Teenage Arson Suspects Say GTA Taught Them How to Make Molotov Cocktails

August 7, 2008 -

In the wake of Saturday's highly publicized cabbie murder in Bangkok, there's more bad news for Grand Theft Auto.

Police in Fulton County, Georgia say that three teens arrested for a series of car arsons claim that they used GTA-inspired Molotov cocktails to set the vehicles ablaze.

WSBTV-2 reports:

Fulton County officials said they have arrested three teens and charged them with 57 felony counts in connection with a recent series of car bombings with Molotov cocktails in the city of Milton, north of Atlanta.

 

Officials said the teens -- ages 15 and 16 -- told authorities they learned "how to do it" from playing the video game "Grand Theft Auto."

 


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Re: Teenage Arson Suspects Say GTA Taught Them How to Make

Dude thats bullshit, those fucksticks are only saying that so they can try to get a lighter sentecne and be less accountable for their actions. I've been making molotov cocktails for a while now and I wouldn't use that shit for anything other than entertainment purposes, or celebrations and I only chuck the shit at walls(like concrete walls) or other shit. Fucking dipshits, if I were there and I saw them I would have kicked their hick asses to Russia where teh Molotov was created.  Fuck Shits

Re: Teenage Arson Suspects Say GTA Taught Them How to Make

Key word:

Taught.

But then again, this is just as bad as that idiot who only knew what a grenade was if not for the Green Day album.

 

Video games are not to blame.

Re: Teenage Arson Suspects Say GTA Taught Them How to Make

I disagree with all the comments about parents being to blame. That is the same thing as blaming videogames, just from another perspective. (think about it)

In an age where so much economic pressure is placed on parents, to work their butts off in order to keep up with the needs of a modern family. When I was growing up my mother worked 7am-5pm, and then spent the rest of her time carting my sister around for her cheerleading/dance stuff. While, my father worked the same hours and spent his evenings drunk infront of the tv or with his neighborhood buddies.

I never really saw a whole lot of my parents as a result, and all I really had were videogames. Doom, Nintendo, etc. I knew right from wrong though and I knew that I was always responsible for anything that I did.

Personally, if I had a child, and he/she were to do something like this; I would disown them. Little bastards aren't going to ruin (in a few nights) what took me my whole life to acquire/accomplish. These kids should be held responsible for their own actions.

Re: Teenage Arson Suspects Say GTA Taught Them How to Make

Most of the stints about blaming Video Games come from the older crowd that say laudable and untrue statements like "Video Games are, and always will be, for KIDS!" and "All Video Games are Marketed to Kids regardless of their actual rating!"

It's truly only a matter of time before our generation is running our country. Until then, it really is up to the parents to not so much "Control their Children" rather "Teach their children the difference between Fantasy and Reality."

If they can't find time to do that, or at least observe their children's habits from time to time. It's not being a very good parent.

Re: Teenage Arson Suspects Say GTA Taught Them How to Make

As I am sure several people already stated that nowhere in grand theft auto does it teach you how to make a molotov cocktail in the game.  We live in an age where the internet is widely used by almost everyone and I am more than sure that these kids simply looked up how to make them online.  Instead of telling the truth and saying they were doing this all because of thier stupid kid behavior they blamed a game where you have access to the cocktail as a weapon and there is no explanation on how it is created.

Re: Teenage Arson Suspects Say GTA Taught Them How to Make

This is just stupid. I'm pretty sure some guerillas who couldn't read a letter of the English alphabet can make a molotov cocktail. All they'd ask is gas, a rag, and a f***ing soda bottle. People from the 20's can make a decent molotov cocktail, and they never played GTA or have a TV for that matter.

I hate sensationalist press.

Re: Teenage Arson Suspects Say GTA Taught Them How to Make

Considering that Alone In The Dark allows you to create molotov cocktails in detail, why is GTA under the firing line?

Re: Teenage Arson Suspects Say GTA Taught Them How to Make

Dear Jack, I am sorry you are a sick deranged and highly offensive individual.

I really am.

But I'm not sorry you are going to get disbarred.

I rather you were a decent human being, but things being as they are I'll take your impending punishment as a silver medal.

 

Best regards,

 

Andy x

Re: Teenage Arson Suspects Say GTA Taught Them How to Make

How does one know that JT isn't pulling some strings here.

He lost his license to practice law, He would have everything to gain by having a few cases of random teens say "Grand Theft Auto made me do it!"

Simply so JT could say "I WAS RIGHT!"

Re: Teenage Arson Suspects Say GTA Taught Them How to Make

Even so, whether he would be right or not was not the case. His harassing and belittling behaviour, not to mention his hunger for lying uncontrollably...would be the reasons he is getting stripped down of his status. Video games, as much as he tried to change the topic of the trial to, were not the subject of his disbarrment proceedings.

 

JT: I was right! LOOK!

