Thai Site Offers Local Perspective on GTA Cabbie Murder

August 5, 2008 -

Frustrated by sketchy and somewhat conflicting English language news accounts of Bangkok's GTA Cabbie murder, GP went looking for local Thai sources and found Asian Sweetheart. The site is mostly pictures of "gorgeous Thai ladies," but the cabbie murder apparently got the owner's attention away from posting glam shots:

The English language news stories left out much of the detail about the victim and the accused murderer. The Thai news had interviews of the families and other people involved.

The story is very sad for many reasons. On the victim's side, they are a poor family and the man was the only person making any income, and not much because driving a taxi does not pay very well. He became the chosen victim because he was older and smaller than the first taxi driver the killer approached.

GP: Based on the fact that the victim was selected by the killer in the belief that he would be an easy mark, this looks like just another premeditated robbery, not some random violent act. Taxi cab robberies have been going on as long as there have been taxi cabs (more on that later).

The killer's family is also poor but the teen had always been known as polite and very nice, even getting the dek dee (good child) award at school. The mother was a house maid and the father a security guard. The kid was alone a lot and the parents never really knew what he was doing all that time he was playing violent video games.

The 18 year old confessed to the killing, which means he won't face the death penalty as some western media incorrectly reported. He gave a detailed account of how he planned for the robbery and chose the victim, although he said the killing was not originally part of the plan but he did it when the victim fought back.
 

 


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Re: Thai Site Offers Local Perspective on GTA Cabbie Murder

I'm all for freedom of ttnet vitamin speech and allowing rent a car game makers to put whatever they want in games, but there's one thing about this app that has me scratching my head.  Correct me if I'm wrong, but from araç kiralama the previous article araba kiralama on this I gathered that players can use Google maps in-game to find the other (real-life?) dealers in their area.  If this is the case, has travesti anyone considered what's stopping someone from using this app to actually move drugs between hands for reals?

But majority araba kiralama of their outrage araç kiralama stems from what it could DO TO children, not the content itself.  Talk to one of these people and you'll find they don't think any books kiralık araba should be banned from children.  Mention American Psycho and they talk about kiralık araç the redeeming value of using imagination to construct a story.  Reading, no matter what the content, is largely viewed as a consequenceless activity for people of any age.  The reason why I mention American Psycho is because of the content itself.  Gaming never has and likely never will have any scenes where someone has sex with a severed head.  Not gonna happen.  Yet despite this, they'll fight tooth and nail to protect their children from two boys kissing in Bully but whatever they read is harmless... yeah.

The entire arguement is kiralık oto based upon a social normality inflicted by luddites who can't figure out the controls for Halo so it's frightening and terrifying and obviously the cause of youth violence on the rise even though, in reality, it's in decline (which is actually a HUGE suprise given minibüs kiralama the economies status).  In  a perfect world, we would have parents that actually parent.  The idea of sales restrictions on media on oto kiralama any form to accomidate parental unwillingness to get involved with their child's life is the real problem to me.  Here I am, 32 years old, and being held up at a self-scan rent a car needing to show ID before I can buy a $10 M rated game all because Soccer Momthra can't be bothered to look at the crap Billy Genericallystupidson does in his free time.  It's too hard for her, so I have to suffer?

Re: Thai Site Offers Local Perspective on GTA Cabbie Murder

I'm all for freedom of ttnet vitamin speech and allowing rent a car game makers to put whatever they want in games, but there's one thing about this app that has me scratching my head.  Correct me if I'm wrong, but from araç kiralama the previous article araba kiralama on this I gathered that players can use Google maps in-game to find the other (real-life?) dealers in their area.  If this is the case, has travesti anyone considered what's stopping someone from using this app to actually move drugs between hands for reals?

