Submitted by Fedùle, sadly locked outta account - June 25, 2008 at 4:53 am -0500
I will be marginally happier when it becomes widely understood that "Levels" is no longer used in games (ie, when people actually understand the means by which they are aiming to reach people). I mean, seriously, did they really have to use "Level Complete" in order to get across that they are representing a videogame? Was it even necessary to make it clear that this is a game? Was the idea of a guy smoking and then immediately dying not enough?
On a happier note, I always said that they need to make an ad where a guy smokes a cigarette and then immediately dies.
Submitted by ZippyDSM - June 25, 2008 at 5:08 pm -0500
levels are used in games, FPSs hae fallen from hub level deisng and well built layouts to generic "next level" spewage, also msot shooters use simple level schemes, also soem lite RPG and reg RPG games use levels as means of leveling up.
Submitted by Anonymous - June 29, 2008 at 3:18 pm -0500
You're right that there's levels in games, and particularly FPS, but his point is still pretty valid. Look at Half Life 2 or Halo. They both have clearly defined leves, but they used titles to express the change in objective or plot. The last good FPS that had clearly defined level-end text that I can think of was Painkiller.
Submitted by Digg man - June 29, 2008 at 2:52 pm -0500
Dude its an advert lol, do you think the creators even care if 'Levels' aren't used anymore. The reason it was used I am guessing is because its an easily recognised as an ending. Oh hey look, an ending, perfect time to squeeze a cigarette in there. In my opinion it creates the atmosphere of calmness where the viewer can be sure that he won't be interrupted while having his cigarette which also emphasises the shock of the player dying once he has smoked it. Why am I deconstructing an advert for you...?
Submitted by Are you serious - July 2, 2008 at 6:50 pm -0500
Wow lets look at some of the top selling games.
Halo 3---9 levels (not including the tutorial)
World Of Warcraft-70 level(I don't know if these are the levels your are talking about, but hey, they are here)
I'm not doing more research but Resistance: Fall of Man, Assasin’s Creed, Super Mario Galaxy, Super Smash Bros. Brawl ALL have levels.
and all people don't play videogames so some might not know that the level was complete. Its not really a big deal and I cannot see why anyone would care about it.
Submitted by GRIZZAM PRIME - June 25, 2008 at 4:57 am -0500
Lame.
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Submitted by Stueymon - June 25, 2008 at 9:35 am -0500
There is bioshock? but that lowers your health but increases Eve (the pyschic...yadda yadda)
chronicles of riddick: escape from butcher bay? that had cigarettes in it, i cant remember if you smoked them but they were part of the currency there (hey it's set in prison..)
Submitted by Kincyr - June 25, 2008 at 11:57 am -0500
I can.
System Shock 2: The only thing cigarettes did was reduce your health by 1, no benefits. There was also alcohol, which restored 2 health at the cost of several Psi points (not worth it IMO). Juice and chips restored 1 HP with no adverse effects.
Submitted by Sigma 7 - June 25, 2008 at 1:03 pm -0500
Why restrict to cigarettes? Deus Ex not only had cigarettes (which simply damaged the user), they also included chocolate (made from 100% recycled material - don't ask), alcohol (which blurs vision), and Zyme (which blurs vision and can be sold to a drug dealer for credits. You can also give some to a homeless person.)
Submitted by NovaBlack. - June 25, 2008 at 6:30 am -0500
Im sorry but smoking .... and video games...
WHY? what have the two got in common? i have ABSOLUTELY no idea why ther are linked. besides isnt this sending out a stupid message? if cigarette illnesses were the same in RL as in a video game then it wouldnt matter because you an just retry. Not so in RL. so.. their message is... dont smoke... OK.. why not put up a screen saying 'dont smoke' would have been a lot quicker and easier.
All this is gonna generate is ridicule and hide the real message. LEVEL COMPLETE *FLASH* *FLASH* *FLASH* , god do they know nothing about video games atall?
Submitted by Dedre - June 25, 2008 at 6:53 am -0500
Wow, although the commercial kinda looked cool, the message was still pretty silly. I'm an avid smoker and all for smoker's rights and all that, but I just couldn't suppress a mild giggle.
Submitted by some guy - June 25, 2008 at 7:27 am -0500
My biggest issue with it is that it's a ridiculous misrepresentation of the dangers of smoking. It doesn't teach people anything, it's just fearmongering at it's most basic.
