BREAKING - New York Governor Signs Video Game Bill Into Law

July 22, 2008 -

GamePolitics has confirmed that, last night, New York Gov. David Paterson (left) signed video game legislation passed by the Senate and Assembly into law.

UPDATE: We've obtained a copy of the Governor's press release on the video game bill signing:

Governor David A. Paterson signed a package of bills, many of which are focused on public safety and protecting the rights of New York residents. [One of these will] ensure the State will explore the negative effects of violent video games.

 

“We have the obligation to be constantly vigilant about amending our laws to protect the residents of New York State. Many of these bills will do just that by closing loopholes or creating new laws to enhance the quality of life for all New Yorkers,” said Governor Paterson...

 

...other bills signed by Governor Paterson are directly aimed at protecting children... A.11717 / S.6401-A [the video game bill] establishes an advisory council to conduct a study on the connection between interactive media and real-life violence in minors exposed to such media. This bill will also require new video game consoles to have parental lockout features by 2010, and mandate that games sold at retail disclose the ratings obtained from the gaming industry's voluntary rating system.

GamePolitics has received this comment from Richard Taylor, Senior Vice President of Communications and Research for the Entertainment Software Association:

The state has ignored legal precedent, common sense and the wishes of many New Yorkers in enacting this unnecessary bill. This government intrusion will cost taxpayers money and impose unconstitutional mandates for activities and technologies that are already voluntarily in place. It also unfairly singles out the videogame industry over all other forms of media. One wonders where this overreach by government in New York will end. If New York lawmakers feel it is the role of government to convene a government commission on game content, they could next turn to other content such as books, theater and film.

Will there be a court challenge? We've put this question to the ESA; they've told us that they are reviewing their options. For a variety of reasons, the main one being that the bill has no real teeth, it's entirely possible that the industry will just live with it.


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Now I don't have to get off my ass for the important shit anymore!

Whats next, ordering pizza from Xbox live?

Wait... I think that sounds like a good idea.

But I think voting should MAKE you get off your ass, and see outside or a second while you go vote. I mean, your picking the president of the United States of America for God's Sake... least you can do is drive down there and punch out a card.

Re: BREAKING - New York Governor Signs Video Game Bill Into Law

New York is where the statue of liberty is. The contents of the article above are enough to illustrate to what degree our freedoms are being constrained in this day and age. Yes, parents should be able to choose for their children, but I think this is going over the board. It kinda reminds me of the whole Michael Savage/O'Reilly mentality...which by the way is supported by millions of americans...It's ok for such pepople to make millions off of americans and then buy real estate in north cyprus and other offshore paradises, but of course they are there to "protect the american public". Give me a break! Let's continue to develop games and let O'Reilly talk away and get a hair transplant (sac ekimi). can anyone tell me when this is going to end? I think one way game developers can help with this cause is by uniting and using SEO to help people find the right information when they do searches on the web. Most gamer websites are in flash, and this causes problems on search engines.

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Btw, I think Atari and Midway will drop out too, but mostly travesti because  these guys have done nothing ttnet vitamin or little and need to start saving costs.

 

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I hate to break a chain/stream of coments but frankly I can't be arsed to read the torrent of above comments to see if my point has been raised, but here goes.

Anyone who thinks that there aren't any negative effects in playing video games is kidding themselves, fooling themselves because there is a negative impact of everything we do, and is more likely to give the fervant anti-gamers more ammo.

Lets take an established example shall we, footbal in this case (the soccer kind not american), if we look at all the negative impacts of football, breakage of limbs, straining of muscles mob violence and even death.

So clearly following this logic, football is the biggest peril that we know to man and should be clearly banned, made ilegal and all footbal couches should be sentanced to life in prisonment for the damage that they have caused society.

Clearly, this hasn't happened.

And why is this?

Because no study in football has been conducted without also looking into the positive aspects, rather than just the positive ones.

So anyone who says that games are completely harmless fun is obviously unaware to the geeks who can't hold down a social life, but clearly, this isn't true of all gamers, its the same with booze, one of the more social accetable bad habits, nearly everyone drinks but only a small percent of those people go on to comit DUI.

Another thing here, I see "unconsitional" thrown alot around here, and I also see the violent negative reaction that it is met with almost everywhere, but in this case i feel that the reaction is unjustified, for what I can make out what many in the anti-video game are trying to do is introduce laws which say that you can't be a 12 year old and walk into a store and buy GTA, and I whole heartily support them in this measure, and if you really feel that your, or your kids rights are being violated, buy it for your kids, really its that simple, the state deems that content A is not suitable for people a below a certain age and believe that the state is wrong in this conclusion, then by all means, buiy your son GTA, if you happen to be said son, I don't beleiev that as a child that you have the power to make a informed decesion and that the power of state and parent makes that decesion for you.

