Stopped at Courthouse Door, Jack Thompson Says He Will Sue U.S. Marshal

July 9, 2008 -

 

Embattled Miami attorney Jack Thompson filed yet another federal lawsuit against the Florida Bar yesterday.

The far more interesting development, however, is Thompson's allegation that he was denied entry to the federal court building in Miami by U.S. Marshals. In an e-mail court filing this morning, Thompson says that he intends to file a federal civil rights action against Chief Judge Federico Moreno and U.S. Marshal Christina Pharo of the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Florida.

Here is Thompson's version, which also includes additional information on the cautionary visit paid to his residence by a pair of U.S. Marshals last month (a story broken by GamePolitics):

The [US Marshal and the Chief Judge] have undertaken to surveil me and then harass me because of my whistle-blowing...  The two Deputy Marshals who came to my home on June 17... told me that they have been monitoring me for quite sometime because “we have been told you are at the end of your rope and might be a danger to the physical safety of others.” 

 

...When I showed up at the federal courthouse yesterday... the harassment intensified.  When I presented my [ID] I was immediately (not after checking any list) informed that “You have been disbarred.”  I pointed out to the Deputy Marshal that that was news to me...  It is absolutely patently clear that these people were waiting for me.

 

The Deputy Marshall, Willie Bell, then proceeded to berate me when I asked why I was not allowed to enter a public place, the Clerk’s Office, after passing through all of the security scanners, etc.  He told me, “You just want an audience Mr. Thompson.”  I informed him, “No, I simply want to file a civil complaint in the Clerk’s Office.”

 

Mr. Bell, who apparently was instructed to harass me rather than just accompany me... continued to berate me personally, and he trapped me in the elevator to further harass me, which detention constituted a false imprisonment. 

Additional details of the incident (from Thompson's perspective) are to be found in a document filed with the U.S. District Court by Thompson yesterday:

When plaintiff showed up at the federal courthouse today... he was met by federal Deputy Marshals who... informed him that he could not enter the building alone because “Mr. Thompson, you have been disbarred.”

 

...Deputy Marshal (or whatever his title might be) Mr. Willie Bell told Thompson that he would be escorted to the clerk’s office for security reasons...

 

Mr. Bell then proceeded to berate Thompson... but in doing so Mr. Bell made it clear that his job was not just to escort Thompson... His job was to harass Thompson and make the filing of this complaint just about as difficult as it could be... 

 

...the incredible rudeness and extra-legal assigned duties of the US Marshal’s Mr. Bell makes it clear that some communications of some kind have emanated downward from the Chief Judge to the US Marshal... which has “poisoned the well” of this entire federal district court. It is not paranoia to assert such a thing... somebody who is in charge of this federal district court wants to mess with Jack Thompson...

Thompson writes that he is seeking $10 million dollars for the new claim.

GP: Thompson is playing a dangerous hand. While he claims that a conspiracy against him is afoot, it now seems clear that his behavior has some officials concerned that he is a potential security risk. In this regard we note Thompson's own version of a comment he claims was made by U.S. Marshals who paid him a visit last month: We have been told you are at the end of your rope and might be a danger to the physical safety of others.

Funniest Line: Since Mr. Bell apparently had to share an elevator with Thompson while escorting him to the 8th floor, Thompson claims this is "false imprisonment."
 


Comments

Re: Stopped at Courthouse Door, Jack Thompson Says He Will Sue

He kinda reminds me of those players of RTS' who only use the tank rush because its the only thing they know how to do. They keep doing it no matter how often or overwhelmingly they're defeated and always think "I'd have won if I only had a few more tanks!"

Re: Stopped at Courthouse Door, Jack Thompson Says He Will Sue

Aliasalpha,

Well, I would've!

Re: Stopped at Courthouse Door, Jack Thompson Says He Will Sue

It's three strikes, but old wacko here is batting .001 (out of 1000 times at bat he's only have 1 hit.)

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Re: Stopped at Courthouse Door, Jack Thompson Says He Will Sue

And that one hit was later changed to an error by the official scorer.

