Jack Thompson is a hero.
At least, that's the word from America's Freedom Festival, an event taking place in Provo, Utah this week. As reported by the Deseret News:
America's Freedom Festival at Provo honored four individuals with 2008 Freedom Awards Wednesday night... The honorees... personified some or all of the festival's four traditional values of family, freedom, God and country...
A lawyer dedicated to protecting children from violence, obscenity and pornography in the media, Jack Thompson was honored especially for his defense and support of families.
Thompson... said that while his life has been filled with persecution and ridicule, he would go back and do it all over again, with even more fervor than before.
Now, Utah County, where the festival takes place, is an extremely conservative corner of the United States. So it is perhaps understandable that organizers there value Thompson's conservative Christian agenda. That's their call.
However, to consider Thompson only on his values crusade ignores a troubling list of negatives that stretches from Orem to Salt Lake City. Consider that this "American hero":
These items are strictly a matter of record, and do not include Thompson's strident cultural rhetoric (with which one may or may not agree) or his penchant for sheer vitriol. Moreover, Thompson himself has written that he expects to be disbarred by the Florida Supreme Court.
There seem to be two possibilities here. One is that the selection committee did not conduct due diligence on its nominee. The other is that they just didn't care. Perhaps the committee was aware of Thompson's issues but chose to believe that they are part of some vast cultural conspiracy against him waged by liberals, the video game industry, the Florida Bar, Florida Supreme Court, US District Court, gays, shock radio, the Republican Blank-Rome law firm, various judges, the Alabama Bar, etc.
But at some point the idea of a conspiracy that large becomes silly. What's happening to Thompson now is more like a judicial consensus on the man's behavior.
How did America's Freedom Festival fail to see that?
GP: We've made several attempts in recent weeks to get an explanation from the committee as to why Thompson was chosen for the award, but got little more than the fact that he was nominated and ultimately selected. That lack of openness is especially troubling in light of the fact Utah County's government is the sponsor of the award event (i.e. - the taxpayers footed the bill for this award).
More local coverage in the Provo Herald-Extra...
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Unfortunately they probably write most of that off under the part about him "risking his career" for his crusade.
-Gray17
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"No... This is UTAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH!"
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Would the Grand Canyon be a large enough pit?
I don´t think even the Grand Caynon can contain so much Jack Thompson´s shit. There is not just enough space in the planet for that.
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"FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM"
"You keep using that word. I do not think that it means what you think it means."
"Freedom!"
"FREEdom!"
..."Freeduuuum!"
/Psychonauts 4evar
To the organisers, freedom means the freedom to have strong Conservative Christian values.
I can't take this award seriously.
He's done nothing but crusade against the freedoms that the festival should be supporting. How they think he's qualified is beyond me, but it looks like its politically motivated, not motivated by actually deserving the award.
Rabid, spittle-spewing, hilarious and childish reaction from Jack in 3...2...1...
I have a twenty saying he's going to make some sweeping remark about gamers, and perhaps call Dennis a few names. He might even throw a 'neener-neener' in to let us know it's him for definite.
I'll second that. His name-call will involve Dennis's intelligence ("idiot", "moron", or somesuch). He'll also take a swipe at GamePolitics readers, conveniently forgetting that he's one too. And he'll announce that this is the first step in his Big Secret Plan to reverse everything that's happened to him in the past year or so.
Eh, congratulations on the award, Jack. I hope it makes you happy and was worth it.
Thirded.
He'll mention me, "Frank," my Friend-Who-Will-Not-Be-Named (Not a Voldemort rip), and another friend. He'll then call us all sinners who should burn (though at least three of us four are Christians, I don't know about the (non-Voldemort rip) anonymous friend and I'm not asking him.
I AM A LOST SOUL, CONDEMNED TO HAUNT THE DREAMS OF JOHN BRUCE "JACK" THOMPSON UNTIL HIS CRUSADE AGAINST VIDEO GAMES ENDS. SOMEONE, PLEASE! END MY SUFFERING!
