FBI: Pedophile Met Would-be Victim in World of Warcraft

FBI: Pedophile Met Would-be Victim in World of Warcraft

June 25, 2008

A 38-year-old ex-convict was arrested in February after he allegedly abducted a mentally-challenged 16-year-old girl. According to FBI documents, suspect David Faboo (left) and his intended victim met while playing World of Warcraft, where Faboo's avatar was named "Avelys".

Faboo was apprehended by Oregon State Police five hours after picking the girl up near her home in California. Because the case crossed state lines, the FBI later became involved. Special Agent Scott Medlin of the FBI's Sacramento Division filed a search warrant on April 21st seeking, among other things, WoW account records for Faboo and his intended victim.

According to Agent Medlin's affidavit, Faboo told a roommate that he intended to marry the victim in both real-life and in WoW. Faboo subsequently purchased a teddy bear, cell phone, chocolates and a promise ring for the girl. When stopped by police, these items were recovered, along with rope, several knives, condoms and sex toys. Faboo had also constructed a makeshift bed out of plywood in the back of his Dodge pickup truck.

Along with WoW records, the FBI also sought account data from MySpace, where Faboo maintained a page as well as e-mail records from Yahoo and MSN. FBI documents indicate that Blizzard, MySpace, Yahoo and MSN all cooperated by providing the requested data to investigators on CD.

The FBI search warrant affidavit characterizes Faboo as a "traveler," a class of pedophile who travels to meet victims. Chief Dan Boon, who heads the police force in the victim's hometown of Wheatland, California, told the Sacramento Bee:

We can't emphasize enough that parents really be aware where their child is spending time on the Internet. If you're not, this kind of thing can happen.

Read the FBI's World of Warcraft search warrant application here (51-page pdf)... 

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Re: FBI: Pedophile Met Would-be Victim in World of Warcraft

Meh.  I know it is party of the current scare lexicon, but I'm getting a little tired of referring to 16 year olds as children and the preditors as pedophiles.

16 year olds are minors yes and these people often are preying on them, but they are not 'children' and I'm not sure you can really call the preds 'pedophiles'.

So I call sensationalism on this one.

(though it's still better then when I here people talk about 16-17-18 year olds as 'babies'.... I guess one of the side effects of longer lives, having less and less respect for minors)

Re: FBI: Pedophile Met Would-be Victim in World of Warcraft

In most states, 16 is the legal age for consent.  Having said that, this is still extremely fucked up, especially when you consider she was supposedly mentally 'slow'.

Re: FBI: Pedophile Met Would-be Victim in World of Warcraft

Yeah, no argument on the explitived up bit.  Though depending on his own mental state the 'slow' bit might have been less preditory and more protectionary.   I've known quite a few 'slow' girls who trigger 'obtain and protect' instincts in guys.

Re: FBI: Pedophile Met Would-be Victim in World of Warcraft

You are making the assumption that he knew she was "slow".

Re: FBI: Pedophile Met Would-be Victim in World of Warcraft

Seems like someone one would pick up on while grooming someone.

Though from the sounds of it, he probably was too.  It mentions he is an ex-con.. I wonder what he did?

Re: FBI: Pedophile Met Would-be Victim in World of Warcraft

It says in the search warrant that he was convicted of criminal trespass and carrying a concealed weapon without a permit. He doesn't sound like a particularly savory character, overall.

Re: FBI: Pedophile Met Would-be Victim in World of Warcraft

(though it's still better then when I here people talk about 16-17-18 year olds as 'babies'.... I guess one of the side effects of longer lives, having less and less respect for minors)

That's just fortunes of aging. I've seen 80 year old great-grandmothers refer to 30 year olds as 'kids', despite the fact that intellectually they know they aren't kids. They're just used to thinking of anyone a certain number of years younger than them as "kids."

Re: FBI: Pedophile Met Would-be Victim in World of Warcraft

Now apply this mentality to age-related outrage.