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Re: BREAKING - New York Governor Signs Video Game Bill Into Law

What of Independant developers/publishers who can't pay the thousands of dollars to have their game rated?  Shareware/freeware sold/distributed on racks at some retailers (specialty or general stores)?  Are they now banned from offering their products?  What of the compilation discs that offer a couple of hundred low level games on one disc?

And after seeing hate groups demolish the Anti-Bullying law in NC in favor of the legal Right to Abuse children verbally, mentally, physically, and/or sexually, "Protect The Children against the evil media products!" seriously means squat to me these days.

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"...are directly aimed at protecting children..."

Every f**king law these crazy nut politicians make seem to have that word "children", or "terrorist" in it.  They arent protecting anything from anyone.  I for one would never let these nut jobs take away civil liberties for some lame ass excuse like that.  I still can't beleive most people will just sit back and let these tyrants control them.  Wake up sheep.  They arent on your side. And it isnt about the "Children".  Don't let the Govt raise your kids.  Do it yourself.

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I'd probably be foaming in the mouth chanting the word "hypocrite" if whoever came up with this waste of time still plays MUDs and Pong and all that archaic crap.

Or maybe he's a closeted fan of Jack Thompson.

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I'm going to play devil's advocate here for a second - let me just go grab my hat.

These laws have an upside - to the uneducated masses perhaps some of them will get off our backs about obscenity and offensive content because now it's law... in New York... for stuff that already exists... that was voluntary... which meant it cost them nothing... as in $0...

Have they made any mention of these measures already being in place in any press statements at all? I'll lose what nanoscopic (that's what she said) faith I have in government if they didn't even bother to turn on a console... honestly, this would be akin to saying "All asian people are now required by law to be asian people" and not even investigating if they already are...

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An interesting and valid point sure, but you're making the distinction of it being the parent's choice. Government involvement nullifies that - what we have in place is a voluntary structure that is far easier to maintain and is much less costly to parties not completely involved (ie the taxpayers) not to mention a much greater knowledge of the medium at hand. Do you honestly expect a politician to make an informed decision about games when half their constituents think they're evil and the reason their grandchildren don't visit. What is the advantage of having tax payer funded government enforcement of a law when a store like Best Buy has the exact same outcome already? What is the point of having costly enforcement of video game ratings when the ESRB already does it? How much do you think the cost would be for an "investigation" into whether or not consoles have parental locks on them? It's needless (not to mention rather unsettling) government interferance trying to fix something that isn't broken that we're concerned about mate....

Re: BREAKING - New York Governor Signs Video Game Bill Into Law

Ok, well I guess we know who doesn't deserve to be re-elected. This politician is a piece of shit. Why the hell are we getting new stupid laws that just undermine rights of free speech. I feel we are losing are freedoms because of idiots and I wonder how much money stupid lobbyist funded that piece of shit of a governer! 

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Yikes,not good to be a New York gamer.

It'll fail.Politicians are like children:they have to faill several times over and over again to get the message.

If Ann Coulter cared,I wonder what she would say?

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I thought retailers already refused to stock unrated games?

The only useful thing i see here is the child lockout, but thats hardly necessary, im sure if they just ASKED the companies they would do it.

This law seems kind of frivolous.

Re: BREAKING - New York Governor Signs Video Game Bill Into Law

They don't even need to ask, the companies already do it.

Not the company's fault if the parents can't be bothered to read the manual.

Re: BREAKING - New York Governor Signs Video Game Bill Into Law

I hate to break a chain/stream of coments but frankly I can't be arsed to read the torrent of above comments to see if my point has been raised, but here goes.

Anyone who thinks that there aren't any negative effects in playing video games is kidding themselves, fooling themselves because there is a negative impact of everything we do, and is more likely to give the fervant anti-gamers more ammo.

Lets take an established example shall we, footbal in this case (the soccer kind not american), if we look at all the negative impacts of football, breakage of limbs, straining of muscles mob violence and even death.

So clearly following this logic, football is the biggest peril that we know to man and should be clearly banned, made ilegal and all footbal couches should be sentanced to life in prisonment for the damage that they have caused society.

Clearly, this hasn't happened.

And why is this?

Because no study in football has been conducted without also looking into the positive aspects, rather than just the positive ones.

So anyone who says that games are completely harmless fun is obviously unaware to the geeks who can't hold down a social life, but clearly, this isn't true of all gamers, its the same with booze, one of the more social accetable bad habits, nearly everyone drinks but only a small percent of those people go on to comit DUI.