Call me crazy, but I don't think a group like America's Freedom Festival handing out Freedom Awards to people like JT has a proper inventory of all their competitive spherical glass objects... ;)
There's another similar "Freedom" group in the US, but they honour veterans. You know, people who actually fought and died for freedom, not "fictionally sacrificed their career to protect the children FROM freedom..."
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Maybe they have Jerrod's spherical glass objects....
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"A few buckets short of a sandbox that one is." has always been a personal favorite
Hunting the shadows of the troubled dreams.
I get the feeling he was submitted for this award as a joke, probably a couple of stoners who got some bad granola and said "heeeeeeey man, we should submit Jack Thompson for that American hero award, no WAY he'll pass the preliminary screenings."
---You are likely to be eaten by a Grue.
"Jack Thompson should be an hero."
Fixed.
I lulled
Took the words right out of my mouth, Anon.
You know, Jack, it isn't a conspiracy. Everybody just hates you.
Other Freedom Award recipients:
- a 24-year-old college student who survived the Rwanda genocide "Warner said Ilibagiza was honored because of her dedication and faith in God and the way she has used that faith to change her life and those of others."
- "Farley was recognized Wednesday for his example of the free enterprise system in the United States."
- "Retired Air Force Major Brian Shul is a man who nearly gave his life serving his country. An Air Force pilot in Vietnam, Shul's AT-28 aircraft was shot down near the Cambodian border."
So lets see. A woman who hid along with others, braving fear and discovery to escape genocide. A man who was shot down in a war, nearly left for dead, and was rescued. A man who rose from humble beginnings to grow a business into a thriving enterprise.
And a has-been who insults everyone, excuses his behavior with references to Jesus, threatens everyone in sight who even dares to disagree with him, and would rather the government regulate free enterprise.
One of these things is not like the other...
So freedom FROM media? How exactly is the media oppressing the freedom of families to not buy things, to turn off the TV, and shut off the computer?
-- If your wiimote goes snicker-snack, check your wrist-strap...
Dennis, I wouldn't even bother focusing on all those counts against him listed above, but just how well he meets the above quote.
One good example would be over Bully, he did not give a darned about such until Rockstar made that game, and as soon as his ass was handed to him in court the so called issues falls off the face of the earth. Also note that after that he sure has not done anything to realistically help with the anti-bullying group he used for his agenda, again he just used them and split without contributing a thing.
And I am sure there are plenty of such examples we could list from his rich, colorful past.... Such as his "obscene" behavior when it comes to tragic events like V-Tech and Columbine... The facts that much of what he does is not due to him or whatever he accomplishes ends up being invalidated(i.e. Cop Killa still got released, those "first amendment proof" bills, and so on)... Etc...
I wonder who Jack sued or rather, threatened to sue to snag himself an award? 'Cuz this doesn't really make sense.
What does this group represent? Prior to Thompson's nomination I'd never heard of them. Are they in any way similar to groups like Lyndon Larouche's organization? Does this award actually carry any weight with it, or is it just wackos congratulating wackos for being wackos?
I think it's sort of like a Montgomery Burns Award for Outstanding Achievement in the Field of Excellence.
Probably. I never heard of this whole group prior to this.
Freedom? Uh, isnt that 1st Ammendment part of that freedom thing? You know, that freedom that JT tries to squash like a fly?
That's what I thought.
Utah obviously resides somewhere in Bizarro World.
I am a resident of Utah County and a lifelong gamer. Although I don’t completely agree with the choices of game developers or publishers I believe in freedom. Jack Thompson clearly believes the opposite. This award being given to him is an insult to freedom.
When I first heard that he was nominated for this award I wrote to the organization expressing the facts about the lack of freedom he stands for. Sadly I was not even considered for a response, although not surprisingly.
I also live in Utah. I see what Jack Thomson does as destroying freedom, not defending it. But they didn't respond to me either.
They're not honoring a hero. They're honoring a fanatic (see my pretty new sig below) who is doing everything in his power, which isn't a whole hell of a lot, to try and tell me and millions others how they can live their lives. How in the world is that freedom? It's the same with most, but not all, religious people, especially the evangelicals. They force you into one narrow minded view of life, prohibiting things that they and their conservative little brains find offensive.
