Audience Member Who Made Aussie Pols Look Silly Over Fallout 3 is Website Editor
Audience Member Who Made Aussie Pols Look Silly Over Fallout 3 is Website Editor
July 28, 2008
On Friday GamePolitics reported on an incredibly clueless TV performance by a panel of Australian politicians and media types.
For example, while bashing video games at length, the panel members did not even seem to realize that Australia has a rating system for games in place.
Their ill-informed rhetoric came in response to an audience question about game censorship and Australia's proposed R18 rating. As it turns out, the guy wearing the Fallout 3 t-shirt who asked the question (left) is an editor with Aussie site GameArena. "Joaby" describes the experience:
As you can see, what happened was far from a serious discussion on the merits of an R Rating for video games and government censorship. Instead, at large, the panelists were led into a discussion of violent video games and, due to archaic views of the average gamer, the discussion primarily devolved into the same "protect the children" commentary the public has heard for years.
Fortunately, what occurred on the show only served to highlight the exact issue at hand... Due to the format of the show it was nigh on impossible for me to refute even the more ludicrous and fantastic claims (Avatar: the rape game by Barnaby Joyce was particularly hard to keep quiet about) meaning the show simply continued to propagate the same antiquated idea already present in the general media about video games.
GP: Check out Friday's story if you missed the video. It's a classic. We've also created a helpful transcript to go along with the video...
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Posted 02/09/10 at 12:17pm
Valdearg: There's a fine line between Job Descrimination and Letting them practice their religious "right" to discriminate.
Valdearg: There's a fine line between Job Descrimination and Letting them practice their religious "right" to discriminate.
Posted 02/09/10 at 12:15pm
gellymatos: Oh, and they are worried that "would restrict the right of a church school to employ a head teacher who shared their faith"
gellymatos: Oh, and they are worried that "would restrict the right of a church school to employ a head teacher who shared their faith"
Posted 02/09/10 at 12:15pm
Andrew Eisen: If it is separate, then the church has every right to discriminate against its own members. Put another way, the gov't has no say who the church lets in its own organization.
Andrew Eisen: If it is separate, then the church has every right to discriminate against its own members. Put another way, the gov't has no say who the church lets in its own organization.
Posted 02/09/10 at 12:14pm
Andrew Eisen: Haven't read the law and not sure how it works overseas but is there a separation of church and state?
Andrew Eisen: Haven't read the law and not sure how it works overseas but is there a separation of church and state?
Posted 02/09/10 at 12:14pm
Valdearg: Like I said. He wants the Church to retain it's right to Job Discrimination. He want's the right to be above the law, and discriminate against gays. ALSO, there were provisions in the bill to prevent that scenario, with the priesthood.
Valdearg: Like I said. He wants the Church to retain it's right to Job Discrimination. He want's the right to be above the law, and discriminate against gays. ALSO, there were provisions in the bill to prevent that scenario, with the priesthood.
Posted 02/09/10 at 12:12pm
gellymatos: How about actually reading the article: " which they fear will make them admit homosexuals to the priesthood".
gellymatos: How about actually reading the article: " which they fear will make them admit homosexuals to the priesthood".
Posted 02/09/10 at 12:09pm
Valdearg: So, yeah.. From your official leader, your church OPPOSES equality.
Valdearg: So, yeah.. From your official leader, your church OPPOSES equality.
Posted 02/09/10 at 12:09pm
Valdearg: He wants the church to be able to discriminate against gays. He wants the chruch to be above the law, when it comes to discrimination.
Valdearg: He wants the church to be able to discriminate against gays. He wants the chruch to be above the law, when it comes to discrimination.
Posted 02/09/10 at 12:07pm
Valdearg: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/7133053/Pope-attacks-Labour-laws-on-equality.html
Valdearg: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/7133053/Pope-attacks-Labour-laws-on-equality.html
Posted 02/09/10 at 12:07pm
gellymatos: And I never said "we're totally with you guys".
gellymatos: And I never said "we're totally with you guys".
Posted 02/09/10 at 12:07pm
Valdearg: Oh, BTW. Here's the POPE coming out in SUPPORT of Employment Discrimination of Gays.
Valdearg: Oh, BTW. Here's the POPE coming out in SUPPORT of Employment Discrimination of Gays.
Posted 02/09/10 at 12:06pm
gellymatos: Sorry we're not totally on one side or another. It's how we are. It's our belief.
gellymatos: Sorry we're not totally on one side or another. It's how we are. It's our belief.
