We Have the Judge's Report Recommending PERMANENT DISBARMENT for Jack Thompson

July 9, 2008 -

Hot off the press... Be warned - it's a 169-page pdf file.

Get it here.

UPDATE: In addition to her recommendation that Jack Thompson be permanently disbarred with no opportunity for reinstatement, Judge Tunis recommends an assessment of $43,675 for the costs incurred by the Florida Bar in prosecuting his case.

The report by Judge Tunis is quite lengthy. We will break it down and comment on it beginning tomorrow. For now, we will note the Judge's conclusion regarding the evidence presented at Thompson's Bar trial, as she definitely knows Jack:

The Florida Bar has recommended disbarment for a period of ten (10) years. This Court respectfully declines to follow the Bar’s recommendation... This case involves factual findings of cumulative misconduct, a repeated pattern of behavior relentlessly forced upon numerous unconnected individuals, a total lack of remorse or even slight acknowledgement of inappropriate conduct... 

 

Additionally, the Court is taking into consideration a review of the Respondent’s conduct not only as proven by the evidence, but by what this Court has witnessed of the Respondent’s behavior throughout the eighteen (18) months of litigation. The undersigned finds no evidence whatsoever to indicate that the Respondent is amenable to rehabilitation, or even remotely appreciates the basis upon which a need or purpose for such rehabilitation is warranted...

  

Over a very extended period of time involving a number of totally unrelated cases and individuals, the Respondent has demonstrated a pattern of conduct to strike out harshly, extensively, repeatedly and willfully to simply try to bring as much difficulty, distraction and anguish to those he considers in opposition to his causes. He does not proceed within the guidelines of appropriate professional behavior, but rather uses other means available to intimidate, harass, or bring public disrepute to those whom he perceives oppose him.

 

Thus, after careful consideration of the underlying facts in the instant cases, together with the Florida Standards for Imposing Lawyer Sanctions, the applicable aggravating and mitigating factors and the precedent case law, this Court makes the following recommendations for John Bruce Thompson:


A. Permanent disbarment, with no leave to reapply for admission.
B. Disciplinary costs currently totaling $43,675.35.

 


Comments

Re: We Have the Judge's Report Recommending PERMANENT

I think you'll also see from the report itself that most bars ask you if you've had disciplinary proceedings with another association before you can apply.

JT did in fact lie about this very thing when applying for his pro hac vice license to work in Alabama.

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I love justice served cold.This is just priceless.

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we should do a visa/master card commercial with this...

if only we could get the EXACT ammounts...

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Replacement for the busted fax machine: ~$150

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Apparently its about $43,675.35.

Re: We Have the Judge's Report Recommending PERMANENT

Oh Karma, I love you so much right now.

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-I apologize-
-I apologize-

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[quote]Am I correct in worrying/thinking that the score is now 1 down and 49 to go?  I mean this is just Florida right?  He could still "practice" in California if he got a license here no?  Hate to give the man ideas because if I could keep him on the right side of the continent I would but is there some sort of reciprocal agreement between state bars that would make it tougher for him to practice here with a lifetime disbarment in Florida?[/quote]

 

 

Although Jack can apply for a license to practice law in other states, it's highly unlikely to happen. For a start he would have to pass the exam. Jack is constantly demonstrating the fact he knows absolutely nothing about the law he practices. Secondly, he would have to somehow convince the state bar that being PERMANENTLY disbared from Florida is no reason to refuse him a license elswhere. You'd need one hell of a silver tongue to manage that. In fact I'm fairly sure most states would refuse outright to let him apply.

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I see jack got the t-shirt contest pulled. Pity, I was looking forward to potential, "move the podium" jokes.


 

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Re: We Have the Judge's Report Recommending PERMANENT

I'm suprised that no one has made a comic of Mr. Thompson wearing a podium (the top of a podium straped around him, like a snack vendor at a baseball game)

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I'm not sure whether Jack got it pulled, or, more likely, Dennis was in two minds about it, I'm inclined to agree with those who think that this isn't the place. Maybe Kotaku or something would be better suited to that sort of thing?