One set of moral standards is what they have been trying to push on us for years. Thompson is just in one little corner dedicated to video games. Practically everyone at that festival should be ashamed for their hypocrisy, claiming they fight for my freedom, when they're only fighting for the freedoms they find decent and godly.
The set of morals Thompson is trying to push flies in the face of most Americans today, and in no way exhonorates freedom, as it puts limits on what we can enjoy, and when we can enjoy it.
Jack Thompson, fighting freedom every day of his life.
Edit: One last thing: Regarding the picture at the top with Thompson looking all snazzy with the bowtie. Does anyone think he asked to move that podium around?
-"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill
"Edit: One last thing: Regarding the picture at the top with Thompson looking all snazzy with the bowtie. Does anyone think he asked to move that podium around?"
I was going to comment on exactly that same issue. "I'd like to thank the med... Excuse me. Can I move the podium, please? The other award ceremonies let me move the podium."
I wish I had something better to say, but...
ROFL
Honestly, I hope the day he gets disbarred they catch wind of this and strip him of it.
Not likely given that they acknowledge that his career's at risk. They know he's in serious danger of losing his law license, but they appear to consider that a sacrifice for the fight against obscenity.
-Gray17
Some saying about a blind squirrel comes to mind.
. . Wisdom begins in wonder. - Socrates . .
Sad truth is, he is probobly cringing himself because of this award, because he, like most christian leaders, probobly hates Mormons.
To have such a non-professional lawyer roaming around and keep his job, diss out gamers with no information to back himself up, to have him spew all the bullshit betweem those ugly lips of his...
Is the the ultimate example of freedom.
As the article said ; "The honorees, each in HIS OR HER OWN WAY..."
Jack Thompson simply chose a sorry-ass sore-loser way to promote freedom of speech... Or he simply showed us how far it can be abused. My money's on the later.
"My money's on the latter."
Seconded.
I AM A LOST SOUL, CONDEMNED TO HAUNT THE DREAMS OF JOHN BRUCE "JACK" THOMPSON UNTIL HIS CRUSADE AGAINST VIDEO GAMES ENDS. SOMEONE, PLEASE! END MY SUFFERING!
The truth is that this isn't a nationally recognized award. It's a local thing and carries no weight other than an ego boost.
In other words, "it's something for his wank collection." Goes next to his out of print book, his 60 minutes interview and all the VHS recorded copies of times that he has been on TV.
But you know damn well this has completely validated everything he's ever done in Tack Jhompson's (I refuse to call him his actual name, as that gives him at least a little bit of credibilty) mind.
It's merely a bump-in-the-road tiny community that doesn't propperly understand what is going on.
Let's say for a second that you have been cut off from the rest of the world for some time, and only know what is happening in your immediate surroundings. Now J.T. comes up to you and tells you about himself. All you have to go on is his own word. You would think that this man was incredible by his own accounts. He has bravely stood up against people who were trying to hurt families, fought against industries that were trying to corrupt children, and stood proud when the industry bought judges to bring him down. He may even tell you that people have gone so far as to start a mud-slinging campaign against him, so anything you hear negative was either planted by the fat cat industrialists, or is being repeated by those who are believing these slanderous lies. But not to worry, he has just been handed everything he needs to bust this thing wide open.
If you didn't know any better, you might believe him too. Don't hate these people giving him this award, they are the victims here. They just didn't know any better.
I think this really gets to the heart of the matter.
And if you read "A lawyer dedicated to protecting children from violence, obscenity and pornography in the media, was honored especially for his defense and support of families," most of us would probably agree with it.
It's just that those who don't pay attention to the gaming debate, which I'm sure these conservatives don't, they'll just have the info Jack makes available to them.
Unfortunately now we'll have to read Jack constantly bragging about an award with even less clout and relevance than his appearance on 60 Minutes.
On this subject, I made two previous comments (as well as others) in response to John Bruce's bragging about his so-called award. This article, of course, is the more appropriate place for them.