Bar: Uh huh...yeah you are still a nut case

JT: See though God has answered Jack Thompson's prayers! Jack Thompson is back in action. Jack Thompson demands that you apologize to him and give him back his license

Bar: Let me think about that. Um no.

JT: ................please? I'll be your friend

Bar: You tried that before. I have lots of friends, and we don't really like you

JT: I'll sue you

Bar: No, you won't.

JT: Meanies!!!! (sound sobbing uncontrollably as Jack runs into his room and slams the door)

Re: Teenage Arson Suspects Say GTA Taught Them How to Make

Funny how JT wants to get violent video games banned because they supposedly make us turn into bad people, and yet JT himself is essentially saying that another person's death is good? 

 

Jack Thompson, Hypocrite and you're not!

Re: Teenage Arson Suspects Say GTA Taught Them How to Make

Are these people serious? I learned how to make Molotov cocktails just through the multitude of action movies I've watched. No one even needs to really explain it to you verbally, all any reasonably intelligent person needs is to see one, and you can easily tell how to make one. This is easily the most retarded "videogames made me do it" case I've heard in quite a while.

Re: Teenage Arson Suspects Say GTA Taught Them How to Make

I learnt how to make Molotov Cocktails from books about WW2 as well as talking to my grandfather, who is a WW2 vet. Let's ban all sources of information on the world wars, too!



Chris 'coldacid' Charabaruk <coldacid.net>
IGDA Indie SIG Coordinator, Programmer, Designer

 
Chris 'coldacid' Charabaruk <coldacid.net>
IGDA Indie SIG Coordinator, Programmer, Designer

Re: Teenage Arson Suspects Say GTA Taught Them How to Make

Ban all WWII vets IRL lol

Re: Teenage Arson Suspects Say GTA Taught Them How to Make

Now I'm no fan of GTA but I'm pretty sure you don't make the molotov cocktails in the game.

Re: Teenage Arson Suspects Say GTA Taught Them How to Make

I want to send the following four words to JT about the existence of these studies he speaks of.

"Prove it or bullshit."

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I AM CONDEMNED TO HAUNT THE DREAMS OF JACK THOMPSON UNTIL HIS CRUSADE AGAINST VIDEO GAMES ENDS.



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I AM DOOMED TO HAUNT JACK THOMPSON'S DREAMS UNTIL HIS CRUSADE AGAINST VIDEO GAMES ENDS.

Re: Teenage Arson Suspects Say GTA Taught Them How to Make

Im surprised they didnt blame saving private ryan. That tells you how to make sticky bombs!

Re: Teenage Arson Suspects Say GTA Taught Them How to Make

let me list 2 main reasons why this is bull...

1. gta dosnt show you how to make molotovs you dont even make them in game!

2. gta is the ONLY way to find out how i mean you DEFINATLTY can't i dont know.... GOOGLE IT the first result tells you so much more than playing ALL THE GTA GAMES COMBINED...

serously the only reason people get away with this shit is because none of the mainstream media ever take the time to PLAY THE GAME or even REASERCH IT they just say its true beacause a video game EXPERT like jack says so...

Re: Teenage Arson Suspects Say GTA Taught Them How to Make

Funny, I always thought making one is common knowledge.

Re: Teenage Arson Suspects Say GTA Taught Them How to Make

Man, it sure took them a while. I learend to make a Moltov from Night of the Living Dead. Perhaps we should think about banning that, too.

Re: Teenage Arson Suspects Say GTA Taught Them How to Make

Yea well if there is a "god made me do it" defence there might as well be a "gta made me do it defence". But I seriusly do think that people who try either one of those defences should have their tounges cut out of their mouths. It worked well during the dark ages.

Re: Teenage Arson Suspects Say GTA Taught Them How to Make

Where is a "god made me do it" defense any more viable? Or while we're at it, even the "I'm only doing what I was ordered to do", in any form (including those already outlined).... they are derivatives of the Nurenburg Defense, and fail utterly.

"I'm not responcabel fer my comuter's spleling errnors." -- Xlorep DarkHelm

"I'm stel not responcabel fer my comuter's spleling errnors." -- Xlorep DarkHelm

Re: Teenage Arson Suspects Say GTA Taught Them How to Make

Jesus Christ on a bike.

Re: Teenage Arson Suspects Say GTA Taught Them How to Make

Really? WHERE???

*looks around*

Aww, I missed him!

Re: Teenage Arson Suspects Say GTA Taught Them How to Make

Don't feel too bad, he SO didn't look good in biking shorts.

 

Hunting the shadows of the troubled dreams.

Hunting the shadows of the troubled dreams.

Re: Teenage Arson Suspects Say GTA Taught Them How to Make

How about Jeebus' face on a bread?

Re: Teenage Arson Suspects Say GTA Taught Them How to Make

I wasn't going to say anything but I just had to share this little quote from the tv news station website that reported this whole mess:

"Molotov cocktails, flammable liquid in a bottle with a burning rag as a wick, were used to set the fires, according to Milton police."

