Did Minnesota Negotiate Away Taking Its Video Game Law to the Supreme Court?

July 1, 2008 -

As GamePolitics reported yesterday, the ESA announced that Minnesota would reimburse $65,000 in legal fees to the video game industry over the state's failed 2006 "fine the buyer" video game law.

In our coverage, we mentioned that the move apparently signalled that Minnesota would not be taking the case before the U.S. Supreme Court, its only remaining legal recourse. We've got a call into the office of Attorney General Lori Swanson (left) on the Supreme Court issue, but Finance & Commerce now seems to have nailed that part of the story down:

Attorney General Lori Swanson’s decision not to appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court was “practical,” according to spokesman Benjamin Wogsland, who pointed out that the nation’s highest court takes “less than 1 percent of discretionary cases every year.”

But Paul Smith, an attorney representing the [video game industry] plaintiffs, said Monday that the state decided not to pursue the case further because of a deal that would require the attorney general’s office to pay a reduced amount in fees owed to plaintiff’s lawyers. Smith could not say what the reduced amount was, though a court filing from May 19 shows that the plaintiffs’ lawyers were owed nearly $84,000. Woglsand did not return calls Monday.

 

GP: If Paul Smith is correct, Minnesota essentially bargained away - for $19,000 plus future legal fees -  its opportunity to take its argument before the U.S. Supreme Court. Given all that the state had already invested in the case, that would seem a rather curious decision.

It would have been fascinating - and, yes, risky - for the Supreme Court to consider a video game law, especially given Justice Antonin Scalia's comments to Law of Play blogger Anthony Prestia that game legislation might be constitutional.


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Re: Did Minnesota Negotiate Away Taking Its Video Game Law to

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This strikes me as a rational decision.  If they had petitioned for the Supreme Court to hear the case, it is a near certainty that the Court would decline.  Aside from the statistical infrequency of cases being accepted, this one presents very few of the circumstances that the Court looks for when it decides whether to accept the case (I count only one: that it pertains to a constitutional rule of broad application).  Given that it would almost certainly never be heard by the Court, this settlement is like free money.

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We need to gut shrubs cronies in the supreme court... I'd rather have those that follow the spirit of the law and the rights we hold dear than big biz shills who get there rocks off playing ultra fundie...............

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Re: Did Minnesota Negotiate Away Taking Its Video Game Law to

So Scalia thinks regulating real guns is unconstitutional but regulating virtual guns is a-ok.  Unsurprising, but still irritating.

I imagine it was an exercise

I imagine it was an exercise in damage limitation. They had already blown a large amount of money on this futile effort, bringing it to the Supreme court would have just extended the whole thing, costing them even more in attorneys fees.

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So what about all the tax payers who had their money wasted? (New York, your next)


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Keep in mind that what Scalia said was just a maybe. If presented with all the information he may decide otherwise. Also, regardless of his stance, he's only one of many Justices.

 -If shit and bricks were candy and tits, we'd all be livin' large. For information on games and psychology, look up: Jonathan Freedman(2002)Block & Crain(2007)Grand Theft Childhood, by Harvard Medical School researchers Larry Kutner and Cheryl Olson

Reality/////////////////////////////////////Fantasy. Seems like a pretty thick line to me...

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Frankly I'm kinda glad it didn't go to the Surpeme Court yet, with its recent 5-4 ruling on keeping the second amendment in Washington DC...If the 2nd amendment came close to being restricted, what's stopping the 1st from the same treatment?

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I'm going to take this one and be thankful.  Saves tax dollars in the long run, and despite the missed opportunity to see the Supreme Court rule on VG legislation...we won't have to see the Supreme Court rule on VG legislation.

 
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