If we add another 20 years to our livespans, will we start calling 23 year olds 'children' and 'victims of pedophilia'.    Varoius ages for adult priviliages such as sex, driving, drinking, etc, have been creeping up for years now.

Re: FBI: Pedophile Met Would-be Victim in World of Warcraft

Holy crap! What server was this bastard on? I used to be in a guild with an Avelys in it.

Re: FBI: Pedophile Met Would-be Victim in World of Warcraft

I guess it's possible that your Warcraft ID has now come to the attention of the FBI.

Re: FBI: Pedophile Met Would-be Victim in World of Warcraft

They would find what I have to say rather boring. Not to mention I cancled my WoW account the moment I got AoC.

Re: FBI: Pedophile Met Would-be Victim in World of Warcraft

I HAAAVE THE POWE... oops, wrong loinclothed man-hulk. Carry on!

Re: FBI: Pedophile Met Would-be Victim in World of Warcraft
There are quite a few characters named Avelys: http://www.wowarmory.com/search.xml?searchQuery=Avelys+&searchType=all
Re: FBI: Pedophile Met Would-be Victim in World of Warcraft

How long before we start seeing MMOs characterized as "breeding grounds" for pedophiles? :\

http://www.darkesword.com/

Re: FBI: Pedophile Met Would-be Victim in World of Warcraft

Already has:

http://www.gamepolitics.com/2008/05/12/more-on-congressmans-campaign-to-...

---- There is a limit for both politicians against video games, and video games against politicians. http://www.goteamretard.com

Re: FBI: Pedophile Met Would-be Victim in World of Warcraft

I can list many more incidents of child victims from teachers at school than in WoW.

Re: FBI: Pedophile Met Would-be Victim in World of Warcraft

And many more catholic preachers...

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Re: FBI: Pedophile Met Would-be Victim in World of Warcraft

A good chunk of the 'pedophile scare' going on focuses on casting pedos as something, anything, other then what they usually are.. i.e. average looking people who abuse either thier own kids or the kids of relatives.

People do not want to be able to relate to monsters, so they work really hard to ignore the cases that are close to thier own lifestyle and instead try to find 'other' groups to characterize them as.  Gamers, gays, polyfolk, pagans, etc..

The darker side is I've known people who abuse their kids but have convinced themselves that they are not _actually_ pedophiles because 'pedophiles are gay men!' or other such group.   By casting pedophiles as 'some other group' it lets people justify what they are doing as 'I am not one of them'.

Re: FBI: Pedophile Met Would-be Victim in World of Warcraft

I'm just glad that they didn't insinuate that this was WoW's fault, for once.

Re: FBI: Pedophile Met Would-be Victim in World of Warcraft

Sick stuff...

Re: FBI: Pedophile Met Would-be Victim in World of Warcraft

I don't know how "mentaly challenged" this girl was, but where I grew up, at 16 kids were already driving. I know the age of concent is 18, but when you get your drivers license is the "coming of age" rite. It's hard to think of someone as a baby or a child when they are regularly driving around in something that can kill themselves and anyone around them. Was this guy bad? Yes. Should he be locked up? Yes. Should he have a cell mate named Bubba that will make this guy his *****? Yes. But I think that calling him a pedo is just sensationalism, because you get more kudos for catching them then for catching a predator.

This also brings up the disconnect between the age kids are allowed to drink, and when they can sign up for the Army. It just seems to me that either the driving age should be raised, the dringing age be lowed, or something.

But that is neither here nor there.

Re: FBI: Pedophile Met Would-be Victim in World of Warcraft

Age of consent in Michigan is 16, but marriage is 18.

Either way, he's a sick freak

Re: FBI: Pedophile Met Would-be Victim in World of Warcraft

Wait, was the guy in Michigan or is that just a 'for example'.