Re: Stopped at Courthouse Door, Jack Thompson Says He Will Sue

Let's all remember that Jack's definitions of "berate" and "harrassment" are likely to be wildly different from the average reasonable persons (the standard usually used in these kinds of cases)

"Mr. Thompson, I respectfully disagree with your conclusions"

"YOU'RE HARRASING ME!!  THIS IS ANTI-CHRISTIAN DISCRIMINATION!! SLANDER! LIBEL!!!  I'LL SUE!!!"

As for the idea that being in an elevator constitutes false imprisonnment.  Unless Jack is STILL in that elevator...I'm gonna say...no.

Re: Stopped at Courthouse Door, Jack Thompson Says He Will Sue

“As for the idea that being in an elevator constitutes false imprisonnment.” 

What episode of 'Law and Order' is that from now?

Re: Stopped at Courthouse Door, Jack Thompson Says He Will Sue

I dare people to say hello to him on the street while wearing a shirt that indicates being a gamer

Re: Stopped at Courthouse Door, Jack Thompson Says He Will Sue

Bonus points if the shirt is "GTA made me do it."

Re: Stopped at Courthouse Door, Jack Thompson Says He Will Sue

Wear that one from Tim Buckley that has a game controller doesn't equal a firearm. That should piss him off.

"The Good, the Bad, and the Videogame" Reviews on the best, worst, and controversial issues of Videogames. gryphonosiris.blogspot.com/

Re: Stopped at Courthouse Door, Jack Thompson Says He Will Sue

Remember when he was complaining about having less rights then military prisoners at big G?  Maybe this explains it, maybe he thinks Guantanemo is a series of elevators.

"Even if it was online gaming that somehow inspired him to kill his parents, he must have realised at some point that they wouldn't drop any good loot." - GP member, Doomsong

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Re: Editorial: Jack Thompson a Curious Choice for Freedom Award

THIS HAD TO BE REPRINTED BECAUSE THIS LETTER WAS APPARENTLY SENT BEFORE THE INCIDENT AT THE COURTHOUSE YESTERDAY WHICH DENNIS WROTE ABOUT TODAY.

MAYBE THIS GUY HAS A POINT AND THEY ARE REALLY RIGHT ABOUT WATCHING JACK, MAYBE HE HAS GONE FROM BEING A JOKE TO A REAL DANGER TO GAMERS AND OTHERS.

on the legal blog in broward county.............. [balance of this post deleted]

GP: Sorry, but... I much prefer to keep families out of these discussions (even though Jack sometimes drags his son into his antics).

Also, those are some very sensitive allegations. I don't think this is the place...

 

Re: Stopped at Courthouse Door, Jack Thompson Says He Will Sue

Agreed.

That's quite the low blow.  Would JT pull something like this?  Maybe.  However, I feel that's even low for him.  He's gone after those in front of him (the judges dealing with his disbarment as a reference).

Let us as upstanding citizens who are also gamers take the high road and stay away from such tactics.  The man is being disbarred.  Do we REALLY need to take this fight further?  I for one don't believe so.  He's losing his livelyhood and the badge of courage that is his law license.  That should be enough justice for anyone who calls themselves a gamer.

-Loudspeaker
"Volume helps to get a point across but sharp teeth are better."

"Volume helps to get a point across but sharp teeth are better."

Re: Stopped at Courthouse Door, Jack Thompson Says He Will Sue

I read the letter in question at another site yesterday.  Frankly, I had thought it was posted as more of a joke at Thompson's expense.  If that letter WAS actually sent, then I think that was overstepping the boundaries of good taste and decorum.  Dennis was right to delete it, as there's no need to stoop to Jack's level to defeat him.

Re: Stopped at Courthouse Door, Jack Thompson Says He Will Sue

Man, Jacko is circling the toilet so fast my head is spinning.

Jack, let it go man, you're embaressing your self, and your family.

On a serious note, if i was Jacks 'boss' (i know, choice of words), i'd be SERIOUSLY worried about this guys mental health.

Anyone else think its ironic, that this guy that has been bitching about 'pixilanties' and the threat they pose to society, is now being barred by the fricking US Marshalls because they fear hes a threat to public safety.

