Audience Member Who Made Aussie Pols Look Silly Over Fallout 3 is Website Editor

July 28, 2008 -

On Friday GamePolitics reported on an incredibly clueless TV performance by a panel of Australian politicians and media types. 

For example, while bashing video games at length, the panel members did not even seem to realize that Australia has a rating system for games in place.

Their ill-informed rhetoric came in response to an audience question about game censorship and Australia's proposed R18 rating. As it turns out, the guy wearing the Fallout 3 t-shirt who asked the question (left) is an editor with Aussie site GameArena. "Joaby" describes the experience:

As you can see, what happened was far from a serious discussion on the merits of an R Rating for video games and government censorship. Instead, at large, the panelists were led into a discussion of violent video games and, due to archaic views of the average gamer, the discussion primarily devolved into the same "protect the children" commentary the public has heard for years.

Fortunately, what occurred on the show only served to highlight the exact issue at hand... Due to the format of the show it was nigh on impossible for me to refute even the more ludicrous and fantastic claims (Avatar: the rape game by Barnaby Joyce was particularly hard to keep quiet about) meaning the show simply continued to propagate the same antiquated idea already present in the general media about video games.
 

GP: Check out Friday's story if you missed the video. It's a classic. We've also created a helpful transcript to go along with the video...


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Re: Audience Member Who Made Aussie Pols Look Silly Over

Thanks good job;

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YES.

Now I don't have to get off my ass for the important shit anymore!

Whats next, ordering pizza from Xbox live?

Wait... I think that sounds like a good idea.

But I think voting should MAKE you get off your ass, and see outside or a second while you go vote. I mean, your picking the president of the United States of America for God's Sake... least you can do is drive down there and punch out a card.

Re: Audience Member Who Made Aussie Pols Look Silly Over

I'm all for freedom of ttnet vitamin speech and allowing rent a car game makers to put whatever they want in games, but there's one thing about this app that has me scratching my head.  Correct me if I'm wrong, but from araç kiralama the previous article araba kiralama on this I gathered that players can use Google maps in-game to find the other (real-life?) dealers in their area.  If this is the case, has travesti anyone considered what's stopping someone from using this app to actually move drugs between hands for reals?

But majority araba kiralama of their outrage araç kiralama stems from what it could DO TO children, not the content itself.  Talk to one of these people and you'll find they don't think any books kiralık araba should be banned from children.  Mention American Psycho and they talk about kiralık araç the redeeming value of using imagination to construct a story.  Reading, no matter what the content, is largely viewed as a consequenceless activity for people of any age.  The reason why I mention American Psycho is because of the content itself.  Gaming never has and likely never will have any scenes where someone has sex with a severed head.  Not gonna happen.  Yet despite this, they'll fight tooth and nail to protect their children from two boys kissing in Bully but whatever they read is harmless... yeah.

The entire arguement is kiralık oto based upon a social normality inflicted by luddites who can't figure out the controls for Halo so it's frightening and terrifying and obviously the cause of youth violence on the rise even though, in reality, it's in decline (which is actually a HUGE suprise given minibüs kiralama the economies status).  In  a perfect world, we would have parents that actually parent.  The idea of sales restrictions on media on oto kiralama any form to accomidate parental unwillingness to get involved with their child's life is the real problem to me.  Here I am, 32 years old, and being held up at a self-scan rent a car needing to show ID before I can buy a $10 M rated game all because Soccer Momthra can't be bothered to look at the crap Billy Genericallystupidson does in his free time.  It's too hard for her, so I have to suffer?

Re: Audience Member Who Made Aussie Pols Look Silly Over

FEAR... It is always about FEAR... These politicians use fear to scare their audience when it comes to videogames. 40 years ago, it was about the fear of violent movies and comic books making kids turn into violent criminals. Today ever since Columbine in 1999, it is about violent Videogames making people violent. It is as if these politicians think of gamers like us as potential mass murderes. And they use that fear to convince people not to listen to our side of the debate. Fear is a really effective Persuasive Language technique that we as gamers all have to face when these politicians go on their scare tactics.

Re: Audience Member Who Made Aussie Pols Look Silly Over

I think he made the politicians look silly to those who knew about the game, but, as he himself said, the message getting across to the average person who doesn't know the details of the game was still the usual political tripe.

Re: Audience Member Who Made Aussie Pols Look Silly Over

Good lord, I just watched the video.  'The average gamer is over the age of 30'? That's news to ME. 

Re: Audience Member Who Made Aussie Pols Look Silly Over

Also, yes, he didn't have much of a chance to clarify the premise the host gave, but that is the bare bones of it.  And he was given a direct question... 'Why would you want to play it'...and he was (rightly) thrown by the question.  'And how much time do you think you and your friends would be playing this sort of game?'  Clearly she was sizing him up as being an 'at risk' person.  That is, 'at risk' of being one of those evil, murdering gamers.

The joke about the 'queen having a Wii'...Welcome to the jokes of TWO YEARS AGO, aussie politicians.

Re: Audience Member Who Made Aussie Pols Look Silly Over

I thought them giggling like six year olds when that was said proved just how out of touch they are.

Re: Audience Member Who Made Aussie Pols Look Silly Over

The show was a disgrace. I agree that he did drop the ball a little, but you have to admit, when presented with such stupidity and vitriol, you tend to get left speechless.

WHile the premise the host gave of the game was not thorough, it was accurate it its representation of the gameplay. It could have been expounded upon. But there wasn't really the time to explain things properly.

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Re: Audience Member Who Made Aussie Pols Look Silly Over

It wasn't really that accurate.  The politician boiled the game down to "you roam post apocalyptic Washington D.C. looking for people to kill and use the armband thing to shoot up drugs to allow you to kill more people".  That's a rather large misrepresentation of the game.  From what we've been told of the game you can talk your way out of most situations, if you play your character that way.  Of course, there's no real way to know for sure until we get to play it in October and we see for ourselves how much of that survived.

Admittedly, it's difficult to offer a proper rebuttal to a generalization like that when even the main plotline of the game still isn't known.

Re: Audience Member Who Made Aussie Pols Look Silly Over

I gotta say, I disagree with the headline.  I thought he was made to look silly by the pols.  We expect that kind of crap from politicians, but he severely dropped the ball, twice.  He was asked to verify the idiotic summary of the game the host gave, which he did, and was then given a second chance to defend the game and was completely thrown by the question.

Granted, I'm sure being there seeing it all go on was frustrating and the show's format didn't leave him much to work with, but he let the chances he was given sail right on by.

Re: Audience Member Who Made Aussie Pols Look Silly Over

Q & A actually screens questions pre-show and buggers around with them to put the question in a way that doesn't make the panel look like idiots. He stood ZERO chance at all with the Pollies.

 

 
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