If he was from Michigan this opens up a whole new can of worms... 'legal in your own state, pedophile in another'

Re: FBI: Pedophile Met Would-be Victim in World of Warcraft

Story said he was in Oregon, I was just using Michigan as an example. Though I do wonder what California and Oregon's consent laws are

Re: FBI: Pedophile Met Would-be Victim in World of Warcraft

Warrant says she was 16, but autistic, with the mental development of a 12 year old.

Re: FBI: Pedophile Met Would-be Victim in World of Warcraft

She's not "mentaly challenged", she's socially delayed, she acts like an 11 yr old & the pictures on her myspace made her look like she was a maximum of 12 years old. Driving is not an issue her as she has not been & will not be allowed to do so by her custodial parent.

Re: FBI: Pedophile Met Would-be Victim in World of Warcraft

Does anyone else think this guy kinda looks like George Lucas?

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So speak I, some random guy.

Re: FBI: Pedophile Met Would-be Victim in World of Warcraft

However you want to slice it, diminished mental capacity would mean that her mental age was somewhat less than her physical age of 16. Scientifically speaking, the ability to judge risk physically doesn't mature in the brain until the mid 20's, so while I have every respect for minors, there is still a limit to what I believe they are capable of distinguishing in forming full consent.  Particularly a teenage girl who may have developmental difficulties. When we get into this slippery slope of stating that at a younger ages minors are acting like adults thus we must treat them as such, we are in danger of slipping into that 19th Century Victorian mindset that children are just smaller adults that require NO special protections for their vulnerabilities (re: Charles Dickens).

In the interest of full disclosure, I believe the drinking age should be 18 if the voting and military recruitment/draft age remain the same.

Also, to clarify, the age of consent in Oregon is 18.

Re: FBI: Pedophile Met Would-be Victim in World of Warcraft

The ability to judge physical risk develops very early. Emotional development ends in the mid twenties. And full consent is full consent. Just because they are a minor doesn't mean they are completely retarded. Now, consent matters far less here, given the "slow" girl. Do not forget, that slippery slop arguement goes both ways: the protect the children mentality is what got us into this current mode of video game suppression.

Re: FBI: Pedophile Met Would-be Victim in World of Warcraft

And here I thought "Faboo" was just a made up catchphrase Wakko Warner used. Color me surprised!

Re: FBI: Pedophile Met Would-be Victim in World of Warcraft

"According to Agent Medlin's affidavit, Faboo told a roommate that he intended to marry the victim in both real-life and in WoW. Faboo subsequently purchased a teddy bear, cell phone, chocolates and a promise ring for the girl. When stopped by police, these items were recovered, along with rope, several knives, condoms and sex toys. Faboo had also constructed a makeshift bed out of plywood in the back of his Dodge pickup truck."

Real romantic there, Cassanova.  Or should I say De Sade?  :/

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Re: FBI: Pedophile Met Would-be Victim in World of Warcraft

Heh.  Don't forget a lot of girls really get off to De Sade's stuff ^_~

And many more love the idea in fantasy and THINK they would like it in reality but don't actually know till they give it a go.

Meh.  Mentioning the ropes, knives, and toys just adds to the 'sensationalist' part of this story. 

Re: FBI: Pedophile Met Would-be Victim in World of Warcraft

Now we just wait for Faux news to get their grubby hands o nthis and see how many WoW accounts die as a result and how many watchdog groups say this is completely Blizzard's fault for not babysitting properly and/or callign for the game to be banned.

-kurisu7885

Re: FBI: Pedophile Met Would-be Victim in World of Warcraft

First off age of consent in CA is 18 so it was a crime no matter how you look at it.  Secondly what you should be concentrating on is that the guy felt the need to bring ropes and knives so this was a serious threat to that girl. I don't think "sensationalism" plays any role in this, this was a pervert targeting a minor.

Re: FBI: Guy Met Girl In WoW

Meh. Maybe, maybe not. I have ropes and knives in my SUV, too. I also have screwdrivers, wrenches, a fire extinguisher, a gas can, rags, oil, transmission fluid, cables, poles, and a horde of other tools. It doesn't mean that I plan to kidnap, torture, and kill someone. It just means that I like to be prepared for situations that I frequently find myself in, such as fixing things, helping people move, and lugging several people and their gear to LAN parties.