Also, Jabrwock, do a search for other past Freedom Award winners. You'll find that a number of them share a common religious link. Indeed, on the Freedom Festival's website, not only did they tell about Immaculee's struggles, but also defined her as a "Christian". While alone that may seem irrelevant, in congjunction with other past winners (including several religious leaders), and John Bruce, one can see the religious bend toward Freedom Award winners. And, of course, other events also show a specific religious leaning as well. The Children's Parade, for example, whose message was supposed to be about Family Valuse, God, and Country.
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Submitted by nightwng2000 - July 3, 2008 at 7:28 am -0500
John Bruce, first off, I'm not in this fight for glory. Unlike you. I don't seek fame or fortune. Unlike you. And I'm not a bigotted, tin-pot-dictator-wannabe who wants to create a Theocratic Dictatorship. Unlike you.
So, I couldn't care less about such bigotted guttertrash as you or them not wanting to be my "fans". In fact, I believe I've said on a number of occassions that I neither respect or want respect from the likes of you, Fred Phelps, Eric Rudolph, Osama Bin Lauden, or many other dishonorable, unethical, hate mongers.
So your delusional, egotistical, self agrandizing ramblings amount to little more than bile puked up after reading about your placing a child playing violent video games being far more a concern than that same child being verbally, mentally, physically, and nearly sexually abused by their father and step family.
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Submitted by nightwng2000 - July 3, 2008 at 8:10 am -0500
Oh, and additionally, I'd like to point out something from the article you posted, John Bruce.
"...his dedication to the freedom of families through working to get obscenity out of the media."
"...to keep indecent shows off the radio..."
"He also won a case labeling 2 Live Crew's lyrics as obscene and convinced Time Warner to remove Ice T's song "Cop Killer" from stores worldwide. "
These are lines that DIRECTLY PROVE your FALSE claim that you are only trying to keep "harmful" material out of the hands of children only and your FALSE claim that you aren't trying to violate the First Amendment Rights of others. These lines, among MANY others PROVE your FALSE claim that you are a First Amendment Expert and are, in fact, an Anti-Constitutionalist out to dictate your personal and religious beliefs on others individuals and their children, in CLEAR violation of the First Amendment Rights of those individuals and Parents.
At the same time, the Faux Freedom Award you received PROVES that the Freedom Awards are a SHAM and NOT about individuals who risk their lives for Freedom but actually about awarding those who seek to VIOLATE the Freedoms of others in the name of religion.
And since many of your actions involve lying to, deceving, and misinforming others regarding a great many things, then one has to wonder if all those folks celebrating the Christian Patriotism are actually worshippers of Demon-Pretenders-To-The-Throne-Of-Heaven, since no honorable, ethcial God would advocate using lies and deceit, as well as bigotry and hate, as tools to be used.
I wonder if the DoD really knows the TRUTH about the event, The Freedom Festival, they've been helping to finance for so long. Maybe it was time they were told. But then, since they have several openly bigoted high ranking individuals in their midsts, maybe they already know they are illegally financing such a hate filled and fraudulent event.
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I understand this award doesn't have any weight, but it still makes me feel like Hitler was just awarded the Nobel Peace Prize except it's just from some guy named Nobel in Provo, Utah.
-Loudspeaker
"Volume helps to get a point across but sharp teeth are better."
A fringe group gives a fringe award to a fringe individual. Crazy attracts crazy so this makes perfect sense to me.
As others have stated before, nobody even knew of this "award" until now.
And as I will state, nobody will remember this award beyond now.
That's true. They don't even have a stub in Wikipedia.
-- If your wiimote goes snicker-snack, check your wrist-strap...
Nightwng, bro. Decaff.
jackie is simply not worth getting yourself that worked up about.
There are backwards pockets in every society that beleive in odd things (to society at large) and act in odd ways (to society et al). Toss in religion which can be twisted to serve many purposes and you can literally find holes in the fabric is sanity.
jackie got lucky and found one of those holes. He fits in there. Shrug.
Not a thing to be proud of to most of society but then again and apparently most of society are apparently conspiring against him. Honestly I would keep a low profile and not get overly cocky about that award, but jackie has shown again and again that his substance is based on how many times he feels that he has been important (not how many actual times which would not be good for his ego).
In the end though it changes little to nothing. He is still a miserable wannabe excuse for a hero, and life goes on.