I don't doubt there are a great deal of reasons, that Dennis hasn't disclosed, that Dennis should feel somewhat vindicated by yesterdays' news, I know Thompson well enough to know that we have probably seen about 1/20th of the harassment, inimidation and aggression that Thompson has directed at him, his employers and his family/friends over the years, remember, Thompson doesn't only wan't to win the argument, he want's to leave you unemployed, imprisoned and penniless. It's kind of ironic that in his mad rush to do this to other people, he has damaged himself far more than anyone else.

So yes, it's tempting to point and laugh now that his chickens have come home to roost, but I think Dennis is concerned that gloating too hard would start letting things sink down to Jack's level.

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I just want to thank Dennis for providing the link to the document.  I've been saving all this stuff.  I have to satisfy a writing requirement to graduate from law school.  I'm thinking of writing it on Legal Ethics and well...Jack would have to figure prominently in ANY discussing of legal ethics.

Re: We Have the Judge's Report Recommending PERMANENT

My writing requirement was achingly boring.  It got published anyways.  Making Jack's decline and fall into a publishable article would be a service to yourself and the profession.

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Am I correct in worrying/thinking that the score is now 1 down and 49 to go?  I mean this is just Florida right?  He could still "practice" in California if he got a license here no?  Hate to give the man ideas because if I could keep him on the right side of the continent I would but is there some sort of reciprocal agreement between state bars that would make it tougher for him to practice here with a lifetime disbarment in Florida?

Re: We Have the Judge's Report Recommending PERMANENT

Technically yes he could practice in any of the other 49 states or D.C.  However, to do so he would have to:

1) Pass the bar exam

2) Satisfy the "Character and Fitness" board that he is of the "requisite high moral character and ethical fitness" to be admitted to the bar.

It isn't simply a matter of passing the Bar exam, you have to be admitted to the bar based on that and your character as both a professional and an individual.  Extremely unlikely Jack would satisfy such a board (except maybe in Utah).

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Not even in Utah. That sham of a reward scam was a private organization's idea. BYU in fact. Given his history with utah's legal system, he'd stand a better chance of not being hung in Nevada after shooting one of our fellow gamers there. And there would be heavy backlash, there already has been some.

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even w/o #2, I DOUBT he could pass the exam

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I have met lawyers from other countries come here and get jobs after passing a bunch of requirements. Couldn't Mr. Thompson just switch over to Canada, pass their requirements and then carry on with his legal war?

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I can't see Canadians putting up with Jack for long.

 

We're polite, but we expect some politeness in return. He'd lose his job for sure.

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Read the report, my friend.

He not only will never practice law, but I doubt that he will be able to find any job at all. Judge Tunis just put one huge final nail in his coffin. No person would want to have around somebody depicted in this document.

 

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Bye Jack!  It's been fun. And I wouldn't worry about him, I'd say he's got a promising future as a bail bondsman in Florida. He needs to channel all that aggression into an occupation that would reward it.

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Spent the whole morning reading the report (sorry work!)

its very clear that the transcribed reports that Dennis posted were actually VERY fair to jack. I was struck by Judge Tunis's report just how much of an utter monster jack Thompson is.

Did anyone read the untouchables bit, were the threatened to put a lawyer in the morgue? Dear God, is the man of his rocker?

A stunning, and DAMNING report into this mans mind. The Judge is completely correct, he has never shown regret, nor does he give ANY sign of changing his behaviour. He is literally, a contemptible, evil little man

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Game Over.

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Anyone want to be really nice, and start a fund to help JT pay his legal fees?  Wouldn't that just be the coup-de-grace?  We could label it a charity.

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He'd claim it's harassment. Like I said before, remember Flowers for jack. And in the wise words of Gimli the dwarf: "Let him rot, why should we care". He brought it upon himself. And he never paid a cent for every unconstitutional law he "drafted" and then got struck down. Taxpayers did it. He HAS to pay the fee.

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no offense but i'd rather put my money on somewhere more useful...

say certain charity orgz in Africa?

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Solving the problems in Africa isn't going to be done by throwing gobs of money at them.  To really do anything, world governments need to crack down on arms sales flowing in, and drugs and diamonds flowing out.  Then you have to deal with the reamining warlords on-by-one, finally allowing the troubled parts of the continent to heal and progress at their own will. 

Paying for JT's legal fee would be publicly seen as a magnanimous gesture done by us - his 'enemies.'  The flowers for Jack thing worked very well, but it wasn't picked up by anything other that small blogs.  But I can respect the idea that you believe your money is better spent elsewhere.  I also can see from the other (not yours) response to my idea that most gamers are too immature to realize my point.

