Spore + Porn = Sporn

July 31, 2008 -

Will Wright's Spore, due for a September 7th release, is one of most anticipated PC titles ever.

But, as CNN reports, some users of the Creature Creator utility, released last month, have built animals which are apparently intent on breeding. Or, at least coupling.

...Buried among the more wholesome attempts [at Spore creature creation] were two-legged dancing testicles, a "giant breast monster" and a four-legged, "phallic fornication machine," for starters...

 

For EA, the developer of "Spore," it's the downside to tapping into the booming user-generated content arena, which has made sites like YouTube, Flickr, MySpace, Facebook and Second Life so popular... Many of the popular user-generated content sites have faced similar challenges in trying to control obscene material...

 

The creatures are not just static. Users can create animated scenarios for the characters to engage in, some of which include sexually graphic acts.

When EA got word of the "Sporn" creations, it began working with YouTube to pull them down. Spore executive producer Lucy Bradshaw told CNN:

Whether it's modeling clay, dolls or crayons, a small number of people can be counted on to use it for something vulgar.

CNN also spoke to the "Spornmaster," a 37-year-old man who has created a number of reproductively equipped Sporn creatures:

I admit it is silly and juvenile, but I don't think there's anything perverted, vile or awful about it. If people find it offensive, they can simply not search for it online. No one is forcing anyone to see this content.

One Spore fan told CNN:

I consider this very similar to child pornography, at least to the extent of distributing the material to children.

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Comments

Re: Spore + Porn = Sporn

Hmm, hey conservatives, if it offends you so much, don't look at it and fuck off

Re: Spore + Porn = Sporn

This isn't as big of deal as they are making it out to be. People over react.  If parents are afraid of why content might be in the game, don't buy it.

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If they're upset with the creators of Spore, perhaps they should rethink their argument....

 

Providing a means whereby obscene user-generated content can be posted and seen by children.... sort of like THE INTERNET.

 

Stupid communists.

Re: Spore + Porn = Sporn

Any forum with user generated content is bound to have a big penis in it, somewhere.

To whit:

http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2005/09/02/

Re: Spore + Porn = Sporn

Oh man, I laughed at that, probably more then I should have.

Re: Spore + Porn = Sporn

Did anyone seriously expect that this wasn't going to happen? Seriously?

In other news, SomethingAwful ran a competition on Spore creatures a few weeks back, and a number of "sporn" monsters showed up.

Re: Spore + Porn = Sporn

PEDOBEAR SPORE NO!

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How the fuck are testicles and jiggling breasts obscene?!

This is the reason why so many kids have such insecurities of themselves, I for one blame the media!

Re: Spore + Porn = Sporn

Well I guess we have no choice but to kill everyone who has nipples and/or genitals. For the children...damnit.

 

 

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Reality/////////////////////////////////////Fantasy. Seems like a pretty thick line to me...

Re: Spore + Porn = Sporn

Why are people so offended by boobs and penises? I mean, half the population of the world has a penis and I'd wager that the entire population has seen one at some time in their life. As for boobs and nipples - the entire population of the world has breasts - what's the big deal?

Re: Spore + Porn = Sporn

The big deal is these idiots consider any body part that has a reproductive purpose is filthy and dirty. They consider our greatest expressions of love and lust to be obscene and these acts for any other reason than reproduction to be a crime.

Basically they are christians, and christians are ALWAYS looking for an excuse to bitch.

Re: Spore + Porn = Sporn

Basically they are religious, and many religious groups are ALWAYS looking for an excuse to bitch.

Fixed.

Re: Spore + Porn = Sporn

QUICK! SOMEONE EXPLAIN TO ME HOW THE HELL THIS STUFF IS LIKE CHILD PORN!

 

-Entertainment isn't the reason the world sucks. It's the reason we know the world sucks. For information on games and psychology, look up: Jonathan Freedman(2002)Block & Crain(2007)Grand Theft Childhood, by Harvard researchers Larry Kutner&Cheryl Olson

Reality/////////////////////////////////////Fantasy. Seems like a pretty thick line to me...

Re: Spore + Porn = Sporn

First off any time you provide user creator tools then there will inevitably be some people who will, for various reasons, make sexual stuff. It's human nature.

Secondly I've seen a few of these "sporn" creatures and really they aren't that bad. Some of them are only sexual in the vaugest of senses. And it's not like they can do any sexual actions.