Oh, so this is not really some nationally recognized award/venue for honored individuals? No wonder I haven't heard about it, until now.
Calling it "America's Freedom Festival" when it's only recognized in parts of Utah is more misleading than creating a company called "US Cellular" and providing phone service to only 26 states.
Ugh. Jack Thompson souldn't be a hero, he should do everyone a favor and be an hero.
I don't know what you mean by that, but it does remind me of a forum poster way back who used the article "an" inappropriately so many times. Thanks for bringing back fuzzy memories.
It's an Encyclopedia Dramatica thing.
Becoming an Hero basically means making mass drama with rants about the horribleness of life followed by suicide, and all because someone stole your iPod.
Actually neither a hero or an hero is definitively correct, it is all about how you pronounce the word hero. An is used when the word sounds like a vowel rather than a consonant. Personally I say "he-er-ro" rather "ee-er-ro" so would use a instead of an.
In short, being a grammer nazi isn't applicable in this circumstance.
Have you SEEN America's Freedom Foundation (the presenters of America's Freedom Festival) website?
It's all dedicated to exposing the corruption of government and the courts... Their #1 goal is to "Disbar the Bars". So Jack's "crusade" against the Florida Bar is right up their alley. Bad behavior not withstanding.
Not to be confused with the American Freedom Foundation, who's American Freedom Festival (25 Oct 08) honours America's war veterans....
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@Jabrwok
That's a different America's Freedom. Although, just as easily confused with the other America's Freedom. Both seem to be chock-full of right-wing, Flag-waving, Bible-thumping zealots.
Wait, so there's two America's Freedom Foundations? Is that even legal?
-- If your wiimote goes snicker-snack, check your wrist-strap...
Yep, there's two of them, both with the exact same name (and, arguably, the exact same agenda). Maybe not, not if one of them has a registered trademark or servicemark on the name.
Well of course he's getting the reward, then..
That site is nothing but scaremongering conspiracy-theories that try to point everyone else as being corrupt, satanic and honorless, and quote/link to random news stories that don't even coincide with their theories.
Yes, I went there, and it's riddled with lies, idiodicy, and spelling and grammatical errors. One of my "favorite" excerpts:
Note: All bolded words are spelling errors.
Are our fundamental, bible believing, right wing, conservative, Christians. Now trying to takeover our entire government & turn America into a fundamentalist Christian nation. Click hear for shocking details!
Corrections:
"Christians. Now" should be "christians now"
"nation" should be "nation?"
"hear" should be "here"
Jeez, if these guys want to be serious, they could at least hire some better writers. Also, they have an article about how regionally acclaimed university grads are dumber than when they first enrolled. Their entire group probably consists of those very same types of people.
From the site:
"An exclusive nationwide investigation has uncovered that the worst fears of the founders of his nation have come true. That professional lawyers would betray our nation, steal our money, undermine our freedoms, and destroy our liberty. To accomplish this these lawyers first created a monopoly on the practice of law."
And they give Jack Thompson an award for freedom. From a group of people who have a crappy-looking website with lots of spelling errors, I doubt anyone can take this award seriously.
LOL - nice find!
Well, I'm guessing that they see it as him going up against the "Establishment" in the form of his fight against the Bar which does qualify him as a freedom fighter who's trying to break said monopoly...
But hey, on the plus side, dude cleans up real nice in his three-piece suit. Jack should brush down his hair more often; I always find it easier to disagree with him when it's going all over the place, crazy-homeless-person style.
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The Mammon Industry
I've got twenty bucks on Jack's next legal filing containing "Thompson, who was recently honored with a Freedom Award by the America's Freedon Festival, blah blah, blah . . . ." It may even replace "Thompson, who was recently interviewed by Ed Bradley on 60 Minutes, blah, blah, blah . . . ." as his favorite claim to fame.
And the press coverage of the Award -- which I suspect was derived from Jack's self-supplied information -- erroneously states that he was successful in having 2 Live Crew's As Nasty As They Wanna Be declared obscene, leaving out the all-important "reversed on appeal" part.