Seriously, when was the last time you saw someone light up a cigarette and immediately keel over dead after the first puff? As someone at the upper end of their chief demographic, I find it a little insulting to my intelligence.
Submitted by GameDevMich - June 25, 2008 at 7:55 am -0500
For an anti-smoking ad, they really put a lot of quality into the video. Say what you want about the message, but how many commercials have you seen that use a "video game" which makes you cringe 10 times more?
Hell, even though the Coke commercial parodying GTA look fantastic, everyone knew it was pre-rendered. At least a decent portion of this video makes it look like a real game.
Another interesting point, despite one very outspoken and outrageous citizen, for the most part Florida is a very game friendly state. Too bad I'm leaving it soon :-/
Submitted by zevorick - June 25, 2008 at 8:28 am -0500
Yay inneffective add campaigns.
Kids aren't going to see any immediate short term effects of smoking (other than the coughing and being laughed at the first time), which means they will most likely reject the notion that cigs are bad for you.
They'd be better off stating statistics on the % of teenagers that are smoking and the % of those who have favorable opinions of teen smoking (both of which are fairly low). Teenagers are like sheep in this aspect during their respective stages in cognitive development, and it's high time we start using that ;)
Submitted by deathVANQUISHED - June 25, 2008 at 10:13 am -0500
For the first week that this commercial was run, it also said, "...which is more people than guns," or something to that effect. Now the commercial just says that smoking kills 400,000 people a year. I can see why they changed it, the commercial was practically advocating gun violence.
Submitted by SilverMelee - June 25, 2008 at 10:30 am -0500
Now come on, guys... is all this hate really needed? At least they used a more modern video game (unlike a certain senator's Facebook game...) to reference.
But still, as cool as the commercial was (well, I thought it was), the message did seem a little dubious. Run 'n' gun, run 'n' gun, then smoke a cigarette and drop dead? It could've used the game motif and be capable of getting a wholesome message across fully, although this commercial didn't quite cut it. Still, I thought it was moderately cool.
Submitted by Anonymous - June 25, 2008 at 10:56 am -0500
I can understand the importance of educating kids on smoking, espescially since I just lost my grandfather to lung cancer, but I also think that having him drop dead after one puff was a little over the top. One of the main issues that people keep forgetting in these PSAs is that when you modify or extract the accumulation of time, the message becomes harder to get across. I really think that they still would've made their point if they just had him cough over... and maybe get whacked by the robot.
Submitted by Chadachada - June 25, 2008 at 11:24 am -0500
I thought it was a decent commercial. I'd have been a little upset to have watched that, because I almost thought it was based off a real game or something.
Submitted by Fallenone - June 25, 2008 at 3:00 pm -0500
Do we really need this? Wasn't MGS4 a anti-smoking ad? I mean, I'm pretty sure in those hour and a half cut scenes, Snake was gagging on smokes for about 30 minutes per cutscene, right? Not to mention in the actual game (all of them from MGS1-MGS4) smoking hurt your health. In this game it slightly boosts your psyche, but lowers your health. That is the perfect ad in my opinion, and it is not intrusive or silly. This ad is silly. You don't instantly die when you smoke.
People are actually more likely to drink and drive and die in a car wreck (which could instantly effect other people) before they kill themselves or others with smoking. I don't smoke, but I'm getting sick of these anti-smoking ads everywhere. I think people can choose if they want to do it or not, and others shouldn't look down on them. It's getting really silly.
Submitted by Anonymous - June 25, 2008 at 4:18 pm -0500
While I agree with all the above comments at least it's less annoying that those "Truth" ads. Seriously those ads almost make me want to smoke out of spite.
Submitted by DJ Sessum - June 25, 2008 at 10:04 pm -0500
I really don't get why we need these ads like this. So here's a scenario as to when these ads might work: A teen looks around in the world and discovers a new thing called "smoking". He says, "Gee, I wanna smoke!" But then, just as he's about to buy some cigs at a store, he sees one of these ads and says to himself, "Smoking KILLS you? OMG, I didn't know!"
Seriously. I don't smoke, I don't intend to, but I know we don't need these. Most parents ar responisble enough to tell kids not to smoke, most schools have programs that tell kids to not smoke, drink, or use other drugs, and most people who do smoke already know that it's bad for them. So, for those fools who already don't know: Smoking kills.