Considering that he drives a truck and that he fashioned a bed in the back of it, it's likely that he carries tools with him. Rope and knives are viable tools, and don't necessarily mean that someone's going to be kidnapped and murdered. Unless he walked to her door with a knife in one hand and a length of rope in the other, he didn't necessarily have any intention of using these. And considering that he intended to marry her, he probably meant no harm at all. (And I did say "probably".)

Things to consider:
Did he know that she was a minor? Just because she's 16, doesn't mean that she told him her real age.
She's "slow" compared to who? Paris Hilton? Britney Spears? She can obviously navigate a conversation well enough to flirt with the guy, so how is he supposed to know, unless she flat-out says, "I. Have. Developmental. Problems."?
He's not a pedophile. It's as simple as that. Pedophilia involves pre-pubescents. Sixteen is not as such.
His criminal background is the only thing that matters at this point. If he's done this before and it turned out violent, then this is bad. If he's an ex-con for crossing state lines with a Playboy in his truck, then everything is different.

Granted, he does look like a potential Unibomber.

Re: FBI: Guy Met Girl In WoW

You make a great point about the rope and knives ... i remember a case in Oklahoma in which a guy was being charaged with running a meth lab.  Since they couldn't find an actual meth lab they claimed he had many items that would allow him to make meth.  The problem is common house hold cleaners are part of making meth, common drugs that a person can buy over the counter are part of meth and the typical way of making it is in a bath tub with a car battery .... umm well crap I have all those items.  His case was of course dismissed because frankly since he didnt have a warehouse full of the crap it was mostly a we just really want to bust this guy but we have no proof beyond our dislike of him.

 

 

Re: FBI: Pedophile Met Would-be Victim in World of Warcraft

you forgot to mention the HATCHET

Re: FBI: Pedophile Met Would-be Victim in World of Warcraft

Here I always thought the "G" in "LFG" meant "group."

Re: FBI: Pedophile Met Would-be Victim in World of Warcraft

My biggest question here would be if the girl is 'mentaly challanged' why were her parents letting her play a game like WoW with no supervision at all? I mean I'm not saying it isn't possible she was 'functional' to a degree but really letting their kid randomly plunk around the net like that is just asking for trouble. I mean I was around 18 when I actualy got into mmo's signifgantly.

Re: FBI: Pedophile Met Would-be Victim in World of Warcraft

Well, "mentaly challanged" is about as non-specific as you can get. It can cover the entire range of mental problems at pretty much any level of severity.

Depending on what problem exactly the girl's got, I could easily see her as being allowed to play WoW unsupervised.

Re: FBI: Pedophile Met Would-be Victim in World of Warcraft

I have seen people claim mentally challenged over beind ADD, just because you get bored easily doesn't mean you are mentally challenged it means you get bored easily.

 

 

Re: FBI: Pedophile Met Would-be Victim in World of Warcraft

How was the girl able to:

 

hold a conversation?

 

Reading stories like this reminds me of watching Nancy Grace.  You only get the bad facts that are twisted into words of horrific nature. 

Re: FBI: Pedophile Met Would-be Victim in World of Warcraft

This just happens to be one of those stories where ALL the facts just happen to be twisted & horrific in nature. There is NOTHING else to tell.

Re: FBI: Pedophile Met Would-be Victim in World of Warcraft

Hrm.  Reading the linked article, sounds like the stories are not matching up very well.

According to the guy, he thought he was resucing a grown woman in an abusive relationship.  The police don't buy the explination under the idea 'it is just the sort of thing a guilty person would say!' which is a distrubing bit of reasoning.

The girl's comments only go as far as a text message saying 'she got in the wrong car with the wrong man'.

One plausible explination here is a mentally slow girl was having some fantasy fun with a guy and got (justifiably) scared when it turned real.