Re: Stopped at Courthouse Door, Jack Thompson Says He Will Sue

Oh my lord, he never stops being funny does he?  What a human freakshow - good god. Thank you Jack, you make me feel well-adjusted.

"Even if it was online gaming that somehow inspired him to kill his parents, he must have realised at some point that they wouldn't drop any good loot." - GP member, Doomsong

Re: Stopped at Courthouse Door, Jack Thompson Says He Will Sue

Anonymous:

Actually, they skip a lot of JT press releases. Kotaku decided to run one the other day that GP skipped. You see a lot of news about him here, but they still skip him most of the time.

And we all need a little insane humor from time to time.

Edit: Sorry, I forgot that we have a reply button now. Anywy, you can tell pretty easily who this is a reply to.

Re: Stopped at Courthouse Door, Jack Thompson Says He Will Sue

There's a 'reply' button for a reason, you know.

Re: Stopped at Courthouse Door, Jack Thompson Says He Will Sue

This is a Federal building. Surely security cameras would be in every corridor and elevator ? Would there not be videotape at least of this alleged beratement ?

Re: Stopped at Courthouse Door, Jack Thompson Says He Will Sue

I would imagine so, but it doesn't matter what the tqpes show, they'll have been "edited."

I've seen store customers and shoplifters pull that card before.

Re: Stopped at Courthouse Door, Jack Thompson Says He Will Sue

I was just about to say that. 

"The world if full of stupid people....watch out."

Re: Stopped at Courthouse Door, Jack Thompson Says He Will Sue

Jack Thompson is such a schlemiel.

 

. . Wisdom begins in wonder. - Socrates . .

. . Wisdom begins in wonder. - Socrates . .

Re: Stopped at Courthouse Door, Jack Thompson Says He Will Sue

Is this a gaming site or a Jack Thompson site? Yes, I know his link to video games, but why does the gaming press insist on reporting every time this guy farts? Enough already, stop giving him a pulpit!

Re: Stopped at Courthouse Door, Jack Thompson Says He Will Sue

1) Of the 15 stories currently on the front page, one is a Jack Thompson story.

2) This story is not giving him a pulpit.  If anything, it's casting him in a rather negative light.

3) If you don't like them, don't read them.  And certainly don't comment on them as it just increases traffic and indicates that more Jack Thompson stories are wanted.

 

Re: Stopped at Courthouse Door, Jack Thompson Says He Will Sue

Great logic. Saying that I'm tired of reading about him tells people that I want to read more about him.

As to everyone who thinks covering this guy is great, you enjoy it for the same reason you'd probably laugh at a little old lady slipping on ice and breaking her hip, you want to feel better about your pathetic lives by laughing at someone who is in even worse condition than you are.

As far as the author having personal relationship with JT, that doesn't make this his personal bully pulpit. The site is called GAMEPolitics, and that article had nothing to do with games and everything to do with kicking dirt in the face of someone.

Lest any of you be confused (because some of you apparently have a reading and comprehension problems), I am not defending JT in any way. I'm just tired of seeing ANY coverage of him (whether it's 1 out of 15 or 150).

I keep reading how this site has some of the most intelligent readers. Responses to my post would seem to indicate otherwise. Too bad this wasn't a face-to-face conversation, I bet most of you wouldn't be so lippy.

Re: Stopped at Courthouse Door, Jack Thompson Says He Will Sue

Hmmm.  Review site name.  GamePolitics.  Two parts there.  Review masthead.  Slogan: "Where games and politics collide."

Given the considerable political involvement, voluntary and involuntary, that has been brought to bear in these matters re: Mr. Thompson and his war on games, I'd say articles about this matter are on topic for this board.

 

Re: Stopped at Courthouse Door, Jack Thompson Says He Will Sue

I love how you say "As far as the author having personal relationship with JT, that doesn't make this his personal bully pulpit." when the author is none other than Dennis, the man that pays for and operates the site. Last time I checked, when you're the one paying for a website and you're the one that maintains it, you can do whatever the hell you want with it. Your logic is really flawed in that statement.