Submitted by Anonymous - June 25, 2008 at 10:15 pm -0500
Those who are complaining about how the game isn't realistic or that it says level complete at the end are acting childish. How well do you expect a tobacco free campain to do a video game? I think the fact that they did graphics that good is very cool especially since they probably don't get that much money to do this stuff.
Plus it was hilarious when he suddenly died after smoking XD
Submitted by Anonymous - June 26, 2008 at 9:07 am -0500
gah, that wasnt dropping dead after the first puff, he was distracted by the ciggarette and got shot in the head by a robot dude was I the only one to realize that?
Submitted by Anon - June 26, 2008 at 9:36 am -0500
I think most anti-smoking campaigns are pretty retarded because people who smoke know it is going to kill them and don't care or just don't want to give it up. I had a ex-gf who smoked and of course she knew it was bad for her and all that jazz but she would always tell me its just too hard to quit, or that its relaxing.
Submitted by JustChris - June 26, 2008 at 2:23 pm -0500
I think these commercials don't work because people pick up smoking for their own personal reasons. The only things that can change them are their own friends/peers. An outside source with a very broad anti-smoking message isn't going to hit someone hard.
Submitted by Ironside138 - June 27, 2008 at 4:12 am -0500
Great another strike from health Nazis. I'm tired of this stuff, we all know that smoking is bad you, your breathing in smoke what isnt unhealthy about that. In this day and age every one knows it and yet people still do it, why its a choice. Peoples aurgument is that second hand smoke kills (no proof of that except in "studies" from non-reputable institutions). and that it causes cancer that maybr true but now adays everything causes cancer. An demonize anyone who does smoke as sickly evil people. I smoke and i'm not dead for just one. I don't cough all the time i don't have cancer, I don't smoke around kids
Submitted by Anonymous - June 29, 2008 at 1:02 pm -0500
That is not an anti-smoking ad.
IT IS A PRO-SMOKING AD, CLOAKED AS AN ANTI-SMOKING AD.
Any ad that shows actual smoking makes smokers want to have a smoke... one that is presented from the position of the smoker, actually shows the cig come up to the mouth, is clearly a cloaked pro-smoking ad.
Submitted by Anonymous - June 29, 2008 at 1:59 pm -0500
IMO most gamers don't tend to be smokers, they're in completely different circles. I've spend plenty of time in both circles... what I think is going on here is that the advertisers are assuming that all young people play games which is not true. Someone mentioned targetting the causes like stress and social status... most gamers don't really care about their social appearence (in some cases its based on their frag ratio), and most actually dispise those that are caught up in it, so I really see this ad missing the point.
Submitted by Anonymous - June 29, 2008 at 8:26 pm -0500
You hang out in circles of smokers?
And no they don't assume that ALL young people play games thats just plain retarded but gaming is quite popular among today's youth its called trying to reach a demographic regardless of how poorly research on said demographic is conducted.
And furthermore to say that gamers usually don't smoke is also pretty poor reasoning.
Infact the next part of what your saying is pretty stupid too but its obvious you have an entirely too black and white view of things. I mean..social appearance as frag ratios? Really? Have you never heard of people who game casually (i'd say about a good 60%+ of today's gaming community)? But at the bottom line this ad is completely awful and if it inspires anything but laughter I would be surprised. I see it about every hour on TV down here in Florida and thought it was the funniest thing ever.
Submitted by Anonymous - June 29, 2008 at 2:07 pm -0500
when the FUCK are you retards going to realise that the tobacco companies PAY for these "anti smoking" campaigns.... theres a reason theyre not just showing sick pictures of people dieing, nasty lungs, and people with half a face... its because that would actually WORK! i dont know a fucking person whose seen a "truth" commercial and said "hey, gee i never dun knowed that! imma just now quite me smoking huh gee" no, and every single one of u FUCKS who supports these adds and thinks they work are just as responsible for the deaths of tobacco users as the companies theirself. you are not helping, you are adding.
I know the team that put this together. Jason, Rob, and the whole group at Zimmerman are awesome and worked their asses off to bring this together. As to people saying that the spot was funded by a tobacco company- in the interview linked above, they say that the State of Florida paid for it- not a tobacco company.
See- you're just jealous that they came up with a great ad *and* made you want to buy the fake game. It's ok. They're just cool that way.