I guess it will depend on what they find in the chat logs.   Good example of why keeping your logs could potentially be really important.

Re: FBI: Pedophile Met Would-be Victim in World of Warcraft

Again Dennis, pedophilla is a fetish and is not a crime, quit confuseing it with criminal acts.


 

Re: FBI: Pedophile Met Would-be Victim in World of Warcraft

To clarify about risk assessment development, I was pointing to the recent study by Dr. Giedd of the National Institute of Mental Health writing in the Journal of Adolescent Health that points to differences between an adolescent brain and a fully adult brain neurologically speaking. It is clearly NOT just emotional development we're speaking of:

"Adolescence is a time of substantial neurobiological and behavioral change, but the teen brain is not a broken or defective adult brain. The adaptive potential of the overproduction/selective elimination process, increased connectivity and integration of disparate brain functions, changing reward systems and frontal/limbic balance, and the accompanying behaviors of separation from family of origin, increased risk taking, and increased sensation seeking have been highly adaptive in our past and may be so in our future. These changes and the enormous plasticity of the teen brain make adolescence a time of great risk and great opportunity."

Elizabeth R. McAnarney MD, Department of Pediatrics, University of Rochester Medical Center goes on in an accompanying editorial:

"Novelty seeking/sensation seeking and risk taking is the basis for considerable growth during adolescence, as well as for the seemingly reckless behavior of some adolescents. Novelty seeking/sensation seeking and risk taking are topics of growing interest as adolescent brain development is defined better and as morbidity from adolescent risk taking mounts....The implication of our growing knowledge of brain--behavior mechanisms of adolescent conditions should provide insights into the risk of particular adolescents for morbidity and mortality."

Basically put, an adolescent brain generally is less risk averse than an adult's. Cognitive recognition of life-threatening or life-altering actions is somewhat limited, as is long-range planning and emotional control. 

I'm not saying that maybe we haven't gone overboard in being protective of children, but age of consent laws in terms of sexual contact with adults is not even in the same discussion as censorship regarding video game or other media content. One subject is regarding BEHAVIOR versus the other involving EXPRESSION. Please don't equate being 16 (in general terms as there can be no HARD cutoff other than a legal one) as most likely having INFORMED, willing consent. Kids are supposed to make these types of mistakes, but adults are supposed to know better.

Re: FBI: Pedophile Met Would-be Victim in World of Warcraft

Yet another story about grooming where they oversensationalise the "where" and leave the most important part — that parents should be aware of what their kids are up to in the tubes — as a closing comment, after the reader has mentally filed the article under "online games = evil".

Re: FBI: Pedophile Met Would-be Victim in World of Warcraft

Come on, look at that beard. There's no way he wasn't going to turn out to be a pedophile.

Re: FBI: Pedophile Met Would-be Victim in World of Warcraft

LOL! Yep, that what i was thinking to.

Re: FBI: Pedophile Met Would-be Victim in World of Warcraft

Wow, thank God they stopped him before he used those "items", at least I think they did.

I'm curious as to just what kind of mental handicap the girl has if shes able to communicate and play online with other users and arrange meetings with strangers, stupidity?

Re: FBI: Pedophile Met Would-be Victim in World of Warcraft

Socially underdeveloped, in otherwords:

Acting, behaving, and thinking along the lines of an 11-12 year old, if that. still thinking of LOVE & relating to it in a childlike manner hugging & kissing, NOT the physical act of an adult. Picture an 11 year old in your mind when making posts on this matter.

Re: FBI: Pedophile Met Would-be Victim in World of Warcraft

"When stopped by police, these items were recovered, along with rope, several knives, condoms and sex toys."

 

Creepy, man. That is just creepy

Re: FBI: Pedophile Met Would-be Victim in World of Warcraft

I'd like to know why a "mentally challenged" 16 year old was playing WoW by herself in the first place. 

Re: FBI: Pedophile Met Would-be Victim in World of Warcraft

Yeah, mentally challenged is a very ambiguous term, more like and insult.

