Florida Attorney: Jack Thompson's Attacks are the "Emotional Equivalent of Stalking"

July 12, 2008 -

In 2005, Jack Thompson wrote Out of Harm's Way, an autobiography which detailed his brand of activism. Toward the end of book he lists 25 Culture War Tips From the Trenches.

These include "Be mean" and "Take the Offensive."

Thompson apparently put his philosophy into practice with zest, if one judges by transcripts of his November, 2007 Bar trial. Judge Dava Tunis cites large chunks of those transcripts in her 169-page report to the Florida Supreme Court in which she recommends that Thompson be disbarred for life.

While GamePolitics has already offered exclusive coverage of the transcripts involving Thompson Bar trial witnesses related to video game cases, we had not previously read the testimony of Florida attorneys Larry Kellogg and Al Cardenas (left) of the Tew Cardenas law firm. In 2005 Kellogg was hired by Beasley Communications to deal with Thompson. Beasley owns radio stations and Thompson had targeted some of their shock jock programming. From the transcripts cited by Judge Tunis:

Kellogg: ...what [Thompson] does in these situations -- is he attacks the lawyers for those he wants to do something with... once he learned that I was involved, he started sending me communications to me about my client and about me to others. He also started copying me with all the communications he was sending to others... the F.C.C., third parties of every sort...

I had another matter out in Denver... So I went out to Denver and I didn't get back to Mr. Thompson quick enough for him. So I started getting e-mails threatening that he was going to sue me personally if I didn't arrange a meeting. He sent me an e-mail giving me deadlines. I must have this meeting -- agree to this meeting -- by a certain date or things were going to happen. I was getting all these e-mails, but I was out on another matter and I didn't think it was the most important thing in my life was to arrange a meeting with him. So because I didn't do it fast enough for him, he sent a series of letters... and this was the basis for my initial Bar complaint, why I got involved for the first time in 26 years in a Bar proceeding. I've never filed a Bar complaint and I've never been involved in one prior to this day. This is what made me do it...

Al Cardenas is my partner. Al Cardenas has never represented Beasley and he had never done anything
personally on behalf of Beasley up to that time and never has since. He's never billed an hour of time. He's never talked to them about any legal matter. He's never represented them in any way. He was simply an innocent bystander, who happens to have been the co-chair of President Bush's Florida campaign. He is involved in politics. He's well known as being involved in politics on the Republican side and he knows very well Jeb Bush and he knows George Bush and [Florida Governor] Charlie Crist. He knows them all and they all know who he is.... So Mr. Thompson, because I wouldn't get a meeting with him fast enough...[made the following statements regarding Mr. Cardenas.]:

From Judge Tunis' Report: On March 17, 2005, [Thompson] sent a letter to Florida Governor Jeb Bush stating that Al Cardenas, a partner in the Tew Cardenas law firm, “...has been involved in facilitating the commission of criminal activity in violation of 18 USC 1464 and other federal and state criminal statutes.” Respondent further stated: More specifically, Mr. Cardenas personally and his firm collectively have actively protected the distribution of pornographic material to children and helped target me and my family because of my alerting federal authorities to this activity and Mr. Cardenas’s and his firm’s involvement in it... This makes Mr. Cardenas and his firm involved, in my legal opinion, in a statewide racketeering activity...

 

The next day on March 18, 2005, [Thompson] wrote Mr. Cardenas: "Not having received it [a return telephone call], and [Thompson's then-attorney] Ray Reiser and I not having heard from your partner Mr. Kellogg about our requested meeting with Caroline Beasley, I alerted the Daily Business Review here in Miami that I have asked Governor Bush to direct the Statewide Prosecutor to investigate your law firm’s receipt of fees from a multi-county criminal activity that violates federal criminal statutes."

 

Thus, Mr. Thompson explicitly states that the reason he is requesting an investigation by a Statewide Prosecutor from Governor Bush, and simultaneously notifying the primary daily legal newspaper in Miami, is because he did not receive a return telephone call from Mr. Kellogg.

Kellogg: Once he found out about the Bar complaint [that I filed against him]... I knew exactly how he was going to respond. He was going to go after my clients, he was going to go [sic] my partners, he was going to go after my employees, he was going to go after me, and he was going to say Beasley was behind it -- not true. I thought hard about whether I should do this, but I tell you. I had seen him do this to so many other people in the short time that I had been exposed to him and I said, "I'm just not going to sit by and let him do it."

