Judge Pops a Cap in Hot Coffee Class-Action Settlement

July 31, 2008 -

So you handled all the killing and thuggery in GTA San Andreas but found yourself traumatized by the hidden, pixelated sex?

Don't spend your Hot Coffee lawsuit settlement money just yet.

The New York Times reports that the Hot Coffee class-action lawsuit, which was nearing settlement, has been tossed by a federal judge:

...Judge Shirley Wohl Kram wrote that purchasers of the game could not be lumped together in a class action. The claims of members of the proposed class would be affected by the law in each purchaser’s home state, Judge Kram wrote, and therefore could not be resolved in a single proceeding in federal court in New York.

 

“Accordingly, the court decertifies the settlement class on the grounds that common issues do not predominate over individualized issues,” the judge wrote.

 

The judge’s latest decision undermines a settlement agreement reached between lawyers for purchasers of the game who contended they were offended by the hidden scenes, on the one hand, and lawyers for the game’s makers, Take-Two Interactive Software and Rockstar Games.

The NY Times notes that less than 3,000 GTA San Andreas buyers had applied to join the lawsuit. The paper had previously questioned the size of the plaintiffs' legal fees in the case. Meanwhile, attorney Ted Frank of Overlawyered writes:

Take Two spent millions negotiating and administering a settlement because the court refused to rule on its decertification motion last year; that wasted effort demonstrates why it is important for courts to resolve certification questions early in the case. But with no certified class, there can be no class settlement...

Frank, who joined the class and filed objections to the proposed settlement, wonders whether there will be an appeal.

The judge's ruling may be found here...


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Re: Judge Pops a Cap in Hot Coffee Class-Action Settlement

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Re: Judge Pops a Cap in Hot Coffee Class-Action Settlement

I reckon Take 2 should sue consumers for their money back. Give those litigious moronic yanks who applied, a taste of their own medicine... as I wait for fallout 3 LOL.

Re: Judge Pops a Cap in Hot Coffee Class-Action Settlement

We need that list of idiots who tried to sue T2 -- my cousing Niko Bellic will know what to do with them!

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Yeah I'm real sure those 3,000 jackasses were reeeeaaal offended by it @_@

Re: Judge Pops a Cap in Hot Coffee Class-Action Settlement

So the 3,000 people got about as much as they would have and the lawyers also get nothing? awesome.

Hope T2 can get their legal fees back...

Re: Judge Pops a Cap in Hot Coffee Class-Action Settlement

So what you're telling us is that nothing at all has happened as a result of the incident that was declared, by at least one individual, as the end of the entire gaming industry?

Awesome.

 

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Re: Judge Pops a Cap in Hot Coffee Class-Action Settlement

I walked in on someone accessing this content.  I did not go out of my way to access it.  I found myself aroused yet offended at the same time.  I am no longer turned on by my wife because I can't get the scene out of my head.   My marriage is ruined!   

 

Re: Judge Pops a Cap in Hot Coffee Class-Action Settlement

"Well, if the suit is dropped, T2 can move to be declared the victor with prejudice and ask for legal fees. "

Not in the United States they can't.  T2 is left holding the bag for those costs.  Support tort reform.

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It's about damn time.

This whole entire lawsuit was just a big scam anyway. The lawyers would have been the only ones to really benefit significantly from it.

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It would be nice, then the greedy bastards would have a taste of their own medicine. It'd be nice if the side that brought upon a lawsuit always had to pay the legal fees of the loser if they (the plaintiff) lost..

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"Would love to see the legal firms and folks that put this nonsense lawsuit up pay out of pocket for the millions T2 had to invest into a defense against a bogus lawsuit."

That would be fantastic. :)

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Well, if the suit is dropped, T2 can move to be declared the victor with prejudice and ask for legal fees.  Would love to see the legal firms and folks that put this nonsense lawsuit up pay out of pocket for the millions T2 had to invest into a defense against a bogus lawsuit.  Hell, I would even point out that the plaintiffs were trying to do some court-shopping by having NY court be the battleground for the entire nation.  I am a little relieved to see this handed down though.  Better late than never.

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Re: Judge Pops a Cap in Hot Coffee Class-Action Settlement

Finally, someone with some common sense gets involved.

Re: Judge Pops a Cap in Hot Coffee Class-Action Settlement

These guys deserve to lose every penny they can on this lawsuit for trying to sue over something you have to go out of your way to get to.

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No, you can't have millions of dollars in legal fees.  Not yours.

This ruling should have been made a year ago.

Re: Judge Pops a Cap in Hot Coffee Class-Action Settlement

To me, justice is those hoping to profit off the scare getting nothing.

Re: Judge Pops a Cap in Hot Coffee Class-Action Settlement

Good. It was a stupid lawsuit anyway.

Defendant: I went out of my way to hack my console and my gmae disk to access this content and I was offended by what I sought to find.

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Andrew EisenMost are really just a look at the crap that happened the previous day when Sarkeesian's new video came out and almost all are exceedingly clear that they're talking about the specific gamers who are being obnoxious.09/18/2014 - 5:17pm
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Michael Chandrawould clearly not apply, since they weren't used as shield. It's more "hey, just because I don't agree with you doesn't mean I'm CISWASP."09/18/2014 - 5:08pm
Michael ChandraIn comparison though, the more extreme views would be fairly countered with "you don't speak for me". But the batshit crazy people tend not to even use others as the shield to defend their batshit crazy ideas and insults, so at that point #notyourshield09/18/2014 - 5:06pm
Michael ChandraWhich is of course real silly because when there are so many horrible stories and statistics too, it's utterly irrelevant whether some don't mind.09/18/2014 - 5:00pm
Michael ChandraIn this context it would be women claiming they don't see a problem with the stuff, so stop claiming women don't like it!09/18/2014 - 5:00pm
Michael Chandra"You don't speak for me. I am not your shield. You cannot use me to defend your own opinion."09/18/2014 - 4:59pm
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Michael ChandraKrono did just a bit earlier in the shoutbox prh99.09/18/2014 - 4:56pm
Andrew EisenI still don't get the what #notyourshield is supposed to mean. Who is unfairly using who as a shield for what?09/18/2014 - 4:43pm
prh99Didn't said anything about #notyourshield or it's origins. Assuming your comment was directed at me.09/18/2014 - 4:28pm
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Michael Chandra#NotYourShield was kickstarted by 4chan people, so don't go and make nonsense claims about that.09/18/2014 - 4:20pm
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