Report: Thai Teen Robs, Kills Cabbie in Effort to Recreate Grand Theft Auto IV

August 4, 2008 -

A story receiving widespread media play this morning details the arrest of a 19-year-old Thai man who allegedly robbed and murdered a Bangkok cab driver. According to police sources, Polwat Chino told investigators he was re-enacting a scene from Grand Theft Auto IV.

Reuters reports that GTA IV has been removed from retail shelves and arcades (we're assuming that in Thailand players can play console games for a fee). From the article:

Police in Bangkok said that the youth "had wanted to find out if it was as easy in real life to rob a taxi as it was in the game."

 

...Chino, described by his parents as polite and diligent... had paid to play the game at a local shop in Bangkok, and said he had needed more cash to continue playing it and that the taxi driver looked like an easy target.

GP: So, was he re-enacting a scene from the game or just looking for someone to rob? Reuters continues:

A senior official at Thailand's Culture Ministry, which has been pursuing tougher regulation of violent games such as Grand Theft Auto, said the murder was a wake-up call for authorities, and urged parents to take note of what their children were playing.

 

"This time-bomb has already exploded and the situation could get worse," the official was quoted as saying. "Today it is a cab driver but tomorrow it could be a video game shop owner." Thai authorities have been pushing for a rating system on video games, as well as restrictions on how long youths can spend playing games in video arcades.

GP: Given the Thai government's history of censorship, this case will likely not receive the type of media scrutiny and follow-up that it deserves. Not to rush to judgment, but the situation as described in the news report (including the very convenient photo at left of the suspect re-enacting his crime for police) couldn't be more perfect for a government seeking a justification for a video game crackdown.

We also note that the suspect, who reportedly stabbed the victim 10 times, is wearing what appears to be a very clean white shirt (i.e., no blood). Stab someone ten times from arm's length and closer and you're going to get blood on your clothing. And yes, he could have changed clothes, but we don't really know.


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Re: Report: Thai Teen Robs, Kills Cabbie in Effort to Recreate

Gallagher can araç kiralama say all he wants, but I strongly rent a car believe it's due to his crappy leadership and E3 being a joke. ESA's Board of Directors need to find a way to get out rent a car of this horrid contract with this Bush cronie before there's no one left on the Board.

Btw, I think Atari and Midway will drop out too, but mostly travesti because  these guys have done nothing ttnet vitamin or little and need to start saving costs.

 

Re: Report: Thai Teen Robs, Kills Cabbie in Effort to Recreate

The Asshole doesn't get any apologises from me... I hope he dies in a ditch the crippled cretin.

Re: Report: Thai Teen Robs, Kills Cabbie in Effort to Recreate

An interesting article.

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Yay for douchebagary JT has posted his latest 'complaint' on JAABlog

Re: Report: Thai Teen Robs, Kills Cabbie in Effort to Recreate

What, he's suing because nobody apologized?  He's lucky nobody took that email address before EZK deleted it and signed him up for every spam and porn bot this side of the mississippi.

I must admit, he's right about one thing.  I don't trust Strauss Zelnick. Dennis is different.  I don't agree with him on at least a few subjects, but he's shown a remarkable amount of patience just dealing with JT all these years.  Imagine,  must be like a kidney stone that won't pass.  That, I respect.

Every so often I actually get tempted to sit down, make an effort to try to clear my mind, and read JT's book.  Must be like reading Nietsche or Machiavelli.  You know, somewhere in there he's gonna say something that's gonna tick you off, but you try to read it anyway if only to broaden your mind.

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Re: Report: Thai Teen Robs, Kills Cabbie in Effort to Recreate

Thank you for the info Thai gamer, which clearly shows that the Thai government has no clue about games and gamers at all.

Out of interest what ratings system does Thailand use and who can buy mature games? Cheers in advance.

I would also agree that GTA is being used here as a scapegoat for political ends-a 19 year old clearly should know the difference between right and wrong and so if he thinks stabbing a taxi driver is right he is fully accountable for his own stupid actions.