Many of these communications were copied to every person in my firm. I made the decision to block Mr. Thompson’s e-mails from everyone in my firm except for me; and the reason I didn't block them from me is because I was still representing a client, Beasley, and I had to read the garbage that he was sending me to make sure it didn't impact Beasley, but everyone else, I'd would [sic] block it. I had to block it. Occasionally, he would change his e-mail address and some would get through and now I'd have to deal with the reaction. You can imagine. I've got a 50 lawyer law firm that everybody in it -- including lots of secretaries -- would get stuff about me and Al Cardenas being pornographers or mentally molesting children and that sort of thing...

Jack Thompson:  In fact, go to Exhibit 39, if you would. [Florida Bar prosector] Miss [Sheila] Tuma had you read from just a small portion of this letter, I believe, Exhibit 39. It's my letter to the president of
Florida A & M University.

Kellogg: Oh, I remember it.

Thompson: Okay. Why don't you read starting at the last paragraph on the first page and read through the in bold type at the top of page two. This is a letter, so that record is clear, to the president of Florida A & M. which is predominantly an African- American student body.

Kellogg: (After examining document) Yes. You said: "In February, 2004, I was successful in getting the Howard Stern show off all Clear Channel radio stations in America, including the one in South Florida, because Stern aired the following comment while interviewing the man who had sexual intercourse with Paris Hilton and streamed the audio and ran video of it on the Internet: "Ever bang any famous [n-word]chicks? What do they smell like? Watermelon?" Is that where you want me to stop or should I keep reading?

Thompson: Yes. You can stop there.

Kellogg: That's what you said to the president of Florida A & M.

Thompson:  Right.

Kellogg: The African-American school, yes.

Thompson: And that was -- I'm sorry, Mr. Kellogg. Do you have a problem with my telling that to this African-American gentleman whose law firm is representing the company that has that on the air?

Kellogg: For one thing, it's not his law firm. It's a member of his Board of Trustees. I don't know whether Howard Stern...

Thompson: Whose law firm?

Kellogg: We were not representing Florida A & M...

Thompson: Do you have a problem with me telling the president of Florida A & M about this, the fact that Al Cardenas is in the law firm that bears his name that is representing this programming?

Kellogg: Well, I do because -- for a number of reasons. One is, you're trying to get Al Cardenas thrown off the Board because I won't drop my Bar complaint.

Thompson: Where do I --

Kellogg: Second is -- let me finish. Second is, we never represented Howard Stern programming; and even if we did, Al Cardenas never did. Third is, I have no idea if Howard Stern actually said this or if he didn't. I have no idea if you actually got him off the station. I have no idea. You say it all the time. I don't know if it's --

Thompson: Well, never --

Kellogg: But to go to an African-American school and paint this picture of Al Cardenas who is a member of the Board a racist because we're somehow affiliated with Howard Stern when you know we're not? Yes. I've got a problem with that, Mr. Thompson...

Thompson: Where do I say Mr. Cardenas is a racist?...

Kellogg: You think you're cute by calling him a racist, in a way, saying he's a white politician who puts
profits ahead of race relations. To me, that's calling him a racist. I think you can understand why someone might take that as meaning that Al Cardenas is a racist, and it's certainly the way I took it.

Thompson: Is it possible Mr. Cardenas is insensitive to matters of race in this regard?

Kellogg: No...

From Judge Tunis's Report: On May 1, 2005 at 7:33 A.M., Mr. Thompson sent an e-mail to various people including President Bush, Governor Bush, Al Cardenas and numerous Tew Cardenas employees and media. This letter included “John B. Thompson, Attorney at Law” letterhead and was also addressed to U.S. Congressman Fred Upton. Notably, below the top page margin and above the letterhead Mr. Thompson wrote: “Dear Al: Bar complaints are dangerous things, si?”

Kellogg: Exhibit 44 is a letter that he sends to the President and C.E.O. of Martindale-Hubbell. Now, Martindale-Hubbell, as you know, is the rating agency for lawyers and it rates lawyers based upon the opinions of their peers. They do surveys. Al Cardenas and I are both AV rated lawyers, meaning that we have the highest rating both as to skill and ethics that Martindale-Hubbell can award. It's a very important -- you know, it's an important thing to be rated AV in the Martindale-Hubbell.

From Judge Tunis's Report: On May 7, 2005 at 10:12 A.M. and 3:34 P.M., Mr. Thompson sent two emails to Larry Kellogg which included letters to John A. Lawler, President and CEO of Martindale-Hubbell, stating that, Larry Kellogg, Al Cardenas and [another attorney]...“do not deserve the high dual rating from Martindale-Hubbell. It is my opinion that this firm has engaged in criminal conduct.” 