Submitted by Anonymous - June 30, 2008 at 12:42 am -0500
Who gave the State Of Florida the funding for it? Who is on the committee in charge of this?
If they aren't being influenced by a tobacco interest, then they are completely clueless on how to convince people to not smoke. This is a horrible video, with you forced into the first person perspective of lighting up, sucking it down, and blowing it out.
You can have all the fancy graphics in the world, but if you make people want to smoke, when you claim to be doing the opposite, you are either lying or incompetent.
Submitted by Anonymous - July 7, 2008 at 10:16 pm -0500
Lol did any other smoker notice hes smoking a Marlborough Light? lol
Worst part is, I smoke and pretty much all my gamer friends smoke and there is no better time to light a fag than when youve just pwned a level.
Also, if the level was complete, why was there a robot?
And I really cant see this working, because it has been made so unrealistic by taking one puff and dying. Its a nice idea but personally i think it comes across as a typically anti smoking ad, will just make me and most people laugh.
I cannot think of anyone whoes mind would be changed about smoking by this, im sure what children are learning in school is far more likely.
Personally I am getting a little tired of smoking now being Public Enemy No 1, I live in the UK and now if we go out, so many people have to spend the majority of the night outdoors, this doesnt put me off, all that happens is everyone goes outside. I dont think smoking should be allowed in places that serve food, or around children, but in a nightclub or pub?
Submitted by Anonymous - July 23, 2008 at 5:07 am -0500
I can't believe they had the character dying after one puff. That is totally unrealistic. Good thing these futuristic video games take place in reality.
Perhaps you folk don't get the message. Smoking kills. If you smoke, you made a pretty idiotic decision.
Does it matter if the government didn't want to pay the extra money for a longer timeslot, better research, and a longer animation? No. The point is carried across just fine.
It's only you folk who get defensive of your destructive habits who take away the wrong message or fail to understand it. It's this thing we call symbolism. That first smoke (and the following smokes from addiction) will most likely be a major contributor to your death. Even an otherwise perfectly healthy individual cannot resist the effects of smoking on the body.
But in the end, we all die. Enjoy your shortened lifespan.
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I will be marginally happier when it becomes widely understood that "Levels" is no longer used in games (ie, when people actually understand the means by which they are aiming to reach people). I mean, seriously, did they really have to use "Level Complete" in order to get across that they are representing a videogame? Was it even necessary to make it clear that this is a game? Was the idea of a guy smoking and then immediately dying not enough?
On a happier note, I always said that they need to make an ad where a guy smokes a cigarette and then immediately dies.
levels are used in games, FPSs hae fallen from hub level deisng and well built layouts to generic "next level" spewage, also msot shooters use simple level schemes, also soem lite RPG and reg RPG games use levels as means of leveling up.
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You're right that there's levels in games, and particularly FPS, but his point is still pretty valid. Look at Half Life 2 or Halo. They both have clearly defined leves, but they used titles to express the change in objective or plot. The last good FPS that had clearly defined level-end text that I can think of was Painkiller.
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Dude its an advert lol, do you think the creators even care if 'Levels' aren't used anymore. The reason it was used I am guessing is because its an easily recognised as an ending. Oh hey look, an ending, perfect time to squeeze a cigarette in there. In my opinion it creates the atmosphere of calmness where the viewer can be sure that he won't be interrupted while having his cigarette which also emphasises the shock of the player dying once he has smoked it. Why am I deconstructing an advert for you...?
good analysis, i am glad you were able to point out what should be pretty clear to others (not making fun of you)
Wow lets look at some of the top selling games.
Halo 3---9 levels (not including the tutorial)
World Of Warcraft-70 level(I don't know if these are the levels your are talking about, but hey, they are here)
I'm not doing more research but Resistance: Fall of Man, Assasin’s Creed, Super Mario Galaxy, Super Smash Bros. Brawl ALL have levels.
and all people don't play videogames so some might not know that the level was complete. Its not really a big deal and I cannot see why anyone would care about it.
great video btw
Lame.
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ugh...imagine if that was MGS4...(any other games with a smoking element? can't think of any)
You ever tried equipping the Cigs in MGS4? What happened in the video is almost literally what happens to Snake, just a little bit faster.
On another note, the game Mafia which I consider to be perhaps the greatest ever made featured smoking in cutscenes quite heavily.