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Re: FBI: Pedophile Met Would-be Victim in World of Warcraft

Can I have his gold?

Re: FBI: Pedophile Met Would-be Victim in World of Warcraft

First, Pedophilia is considered a disorder in medical circles but is also defined as a sexual preoccupation with girls of pre-pubescent age (generally younger than 12).  Specifically, targets of pedophilia typically have not developed sexual characteristics yet, and this is what true pedophiles focus on.  Pedophilia is rooted in physical immaturity, though mental maturity can occasionally influence it.  If this guy knew she was 16 and was interested in her because of her youth, it doesn't necessarily mean he was a pedophile.  He might have been an ephebophile (one who is sexually interested in post-pubescent youths).  Ephebophilia is not considered a disorder unless it becomes an obsession, but in that case, any obsession is considered a mental disorder.  The distinction between pedophilia and ephebophilia is often completely ignored in American society because interest in any youth under the age of 18 is considered mentally sick.  Even non-sexual interest in youths is stigmatized, and biased more against men than women, though there are plenty of examples of older women who prey on younger boys.

But I'm not saying this guy wasn't mentally sick.  If he intended to use the knives, ropes, etc. in his car to dominate an unwilling (and physically weaker) victim, then by all means he is a predator and pervert.  Regardless of his mental health, he IS a criminal because he abducted a girl.  Regardless of whether she willingly went with him, she is under the age of consent and not emancipated (she could not possibly be given her mental condition) and therefore it was not her decision to make.

In all likelyhood, this guy is what he appears to be: a sexually obsessive ephebophile.  He most likely finds girls around 16 to be particularly attractive due to the fact that they are easily dominated, both mentally and physically, but are not so young as to be physically unattractive.  This seems to be a classic case of obsessive predatory dysfunction.  The extra details, such as the fact that he used WoW to stalk his victim, are not important, and are only mentioned because it creates some controversy that the news media can thrive on.  The fact is that predators can use all kinds of environments to hunt thier victims and that parents need to be aware of the environments their children play in, both real and virtual.

On this note, I believe more parents should play video games.  If your children play MMO's, then you should play the same MMO's, and play with them.  Group with your kids, know the people they hang out with in the MMO and be a part of your kid's circle of friends.  Teenagers will often tell their friends much more about the people they meet online than they do when they talk to their parents.  If, as a parent, you can blur the line between parent and friend, you will be much more capable of protecting your kids and understanding who you should really watch out for.

Besides, MMO's are always more fun when you play with people you know.

Re: FBI: Pedophile Met Would-be Victim in World of Warcraft

"On this note, I believe more parents should play video games. If your children play MMO's, then you should play the same MMO's, and play with them. Group with your kids, know the people they hang out "

This won't stop them from making a "toon" on a relm the parent is not on....

especially if your the non-custodial parent...

Though the game does have parental controls that can be set up, IF the parent knows how to use them.

Re: FBI: Pedophile Met Would-be Victim in World of Warcraft

I actually feel bad for the guy because he's not a pedophile, and the way it sounds in the article (at least what's on here) is that they're calling it abduction because he crossed state lines. Also, rope and knives aren't exactly uncommon things in somebody's pickup truck.

Re: FBI: Pedophile Met Would-be Victim in World of Warcraft

But you must admit that sex toys are somewhat uncommon, along with a wedding ring, etc.

What if he did honestly think she was much older though? And from the article, it seems that he's a little bit "out there" too.

We shouldn't just label him a sick man yet, we don't know exactly what happened. And remember, innocent until proven guilty

Re: FBI: Pedophile Met Would-be Victim in World of Warcraft

Yeah, but within american sociaty 'out there' males are 'dangerous sickos' while 'out there' females are 'awww, poor things who don't know what they are doing and need to be protected

Re: FBI: Pedophile Met Would-be Victim in World of Warcraft

Why would he incourage a girl he believed to be an adult to get imancipated?