Kellogg: You've skipped one that's really important to me and I'd like to talk about it, if possible, and that's May 8th, on Mother's Day... I have it right here... This is a letter to Mrs. Lawrence A. Kellogg and Mrs. Al Cardenas care of Al and I, which is copied to every female lawyer in my firm and some other
lawyers as well regarding "Hypocrisy at Tew Cardenas on Mother's Day, 2005," and in it he says that -- Well, I have a lot of young female lawyers working in my law firm and he sends them an e-mail and to my wife and to Al's wife in care of us. I shared it with her because I said, "I want you to see what I'm dealing with."

What he said is: "These two men, along with the entire firm in which they practice law, have actively facilitated distribution of criminally indecent material to other mothers' children in violation of [federal law]. In addition, they have committed perjury in a sworn Bar complaint... They have threatened a critic of what they have done, all the while claiming the First Amendment protects the distribution of porn to children."

Then he goes on to say: "The problem, your men, Mrs. Kellogg and Mrs. Cardenas, seem to have it is
that they care about some women, but not all women. They certainly don't care about my wife and our 12 year old son." Then he says: "They --" meaning Al and I "- - facilitate the objectification of all women and the mental molestation of minors for money... All the women who work at Tew Cardenas, along with the
wives of the men who work there, ought to be ashamed of what Tew Cardenas is doing. You are all
hypocrites who care only about yourselves and not about others."

A very Happy Mother's Day greeting copied to female lawyers in my firm saying that I objectify women, that I mentally molest minors for money, and that I'm a porn lawyer who should be criminally prosecuted. I've got to tell you, you know, there is no line that he wouldn't cross at this point... I will say that this went on and went on and went on and went on for two full years.

From Judge Tunis's Report: On June 16, 2005, [Thompson] sent an e-mail to various individuals,
including the Tew Cardenas law firm and the media. This letter included “John B. Thompson, Attorney at Law” letterhead and was also addressed to the members of the Board of Pasco County Commissioners, a Tew Cardenas client.

 

Therein, Mr. Thompson wrote: "Tew Cardenas has been involved, for quite some time, in efforts to facilitate the illegal broadcasts of Naples-based Beasley Broadcast Group, Inc., in violation of [federal law]... I am not quite sure why Pasco County would want to hire a firm that is a front for a portion of the pornography industry…two of Tew Cardenas’ equity partners, Larry Kellogg and Al Cardenas…have committed perjury (not yet convicted), in stating under oath that Beasley has ‘no links to the porn industry.’…Tew Cardenas’ lawyers have been involved for quite sometime in efforts to silence, with intimidation, harassment, and threats, an individual who has gone to state and federal law
enforcement officials about the aforementioned criminal activity... If the Commission should like me to journey to Pasco County to explain further why Tew Cardenas should be dumped as its lobbyist, please let me know...

Kellogg: ...Pasco County Commissioners, they receive a letter. They don't know who Jack Thompson is. They don't live in this community. They don't see what he's made of and what he does. They say a lawyer has sent us this letter and they make inquiries. Now, I had to go explain to the Commissioners of Pasco County the background of all this and why it was happening and why it is we're not pornographers or we're not a front for the porn industry and all these other things he said. I had to respond to that
client's concerns based upon his communication, in response to my Bar complaint...

Bar prosecutor (to Al Cardenas): Can you tell the Court what effect Mr. Thompson’s conduct towards you has had on you?

Thompson: Objection, Your Honor. I think that's irrelevant.

Judge Tunis: Overruled.

Cardenas: Well, you know, by now it's been a period of almost four years, I would presume. We filed this complaint – this grievance -- with the Bar in March of '05 at a time when we thought there was ample
information to justify it, but it didn't stop then... but it got to the point where we had to ask our IT Supervisor to block spam e-mails because frankly they were of an emotionally hurtful and distracting fashion, and this went on and on and on.

I mean, there were missives sent to people who are in public office but who are personal friends and acquaintances over many years: The Governor of the state, the President, the Attorney General, the U.S. Attorney, the State Attorney, all people that I have known for decades, literally, and have developed friendships with. Clients received missives. The newspapers have received missives. My wife has received missives. Young lawyers, some of whom I recruited in the firm, received missives. Employees received missives, where basically I was being accused of participating in a criminal enterprise, of indulging in child pornography or supporting child pornography. Frankly, it was the emotional equivalent of stalking. It just wouldn't stop...