There is bioshock? but that lowers your health but increases Eve (the pyschic...yadda yadda)
chronicles of riddick: escape from butcher bay? that had cigarettes in it, i cant remember if you smoked them but they were part of the currency there (hey it's set in prison..)
cant think of any more
I can.
System Shock 2: The only thing cigarettes did was reduce your health by 1, no benefits. There was also alcohol, which restored 2 health at the cost of several Psi points (not worth it IMO). Juice and chips restored 1 HP with no adverse effects.
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Ever played the nes Golgo 13 games?
often you find packs of cigarettes and when you use them, it gives back all your health. ironic huh?
Why restrict to cigarettes? Deus Ex not only had cigarettes (which simply damaged the user), they also included chocolate (made from 100% recycled material - don't ask), alcohol (which blurs vision), and Zyme (which blurs vision and can be sold to a drug dealer for credits. You can also give some to a homeless person.)
Actualy in Deus Ex the cigs calm you so when using a scoped weapon the movement of the gun is lessened...
Im sorry but smoking .... and video games...
WHY? what have the two got in common? i have ABSOLUTELY no idea why ther are linked. besides isnt this sending out a stupid message? if cigarette illnesses were the same in RL as in a video game then it wouldnt matter because you an just retry. Not so in RL. so.. their message is... dont smoke... OK.. why not put up a screen saying 'dont smoke' would have been a lot quicker and easier.
All this is gonna generate is ridicule and hide the real message. LEVEL COMPLETE *FLASH* *FLASH* *FLASH* , god do they know nothing about video games atall?
"WHY? what have the two got in common?"
A mature teenage to young adult demographic?
I also think that they were trying to reach out to kids by using something that would appeal to them.
congratulations, you just pointed out what monte said.
I'm sorry but if premature babies dancing in a hoedown like manner won't get people to stop smoking then I'm sorry neither will this parody of Halo.
I sort of get the logic that kids might go "Oh no smokingz killed Master Chief!" but I doubt it will do anything.
it dousnt even look like halo to me... but then again i missed the third game.
Wow um... That's pretty random.
Wow, although the commercial kinda looked cool, the message was still pretty silly. I'm an avid smoker and all for smoker's rights and all that, but I just couldn't suppress a mild giggle.
OMG that game looks friggin' sah-WEET! Great GFX, tight gameplay and that gun looks really cool. Where can I buy it?
Oh, it's a an anti-smoking ad? Um.. can I still buy that game?
My biggest issue with it is that it's a ridiculous misrepresentation of the dangers of smoking. It doesn't teach people anything, it's just fearmongering at it's most basic.
Seriously, when was the last time you saw someone light up a cigarette and immediately keel over dead after the first puff? As someone at the upper end of their chief demographic, I find it a little insulting to my intelligence.
For an anti-smoking ad, they really put a lot of quality into the video. Say what you want about the message, but how many commercials have you seen that use a "video game" which makes you cringe 10 times more?
Hell, even though the Coke commercial parodying GTA look fantastic, everyone knew it was pre-rendered. At least a decent portion of this video makes it look like a real game.
Another interesting point, despite one very outspoken and outrageous citizen, for the most part Florida is a very game friendly state. Too bad I'm leaving it soon :-/
Btw, possible lawsuit?
"Btw, possible lawsuit?"
I wish. This was so bad I hope Bungie feels offended. Ugh, that audio sounded horrible.
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Even the games industry sucks at making good adverts featuring gaming:
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/233255.html
Yay inneffective add campaigns.
Kids aren't going to see any immediate short term effects of smoking (other than the coughing and being laughed at the first time), which means they will most likely reject the notion that cigs are bad for you.
They'd be better off stating statistics on the % of teenagers that are smoking and the % of those who have favorable opinions of teen smoking (both of which are fairly low). Teenagers are like sheep in this aspect during their respective stages in cognitive development, and it's high time we start using that ;)
I wish it took one rocket just to take down a enemy ship...
For the first week that this commercial was run, it also said, "...which is more people than guns," or something to that effect. Now the commercial just says that smoking kills 400,000 people a year. I can see why they changed it, the commercial was practically advocating gun violence.
Now come on, guys... is all this hate really needed? At least they used a more modern video game (unlike a certain senator's Facebook game...) to reference.
But still, as cool as the commercial was (well, I thought it was), the message did seem a little dubious. Run 'n' gun, run 'n' gun, then smoke a cigarette and drop dead? It could've used the game motif and be capable of getting a wholesome message across fully, although this commercial didn't quite cut it. Still, I thought it was moderately cool.