Posted 02/09/10 at 12:04pm
Valdearg: You can't just pick and choose what rights you want to support and say "Ok, we're totally with you guys, now!"
Valdearg: You can't just pick and choose what rights you want to support and say "Ok, we're totally with you guys, now!"
Posted 02/09/10 at 12:04pm
Valdearg: @Gelly: Again, until your church supports Gay Rights 100%, you are opposed to gay rights.
Valdearg: @Gelly: Again, until your church supports Gay Rights 100%, you are opposed to gay rights.
Posted 02/09/10 at 12:00pm
Andrew Eisen: And when all is said and done, the opposition to the hate crime law is going to lose.
Andrew Eisen: And when all is said and done, the opposition to the hate crime law is going to lose.
Posted 02/09/10 at 11:56am
gellymatos: to us as a whole. One church may get active due to local happenings, but we have bigger concerns faith wise.
gellymatos: to us as a whole. One church may get active due to local happenings, but we have bigger concerns faith wise.
Posted 02/09/10 at 11:55am
gellymatos: On a side note, the denominations that as a whole that oppose gay rights in general aren't catholic. It isn't as big a deal...
gellymatos: On a side note, the denominations that as a whole that oppose gay rights in general aren't catholic. It isn't as big a deal...
Posted 02/09/10 at 11:53am
gellymatos: ... we oppose the hate. I have opposed it. I have seen others of my faith oppose it. It's what we're supposed to do.
gellymatos: ... we oppose the hate. I have opposed it. I have seen others of my faith oppose it. It's what we're supposed to do.
Posted 02/09/10 at 11:52am
gellymatos: persecution or catholics opposing gay marriage? Look, I personally know from my experience and what I was taught and read that..
gellymatos: persecution or catholics opposing gay marriage? Look, I personally know from my experience and what I was taught and read that..
Posted 02/09/10 at 11:50am
gellymatos: Two reasons: 1. We don't brag about it or really spread around that we do. 2. What makes better news? Catholics opposing gay...
gellymatos: Two reasons: 1. We don't brag about it or really spread around that we do. 2. What makes better news? Catholics opposing gay...
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I gotta say, I disagree with the headline. I thought he was made to look silly by the pols. We expect that kind of crap from politicians, but he severely dropped the ball, twice. He was asked to verify the idiotic summary of the game the host gave, which he did, and was then given a second chance to defend the game and was completely thrown by the question.
Granted, I'm sure being there seeing it all go on was frustrating and the show's format didn't leave him much to work with, but he let the chances he was given sail right on by.
Q & A actually screens questions pre-show and buggers around with them to put the question in a way that doesn't make the panel look like idiots. He stood ZERO chance at all with the Pollies.
The show was a disgrace. I agree that he did drop the ball a little, but you have to admit, when presented with such stupidity and vitriol, you tend to get left speechless.
WHile the premise the host gave of the game was not thorough, it was accurate it its representation of the gameplay. It could have been expounded upon. But there wasn't really the time to explain things properly.
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It wasn't really that accurate. The politician boiled the game down to "you roam post apocalyptic Washington D.C. looking for people to kill and use the armband thing to shoot up drugs to allow you to kill more people". That's a rather large misrepresentation of the game. From what we've been told of the game you can talk your way out of most situations, if you play your character that way. Of course, there's no real way to know for sure until we get to play it in October and we see for ourselves how much of that survived.
Admittedly, it's difficult to offer a proper rebuttal to a generalization like that when even the main plotline of the game still isn't known.
Good lord, I just watched the video. 'The average gamer is over the age of 30'? That's news to ME.
Also, yes, he didn't have much of a chance to clarify the premise the host gave, but that is the bare bones of it. And he was given a direct question... 'Why would you want to play it'...and he was (rightly) thrown by the question. 'And how much time do you think you and your friends would be playing this sort of game?' Clearly she was sizing him up as being an 'at risk' person. That is, 'at risk' of being one of those evil, murdering gamers.
The joke about the 'queen having a Wii'...Welcome to the jokes of TWO YEARS AGO, aussie politicians.
I thought them giggling like six year olds when that was said proved just how out of touch they are.
I think he made the politicians look silly to those who knew about the game, but, as he himself said, the message getting across to the average person who doesn't know the details of the game was still the usual political tripe.
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YES.
Now I don't have to get off my ass for the important shit anymore!
Whats next, ordering pizza from Xbox live?
Wait... I think that sounds like a good idea.
But I think voting should MAKE you get off your ass, and see outside or a second while you go vote. I mean, your picking the president of the United States of America for God's Sake... least you can do is drive down there and punch out a card.