And what do you think the HATCHET was for? TO CHOP HER UP!!!

I call that a sicko

Re: FBI: Pedophile Met Would-be Victim in World of Warcraft

It is my strong belief that this PEDOPHILE, was under the impression that she was actually lying about her age and that she wasn't 16 like she said that she was actually 11, looking at the photos he was looking at, she doesnt look like she could be older that that, she clearly looks pre-pubecent, & possible 75-80 lbs.

Re: FBI: Pedophile Met Would-be Victim in World of Warcraft

This guy's mugshot reminds me of Mad TV's Will Sasso and his Kenny Rogers character.

Re: FBI: Pedophile Met Would-be Victim in World of Warcraft

Here's my example.... sorry for going off topic.

www.youtube.com/watch

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I appreciate and completely agree with everyone's commitment to insisting that this guy is innocent until proven guilty. However, if all of the material included in the warrant that Dennis linked is true, then this guy doesn't have a prayer. The highlight: Faboo's roommate told the FBI that he (Faboo) knew the girl was underage, and tried to convince him not to go through with meeting her, but Faboo said that he was going to do it anyway because he didn't mind going back to jail. It doesn't get much more damning than that.

Re: FBI: Pedophile Met Would-be Victim in World of Warcraft

*face-palm*

That's what I get for not reading the warrent

If that's the case...then yeah he's screwed..

Re: FBI: Pedophile Met Would-be Victim in World of Warcraft

See now that is intersting since the roommate also told police that Faboo thought the girl was an adult in an abusive relationship.

Re: FBI: Pedophile Met Would-be Victim in World of Warcraft

 

So preventable. These parents fail. If your daughter is mentally challenged, at least SUPERVISE what she does on the internet. Is that too much to ask of parents these days? Control your children. 

Re: FBI: Pedophile Met Would-be Victim in World of Warcraft

If only it where that simple! Re-read the part about the parent "sole-legal custody" etc, then re-think the family laws & the court system that goes with it, "the best interst of the child" not an issue with them at all...the answer lies within the failed laws of the family courts system!

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I'm all for freedom of ttnet vitamin speech and allowing rent a car game makers to put whatever they want in games, but there's one thing about this app that has me scratching my head.  Correct me if I'm wrong, but from araç kiralama the previous article araba kiralama on this I gathered that players can use Google maps in-game to find the other (real-life?) dealers in their area.  If this is the case, has travesti anyone considered what's stopping someone from using this app to actually move drugs between hands for reals?

But majority araba kiralama of their outrage araç kiralama stems from what it could DO TO children, not the content itself.  Talk to one of these people and you'll find they don't think any books kiralık araba should be banned from children.  Mention American Psycho and they talk about kiralık araç the redeeming value of using imagination to construct a story.  Reading, no matter what the content, is largely viewed as a consequenceless activity for people of any age.  The reason why I mention American Psycho is because of the content itself.  Gaming never has and likely never will have any scenes where someone has sex with a severed head.  Not gonna happen.  Yet despite this, they'll fight tooth and nail to protect their children from two boys kissing in Bully but whatever they read is harmless... yeah.

The entire arguement is kiralık oto based upon a social normality inflicted by luddites who can't figure out the controls for Halo so it's frightening and terrifying and obviously the cause of youth violence on the rise even though, in reality, it's in decline (which is actually a HUGE suprise given minibüs kiralama the economies status).  In  a perfect world, we would have parents that actually parent.  The idea of sales restrictions on media on oto kiralama any form to accomidate parental unwillingness to get involved with their child's life is the real problem to me.  Here I am, 32 years old, and being held up at a self-scan rent a car needing to show ID before I can buy a $10 M rated game all because Soccer Momthra can't be bothered to look at the crap Billy Genericallystupidson does in his free time.  It's too hard for her, so I have to suffer?

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Thanks good job;

Btw, I think Atari and Midway will drop out too, but mostly travesti because  these guys have done nothing travesti or little and need to start saving costs. and dizi izle

YES.