As far as liking articles about JT for the same reason that I would like watching an old lady break her hip by slipping on the ice, you're sadly mistaken. I like articles about JT because JT is the biggest enemy of the video game industry. I use the word enemy because he's not simply a critic, a critic is the PTC or a politician that says the industry could use reform despite being uneducated. Jack goes way beyond that to the point of personal insults and attacks against anyone who disagrees with him. Articles like this let us know what is happening to a HUGE person in the political spectrum of the gaming industry. Any enjoyment that I get from it is based on the fact that all of his attacks and lies are being used to his disadvantage for once and that karma is finally getting back at him.

Re: Stopped at Courthouse Door, Jack Thompson Says He Will Sue

Considering that the trail for his disbarrment relied heavily on testimony and evidence from various video game cases Jack has tried, the continuing saga of his disbarment does fall into the arena of "GAMEpolitics".

Not that you bothered to look, since you obviously hate JT stories, but GP actually skipped over most of the testimony relating to non-videogame cases when he covered the bar trial.  In other words, he left out anything not directly relating to "games".

--- "Life's short and hard, like a body building elf." -- The Bloodhound Gang

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Re: Stopped at Courthouse Door, Jack Thompson Says He Will Sue

The logic is actually rather sound.  The Thompson stories on this site always generate the most comments (even when Jack doesn't post) and I would assume the most click throughs.  This would indicate that there are people who want these stories.

And it's nice to see you use perfect JT-isms in your post -- get called out on your post so turn around and call everyone names.  Nice work.

Re: Stopped at Courthouse Door, Jack Thompson Says He Will Sue

Actually Tony Selby is spot on with his logic.

Why did you even bother leaving a comment if you didn't want to deal with more JT news?  Or is it you just didn't see the "Contact Us" button.  Either way your logic fails "Anonymous".  BTW having that as your name defeats all of your arguments if you can't even put a screen name to your comments.

I agree you aren't defending JT, but you are using many JTisms.  You continue to post yet your argument is counter to your posting.

As many have already said...  If you don't like it you can either:

A) Not read the article (You did have to click to get here)

B) Start your own blog

Honestly from what you've written here you obviously just like to complain and troll.  Find another bridge please.  We already have a professional troll who goes by JT.  It's the one thing he does well.

-Loudspeaker
"Volume helps to get a point across but sharp teeth are better."

"Volume helps to get a point across but sharp teeth are better."

Re: Stopped at Courthouse Door, Jack Thompson Says He Will Sue

Jack Thompson has been at the forefront of the political assault on gaming culture since well before this site went live. With past ties to the Clinton camp, as well as past (now soured) relationships with groups such as NIMF, television appearances on 60 Minutes and Fox, he is absolutely relevant to the discussion on the political influence on the gaming world.  Stories like this, which call into question his credibility and competence (not to mention his sanity) in that regard should be reported and should not be quashed.


 

Re: Stopped at Courthouse Door, Jack Thompson Says He Will Sue

hehe  Anonymous says don't be lippy.  :)

I mostly skip to the Jack Thompson stories.  Don't know where else this is covered.  I'm certainly not tired of them.

Re: Stopped at Courthouse Door, Jack Thompson Says He Will Sue

Good God, you're right!!!  What was GP thinking?  ONE Jack Thompson story amongst the FIFTEEN current front page stories?  And then having the gall to, as of this post, have two stories higher up on the page???  It's a veritable Thompson fest!?!?!?!?!  </sarcasm>

Seriously though...  It's 1 out of 15.  You can do math right?  That's a very small percentage.  GP has been doing a LOT more stories on things like the ECA and E3 lately, but I don't see anyone decrying them and saying that's all he reports on.  If you don't like JT stories, don't read them.  Read about Fallout 3 being banned in Australia, or the Feds and their mod chip case.  There's plenty of other stuff on the site.

--- "Life's short and hard, like a body building elf." -- The Bloodhound Gang

--- "Life's short and hard, like a body building elf." -- The Bloodhound Gang

Re: Stopped at Courthouse Door, Jack Thompson Says He Will Sue

Oh yes, one story a week average. That's TOTAL SATURATION.