But majority araba kiralama of their outrage araç kiralama stems from what it could DO TO children, not the content itself.  Talk to one of these people and you'll find they don't think any books kiralık araba should be banned from children.  Mention American Psycho and they talk about kiralık araç the redeeming value of using imagination to construct a story.  Reading, no matter what the content, is largely viewed as a consequenceless activity for people of any age.  The reason why I mention American Psycho is because of the content itself.  Gaming never has and likely never will have any scenes where someone has sex with a severed head.  Not gonna happen.  Yet despite this, they'll fight tooth and nail to protect their children from two boys kissing in Bully but whatever they read is harmless... yeah.

The entire arguement is kiralık oto based upon a social normality inflicted by luddites who can't figure out the controls for Halo so it's frightening and terrifying and obviously the cause of youth violence on the rise even though, in reality, it's in decline (which is actually a HUGE suprise given minibüs kiralama the economies status).  In  a perfect world, we would have parents that actually parent.  The idea of sales restrictions on media on oto kiralama any form to accomidate parental unwillingness to get involved with their child's life is the real problem to me.  Here I am, 32 years old, and being held up at a self-scan rent a car needing to show ID before I can buy a $10 M rated game all because Soccer Momthra can't be bothered to look at the crap Billy Genericallystupidson does in his free time.  It's too hard for her, so I have to suffer?

Re: Thai Site Offers Local Perspective on GTA Cabbie Murder

I noticed a lot of visitors coming to my blog from the link in this story so I came to see what everybody is talking about.

A lot of commenters said that GTA was not mentioned. I guess I left it out of my post because I assumed people knew the basic story. The kid said in his confession that he planned the taxi robbery to copy the one in GTA. That's what got everybody upset about GTA.

Also, Thailand is not lax on porn as one commenter said. Porn is illegal here. It can be found at underground outlets but it is definitely illegal. It is even illegal for a Thai citizen to act in a porn movie in another country. If that person returns to Thailand and it is discovered they face arrest.

And the person who thinks looking at beautiful women is somehow like killing for fun... I don't have words for that either. Mainstream actresses and models appearing in magazines like FHM and Maxim (Thai editions) - you think that is porn or something dirty?

In case you didn't read the update, GTA is now illegal in Thailand and anyone caught selling it or making it available to kids at gaming shops faces a fine or arrest.

Re: Thai Site Offers Local Perspective on GTA Cabbie Murder

 Maybe the Govt pay him to do it and blame the GTA for what he has done 

Re: Thai Site Offers Local Perspective on GTA Cabbie Murder

I think it's probably more the case of the Government really wanting a reason to do it, some kid did it, and mentioned GTA, and they decided to close the door before anyone could say anything otherwise. It's a lot harder, after all, to undo a law, than to create one.

Re: Thai Site Offers Local Perspective on GTA Cabbie Murder

He was poor and his family left him alone very often because they were busy. Usually it's common for those kids to act out; hence a robbery. This has to do more so with family issues.

Re: Thai Site Offers Local Perspective on GTA Cabbie Murder

Once again, the planning and execution stage go entirely and completely against the 'cranial menu' stress-activated auto-reaction argument of people like Jack Thompson. This wasn't conditioning, he wasn't under pressure or duress, he didn't 'automatically revert to his videogame antics'.

The guy might have been doing a crime that was 'like something out of GTA', he might have been inspired by it, but he was commiting a crime, and he knew it, else why plan? The sheer level of involvement says quite clearly that this was not a spontaneous reaction bought about by conditioning, it was a lucidly made decision to do something that the criminal was fully aware was illegal. The fact the person got their inspiration from a Video game is utterly irrelavant, he was looking for inspiration and would have found it anywhere. Criminals who are determined to commit their crime always have a 'reason' why they are different to other criminals.

On close examination, this doesn't do anything to support the arguments of people such as Jack Thompson, because it suggests the criminal was acting in precisely the opposite manner to what they have been suggesting. The inspiration on this occasion was a video game, but the criminal knew he was a criminal, knew he was breaking the law, and planned to do so. That's not conditioning, that's choice.

Re: Thai Site Offers Local Perspective on GTA Cabbie Murder

You beat me to it.  This was a premeditated act, that's absolutely undeniable, and completely nullifies any video game defense BS.