I can understand the importance of educating kids on smoking, espescially since I just lost my grandfather to lung cancer, but I also think that having him drop dead after one puff was a little over the top. One of the main issues that people keep forgetting in these PSAs is that when you modify or extract the accumulation of time, the message becomes harder to get across. I really think that they still would've made their point if they just had him cough over... and maybe get whacked by the robot.
This should have had Big Boss and his cigar, that would be infinitely more awesome.
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I thought it was a decent commercial. I'd have been a little upset to have watched that, because I almost thought it was based off a real game or something.
Do we really need this? Wasn't MGS4 a anti-smoking ad? I mean, I'm pretty sure in those hour and a half cut scenes, Snake was gagging on smokes for about 30 minutes per cutscene, right? Not to mention in the actual game (all of them from MGS1-MGS4) smoking hurt your health. In this game it slightly boosts your psyche, but lowers your health. That is the perfect ad in my opinion, and it is not intrusive or silly. This ad is silly. You don't instantly die when you smoke.
People are actually more likely to drink and drive and die in a car wreck (which could instantly effect other people) before they kill themselves or others with smoking. I don't smoke, but I'm getting sick of these anti-smoking ads everywhere. I think people can choose if they want to do it or not, and others shouldn't look down on them. It's getting really silly.
While I agree with all the above comments at least it's less annoying that those "Truth" ads. Seriously those ads almost make me want to smoke out of spite.
I lvoe the anti smoking PC zero thought nazis all hail our rights and freedoms!!
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Well it wasn't all that bad. Except for the fact that it was another stupid, anti-smoking commercial; it was otherwise cool.
I really don't get why we need these ads like this. So here's a scenario as to when these ads might work: A teen looks around in the world and discovers a new thing called "smoking". He says, "Gee, I wanna smoke!" But then, just as he's about to buy some cigs at a store, he sees one of these ads and says to himself, "Smoking KILLS you? OMG, I didn't know!"
Seriously. I don't smoke, I don't intend to, but I know we don't need these. Most parents ar responisble enough to tell kids not to smoke, most schools have programs that tell kids to not smoke, drink, or use other drugs, and most people who do smoke already know that it's bad for them. So, for those fools who already don't know: Smoking kills.
Those who are complaining about how the game isn't realistic or that it says level complete at the end are acting childish. How well do you expect a tobacco free campain to do a video game? I think the fact that they did graphics that good is very cool especially since they probably don't get that much money to do this stuff.
Plus it was hilarious when he suddenly died after smoking XD
This was a minor victory. People in tv-land now have discovered that graphics have moved beyond the 8-bit era.
Now they just need to figure out that audio and level design have progressed as well.
that was honestly a better commercial than "bad happy art" truth ones
That said, it completely failed to deliver its message. I just found it funny
gah, that wasnt dropping dead after the first puff, he was distracted by the ciggarette and got shot in the head by a robot dude was I the only one to realize that?
I think most anti-smoking campaigns are pretty retarded because people who smoke know it is going to kill them and don't care or just don't want to give it up. I had a ex-gf who smoked and of course she knew it was bad for her and all that jazz but she would always tell me its just too hard to quit, or that its relaxing.
I think these commercials don't work because people pick up smoking for their own personal reasons. The only things that can change them are their own friends/peers. An outside source with a very broad anti-smoking message isn't going to hit someone hard.
Great another strike from health Nazis. I'm tired of this stuff, we all know that smoking is bad you, your breathing in smoke what isnt unhealthy about that. In this day and age every one knows it and yet people still do it, why its a choice. Peoples aurgument is that second hand smoke kills (no proof of that except in "studies" from non-reputable institutions). and that it causes cancer that maybr true but now adays everything causes cancer. An demonize anyone who does smoke as sickly evil people. I smoke and i'm not dead for just one. I don't cough all the time i don't have cancer, I don't smoke around kids
I wonder if Bungie can sue for likeness rights
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Makes sense to me. Kids idolize video games so it will probably work!
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That is not an anti-smoking ad.
IT IS A PRO-SMOKING AD, CLOAKED AS AN ANTI-SMOKING AD.
Any ad that shows actual smoking makes smokers want to have a smoke... one that is presented from the position of the smoker, actually shows the cig come up to the mouth, is clearly a cloaked pro-smoking ad.
