was it someone that just didnt care or even understand what they were voting on?

Re: BREAKING - NY Senate Passes Video Game Bill 61-1

Probably just someone who wasn't in attendance.

Anyways, I think we know the drill by now. ESA will sue, state gets screwed in court and the taxpayers are out millions of dollars thanks to the morons in government. Thanks, guys.

 EDIT: I at least hope they got rid of that draconian penalty for violations, putting it as a class E felony (the same as statutory rape).

 

 
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