Maybe after the disbarment goes to finality, we run a t-shirt contest that the proceeds go to helping his family in defraying the costs of his career's implosion.

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So how long till Jack declares this a "VICTORY" for himself?

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Actually Jack has been very quiet after all this.  No claims of victory, no promises of what's going to happen to Judge Tunis, no insult-spew directed at Dennis or gamers in general...  I guess for once in his career he has nothing left to say.

Jack's silence is music to my ears.

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Quiet?

Just yesterday morning, before this became public, he rushed off to file a Federal lawsuit against Judge Tunis, and got into an altercation with the Federal Marshalls at the buildings entrance. It seems they have been warned about him, and consider him dangerous enough that he is not allowed in the building unless escorted by a marshall. They were not very nice to him.

This prompted him to declare that he will also sue the feds for $10 million over his treatment by the Marshalls.

Yesterday he also posted a few ranting leters calling Judge Tunis a maniac of a woman, etc etc, which he sent to the Florida Judicial Qualifications Board.

Jack has been a busy boy.

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Wait what?  When/where was this?  Links?  I didn't see it on GP...

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@Anyone knowledgeable in these things:

Where exactly does it go from here? I would imagine that if the bar carries out the ban, he will go through the various appeals processes. Correct me if i'm wrong, but aren't most of the judges on those supreme courts of yours appointed by your right-wing pro-christian president? It is entirely possible that they might decide to overturn a decision against a right-wing pro-christian nut?

Most politicians are eager to hitch their wagon to the games are bad horse..

 

 

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Regardless of whether a right-wing pro-Christian politican or judge sympathizes with Mr. Thompson's positions, their primary obligation is to uphold the system.  As an example, Judge Friedman in this case clearly felt that Bully was offensive, but he recognized that there was no legal means to prevent its publication.  Similarly, there is no basic legal recourse to overturn this decision unless startling developments or improperly filed paperwork surfaces.

However, that assumes that right-wing pro-Christian politicians actually sympathize with Mr. Thompson, who has attacked right-wing pro-Christian supporters and lobbyists as well documented internally.  He targetted business associates of the Bush family, which makes him a bit of a pariah.

 

 

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actually the main problem with Jack Thompson is NOT his crusade...

personally, i find both Bully and GTA very distasteful (even if i have played the former extensively in the past)

What really gets into people's nerves is the fact how he conducts these crusades

 

To sum it up, even if he has the right motives (which i doubt) and fighting for the right cause, if he does it the wrong way, it's still wrong. The end never justifies the means.

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As far as the games go, yeah, I have a beef with Rockstar too.  It's like they create games like State of Emergency and Manhunt 2 simply to scare people, and that holds the entire industry back.  Many people don't understand video games yet, so Rockstar's works tend to amplify fear and rally the politicians rather than accomplish anything productive.

Do games make people killers though?  Absolutely not.

The important thing to remember though is that everything we see and experience becomes part of us and will always affect us in some way.  We have to be very careful about what we allow into our minds.  So if you find yourself screaming and flailing at your little brother more than usual, maybe you should actually stop playing GTA or watching South Park for a while.

I enjoy Resident Evil 4, Serious Sam, and Silent Hill 3 myself, but that's because they use violence as a spice.  It's not the entire dish.  Applied liberally, it can ruin a cuisine.  It's a tool that can be misused like many things in life.

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Can't help thinking that a Take2/EA Takeover on the same day as Thompson is disbarred, would sort of be like maintaining balance in the Force ;)

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It also needs to be remembered that even if a Judge sympathised with Thompson's campaign, which he may do, he also does NOT wan't to set a precedent that members of the Bar are able to make false statements about Judges in order to get their own way, regardless of the cause, because something like that would come back and haunt them in the future, they know that, and I'm pretty much 100% certain now that they will act appropriately.

It also means that, should the Supreme court decide to show leniency, or should Thompson appeal the outcome, rather than getting 10 years lowered to 5, he would get permanency lowered to 10, so either way, it puts him out of the loop pretty much permanently now, I think that is part of the reason behind the increase in the recommended punishment.

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Guys, read page 39 of her report. It's hilarious!