Re: Thai Site Offers Local Perspective on GTA Cabbie Murder

Let's ban alcohol. People kill because of it. 

Re: Thai Site Offers Local Perspective on GTA Cabbie Murder

Robbing for money? Absolutely preposterous. Everybody knows that GTA was behind this. The whole robbery angle is a cover-up.

Re: Thai Site Offers Local Perspective on GTA Cabbie Murder

"The people who produce and distribute this stuff...hard to put into words. What kind of garbage fills their minds?" says the owner of the site which features so many half-naked women.  What kind of hypocrysy is that?  Enough said.

Re: Thai Site Offers Local Perspective on GTA Cabbie Murder

Bear in mind we're talking about Thailand, a country known for being lax on things like sexuality and porn, and where a child prostitution market is alive and well.

Thailand is not the US or the UK; they don't have the same views on certain things that we do. It's only hypocrisy to us because we consider having a site full of half-naked women a cultural taboo.

Not condoning what the site is or what it does, just stating a fact.

Re: Thai Site Offers Local Perspective on GTA Cabbie Murder

Exceptions occur with people and their behaviors every day. Too bad it doesn't cause them to shut down.

Re: Thai Site Offers Local Perspective on GTA Cabbie Murder

Oh, and to Billy Bangkok (the one person who posted on the page), good on ya.

 

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Re: Thai Site Offers Local Perspective on GTA Cabbie Murder

>GP went looking for local Thai sources and found Asian Sweetheart.

Yeah, Dennis, we believe you. You "found" this site while "looking for information about the cabbie killing", okay... ;P

/b

Re: Thai Site Offers Local Perspective on GTA Cabbie Murder

 Oh man, that was too funny! Dennis, like many, was just lokking for his asian porn fix when he came across a great news story. It's okay man, lots of people like asian porn. There is nothing to be ashamed of.

Okay...

So yeah, the guy who killed the taxi driver was looking for money. The end.

 

-Entertainment isn't the reason the world sucks. It's the reason we know the world sucks. For information on games and psychology, look up: Jonathan Freedman(2002)Block & Crain(2007)Grand Theft Childhood, by Harvard researchers Larry Kutner&Cheryl Olson

Reality/////////////////////////////////////Fantasy. Seems like a pretty thick line to me...

Re: Thai Site Offers Local Perspective on GTA Cabbie Murder

Ummm...so where's the part where he trained for hours on end playing GTA4?  Where was the part where he wanted to renact a GTA-style murder?

I think that, with the ban, the Thai government saw an oppertunity and took it.  More people exploiting a tragedy to further their own goals.  Ugh.

Re: Thai Site Offers Local Perspective on GTA Cabbie Murder

"The kid was alone a lot and the parents never really knew what he was doing all that time he was playing violent video games. "

I believe that's the part that hinted at this.

Re: Thai Site Offers Local Perspective on GTA Cabbie Murder

True, but as you stated at best that's just hinting at the game.  They never actually say GTA.  It could have been Counter-Strike or fighting games. 

Re: Thai Site Offers Local Perspective on GTA Cabbie Murder

Sooo, GTA4 has, what to do with this again?

Re: Thai Site Offers Local Perspective on GTA Cabbie Murder

Well according to a "reliable" and "trustworthy" source, it beams subliminal messages into your brain, hence what caused him to do this.

Of course this particular source is being forced into early retirement, so take that into consideration.

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Re: Thai Site Offers Local Perspective on GTA Cabbie Murder

I agree, there is no mention of the game, but I think it's a necessary follow-up to disprove the connection between GTA and the murder.

Re: Thai Site Offers Local Perspective on GTA Cabbie Murder

I don't see anything about GTA IV in this.

Re: Thai Site Offers Local Perspective on GTA Cabbie Murder

Interesting. Sounds like the root cause here is poverty. It's tempting to blame the parents, but they can't help it if it takes so much to make ends meet, and furthermore this guy was an adult (that reminds me, what'd the age of legal majority in Thailand?) and is responsible for his own actions.

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