Dude, the person who runs this site has personal history with Thompson spanning several years. Barely anyone else raises a finger to give him any coverage unless there's a shooting or he somehow gets on TV for being the loudest monkey.

tl;dr version: You're over-reacting. Don't like what you see here, don't read it.

Re: Stopped at Courthouse Door, Jack Thompson Says He Will Sue

Insane or not, Thompson is a focal point in the weird and wonderful crossover world of videogaming and politics. I enjoy the coverage, not because I enjoy watching the sad breakdown of a pathetic little man (although I suppose on some level I do) but because as Thompson flails ever more wildly, his previous criticisms, even before he went completely nuts, become increasingly suspect. His self-inflicted destruction is good for gamers and the industry, and the more coverage it gets, the better.

 

 

Re: Stopped at Courthouse Door, Jack Thompson Says He Will Sue

In case you didn't notice, he farted about Judge Tunis just yesterday, and GP ignored it.

Really, GP doesn't report on Jack nearly as much as whiners like you claim. Particularly these days.

-Gray17

-Gray17

Re: Stopped at Courthouse Door, Jack Thompson Says He Will Sue

people complain about the jack thompson articles, however, even in the ones which Jack doesn't reply they are the highest commented on articles on the site, so obviously there are some people that care

if you don't like reading the Jack articles, then skip them, posting your complaints shows interest in the story, which in turn means only that there will be more jack articles to come

Re: Stopped at Courthouse Door, Jack Thompson Says He Will Sue

Funny, when Jack Thompson acts like a dick to others it's perfectly alright, but when people "supposedly" act like dicks towards him it's worth $10 million. I seem to recall there being something about "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" in that book you like so much.

Re: Stopped at Courthouse Door, Jack Thompson Says He Will Sue

The book that Jack claims to love and yet, never acts like.  Gg Thompson, gg indeed.

Re: Stopped at Courthouse Door, Jack Thompson Says He Will Sue

This kinda reminds me of auto claims comedy scetch. "I ran into him while waving to the guy I ran into last week." Only it would be "I started this lawsuit while I was going to court to file another lawsuit."

Looks like he was trying to get in the court house and they had been informed no to let him in. The whole detained thing sound more like he was forcing his way in. He even repeatedly mentions they didn't have to check a list. Yes they have been warned about you, why wouldn't they have been with the way you have been acting?

I found this part funny: "if it happens again, a legal response will be made." And this law suit is what?

 I'm curious what would be so bad he wouldn't put it in the complaint, when we are talking about a guy who files gay porn in his filings.

"It is not paranoia to assert such a thing. It would be insane not to assert it." I'm the only sane personin here. It's obvious everyone else is out to get me!

"...and he trapped me in the elevator to further harass me, which detention constituted a false imprisonment."  What actually happened here? How long were you "trapped"? Did you hit the wrong floor and have to wait for the elevator to get back to you floor? Or was the elevator locked, with you trapped in it for 5 hours and you had to climb out the top, Jack Baurer style climbing up the cables to your freedom? Why do I feel it is more of the former then the latter? Oh, maybe because JT has constantly lied and used gross exageration in all of his statements. He puts P.T. Barnum to shame.

Re: Stopped at Courthouse Door, Jack Thompson Says He Will Sue

All I can say is that I agree with GP on what the funniest line is.

-Gray17

-Gray17

Re: Stopped at Courthouse Door, Jack Thompson Says He Will Sue

I suppose my biggest question is: is thompson currently disbarred for legal purpose before the time period for disbarrment is determined?

If he  has bar aproval at present then I could see why his frustration has merit. If not then he should have contacted a lawyer to go through the procedings of a lawsuit on his behalf.

Re: Stopped at Courthouse Door, Jack Thompson Says He Will Sue

At this point, Thompson is starting to sound like the Weird Al Yankovic song "I'll Sue Ya."

SUE!  SUE!  Yeah, I'm gonna SUE!

SUE!  SUE!  Yeah, I'm gonna SUE YA!!!