 

Blaming a game when he committed the crime is pathetically laughable-ratehr like JT asking for an 'apology' (can't wait for his disbarrment :D )

 

Andy

Re: Report: Thai Teen Robs, Kills Cabbie in Effort to Recreate

Thailand have practically no rating systems on video games or movies at all so a 9 years old can buy any 18+ games or movies also if there are rating it will have no effect on PS3 games because are all imported by either the shop themselve or via a third party import and most ps2 and XB360 games are pirated anyway so the rating will pointless

Re: Report: Thai Teen Robs, Kills Cabbie in Effort to Recreate

thanks for all the info Thai gamer really appreciated!

cant believe they said GTA is banned in australia and UK. it REALLY isnt.

that list of top 10 most 'dangerous' games is laughable. i mean.. 50 cent.. wtf

Re: Report: Thai Teen Robs, Kills Cabbie in Effort to Recreate

 First of all the government and the police don't know anything about games so they just pick on games to win the vote from the anti games people because they will dissolve the parliament soon.  Second of all thy say that GTA is "an online game" and getting it mixed up with other MMO and GTA 4 is already out on PC already, Lastly even if all the GTA are ban you can still be able to get the pirated version and there are no publisher in Thailand who publish GTA on PS3 so all GTA 4 here are imported 

 

Re: Report: Thai Teen Robs, Kills Cabbie in Effort to Recreate

 Top 10 most dangerous games according to the Government.

1.GTA  2. Manhunt  3. Scarface  4. 50 Cent : Bulletproof  5. 300 : The Video Game  6. The Godfather

7.Killer 7  8. Resident Evil 4 9. God of War  10. Hitman : Blood Money  

 

"The Family Network demands the Culture Ministry revokes the licence of GTA and other games with inappropriate violent and sexual content" Mr Wanchai said in the statement.

 

He said that GTA was banned in several countries, including Australia and England.

Tuesday August 05, 2008  BANGKOK POST AND REUTERS

since when the game are ban in UK and Australia?

Re: Report: Thai Teen Robs, Kills Cabbie in Effort to Recreate

GTA 2, 3, VC, SA, LCS, and 4 aren't on the list?

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Re: Report: Thai Teen Robs, Kills Cabbie in Effort to Recreate

haha, God of War, I'm going to have sex with females and slice up people with swords on a chain that has elemental powers of fire that follow the path of the weapon....   and monkeys fly out of my butt.

Re: Report: Thai Teen Robs, Kills Cabbie in Effort to Recreate

The only danger 50 Cent Bulletproof and the 300 game my contain would be to educate the Thai citizens that celebrity and movie tie in games are TERRIBLE!

Re: Report: Thai Teen Robs, Kills Cabbie in Effort to Recreate

I'm currently on a vacation here in Thailand. I heard this as a newsflash on the radio. This is what the newscaster said about the case:

Apparently he wanted to see if it was as easy to get money and steal a car in real life as it was to in GTA. He waved down 2 taxis. There were too many potential witnesses in the area when the first taxi came, so he moved to a more secluded spot. This time when the taxi came he stabbed the cabbie and killed the man. After he pocketed the 1000 baht the found on the dead cabbie he put the body into the back seat. He then attempted to drive away in the taxi, but he didn't know how to drive and was eventually caught by the police. By the way, he was reported to have been covered in blood when he was caught.

"but he didn't know how to

"but he didn't know how to drive"

BUt how? He was playing Grand Theft Auto, most of the game revolves around driving and playing these games is supposed to enhance your skills, just like teaching you to expertly use a gun! Just ask Jack Thompson!

The taxi must have broken down, that's it. I mean, there's no way someone who has played a driving videogame would not know how to drive! /sarcasm

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Dang, I wish he was a couple years younger so he wouldnt be an adult.  I want to see parents put in jail for their kid's actions.  (cough NY report recently) 

I say if the kid is 17 or younger, parents should have to go to jail with the kid for a year if the sentence is more than 5 years, if both parents go, then 6 months each if they didn't take actions to control their kid. (therapy, medication, military school, and so on)  Scare parents into parenting their kids, or not having them in the first place.  Then if it is under 5 years, then 1/5 of the sentence their kid has. (Have them allowed to go in on weekend, and work during the week days, then if they don't keep to a schedule agreed upon with a judge/jailers then they can get the amount of their time not there added. [responsibility tough the tough way])

Okay, maybe that is extremely overboard, but it would definitely be something good to do to some of these kids and their lazy parents.

Re: Report: Thai Teen Robs, Kills Cabbie in Effort to Recreate

What this person forgot is that when you kill someone, you automaticly get a one star rating and the police go after you.

Re: Report: Thai Teen Robs, Kills Cabbie in Effort to Recreate

And then on the positive side of games...

http://arstechnica.com/journals/thumbs.ars/2008/08/04/study-reveals-vide...

 

 

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Re: Report: Thai Teen Robs, Kills Cabbie in Effort to Recreate

The last thing one more crime should do is make the laws more oppressive. This crime is nothing new or truly disturbing, as stated. What I would guess is ban the game for everyone since 19-year olds would be unaffected by ratings rules.