Frankly, Mr. Thompson, I never objected to you representing yourself or a client or a cause. We were representing the other side and I couldn't care less for how long and with how much zealousness you represented your client or yourself as long as you treated us with the protocol and etiquette that the Florida Bar calls for. It's that simple. I have never objected to -- and wouldn't intend to -- to any cause that you decide to undertake. It's your methodology that I object to.

From Judge Tunis's Report: As to this count involving Tew Cardenas, the conduct and motivation of Mr. Thompson as proven by the evidence surpasses the extreme, at the very least. It is almost hard to imagine a lawyer comporting himself in this wholly reckless manner, but the evidence shows beyond any doubt that the Respondent in fact, did so.

 


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Hmm.. even good Christian women like, oh, I don't know, Sarah (Abraham's wife) had no problems respectfully pointing out that her husband was about to make a stupid mistake.  Being a good Christian wife does not preclude common sense - at least, it's not SUPPOSED to.  Just a thought. :D

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Err, let me rephrase that.  Good RELIGIOUS people, as Sarah wasn't technically Christian.. but you get the idea, since Abraham was referred to as a "man of faith" held up as an example FOR Christians.

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But you also must understand that blind faith of intelligent and educated people also launched the Crusades, the Spanish Inquisition, the Holocaust, and 9/11. Blind faith can bring madness into anyone if it is something that believe strongly enough in.

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Probably because she's afraid he'd do the same thing to her.

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Mr. Kellogg, kudos to you and Mr. Cardenas for staying the course, and for showing the world the true Jack Thompson. This, excuse my french, pissed me off so much I sent him an email of my own. First time I'd ever really considered doing it, and it'll have no effect, but I had to let the man know there was someone else out here condemns his behaviour.

I hope that, from this point forward, you no longer have to deal with his particular brand of idiocy, and that things get back to normal for you (as normal as things are for anyone, at any extent).

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Mr. Kellogg, At first, we thought Jack Thompson acted this way solely through the internet and through basic bullying to people lacking any form of legal defense. I'm very much amazed the man has been allowed to act as he has for the past 20 years with no form of retribution. Thank you for rallying together with other complainants about this man. He needed to be stopped long ago. I'm sad it has taken this long to get real justice done.

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Kudos, Mr. Kellogg, for standing up to this heinous excuse of a human being.  You are right in wondering how much sooner this should have happened.  You and your colleague are an example of doing what is right in the world.

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Big thanks to Mr. Kellogg for both posting here and his actions to help stop Jack.

I'm actually pretty amazed. I stated during the trial coverage GP provided that as bad as the game-related portions which were provided here, the "other" parts which we didn't see at the time would probably be the most damaging to Jack. While he could have weaseled his way out of those charges since Judge Tunis and the Bar's rep weren't experienced gamers, the Tew-Cardenas bit was solely regarding regular legal matters with which any legal professional would be well versed.

I'll let Judge Tunis' words speak for themselves regarding the strength of this portion of the charges:

"As to this count involving Tew Cardenas, the conduct and motivation
of Mr. Thompson as proven by the evidence surpasses the extreme, at the
very least. It is almost hard to imagine a lawyer comporting himself in this
wholly reckless manner, but the evidence shows beyond any doubt that the
Respondent in fact, did so. Mr. Thompson caused a series of chain reactions
of utterly inappropriate, offensive and debasing conduct that belies any sense
of moral decency and professionalism" [pg 134 of the Final Report].

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Can someone summarize this, its so complicated and long, just give me the jist of it

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From what I understand, and I'm a little sketchy on why Thompson and Kellogg were in contact to begin with, I believe they were on opposite sides of a case I'm not familiar with. Kellogg had to head out of state, as attorneys often do, and Thompson was to immature to wait until he got back so he went after his partner, Cardenas. Cardenas had nothing to do with the case, and never represented the client Thompson was whining about.

Then after they filed the complaint Thompson started harrassing them even more, even going so far as to call the porn distributors to people as high up as the president, and as personal as their wives. Necessitating them to explain these lies to people they've known for years.

All because Kellogg wasn't able to return a phone call before Thompson threw a hissy fit.

 

-"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill

-"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill

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Why they were in contact gets mention at the start of that complaint. Jack was being sued for defamation, and blamed a broadcasting company in much the same way that any time gamers annoy him, Take Two's behind it. Anyways, the company hired the services of Kellog to deal with Jack accusing them of masterminding a lawsuit they had no involvment in. So they were in contact because Kellog had the job of dealing with Jacks various demands that had no basis in reality.

-Gray17

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ok, thanks. What an asshole. if anybody went after my wife like that, in an issue between just the both of us, he would be 6 feet under

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I can't help but wonder where he found the time to send all these letters and emails to all these people.