WHO FUNDED THIS?!
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IMO most gamers don't tend to be smokers, they're in completely different circles. I've spend plenty of time in both circles... what I think is going on here is that the advertisers are assuming that all young people play games which is not true. Someone mentioned targetting the causes like stress and social status... most gamers don't really care about their social appearence (in some cases its based on their frag ratio), and most actually dispise those that are caught up in it, so I really see this ad missing the point.
You hang out in circles of smokers?
And no they don't assume that ALL young people play games thats just plain retarded but gaming is quite popular among today's youth its called trying to reach a demographic regardless of how poorly research on said demographic is conducted.
And furthermore to say that gamers usually don't smoke is also pretty poor reasoning.
Infact the next part of what your saying is pretty stupid too but its obvious you have an entirely too black and white view of things. I mean..social appearance as frag ratios? Really? Have you never heard of people who game casually (i'd say about a good 60%+ of today's gaming community)? But at the bottom line this ad is completely awful and if it inspires anything but laughter I would be surprised. I see it about every hour on TV down here in Florida and thought it was the funniest thing ever.
when the FUCK are you retards going to realise that the tobacco companies PAY for these "anti smoking" campaigns.... theres a reason theyre not just showing sick pictures of people dieing, nasty lungs, and people with half a face... its because that would actually WORK! i dont know a fucking person whose seen a "truth" commercial and said "hey, gee i never dun knowed that! imma just now quite me smoking huh gee" no, and every single one of u FUCKS who supports these adds and thinks they work are just as responsible for the deaths of tobacco users as the companies theirself. you are not helping, you are adding.
This is fake and gay
I've seen this about a million times now. It plays all the time in Florida, and it never gets old. lulz were had.
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that was really hilarious....not.
Hey Guys-
I know the team that put this together. Jason, Rob, and the whole group at Zimmerman are awesome and worked their asses off to bring this together. As to people saying that the spot was funded by a tobacco company- in the interview linked above, they say that the State of Florida paid for it- not a tobacco company.
See- you're just jealous that they came up with a great ad *and* made you want to buy the fake game. It's ok. They're just cool that way.
Surely you can't be serious.
Who gave the State Of Florida the funding for it? Who is on the committee in charge of this?
If they aren't being influenced by a tobacco interest, then they are completely clueless on how to convince people to not smoke. This is a horrible video, with you forced into the first person perspective of lighting up, sucking it down, and blowing it out.
You can have all the fancy graphics in the world, but if you make people want to smoke, when you claim to be doing the opposite, you are either lying or incompetent.
PURE TRASH!
this is such shit. no one immediately dies after smoking a cigarette
I wish was as cool as that guy. D:
That was horrible. Worst anti-smoking ad I've ever seen.
Looks like it would be an alright game though
Lol did any other smoker notice hes smoking a Marlborough Light? lol
Worst part is, I smoke and pretty much all my gamer friends smoke and there is no better time to light a fag than when youve just pwned a level.
Also, if the level was complete, why was there a robot?
And I really cant see this working, because it has been made so unrealistic by taking one puff and dying. Its a nice idea but personally i think it comes across as a typically anti smoking ad, will just make me and most people laugh.
I cannot think of anyone whoes mind would be changed about smoking by this, im sure what children are learning in school is far more likely.
Personally I am getting a little tired of smoking now being Public Enemy No 1, I live in the UK and now if we go out, so many people have to spend the majority of the night outdoors, this doesnt put me off, all that happens is everyone goes outside. I dont think smoking should be allowed in places that serve food, or around children, but in a nightclub or pub?
The animation is very very good though, lol
I can't believe they had the character dying after one puff. That is totally unrealistic. Good thing these futuristic video games take place in reality.
Perhaps you folk don't get the message. Smoking kills. If you smoke, you made a pretty idiotic decision.
Does it matter if the government didn't want to pay the extra money for a longer timeslot, better research, and a longer animation? No. The point is carried across just fine.
It's only you folk who get defensive of your destructive habits who take away the wrong message or fail to understand it. It's this thing we call symbolism. That first smoke (and the following smokes from addiction) will most likely be a major contributor to your death. Even an otherwise perfectly healthy individual cannot resist the effects of smoking on the body.
But in the end, we all die. Enjoy your shortened lifespan.
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