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What an ass!  Glad he's off the street.

Re: Report: Thai Teen Robs, Kills Cabbie in Effort to Recreate

Nothing new.

Re: Report: Thai Teen Robs, Kills Cabbie in Effort to Recreate

I can already hear it now:

"Yes I'd like two round-trip tickets to Thailand? My name? Jack Thompson."

Then again, I dunno how he'd afford it on 'washed-up lawyer' salary.

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Re: Report: Thai Teen Robs, Kills Cabbie in Effort to Recreate

Why would he need two?  His wife isn't interested in tagging along on his little crusades.

Re: Report: Thai Teen Robs, Kills Cabbie in Effort to Recreate

One seat for Jack and one for his ego perhaps?

Re: Report: Thai Teen Robs, Kills Cabbie in Effort to Recreate

Not sure why I said two, lol... but yeah his ego would need its own seat (or two) :P

 

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Re: Report: Thai Teen Robs, Kills Cabbie in Effort to Recreate

He needs one for his son so that they can perform one of their famous stings while they are there.

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Re: Report: Thai Teen Robs, Kills Cabbie in Effort to Recreate

Because clearly, the most dangerous thing to teenage boys in Thailand is video games, and not.. oh, say... sex tourism.

Jack strikes me as the kind of guy who would lube his son's little cornhole and send him to a "massage parlor" for a few days.

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Ratings wouldn't have done anything in this case. The guy has been of legal age since GTAIV has been released. Pretty much what you have is a thug who got caught. You are going to have thugs in a world with or without video games.

Also, I don't think this guy is much of a gamer. What he did was stupid ever for someone who has no value in human life. It makes poor sense in a risk/reward scenario. A murder is a big risk and the amount of money he is carrying is very little reward. Gamers usually have a better sense of risk/reward, in my opinion. He could be just a really stupid gamer.

If everything in this story can be taken at face value then I think he was just another stupid thug with the "my parents didn't love me enough" defense. He would have killed the cabby even if the game never existed.

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Point of correction I believe Dennis.  The current Thai government is not a military government.  There were elections held late last year, and the current PM was elected in rather sketchy circumstances (allegations of vote buying).  The vote buying was apparently not instigated by the former military rulers.  Ironically, the current PM, who is not currently very popular with the people, is an old friend of former PM Thaksin Shinawatra who was ousted by the military junta in a bloodless coup in 2006.  He has been accused of restarting the bloody "vigilante" type justice that Thaksin was accused of during his early years, with thousands of citizens "disappeared" under allegations of illegal drug sales, so the reported "facts" surrounding this arrest do seem a bit dubious.  Maybe we're seeing some PR work to show him as a friend of the people?  It's the kind of crap that Thaksin pulled to keep himself in office.

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong here, but the "other half" of my family is Thai so I try to keep current on things there. 

Re: Report: Thai Teen Robs, Kills Cabbie in Effort to Recreate

you're right, and I've made the correction regarding the military govt. Thanks for that heads-up!

Re: Report: Thai Teen Robs, Kills Cabbie in Effort to Recreate

Red text, complex maybe? Only joking, it is nice to see you responding to some comments though :)

Re: Report: Thai Teen Robs, Kills Cabbie in Effort to Recreate

Maybe he set it to red by default? But it does make his posts stand out, anyway...

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Re: Report: Thai Teen Robs, Kills Cabbie in Effort to Recreate

This could easily be the Culture Ministry distorting the truth to suit their own goals. For a crime to happen like this, and to see the Thai government was all too ready, and so very quick, to remove GTA from all stores is just too convienient.

Tinfoil hat or not... it certainly wouldn't be the first time the Thai government has done that sort of thing, and I strongly doubt it will be the last (if it is.) But, as GP pointed out, we will likely never know one way or the other due to the stranglehold the government has on media outlets.

Re: Report: Thai Teen Robs, Kills Cabbie in Effort to Recreate

I sent this story along to Dennis this morning via email, citing the article from BBC Tech, but this coverage is a lot more detailed and well-researched. Good job, Dennis.

This story is pretty upsetting. I mean, you can't get much more of a cold cut case against a game than this, even though the whole thing is totally ridiculous. 

Interesting conspiracy theory comments at the end there, too.

Re: Report: Thai Teen Robs, Kills Cabbie in Effort to Recreate

I did the same thing, but I sent him the link from Reuters...which I found on Fudzilla's site this morning 

Sortableturnip's Law: As an online discussion of video game violence grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Jack Thompson approaches 1

Re: Report: Thai Teen Robs, Kills Cabbie in Effort to Recreate

yes, a few readers sent it along, and thank you all for that. Too many to specify in the body of the story, unfortunately.