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It was easy. He doesn't have any friends.  Frees up alot of time.

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Well done Mr Kellogg for taking the hits needed to expose JT as someone who really needs to go see a shrink ASAP

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What a son of a bitch. Mr. Kellogg, Mr. Cardenas, for what it's worth, you have my thanks, and my respect for taking the hits required to get this deranged man out of the legal profession.

 

-"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill

-"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill

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I motion to present Mr. Kellogg with our own Freedom Award-esque thing, as he is infinitely more deserving than Jack Bruce. He's had to cope with slander and libel on an incredibly personal level, and yet was able to objectively state his feelings on the matter and contribute in no small part to what is almost guaranteed to be the downfall of Thompson. Maybe we could melt down some pennies and make a little statue? Buy him a copy of GTA IV?

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Mr. Kellogg, I just want to add my thanks to those above, for doing what you did. I'm glad there are lawyers out there willing to take a stand for their principles, and do what must be done, though it cause them pain. Also, it's a great pleasure to have you take the time to post here. And you are right, letting injustice slide by because it is 'irrelevant' only leads to more injustice. I hope that in the future I might follow that example in my own life.

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Bravo Kellog, bravo.

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Sorry I couldn't be here for this early on.  I was at a convention all day, one of the guests being George Takei, who talked at length about the California Supreme Court's ruling in favor of gay marriage and his upcoming wedding.  He gave a very stirring speech about how we need to be more politically active, as governments are only as good as the people who run them, and it depends on us, the people, to make sure it works properly, and that there are people out there who are only too eager to take advantage of and abuse the flaws in the system.  He didn't name anyone specific, but Thompson I'm sure would easily fit into George's criteria.

I wanted to talk to George about my political activism as a member of the ECA, and about Jack Thompson (epsecially seeing as how he has also gone after Howard Stern - whose show George is a frequent guest on - as well as gay rights) and the good news about his upcoming disbarment, but sadly never got the chance.  I'm sure though that George would have found it all extremely interesting.

Anyway, as with the others, thank you Mr. Kellogg for your bravery and resolve in dealing with this bully who has been a blight on the legal system for far too long.  Everything you described about him and his tactics in the court transcripts are exactly what I've been telling others for years: He tries to ruin and disrupt people's lives with lies.  Most third parties who recieve his emails have no idea what kind of person he is, only assuming that since he identifies himself as a lawyer (a person whose occupation, much like that of a police officer or a doctor, automatically engenders a certain amount of trust and authority) that what he says must have some merit and warrant looking into.  That's how he's been able to deal so much damage, and he knows it.

Now thanks to you, his lies and methods have been exposed for all the world to see.  No one will believe him anymore after this, he's aware of this, and he's running scared despite his declarations to the contrary (more puffery on his part).

Jack wants to make this all about how he's being persecuted because of his faith, but you pointed out there clearly that it was his conduct and his methods, NOT his faith, that was at issue.  That simple statement blew a big hole in his lame excuse for a "defense" and gave Judge Tunis a big nail to put in his coffin.  Thank you very much, then, for your testimony as it went a long way towards showing him for what he really is.  

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Dear Mr Kellogg,

I'd like to congratulate you on your success regarding the Thompson case. It has proved to be a fascinating experience for me, even over the pond.

Also, well done on your very nice replies to his smarmy tactics. I personally feel that I would not have kept such a level head in lieu of his provoking comments. I do honestly hope that he actually gets punished properly for his actions, and to finally teach him that being a lawyer does not allow him to be above the law, as he so often seems to flaunt.

My heart goes out to your family, firm and friends for having to put up with his mass scare mongering.

Stand firm, stand tall, and rest assured that you made a good choice and were well justified in doing so.

J.T, if you're reading this (as you invariably will be), I hope you understand some day the extent of your crimes and the repercussions that follow.

Payback's a bitch innit?

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Actually, from what I understand (although I would have to double check the DSM-IV to be certain), Mr Thompson's behavior falls pretty much in line with at the very least a borderline personality disorder.  He knows precisely what he is doing, shows no sign of remorse and does not seem to be suffering from an actual psychosis (hallucinations, etc.).  Hopefully a judge at his inevitable libel/slander/defamation suit will order the poor guy to undergo a psych eval, because he clearly needs help.

Mr. Kellogg- Thank you for standing up to the cowardly tactics of a man who, if Judge Tunis' report is any indication, has made many a person's life unbearable with constant harrassment and baseless charges.  It takes a man of real integrity to take on a man with no integrity.  You are truly a scholar and a gentleman.