And lastly while it is immature, it's not anything new. We all have genitals of some kind. If your kid is playing spore then are probably already smart enough to be well aware of this.

Really it's not that big a deal.

Re: Spore + Porn = Sporn

Porn on the internet?

This shocking piece of news is quite well flabbergasting to me. Such a phenomenon may require whole weeks of dedicated research to get to the very core of it and I in a self-less act to benefit science shall partake in this dangerous research.

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Re: Spore + Porn = Sporn

You, sir, are a hero to us all.

Re: Spore + Porn = Sporn

I'll just point to an xkcd comic...

imgs.xkcd.com/comics/penises.png

 Enough said.

Re: Spore + Porn = Sporn

Jeez!  Honestly, I'm speechless.  Just... Jeez!

I mean, just leave gamers alone!  If we want to build huge phalluses in Spore, what's the harm?  Honestly, I bet some folks keep their eyes shut tight while showering in case they notice that they have 'naughty bits'.

Re: Spore + Porn = Sporn

There is a huge grey area between "regular" creations and "obcene" creations.  Trying to censor them is wrong for all the same reasons censorship is wrong for all other forms of media.

Re: Spore + Porn = Sporn

Does that mean we have to castrate children? A disturbing and painful thought.

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Apparently children have genitals. This could also be construed as child porn. The world will not be safe until the groin area of all children is as smooth as a Barbie/Ken doll.

 

 

Re: Spore + Porn = Sporn

Anyone surprised by Sporn has obviously not been on the internet very long.

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As someone who is endlessly amused by hentai, i find this spectacular.

One of my favorite hentai spoofs is this 'interview' with two hentai characters. The real life dynamic between the school girl and the tentacle monster is quite different than what you'd expect. Poor guy is totally brow beaten.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_15pwhMJjk

higher quality version:

http://blip.tv/file/390841?filename=SeattleUntimely-September21st2007The...

"I need to find myself a real squid"

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"Endlessly amused"...  Does that translate to "fapping constantly"?

Re: Spore + Porn = Sporn

I had the same thought...

Re: Spore + Porn = Sporn

I always knew that Spore's universe would be full of d***s

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People like Fox and CNN should not be allowed to talk about video games. They never get it right.

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Lol the penismonster had me laughing hard for about a min. And comparing this to child pornography, that's just missinformation on their part. Child pornagraphy is not when you show children porn or nudity. If we should compare spore to child pornagraphy then maybe it should be when they make a population of rape-beasts with children stuck at their genitalias at weird angles.

But i'd probly think that qualifies as pretty fun too.

And what are they going to do about it? Put a +18 tag on spore because some users can make sporn out of it, well then i think they should put a goddamn 18+ tag on papper and pens cause some users make hentai.

Maybe we should put freaking 18+ tags on our brains.

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People have been talking about making penis monsters since Spore was announced. End of discussion.

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 These may be crude and vulgar to some people, but its a persons choice to make these. When the game comes out they will probably just give the option to flag "offensive" looking creatures anyway.

This is also why the ESRB can't rate what happens online. So don't bother trying to make this game AO.  

Re: Spore + Porn = Sporn

Maybe the best soultion is to make it illegal for anyone under 18 to go online.

Re: Spore + Porn = Sporn

The guy who compared it to child porn is making a semantic error.  Child porn is pornography featuring children.  He means distributing porn to children... a whole different fish. 

 

Not that that isn't a stupid charge either, but lets not take seriously such ignorance.

Re: Spore + Porn = Sporn

The guy is just linking videogames = kids.

And of course, sex is forbidden knowledge gor children.

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Re: Spore + Porn = Sporn

It is silly that I can have sex in Michigan at 16, but can't look at a PICTURE of a naked girl until I'm 18...or if any evidence of my sex is recorded, it's illegal

Re: Spore + Porn = Sporn

 I thought the same thing when I first read those comments. It can't be child porn because there are no children in it. It's not even regular porn, more like freaky alien porn. And as we all know, distributing freaky alien porn to minors is not a crime.

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It isn't? Oh snap, I better get to work! *grabs drawing tablet*

Re: Spore + Porn = Sporn

Just as well they haven't seen the fuck slug yet! Heads may asplode.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqyxCwngvgk&watch_response

 

Re: Spore + Porn = Sporn

You know... you'd think that somebody would point out that you're supposed to be creating creatures that go on to evolve and develop.

How, pray tell, are they supposed to *do* that if they don't have....