Now I don't have to get off my ass for the important shit anymore!

Whats next, ordering pizza from Xbox live?

Wait... I think that sounds like a good idea.

But I think voting should MAKE you get off your ass, and see outside or a second while you go vote. I mean, your picking the president of the United States of America for God's Sake... least you can do is drive down there and punch out a card.

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Posted 02/09/10 at 02:50pm
DarkSaber: Whoever told him/her/it that is dumb. They should have done like most companies and made-up some bullshit, yet legal, reason for it not getting the job.
Posted 02/09/10 at 01:18pm
Valdearg: I do agree that it shouldn't be legal. That's for sure.
Posted 02/09/10 at 01:16pm
Andrew Eisen: Shouldn't be. Spirit of anti-discrimination laws would seem to include sexual orientation (and eye color). Plus there's always equal protection and such. Never know until you try.
Posted 02/09/10 at 01:14pm
Valdearg: @AE: Doubtful. Again, it's perfectly legal.
Posted 02/09/10 at 01:10pm
Andrew Eisen: Should have sued (unless that wasn't an option given her financial situation or something). Might have won.
Posted 02/09/10 at 01:00pm
Valdearg: Story about a Male to Female TG who was expressly told she wouldn't be given a job because she was TG. Its not the main point of the story, but explicit, perfectly legal discrimination like this exists.
Posted 02/09/10 at 12:53pm
Valdearg: Lol, I don't know. It may very well be legal to do so. Though that might able to fall under the "race" restriction, depending on how that point is argued.
Posted 02/09/10 at 12:51pm
Valdearg: I don't think they do have any legal recourse. I'll have to dig around, but I seriously believe that if the law doesn't specifically mention Sexual Orientation or Gender Identity, they can still be discriminated against in those 29 states.
Posted 02/09/10 at 12:51pm
Andrew Eisen: Eye color isn't covered either but I doubt it would be considered legal to refuse to hire people with green eyes.
Posted 02/09/10 at 12:48pm
Andrew Eisen: My explanation is longer than the Shoutbox will allow. Suffice to say that while those who are discriminated against do have legal recourse, anti-discrimination law should specifically cite sexual orientation so that there’s no question about it.
Posted 02/09/10 at 12:42pm
Valdearg: "There is no federal law that consistently protects LGBT individuals from employment discrimination; it remains legal in 29 states, and in 38 states to do so based on gender identity or expression." From the Human Rights Campaign.
Posted 02/09/10 at 12:40pm
Valdearg: @AE: Why don't you think I'm correct? I know Wiki could be flawed, but as far as it says, its up to date as of June 2009.
Posted 02/09/10 at 12:39pm
Andrew Eisen: I don't think you're right but I really don't know and don't have the time to find out. However things actually are, it's very clear how they actually should be.
Posted 02/09/10 at 12:34pm
Valdearg: "just because there's no specific state level protection for it, doesn't make discrimination right or legal." I would disagree. If there's no laws against it, it makes it perfectly legal. It's definitely not right, but perfectly legal to do.
Posted 02/09/10 at 12:33pm
Valdearg: Meaning in 29 states, private sector discrimination against gays is perfectly legal.. Sickening.
Posted 02/09/10 at 12:33pm
Valdearg: 19 states have no protections, and another 10 only have protections for public sector jobs.
Posted 02/09/10 at 12:32pm
Andrew Eisen: Well, most businesses have equal rights policies in place and just because there's no specific state level protection for it, doesn't make discrimination right or legal. Still, no argument against adding such protections.
Posted 02/09/10 at 12:28pm
Valdearg: More information. Apparently, it's worse than I actually thought.
Posted 02/09/10 at 12:28pm
Valdearg: Check the link. Apparently, its more like 20 states that have no protections.
Posted 02/09/10 at 12:26pm
Andrew Eisen: In the US? Not that I'm aware of. Sad if true.
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