I found the latest Tunis complaint to be a bit more interesting, however.  Apparently the whole Oath of Office accusation didn't stick, so now he's trying to claim Tunis found him guilty and then not guilty on the same count (specifically, "Making statements that the lawyer knows to be false or with reckless disregard as to the truth or falsity concerning the qualifications or integrity of a judge.")  However, as as pointed out in the forums, this count was filed in two separate complaints: one by Blank Rome and the other by Judge Moore himself.  Since Tunis already found Thompson guilty in Moore's filing, there was no reason to find him guilty for the exact same thing in Blank Rome's filing.  Hence the "not guilty" verdict in the latter (Again, as pointed out in the forums, to do so would fall into the realm of "double jeopardy.")

It's a typical Thompson tactic: make a confident-sounding BS statement, gambling on that no one will bother to fact-check it.  This might work on the media or the average person, as more often then not they won't or can't be bothered to wade through the details to verify if what he is saying is true.  But Thompson forgets he is dealing with other lawyers here, and they have a better grasp of the law than he does.

Also Thompson reiterates Judge Tunis' behavior at the end of the 2007 trial, referring to her as a "raving wild woman".  A charge that Norm Kent, who was present and whose word I will take over Thompson's any day, says did not happen.  If Thompson had been canny like he used to be in the old days and just made his charge about Tunis' rulings and left it at that, he might have stood a chance and gotten away with it.  But no, he didn't leave it at that.  And chances are his outrageous statements about her will be remembered more than his statements about her rulings.

So Jack, I ask again, if you say it won't be such a big deal if you lost your license as you will continue your "crusade" anyway, then why are you fighting so hard and trying every underhanded trick you can think of to keep it?

Black Manta, Who May Not be an Attorney, but Understands the Law Better Than Jack Does

Re: Stopped at Courthouse Door, Jack Thompson Says He Will Sue

I don't know if he ment it, but I think Weird Al was writing about Thompson when he wrote that song.

Re: Stopped at Courthouse Door, Jack Thompson Says He Will Sue

You know, if some guy sent me a picture of a bombed out building and said my workplace would look like that...figuratively speaking, and then said his "mistake" was to NOT kill 3,000 people, well guess what? I'd want some extra security and someone keeping a tight watch on him too. I don't blame these guys at all for doing this and quite frankly I'm surprised they weren't harsher on him.

Re: Stopped at Courthouse Door, Jack Thompson Says He Will Sue

One one level this is really really funny.  However, I also think that this is really sad.  I wonder if Jacko actually is "at the end of his rope."  THis kind of behavior is not healthy.

 

 

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Re: Stopped at Courthouse Door, Jack Thompson Says He Will Sue

I just love how every U.S marshall is telling him of the evil plan that they are out to get him. "Yes we were told to harrass you" REALY??? Common Jack the first rule of the shadow government is to not tell anyone about it. And some how I doubt the door man at the court house will need to check a list to know Jack's been disbarred. I'm sure he and every other person knows who Jack is and the only part of the story the is missing is that Mr. Bell was still wearing his party hat when he spoke to Jack.

Re: Stopped at Courthouse Door, Jack Thompson Says He Will Sue

Discovering the truth is easy when you paraphrase as what you want to hear.

Re: Stopped at Courthouse Door, Jack Thompson Says He Will Sue

I'm curious, if he's filing suit, isn't he technically violating the ruling that he can't file things with the florida courts if not signed by someone else?

Still, I can imagine his frustration, he hasn't officially been disbarred yet, iirc, it's only been advised so far, with the definate ruling to follow (feel free to correct me if I'm mistaken). Besides that apparently his name is immediately recognised as belonging to someone they'd rather not see. And this time by 'actual human beings' rather than '<insert Thompson's slurs about gamers here>'. Worse than that, they're a form of enforcement officer, which are supposed to be for him to sic on others, not to be used against him.

Other than that, 1 thing here really does shock me: he's actually following through on his threats to sue someone. I mean, in the past few years, how many people here have had that very claim thrown at them? Or people anywhere, for that matter. Hundreds?