They seem to have some sustainable claim to being the largest Fourth of July celebration in the United States. Although, what's being measured as the "largest" isn't entirely clear to me. Attendance? Amount of fireworks discharged? Number of numb-nuts who recieve a Freedom Award? Who knows?
Poor Immaulee Ilibagiza. It's never easy being the token Black person.
Whoopdee fuckin' doo. Jackoff gets a douche award.
-If shit and bricks were candy and tits, we'd all be livin' large. For information on games and psychology, look up: Jonathan Freedman(2002)Block & Crain(2007)Grand Theft Childhood, by Harvard Medical School researchers Larry Kutner and Cheryl Olson
speaking of douche-awards:
"Here he is, the Biggest Douche of the Universe,
In all the galaxies, there's no bigger douche than you.
You've reached the top, the pinnacle of douchedom,
Good going douche, your dreams have come true!"
岩「…Ace beats Jack」
The question you have to ask yourself really is, would anyone in this board have known or cared about Thompson getting this award if Thompson himself had not lauded himself for it in as many places as possible beforehand?
There's a lesson to be learned there.
Meh, it's Utah, maybe Jack can share a room with Glenn Beck and other morality crusading morons.
Although I agree that Thompson is a poor choice for the award, I don't think it's right to belittle the award or ceremony because they selected him.
OTHER than Jack, the selected individuals are very worthy and remarkable people; I was moved by the story of the pilot who was rescued, barely survived the hospital stay, and then jumped right back into a plane when he was done with therapy.
Reading the article, all it lists is Thompson's victories over the music and radio industry. Whatever you can say about his professional history or video game crusade, Howard Stern made a lot of Conservatives mad, and getting him off the air is a huge point in Thompson's favor (for them).
Sure, he doesn't really deserve it, but it makes sense to me that these people would be willing to look at his achievements in the past and ignore all the more recent clamor (including his growing incontinence), even if people try to point it out to them. The awards certainly didn't try to take a stance on video games.
Of course, I could be wrong, and this could just be the Awards' way of taking a quick jab in the culture war using their ceremony as a platform. But three-fourths of that ceremony looked right fine to me.
With the understanding that Jack has *no* acheivements in the past to credit him with being anything remotely for freedom in the slightest. He has crusade after crusade to smash apart and cripple the First Amendment, of which, Video Games are only is most recent tirade.
And as others pointed out, Jack didn't get Stern off the air, except for on one radio station which was a bit extremist anyway and was looking for a reason to get him thrown off.
"I'm not responcabel fer my comuter's spleling errnors." -- Xlorep DarkHelm
Wow, apparently if you say it enough times, a lie becomes the truth.
Jack Thompson did not get Howard Stern off public airwaves. Whenevr Thompson says it he makes it sound like he got Stern kicked off all terrestrial radio everywhere.
He helped get him off of one station in Orlando. And this was a Clear Channel station, they had already been looking for an excuse to get rid of him (Clear Channel has an unapologetic neocon ethos as well as being borderline monopolists).
true, I read that Stern left the rest of the public airwaves because he was running out of ideas at the time. It's just coincidence that when he re-emerged that it was on satellite radio.
岩「…Ace beats Jack」
Very true. Howard is arguably bigger, better and raunchier than ever since he went to Sirius satellite. So he hasn't gone away. In fact, Howard is laughing all the way to the bank. But in Thompson's mind, if he can't be heard on regular radio, then he simply doesn't exist.
Incidentally, shortly after Howard went there, JT had apparently tried to call the FCC on him again for doing the same things on satellite that he did on terrestrial radio. That complaint went nowhere and Thompson has seemed to have given up after that. But that little stunt proved that it wasn't enough for Howard to be off regular radio and just on satellite. He wanted him gone completely.
Local governments are run by idiots.
I'm happy the constitution is there to protect us from people like Jack Thompson.
Jesus said, be not as the hypocrite. Jack, are you listening?
he probably isn't, as the personal sacrifice for "the kingdom of heaven" Jesus was talking about when he told his disciples, "He that is able to receive it, let him receive it" is to castrate oneself (Matthew 19:11-12) and we all know he never did that.
Tragically, every year there are reported cases of Christian followers mutilating themselves because "the bible tells me so."