Re: Report: Thai Teen Robs, Kills Cabbie in Effort to Recreate

Well ,the movement ot have games accepted as harmless entertainment was just driven bakc by about 6 months

Re: Report: Thai Teen Robs, Kills Cabbie in Effort to Recreate

Now now ... let's not paint ourselves as victims of some imaginary persecution here. You can still play video games, talk about them, buy them, sell them, etc.

I'd say that it pretty much is accepted now, bar a few Neo-Luddites. Relax, mate, you'll live longer :)

Re: Report: Thai Teen Robs, Kills Cabbie in Effort to Recreate

*rolls eyes*

Re: Report: Thai Teen Robs, Kills Cabbie in Effort to Recreate

I live in Thailand and I can tell you that kid want money to spend in the internet cafe and the last time I check GTA IV doesn't come out on PC yet. So as far as i concerned the government and the media just looking for something to pick on

 

Re: Report: Thai Teen Robs, Kills Cabbie in Effort to Recreate

couldn't they have consoles & TV's in what they are calling "arcades"? I've seen that in at least one Internet cafe near my home in PA.

Dunno... but the whole story raises a lot of questions...

Re: Report: Thai Teen Robs, Kills Cabbie in Effort to Recreate

 Yes, but in the news here the "so called" experts are refering  GTA as an "computer online game" and keep getting it mixing up with other MMO games that the internet cafe provided and they can't really enforce the rating because the retailers will sell to anyone with money and most cops do take bribe.  

Re: Report: Thai Teen Robs, Kills Cabbie in Effort to Recreate

Blah blah blah kids blah blah blah rating system. How much text did they think I would have to read before forgetting that the man was 19 year old? Aren't these people even pretending to be competent?

Re: Report: Thai Teen Robs, Kills Cabbie in Effort to Recreate

??? WHAT THE HELL???? This is complete bullshit! The fucker killed the guy for his fucking money! I wanted to see how easy it was to throw the blame on a fucking plastic disk.

 

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Reality/////////////////////////////////////Fantasy. Seems like a pretty thick line to me...

Re: Report: Thai Teen Robs, Kills Cabbie in Effort to Recreate

he 'wanted to find out if it was as easy in real life to rob a taxi as it was in the game'...

right.. so that makes it the games fault. So if i am aged 19 (an adult) and 'want to find out if it is as easy in real life to fly, as it is in a superman game' and throw somebody off a building, then thats the games fault?

riiigghhttt.... because at 19 i cant understand the difference...

And what i dont get is this... EVEN IF he GENUINELY did commit the crime FOR THAT REASON  (i actually believe the motivation was far more likely robbery for money etc) , it doesnt make him not responsible for his actions. he still went through the thought process, which at some point must have registered 'this is wrong' and did it anyway. The game didnt wipe his brain into thinking it was ok. he still KNEW it was wrong. i can WONDER what its like to do anything i want. Doesnt mean because ive imagined doing it, that somehow makes it ok..', and me not responsible for my actions.

If i tell you 'hey this totally isnt real but stick your hand in the fire and it wont hurt'

it doesnt alter the fact that

a) you know it will hurt or

b) if you stick your hand in the fire its YOUR fault for doing so, not mine. You cant blame me.

 

 

 

Re: Report: Thai Teen Robs, Kills Cabbie in Effort to Recreate

I don't remember any missions involving robbing taxis in GTA.  Stealing the taxis themselves, yes, but that doesn't seem to be what he was trying to do.

Re: Report: Thai Teen Robs, Kills Cabbie in Effort to Recreate

The bit about the clean white shirt is entering tinfoil hat territory. One would assume that if they caught him in the clothes he wore at the incident, they would allow him to get cleaned up and changed before doing any sort of reenactment.

Re: Report: Thai Teen Robs, Kills Cabbie in Effort to Recreate

Even if they didn't allow him to change, we don't see any of the front or left side of his shirt. Depending on how he stabbed the guy we're not going to see it on his back or right sleeve.

Re: Report: Thai Teen Robs, Kills Cabbie in Effort to Recreate

Honestly, it really looks like he's getting ready to dry hump him

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Re: Report: Thai Teen Robs, Kills Cabbie in Effort to Recreate

Tinfoil hat territory?

Wow...

My point is simply, can you trust any info from the Thai military dictatorship?

 

 
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