June 30, 2008 -
...the one in which GP explains why the video game bill passed in New York last week is all bark and no bite.
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GP on Joystiq: NY Video Game Legislation Has Missing Teeth
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Monte: trolls are just at their absolute worst when it comes to women and feminist. You could bet good money that if the developer were male the trolls would be silent and the conversation would actually focus on the journalism.10/18/2014 - 9:18pm
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Monte: Papa: Not the first time we've had a journalism scandals before, but the harassment never got close to this level; the difference with this scandal is that feminists are involved. Without the feminist angle, their would be A LOT less harrassment10/18/2014 - 9:15pm
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Papa Midnight: Monte: That's honestly rather short-sighted. As has been proven with other persons who have been targeted, if it wasn't Quinn, it would be someone else.10/18/2014 - 6:26pm
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Avalongod: I think that's part of what gives an esoteric news story like this real life...it taps into a larger narrative about misogyny in society outside of games.10/18/2014 - 3:29pm
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Avalongod: @Monte, well the trolls made death threats that came to police (and media attention). I think this is tapping into a larger issue outside of games about how women are treated in society (like all the "real rape" stuff during the last election)10/18/2014 - 3:28pm
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Wonderkarp: Zippy : Havent tried the PS4 controller. might later.10/18/2014 - 2:37pm
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Monte: Seirously, If Quinn was not involved and GG was instead about something like the Mordor Marketing contracts, the trolling would have never grown so vile and disgusting. There have been plenty of movements in the past that never sufferred from behavior..10/18/2014 - 1:57pm
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Monte: We have seen scandel's before but the trolling has never been as vile as what we see with GG. Trolls usually have such a tiny voice you can barely notice them, but its like moths to a flame whenever femistist are involved.10/18/2014 - 1:53pm
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ZippyDSMlee: Wonderkarp: You might be able to if you had a PS4 controller.10/18/2014 - 1:00pm
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MaskedPixelante: http://store.steampowered.com/app/327940/ Night Dive starts charging for freeware.10/18/2014 - 12:21pm
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Matthew Wilson: the sad thing is there are trolls on both sides of this. people need to stop acting like their side is so pure.10/18/2014 - 12:19pm
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MechaTama31: So, only speak out on a scandal that hasn't attracted trolls? I wouldn't hold my breath...10/18/2014 - 10:49am
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Monte: I feel like GG just needs to die. The movement is FAR to tainted by hatred and BS for it to be useful for any conversation. Let GG die, and then rally behind the NEXT gaming journalism scandal, and start the conversation fresh.10/18/2014 - 10:33am
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quiknkold: and we dont have a Dovakin to call a cease fire10/17/2014 - 7:37pm
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quiknkold: The whole thing is Futile. Both sides are so buried deep in their trenchs that there isnt a conversation. Its just Finger Pointing, Name Calling, Doxxing, Threats. there needs to be a serious conversation, and GG isnt it.10/17/2014 - 7:37pm
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quiknkold: I thought it was a good article. Jeff is right. I feel like GamerGate did destroy its message. I am for Ethics in game journalism, but man. so much hate. and its on both sides. I've seen some awful stuff spewed on twitter. Its a big reason why I exited..10/17/2014 - 7:34pm
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Matthew Wilson: while he focused on gg, he did call out both sides crap.10/17/2014 - 7:18pm
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Papa Midnight: That was a damn good read offered by Jeff Gertsmann.10/17/2014 - 7:17pm
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Matthew Wilson: http://www.giantbomb.com/articles/letter-from-the-editor-10-17-2014/1100-5049/ deferentially a nice write up.10/17/2014 - 6:44pm
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james_fudge: I think Evan killed it. He's a great guy and super smart.10/17/2014 - 6:38pm
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Comments
Re: GP on Joystiq: NY Video Game Legislation Has Missing Teeth
Yep, another example of the people we put in charge wasting our money foolishly. If only they were personally responsible for the money they waist. Wake Up New York.
Re: GP on Joystiq: NY Video Game Legislation Has Missing Teeth
I heard PCs and handhelds are specificly exempt. I can't imagine why considering what they'er trying to do. My worry isn't so much this law per se as laws it might open up for consideration since this one passed :(
Re: GP on Joystiq: NY Video Game Legislation Has Missing Teeth
My problem is that the Nintendo DS and PSP are both game consoles, and neither has parental controls. So, neither may be sold under this law.
The law may define a "video game console" specifically and accurately, but I doubt it.
Re: GP on Joystiq: NY Video Game Legislation Has Missing Teeth
I agree, I was wondering about that. And, are computers exempt? Are foreign devices exempt?Is it really legal to pass a state law that forces a company in another state to some sort of action (in this case, install controls)? Or, will this bill require that handheld devices no longer be sold in the state at all?
How well does it define these video games? Do arcade cabinets and other single function systems require parental control before being sold in New York? Gambling devices? All those are electronic/video games as well, so much as in they are games on a vid screen...
Re: GP on Joystiq: NY Video Game Legislation Has Missing Teeth
I still haven't seen the text of the bill so this may be a moot point, but does the bill apply to online sales at all or strictly brick and mortar shelves?
If it does apply to online sales then it does in fact have some teeth, specifically in regards to Indie games. Most Indie games are not rated as the majority of them are sold online and it's a costly process. The only ones that bother with getting rated are the ones that manage to score a box deal or a deal to publish via another channel that requires it.
Re: GP on Joystiq: NY Video Game Legislation Has Missing Teeth
I hate when we get these articles while I am at work. I can't read it until tonight.
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Re: GP on Joystiq: NY Video Game Legislation Has Missing Teeth
Is it because everything they wasted taxpayer's money on to try and set up is already done voluntarily?