岩「…Ace beats Jack」
I think we should all take a moment to remember the wonderful film, BasketBall.
"Where the hell are you from?"
"Utah."
"oh.... I'm sorry..."
I think that was Orgazmo.
These conservatives have absolutly NO idea what the word freedom means. Jack Thompson is AGAINST freedom, he HATES freedom, he promotes forceful censorship and tyrany and tries to pass that off as "freedom" because everybody loves that word.
Jack, what you preach is authoritarian censorship, which is totally on the other end of the scale. Go ahead and play your martyr card, I will play the worlds smallest violin for you.
Wake up, you are an abusive conservative bully who slanders and/or sues everybody that doesn't agree with you (which is an overwhelming majority of the western world) weather he be a employer, employee, lawyer, judge or politician.
For the record, not all conservatives, and I'd even argue that not even the majority of conservatives hold views even remotely like this group does.
"I'm not responcabel fer my comuter's spleling errnors." -- Xlorep DarkHelm
To be fair, there's no one definition of "conservative", because a bunch of non-progressive far-left radicals have stolen the word and redefined it.
There's one actual Conservative in government, and he's Ron Paul. His views haven't changed much in the 40 years he's been in the congress. That's pretty much the definition of conservative. Any defintion of conservative that requres the government to act differently than it has for the past 200 years, is inherently left-wing, in the classical sense that it means bringing about change.
I think I can understand why Dennis is so interested in this, let's face it, Jack has been a proverbial thorn in his paw for a great deal of time now. What I don't quite understand is why it's the subject of so much speculation to the rest of us. Let's face it, it's not a crime to be a jerk to those around you or we could've locked him up by now, (likely me as well). Nor is it a crime to honor people who are jerks to those around them.
Their credibility is their own to trash. If they want to give one of these awards to Jack they're within their rights to, and he's entitled to receive. However, at the risk of going all Bradbury, actions have downstream consequences. If they want to give one of these "Freedom Awards" to Jack I wouldn't want to wipe my butt with whatever's left of the value of that award. I'd put more stake in the value of the free prize I got in a box of corn flakes last week. I mean really, if they wanted to ruin the program couldn't they just embezzle the money and take off for a non-extradition treaty country?
Now, I think I read some comments somewhere along the line implying that this is a federally funded program, ergo, we have a vested interest in seeing that these awards go to worthy recipients. However, I would argue that somewhere, some federal funds are being spent just about every five seconds of every day. That doesn't mean any of us can do anything about it. Let's face it. Say we did want to do something about it, and we took up a petition for the festivals organizer's asking either why he's getting the award, or requesting it be given to someone more worthy. What do you suppose would happen? The festival's organizers would track the petition back to us, call us gamers and biased, and ignore it. Either that or call Jackie and he'd call us gamers and biased and tell them to ignore it.
My suggestion? Sit back. Enjoy the quiet time. While Jackie's in utah at least we know that he's not off somewhere killing some other judge's fax machine with motions that only make sense to him.
Is it me or is the word Freedom used as a corporation label rather than the real definition of term?
Because the last time I check, Freedom is the state of being free and not enslaved. Jack Thompson isn't exactly a freedom fighter, more like a extremist like in the Middle East. Cause let me tell you, them and Jack Thompson have alot in common except for the term of killing but it's sorta the same thing, they both benefit or get negative reactions from deaths involving violence.
well, II Corinthians 10:5 states "Bring into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ." As a result, bible-thumpers like Jack sound a lot like tyrants to me.
岩「…Ace beats Jack」
And I'm sure there's another passage that contradicts that, kinda like how the Bible says "an eye for an eye" but then says "turn the other cheek" and "vengeance is mine, sayith the lord". People will take what they will. PLEASE NOTE THAT I AM NOT CRITICISING CHRISTIANITY OR IT'S PRACTITIONERS.
-If shit and bricks were candy and tits, we'd all be livin' large. For information on games and psychology, look up: Jonathan Freedman(2002)Block & Crain(2007)Grand Theft Childhood, by Harvard Medical School researchers Larry Kutner and Cheryl Olson
I'm not too sure, but I do know that the eye-for-eye thing was about when two men are fighting an