Another thing here, I see "unconsitional" thrown alot around here, and I also see the violent negative reaction that it is met with almost everywhere, but in this case i feel that the reaction is unjustified, for what I can make out what many in the anti-video game are trying to do is introduce laws which say that you can't be a 12 year old and walk into a store and buy GTA, and I whole heartily support them in this measure, and if you really feel that your, or your kids rights are being violated, buy it for your kids, really its that simple, the state deems that content A is not suitable for people a below a certain age and believe that the state is wrong in this conclusion, then by all means, buiy your son GTA, if you happen to be said son, I don't beleiev that as a child that you have the power to make a informed decesion and that the power of state and parent makes that decesion for you.

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You are right in many forms, and I think there are many forms and things wich have its negative side. For me, office work should be a matter of public health, even more than sedentarism from watch TV or playing games, but there is not any effort to improve the life quality via a stupid law.

This law is utterly stupid and pointless, because they even can prove what are the negative effects of videogames, no other than "you train to kill people" bu11sh1t.

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Re: BREAKING - New York Governor Signs Video Game Bill Into Law

I got a kick out of this piece:

 WITHOUT  REQUIRING  PROOF  THAT  ANY

     PERSON  HAS,  IN  FACT,  BEEN  INJURED  OR  DAMAGED THEREBY.

Basically, if a console is sold without parental blocks (which, duh, come on), even if no damage is caused by it, a person can still get in trouble. Just kinda made me giggle when i read it.

 

This whole bill is stupid, it should be cut down NAO

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"Will there be a court challenge? We've put this question to the ESA; they've told us that they are reviewing their options. For a variety of reasons, the main one being that the bill has no real teeth, it's entirely possible that the industry will just live with it."

Is it...

a) Unconstituional?

b) Unfairly paints videogames as a threat to be regulated?

The answer is a resounding YES! But we understand, ESA. You're tired. After the miserable escapade of E3 you just want to take a nap. You go ahead and sleep, and when you wake up we'll try again to explain to you why big videogame companies are abandoning you.

Re: BREAKING - New York Governor Signs Video Game Bill Into Law

lol yep.  To not fight it would only set a dangerous precedent that future bills could cite. 

Re: BREAKING - New York Governor Signs Video Game Bill Into Law

I heard that the bill is basically like "All games must come in a box" in other words requires stuff the industry already does.

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Even MSN has an article about this bill:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25801638/

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The only thing this thing will change is there'll be a group who gets paid to say, "Video games are the devil."

Re: BREAKING - New York Governor Signs Video Game Bill Into Law

Awesome.  Jackasses in New York have signed yet another bill into effect that does nothing except waste a bit of time and a small portion of money. 

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>Governor David A. Paterson signed a package of bills, many of which are focused on public safety and protecting the rights of New York residents. [One of these will] ensure the State will explore the negative effects of violent video games.

>Governor David A. Paterson signed a package of bills, many of which are focused on public safety and protecting the rights of New York residents.

 

>protecting the rights of New York residents.

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Yeah really, who are they trying to kid? You can't protect someones rights by infringing them...

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i guess being blind can be a handicap, the governor is obviously "blind" to this since he doesnt know or can see that games already have these so called "laws" already and voluntarily in place

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Agreed Saladin. The Problem is the law is, at it's core, unconstiutional. It doesn't matter if it's being done already or if it's being done in other media or not. Fundemntaly by our constitution this SHOULD NOT BE LAW. It's that simple.

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Even if this bill has no teeth, it's the principal of it all. Video Games have once again taken the blame in society, and the government keeps trying to extend it's control over our constitutionally defended rights!

I'm sure in the end this bill will fail, but that it passed in the first place and will no doubt waste more tax-payer money is just ridiculous. Yes, we've seen this kind of thing before, but to see it again and again is just irks the hell out of me.

Is there no end to this inane crap?

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To be honest, I really don't see any point in getting all riled up about this. This bill alone doesn't seem to do anything but make mandatory what the industry has already been doing. I am concerned over this "council" thing they speak of. Sounds like a real good way to get biased scientific evidence. Also, there's the slippery slope. If they try to take this further we'll simply smack 'em back I guess.

 

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Reality/////////////////////////////////////Fantasy. Seems like a pretty thick line to me...

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Re: BREAKING - New York Governor Signs Video Game Bill Into Law

Oh, fantastic. Common sence never seems to apply anymore. :|

Re: BREAKING - New York Governor Signs Video Game Bill Into Law

Unfortunately, common sense left politics decades ago.

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Why bother?  Personally, I don't see much sense in challenging it. Fine, a state wasted taxpayer money with an unnecessary law.  hoo-ra, I'll call the guiness book of world records. It's not like it doesn't happen 20 times a day before lunch - the precedent has been set already, don't worry about it.  Personally, I only see the sense in one thing.  If we have any GP'ers that live in NY - you guys (and girls) remember this when he comes up for re-election.