 

Re: Stopped at Courthouse Door, Jack Thompson Says He Will Sue

That ruling only applies the Supreme Court of Florida.  This is a Federal Court.

Re: Stopped at Courthouse Door, Jack Thompson Says He Will Sue

Really, what does this have to do with video games or anything else. I'm just really tired of reading the Misadventures of Jack Thompson

 
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Andrew EisenNow, having said that, what sites are you reading that are claiming that if "you self-identify as a Gamer, you're immediately the problem" or that gamers are "obligated to stop harassment"? Or was that hyperbole too?09/21/2014 - 1:03am
Andrew EisenFirst of all, ONE person in the Shout box suggested an obligation to call harassers out on their harassing but only after YOU brought it up. Plus, Techno said "when you see it happening." If you don't see it, you're not under any obligation.09/21/2014 - 1:02am
Sleaker@Craig R. - at this point I don't even know what the hashtags are suppsed to be in support of. what does GamerGate actually signify.09/21/2014 - 12:21am
Sleaker@AE - Hyperbole for the first 2, but it seems like some of the comments in the shout are attempting to place blame on fellow gamers because they aren't actively telling people to stop harassing even though they don't necessarily know anyone that has.09/21/2014 - 12:16am
Andrew EisenSleaker - Who the heck are you reading that is claiming "all gamers are bad," we "need to pass laws or judgement on all gamers," that if "you self-identify as a Gamer, you're immediately the problem," or that gamers are "obligated to stop harassment"?09/20/2014 - 9:44pm
erthwjimhe swatted more than just krebs, I think he swatted 30 people http://krebsonsecurity.com/2014/05/teen-arrested-for-30-swattings-bomb-threats/09/20/2014 - 9:31pm
Craig R.Btw, the guy who swatted security expert Brian Krebs? He got picked up recently. It can be done.09/20/2014 - 8:55pm
Craig R.Such things are not done in a vacuum... hence why the 4chan and other logs show what fools you've all been, tricked into doing the trolls' work09/20/2014 - 8:49pm
Sleaker@Technogeek - How do you call someone out that anonymously calls in a SWAT team, or sends threats to people?09/20/2014 - 7:04pm
Technogeek"It also doesn't mean you're obligated to stop harassment from all gamers that are doing so." I'd say you're certainly obligated to call them out when you see it happening.09/20/2014 - 5:17pm
SleakerNow if you disagree with anything in my last 2 posts then we obviously have a difference in world view, and wont come to any sort of agreement. I'm fine with that, maybe some people aren't?09/20/2014 - 5:09pm
SleakerIt also doesn't mean that just because a news outlet says that Gamers are the problem and you self-identify as a Gamer, you're immediately the problem. It also doesn't mean you're obligated to stop harassment from all gamers that are doing so.09/20/2014 - 4:59pm
SleakerJust to re-iterate: People getting harassed is wrong. Just because someone is harassed by so called 'gamers' doesn't mean that all gamers are bad. nor does it mean that you need to pass laws or judgement on all gamers.09/20/2014 - 4:56pm
SleakerAnd furthermore just because someone doesn't 'crusade against the evil' that doesn't make them the problem. You can have discussion with those around you. There's a thing called sphere of influence.09/20/2014 - 4:54pm
Sleaker@Conster - one person getting harassed is a 'problem' only so far as the harassee's are doing it. Just because a select few people choose to act like this doesn't make it widespread. Nor does it immediately make everyone responsible to put an end to it.09/20/2014 - 4:54pm
james_fudgeno worries09/20/2014 - 4:15pm
TechnogeekI misread james' comment as "we can't have a debate without threatening" there at first. Actually wound up posting a shout about death threats and "kill yourself" not technically being the same thing before I realized.09/20/2014 - 3:59pm
james_fudgeDon't hit me *cowers behind Andrew*09/20/2014 - 3:20pm
ConsterYou take that back right now, james, or else. *shakes fist menacingly*09/20/2014 - 3:00pm
james_fudgeOur community is awesome. We can have a debate without threatening to kill each other.09/20/2014 - 2:50pm
 

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