Dennis- Thanks also to you for posting the report, which is required reading, albeit a bit dry. 

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Like others here I am glad to see people whos tood up to him. Thompson has a hero complex and I have heard many people over the years say to just ignore him. Well the Bar ignored him for more than ten years -- and this is what happened. That's why I always say you can't ignore evil (and Thompson is evil, intentionally ruining people's lives to get whatever he wants at the time) when it pops up.

 

Mr. Kellogg, Dennis, and everyone else involved, thank you.

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Well said!

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as the old adage goes all it takes for evil to prosper is for good men to sit by and do nothing

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 Folks, I just love these comments.  I had many sleepless nights during this fight, and many people told me to just "let it go"; the Florida Bar won't do anything; no one listens to Thompson because he's irrelevant; you have better things to do; etc.  One lawyer who he attacked 20 odd years ago told me: "just block his emails and forget about him".  But I thought, if that lawyer had taken him on 20 years ago, I would not have had to deal with his antics from 2005 to 2008.  And "antics" is a pleasant word to define his incessant, endless defamatory communications about me and everyone else who he perceives is his enemy, including Al Cardenas.  (I liken his attacks on Al to be equivalent to a "drive-by shooting", and testified to my opinion).  So I salute Judge Tunis, who suffered much more than I did, in summarizing brilliantly his pattern of unethical "lawyering".  I salute her, and thank all of you for your kind words.

Larry Kellogg

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there is an old saying my father taught me, and his father taught him. "If a good man does nothing then he is equally guilty of the evil that was done."

You did something, instead of bowing under the cruel, hateful and malicious intent of Thompson. It takes a lot of courage to stand ones' ground and say "This is the line and I'll not let you cross it."

 

You are a good man, sir, and I'll have words with anyone that says otherwise.

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Sir, I am in awe of you, and others like you who took on Jack "The Hack" Thompson. I take my hat off to you, sir, for having the courage to stand up to this stain on the law. I thank you, and salute you and all of your peers.

Having read the report from the judge's report, I was wondering why the Bar didn't put its foot down sooner. In this case, I am glad they did now. Thank you sir, and a big thank you to all of those who stood up to Thompson. Here is to hoping the example made of him will prevent future occurences.

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As many others, yes, I must say I am very happy about your actions and what you've done, even in light of the ongoing attacks and slander against you that you knew would happen.

I won't go into details about Jack's actions, cause even Dennis knows of it (if you can't give Jack a call on a same day bassist, be ready for years of headache) or about why he is acting that way (either his current goal of video games or fame/attention/etc) but I do need to mention this:

I myself life in Canada ... and though what happens to jack and about jack doesn't have anything to do with us, if people continued to believe his lies, and if his crusade of extremism continues, the affects it does towards what can and cannot be released within the US will affect the development process of developers, then it’s not only the US consumers that suffer, but consumers worldwide.

Though at its core, Jack tells us that his ‘campaign’ is so that games of a certain nature cannot be played by children, his actions towards games, views of them and more speaks differently. Not to ban, only to regulate he says … ban GTA, Bully, Manhunt he tried to do.

I commend you on standing up, on confronting a bully even when you knew what was coming. His tactics are a threat to games, to gamers, to game companies … but even further than that, to lawyers, to judges, to people of the law … and even the laws they are there to protect and act upon them. He is a threat to any and all that does not share his beliefs, views, opinions and understanding. This is why we thank you for standing up to him, for those who could have, and for those who would like you.

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Mr. Kellogg, I just wanted to add my thanks too, for taking Jack's crap and throwing it back in his face!  There's only so much we posters can do from here.  Can we get your predictions on the Florida Supreme Court's final decision?  =)

"De minimus non curat lex"

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I can\'t begin to fathom how you were able to put up with this pathetic individual\'s disgusting behavior while the wheels of our legal system slowly turned. The fact that he\'s been allowed to act this way for as long as he has and to so many people without having already been 1) disbarred, 2) arrested or 3) killed just boggles the mind. If I picked up the paper tomorrow and found out that he\'d shot himself in the head, I\'d be sad.....because an otherwise good bullet had been wasted.

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Wait, this has been going on for over 20 years with OTHER lawyers, and no one took JT to the Bar mat to clean his clock? I'm totally blown away.

Well, thank you, Mr Kellogg, for standing up where others didn't. That's all I really wanted to say.

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I"m really amazed that Jacko can do these things and then claim that sites like GP are slandering him by just printing what he says.