 

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Crazy idea here.  In the event of the eventual lawsuit.  And following that, in the eventual suit for reimbursement for legal fees, how about the ESA stipulate that the funds come directly from the pockets of anyone and everyone that helped push this legislation through into law?  Politicians are not going to care what this may cost so long as the money comes out of someone else's pocket.  If the ESA truly wanted to put an end to unconstitutional laws relating to games, then they would attempt to hit the lawmakers somewhere where they will actually listen for once.  And face it, elections are not frequent enough for a suitable public backlash to be fully mounted in retaliation for such brazen wastes of time and money.

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As unnecessary as this is at least they aren't trying to criminalize the sale of violent games to minors and are letting the retailers decide whether they want to restrict sales. There's actually a law that requires all TV sets to have a V chip in them, so this is really no different although it is unnecessary since all next gen consoles have parental lock features in them. I do however wonder why they aren't studying other media forms such as movies and television.

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You have to love politicians trying to interfere, in capitalism. There are as reported systems in place for this already. By creating these over zealous attempts to fix non existent problems real things do not get done. The governor should rely on the makers to put a more ratings on the games or more parental knowledge. All these requirements will jack up the price of games and put off gamers.

Re: BREAKING - New York Governor Signs Video Game Bill Into Law

This bill will also require new video game consoles to have parental lockout features by 2010, and mandate that games sold at retail disclose the ratings obtained from the gaming industry's voluntary rating system.

 

 

WE ALREADY HAVE THESE YOU IDIOTS

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"[the video game bill] establishes an advisory council to conduct a study on the connection between interactive media and real-life violence in minors exposed to such media."  -- Does this sound to anyone else like they want to do their own version of the Byron report?  That could be a good thing if they come up with the same results.  A big high-profile government issue that says, "games are a-ok!" would do great things for the industry.  'Course, it'd be nice if they did the study before they issued the pointless child protection sanctions...

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I wish someone would sign a bill into law that requires me to breathe.. Doing it voluntarily all these years just hasn't had the effect I've wanted...

Sure.. Im still alive... but Im just not alive enough 

 

Re: BREAKING - New York Governor Signs Video Game Bill Into Law

Quick! USA needs a law in case of alien invasion...!!!

"it's entirely possible that the industry will just live with it."

If ESA and the game industry keep in silence, don´t be surpised next year they will pulling out another stupid and even more strong law like this. This is gonna spread like a flu in a classroom.

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Re: BREAKING - New York Governor Signs Video Game Bill Into Law

I did not see that coming, but I should have.

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Just plain stupidty at work, and at the tax payers expense.

They don't need a bill to study the effects of violence on children, they already did it and it came back negative, we need to bash them on the head with this until they get it through their thick skulls that it just doesn't work.

Fucking idiots

 

Re: BREAKING - New York Governor Signs Video Game Bill Into Law

"...they already did it and it came back negative..."

Really?  That's not what I read in the Surgeon General's report.  Nor is it the position that I've read from the American Psychological Association. 

http://www.apa.org/science/psa/sb-anderson.html

 

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"That games sold at retail disclose the ratings obtained from the gaming industry's voluntary rating system."

It seems to me that if you go get the rating, telling people what it is would be the next step.

Re: BREAKING - New York Governor Signs Video Game Bill Into Law

Aren't the only current consoles to not have parental control features not consoles at all, but handhelds?

Re: BREAKING - New York Governor Signs Video Game Bill Into Law

PSP has parental lock.

Re: BREAKING - New York Governor Signs Video Game Bill Into Law

The law does not require handhelds and PCs to have parental locks.

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SleakerTo the point that it seems they have completely lost what it means to be for-community, and having transparency. Along with dumping restrictive EULA's onto people.08/21/2014 - 8:53am
E. Zachary KnightWhat is Bukkit and why should I care?08/21/2014 - 8:53am
SleakerMinecraft community exploded again today. Apparently Mojang owns all of Bukkit, and never put out a statement saying as such 2 years ago when they acquired them. I have to say, their transition from indie has been rough.08/21/2014 - 8:52am
james_fudgeThere aren't many left in America08/21/2014 - 1:50am
MechaTama31I sure have. Dorky's barcade in Tacoma, WA.08/20/2014 - 5:56pm
Matthew WilsonI have not been to a arcade in years. I know arcades are still big in japan.08/20/2014 - 5:38pm
Sleaker@AE - Ah no it's called GroundKontrol - I was just referring to it as a Bar-Arcade.08/20/2014 - 4:39pm
 

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