Re: Spore + Porn = Sporn

Oh, and just wanted to ask, was there a single person outside of EA who, from the announcement of the creature creator, was surprised when this started happening? Just curious.

Re: Spore + Porn = Sporn

I think it's pretty obvious what happened here: Will Wright was clearly inspired by Super Metroid sub-boss Spore Spawn to make an organic screw-simulator.  Therefore, Samus Aran is guilty of corrupting our kids.  I mean, look at what she did to that poor, innocent baby Metroid, all acting like a surrogate mother and then forkin' it over to the scientists in a tube.  In a tube!

ps. has anyone told the media about Goatse yet?

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Re: Spore + Porn = Sporn

LOL At least it wasn't a series of tubes, or we'd all be in trouble ;)

Re: Spore + Porn = Sporn

As the man said, give any person building material and sooner or later you will end up with a willy. It's a fact of human nature.

Maybe posting them on YouTube was a bad idea in retrospect, but they weren't put there for the people who didn't find them funny.

Re: Spore + Porn = Sporn

When I first started talking to people about Spore and the creature creator, a stunning number of them said:

"Everybody's going to make breast monsters and penis monsters."

Which, as we all know, really translates into:

"I'm going to make breast monsters and penis monsters."

Because the only way people like this get through the day is by convincing themselves that everyone else is just like them.

Personally, I'm not going to waste my time trying to animate a penis. I cannot think of anything interesting that might come of that. But all these other people are out there animating penises, and even though it's not particularly interesting, it still makes me giggle.

You're allowed to think it's funny, you know. Just because it's juvenile and immature doesn't mean it can't be funny. Here's one of my favorite jokes of all time:

Q: Why did the chicken cross the road?
A: Because it was on fire.

It's all well and good to think that it's stupid and a waste of time to animate a penis, but it's already been done, and these people weren't exactly going to be curing cancer anyway. If the best they can offer the world is a penis monster and a fart joke, why complain about it? Maybe one of them is a genius, and has animated the best penis monster that will ever be made. Maybe it will be in a museum of penis monsters, and artists will study his method of making penis monsters in accredited scholarly institutions.

It could happen. The vast majority of artists learn how to draw a penis from Michelangelo's David. That's the most famous penis in the world today. Even Ron Jeremy's isn't that famous.

Re: Spore + Porn = Sporn

The first thing I made on spore was a giant penis monster. But I DIDNT put it up to be shared. Likewise I bet most people did. Hell, I can just go look up some sporn and SHOW a great deal of people did, and in todays society alot of people CAN be called "everybody". When I say everybody I dont mean every single person in the world is gonna make sporn, but alot of people are. It is just a forgone conclusion, one that can be found simply by going to places like 4chan.

Re: Spore + Porn = Sporn

If I had the creature creator, I admit I probably would've made something silly or juvenile, because those are easier to create than something original, because I know what they look like. I wouldn't make all of my creations walking testicles, but a few would definatly be jokes.

Re: Spore + Porn = Sporn

The catch of it is like with the Elder Scrolls: Oblivion controversy. In that case, third party users created a skin for female characters that could have them totally naked. The game was re-evaluated, and given an M rating from a T rating. In this case, because there is user created content that graphically depicts human genitals and/or sexual acts the ESRB could be forced to label this M or AO.

Childishness is one thing, but consider the effects done the road before you dismiss it.

 

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Re: Spore + Porn = Sporn

There was a third party mod that unlocked a way to make all the female characters topless. The problem was that the topless texture was in the game to begin with. The ESRB re-reviewed the content and found, not was there the topless texture, but much more blood and gore than there was in the version they originally reviewed. This has NOTHING to do with user generated content and everything to do with what people decide to put in the games.

The lesson is, if you're going to remove content from a game, remove the whole thing and not just the way to activate it.

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Re: Spore + Porn = Sporn

In this case, because there is user created content that graphically depicts human genitals and/or sexual acts the ESRB could be forced to label this M or AO.

Hmm, last time I looked my penis didn't have legs.

If I were arguing the rating before the ESRB you can bet I'd be there with photos of anteaters, clams, barnacles...

Re: Spore + Porn = Sporn

IIRC, the big deal about the Oblivion mod was that the mod just removed clothing from all the females. And underneath the clothing, the games devs made them anatomically correct instead of Barbie dolls.

Re: Spore + Porn = Sporn

I do not believe that is true. The models originally had no genitalia.
 
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