 

 

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Somebody mentioned in a previous post that not only would his career be destroyed but his name, his legacy would be the posterboy for "downfall". That this would be the worst, most horrible death of ones career in the legal profession.

AWESOME! I CANT WAIT!

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He[Al Cardenas] was simply an innocent bystander, who happens to have been the co-chair of President Bush's Florida campaign.

Oh great, more "evidence" to support his nutty conspiracy theories and...

[snip even more absurd claims]

... All that BS just because the kook didn't get a instant email or phone call?  This just proves that Jack HAS NO LIFE!

I had seen him do this to so many other people in the short time that I had been exposed to him and I said, "I'm just not going to sit by and let him do it."

Good for him!

I didn't block them from me is because I was still representing a client, Beasley, and I had to read the garbage that he was sending me to make sure it didn't impact Beasley, but everyone else, I'd would [sic] block it.

Now that is the truth!

I had to block it. Occasionally, he would change his e-mail address and some would get through and now I'd have to deal with the reaction. You can imagine. I've got a 50 lawyer law firm that everybody in it -- including lots of secretaries -- would get stuff about me and Al Cardenas being pornographers or mentally molesting children and that sort of thing...

Not surprised at that because Jack has the tactics & ethics of a spammer.  And what a messed up mind he has to make such absurd claims...

Thompson: ... to the president of Florida A & M. which is predominantly an African- American student body.

... I never really believed him when ever he says or points such stuff out, and like with Bully, only cares momentarily when it involves and helps his agenda.

I have no idea if you actually got him off the station.

NICE ONE!  Too bad no one had the facts on hand...
 

And the following is in full because it really sums up one of Jack's main unethical behaviors:
 

Kellogg: But to go to an African-American school and paint this picture of Al Cardenas who is a member of the Board a racist because we're somehow affiliated with Howard Stern when you know we're not? Yes. I've got a problem with that, Mr. Thompson...

Thompson: Where do I say Mr. Cardenas is a racist?...

Kellogg: You think you're cute by calling him a racist, in a way, saying he's a white politician who puts profits ahead of race relations. To me, that's calling him a racist. I think you can understand why someone might take that as meaning that Al Cardenas is a racist, and it's certainly the way I took it.

Nothing more to say about that, that bit speaks for itself.

[ Martindale-Hubbell]

Hmmm, sure seems like someone is jealous that Kellogg is highly regarded, and is trying to compensate for something...

A very Happy Mother's Day greeting copied to female lawyers in my firm saying that I objectify women, that I mentally molest minors for money, and that I'm a porn lawyer who should be criminally prosecuted. I've got to tell you, you know, there is no line that he wouldn't cross at this point... I will say that this went on and went on and went on and went on for two full years.

 

Like I have said before, Jack needs to see a real shrink!

Bar prosecutor: Can you tell the Court what effect Mr. Thompson’s conduct towards you has had on you?

Thompson: Objection, Your Honor. I think that's irrelevant.

Judge Tunis: Overruled.

LOL!  At trial about your ethics and having someone testify on what effect your conduct has had on them is "irrelevant"?

but it got to the point where we had to ask our IT Supervisor to block spam e-mails because frankly they were of an emotionally hurtful and distracting fashion, and this went on and on and on.

Again, more proof Jack has less of a life then us.

All in all, it is just a darn shame this disbarment process came so late for such an ruthless and unethical person.  And good work Dennis on reporting this, I always felt that the non-video game related side deserved such attention as it shows history of similar, repetitive actions.

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The real superheroes in this battle are emerging.

They are the people who stood up to john thompson and never yielded, from Larry Kellogg to Al Cardenas to Norm Kent  to Rebecca Ward and even the judges like Friedman and Moore... they confronted jack, they did not back down, they stood their ground with grace and dignity, and suffered and endured slanders and lies and ran the course, when the Supreme Court does disbar Thompson they should be honored for going the distance, some for years...

and i hope that court will have the wisdom if not to thank those people then at least judge tunis who jack still writes about wrongly even to this day, saying how she is taking bribes...i wonder if fox news will issue a statement to its viewers, saying,'this network has determined based on the findings of the florida bar, its referees, and its supreme court, that jack thompson is not a credible source upon whose representations we can rely and therefore we have ceased our relationship with them.' i doubt it will ever happen.

and special thanks to dennis for the repeated and exhaustive coverage he has given to an issue pretty much ignored in the mainstream media...through gamepolitics.com we have been given very real insight into who thompson really was and how deceitful, sinister and mean he has always been, apparently not just in the past few years with gamers, but going back to his anti gay attitudes from the days of Luther Campbell, Janet Reno, and you just wonder.