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"Over a very extended period of time involving a number of totally unrelated cases and individuals, the Respondent has demonstrated a pattern of conduct to strike out harshly, extensively, repeatedly and willfully to simply try to bring as much difficulty, distraction and anguish to those he considers in opposition to his causes. He does not proceed within the guidelines of appropriate professional behavior, but rather uses other means available to intimidate, harass, or bring public disrepute to those whom he perceives oppose him."

Who needs Wikipedia?  This one paragraph sums John Bruce up completely.

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Jack Thompson's after me now... after I called him everything he should be known for, he replied saying that I confirmed every gamer's stereotype which I didn't even mention that... I just told him he sucked and thing is though.

I live in Britain so he can't do Jack.

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Reading this document has made me feel ill.  The targets of Mr. Thompson's campaigns of falsehood and humilation have had to endure blows to their reputation and mental well being.  I cannot begin to imagine the actual misery inflicted upon these people.  My regret is that disbarrment will not stop Mr. Thompson from continuing to slander and libel these people, it will only prevent his ability to do so before a court as a lawyer.

Re: We Have the Judge's Report Recommending PERMANENT

It wouldn't surprise me one bit if there aren't a ton of lawsuits against Jack just waiting to be filed.  I imagine they are just waiting until he is officially disbarred.  His disbarrment can then be used as evidence against him (and pretty damning evidence) of his bad conduct towards various individuals.

What Jack will end up doing...

Once he's disbarred, I think Jack will wind up on the lecture circuit.

 

And he could make a real good living doing it as well. Look how much Bill clinton makes on it. Millions a year. And I'm sure there are alot of ultra-conservative groups who would love to hear him speak.

 

You get fees paid to speak.

Hotel paid for.

Meals paid for.

Transportation paid for (about 50% of the time)

 

So, free plane ride, free food, free hotel, and getting paid 25-20k a pop. Not too shabby.

 

 

Re: What Jack will end up doing...

Except a former president will get 20-25k a pop (or more).  A disgraced, lunatic former attorney probably won't command that type of fee.

His "debates" seemed to only be getting him a couple grand per appearance, and those haven't exactly been frequent.

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There are a lot of gamers out there who would like to disbar Jack permanently, but in their own way if you get my drift.

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I don't think so.

 

It's a testament to the mild temperment, positive disposition, and general well-rounded goodness of the gaming community that nothing has happened to Jack Thompson, despite the fact that he routinely goes on TV an in courtrooms defaming us as a whole.

If you went on TV to give the same terrible qualities to ANY OTHER COMMUNITY, he would walk around with a loaded gun. It would be a DEATH WISH. What do gamers do? WE SEND DONATIONS TO CHARITIES IN HIS NAME.

 

In the battle of good vs. evil, we are VERY GOOD.

 

Re: We Have the Judge's Report Recommending PERMANENT

more to the point if some one tried pulling that kind of jack thompson shit with islam.....

A nasty thought

Just had a thought about something he might try. He has always tried to escape his come-uppance on technicalities, for instance; announce to run for a Judge's position in order to force a recusal, bringing up the crazy loyalty oath ploy in order to have the referee removed, etc.

What are the odds that he will try and resign, or leave his profession, so to keep saying "I was an attorney for blah blah years in good standing until I became dissillusioned with the bar and had to leave", in order to avoid his disbarment. Same result, but this way he would keep crowing about his "victories".

I can't see it happening though, his narcissism won't let him back down, and he's probably learned from before, when he tried to quit the Alabama case but the Judge made him stay so he could be rightfully kicked off!

Re: A nasty thought

He can certainly resign as a practicing attorney.  But he would technically still be a member of the Florida Bar until his membership ran out (not sure what the term is before you have to renew).  So the Florida Bar could still disbar him in order to prevent his practicing in the state again.

I'm pretty sure there is no way of resigning your bar membership, you just don't renew it if you aren't interested.  He's technically "paid up" for the year (or 5 years, or however long the term is) and is therefore a member as long as that term lasts.

The only thing Jack can resign from is actually practicing law, but not his bar membership.  That lasts until he either allows it to lapse or the bar kicks him off and I imagine the bar has an interest in kicking him off before it lapses for just the reason you said.

Re: We Have the Judge's Report Recommending PERMANENT

ps

@Dennis

loving the 'I trained excessively on a disbarrment simulator' T shirt hahahah!

can we get hold of one??? id so pay for that!

 
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