Thompson thought he could push around everyone forever. Those days are now over forever.

 

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Wow. JT is insane.  All this stuff he does. It seems kind of crazy and kind of funny when you don't hear the details.  But when you hear the details you realise how much harm he has done and continues to do. Life time disbarment and a 50k fine is getting off very light IMHO.  But I expect that when he continues his campaign after being disbarred he'll wind up in court for it and subsequently end up in jail, all the while screaming "conspiracy theory!"  The guy has no empathy and seriously needs to see a shrink. Is sociopath too harsh a description?

Enjoy unemployment Jack, you've earned it

Mr. Kellogg - thanks on behalf of all of us for going through with everything to finally get us to this point.  If I were in the US (and in Florida in particular) I'd buy you a beer

Same for you, Dennis.  If I lived anywhere near you, I'd buy you a beer as well, if not a keg.

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Mr. Kellog, I appreciate that you confronted this disgusting excuse for a human being in a court, where this moron's true colors could be brought to light. I salute you, and wish you the best in all your future endeavors.

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 GP: Thanks for posting this.  I waited two and 1/2 years to tell my side of the story, and to confront Mr. Thompson in Court, and it was satisfying to finally do it.  But many of the comments here made me feel even better.  

Larry Kellogg

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Mr. Kellogg,

My condolences on what you had to endure because of this "lawyer."  And a firm thank you for helping the Bar put this guy's career in the ground.

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 It must be such a relief to know that at least a lot of this harrasment is coming to a close, and there is resolution forthcoming.

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Mr. Kellogg, I salute you for being down in the trenches this long and not giving up. Thank you so much for standing up to this pathetic excuse for a sentient being. Now your hard work is beginning to bear fruit. Do tell us how sweet it tastes when you hear the verdict.

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I second that salute. *salutes Kellogg*

I AM A LOST SOUL, CONDEMNED TO HAUNT THE DREAMS OF JOHN BRUCE "JACK" THOMPSON UNTIL HIS CRUSADE AGAINST VIDEO GAMES ENDS. SOMEONE, PLEASE! END MY SUFFERING!



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I AM DOOMED TO HAUNT JACK THOMPSON'S DREAMS UNTIL HIS CRUSADE AGAINST VIDEO GAMES ENDS.

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Hats off to you sir! If I lived in Florida, I would buy you a drink or two. Not too many people can endure that kind of crap.

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YOu did precisely what can bring a bully down, stood up to him, and, I'd say most of us applaud you for it.

I sincerely hope you do bring this fully circle and sue him into the ground. Honestly, so long as his family is left alone, I don't care about his own livelyhood.

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Yeah long ago I have stopped caring about Jack's unsuccessful career in trying to censor games, and became more concerned about all the unethical & immoral things he has done and gotten away with.

Here we have someone who goes on and on about how they "predicted" Columbine, how the next even bigger one is around the corner, interferes with on going police investigations and scrambles over dead bodies just to scream about how as a "school shooting expert" he knows video games caused this at a time when NO ONE KNOWS!  It is quite disturbing at how he jumps with joy over such tragic events and gleefully claims credit for it...

He never shows any interest in the OTHER issues surrounding things like V-tech or the Cody Posey case.  With Bully he used one anti-bullying group for easy PR, and like usual, left without contributing anything piratical or useful to them.  Same for legislation he helped passed, again using people and finding excuses so as not to be associated with failure("I have the evidence you need, but I'm not giving it to you," "It is your fault that you didn't defend my flawed 'first amendment proof' bill," etc).

I am GLAD that most people here didn't fall for his "post your name, number, etc" personal info grab, it was obvious he was going to do the same thing to us as he has done to people and lawyers like you.  Same can be said for his deliberately posting his personal info and trying to enrage/entrap people into contacting him.

Then there is the stalking and apparently nearly running of Neal Rogers off the road, and probably other things I missed...  But I am just going to stop there and say that it is scary how someone like him could get away with such for all these years, and now he is finally getting the main tool he loves to abuse taken away from him.

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I really respect the people who have stood up against Thompson in the bar complaint.  I feel for you that you had to go through all of this. I'm glad people here have been making you feel better :)

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Nothing but well wishes and pats on the back from me my friend. That took some major guts to stand up to him like this and I'm glad someone did. Someone take this guy out for a drink! He's earned it!

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Larry: Thanks so much for posting. As another of Thompson's victims, I can truly sympathize with what you and Al Cardenas and your families and associates went through.

Best to you going forward.

 
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