That's as good as the Anarchist Cookbook will tell you, and way more than GTA will. Thanks channel 2! Next time I get in trouble I'll blame you!

Re: Teenage Arson Suspects Say GTA Taught Them How to Make

"The games made me do it" is the new "f*** the establishment".

It's sad that we can't find more rational motives for our devious acts. Previous generations of teenagers were more zealous about politics and freedom, and staged more protests. And when they blow up into riots it's all about fighting the establishment.

Our generation really has no motive to be in an uproar over the government, aside from maybe the Iraq War. Or we simply don't care. Maybe it's another reason why elders hate us. We do rebellious things for lamer reasons, like showing up your peers or claiming that you've been taught by the media.

And to make up for these lame reasons, some people just say they need the adrenaline. It can result in doing things that your parents didn't think of doing, like cutting your arms or inserting a bunch of piercings and stuff you find at a hardware store.

Some people need to let it all out but we gotta stop finding stupid excuses for it. It's like a solution looking for a problem.

Re: Teenage Arson Suspects Say GTA Taught Them How to Make

You don't even MAKE molotov cocktails in GTA, you just find them conveniently lying around in back alleys. I'm an adult and have played four GTA games and I'd still be at a loss of how to make one, and would probably set myself on fire trying.

Or maybe it really is as easy as sticking a rag in a bottle of dubious liquid and shooting it with a gun like Alone in the Dark taught me!

Re: Teenage Arson Suspects Say GTA Taught Them How to Make

Unless the dubious liquid in question is nitroglycerine, it's more likely to just spray everywhere and evaporate. And if it is nitroglycerine, merely knocking over the bottle with something is generally enough to cause a big explosion.

A bullet is not very likely to cause alcohol to combust, except for some particularly potent varieties of moonshine.


Chris 'coldacid' Charabaruk <coldacid.net>
IGDA Indie SIG Coordinator, Programmer, Designer

 
Chris 'coldacid' Charabaruk <coldacid.net>
IGDA Indie SIG Coordinator, Programmer, Designer

Re: Teenage Arson Suspects Say GTA Taught Them How to Make

to be fair i learned how to make molotov cocktails from watching world at war, thank you sir lawrance olivier. (i cant seem to recall any gta telling me how to make one)

Re: Teenage Arson Suspects Say GTA Taught Them How to Make

Now seriously, how the FUCK did GTA teach them how to make molotov cocktails?

"I'm not responcabel fer my comuter's spleling errnors." -- Xlorep DarkHelm

"I'm stel not responcabel fer my comuter's spleling errnors." -- Xlorep DarkHelm

Re: Teenage Arson Suspects Say GTA Taught Them How to Make

most ppl who say they learned it from a video game r jsut doing it so they can plea insanity and have a lighter sentence. If u ask me, authorities should actually play the game before they jump to conclusions and blame it.

Re: Teenage Arson Suspects Say GTA Taught Them How to Make

This, I knew already. However, it still is completely ludicrist.

"I'm not responcabel fer my comuter's spleling errnors." -- Xlorep DarkHelm

"I'm stel not responcabel fer my comuter's spleling errnors." -- Xlorep DarkHelm

Re: Teenage Arson Suspects Say GTA Taught Them How to Make

If i was a cop, i'd be extremely happy about this, GTA would have also taught these kids how the law is enforced too.

Jack Thompson's Sick Posts

I'd leave Jack's disgusting posts where they are Dennis, if they are genuine Thompson, people might learn something when they see him leaping about celebrating the death of another human being, like the fact that the person who takes joy in the real death of humans isn't gamers, it's Jack Thompson.

Re: Jack Thompson's Sick Posts

I will have to disagree there. No doubt in my mind that is the real Thompson, 100%. However that kind sick posting has no relevant discussion or addition to this story/topic what so ever. If he bombs Dennis with calls and emails, that is horrible and I feel for him...but Jack has been warned many times over about not posting his little filings and letters on here.

Though Thompson has been a virulent opponent of the gaming community for nearly a decade...this time, this is a non game issue and just is rotten to the core. It makes me sick just remembering the letter (and sorry for the swearing and angry tone in the last reply to one of his letters [sorry to Dennis not to you Jack, you don't deserve an apology any time soon] it was a little uncalled for) His cheering over the death of one of his bar opponents and trying to claim a settlement with his family, insurance, and his estate is scummier than normal from the Space Cowboy, and I don't think it has a place here.

Just stating my opinion.

 

Re: Jack Thompson's Sick Posts

I have to agree with this anon here. It shows just how much of a hypocrite John Bruce truly is. (That is, unless, the posts in question were from someone posing as Thompson, but the posts looks legitimate enough to be from the genuine article)

Plus the fact that the responses are still there, now tied to other posts. They should probably be deleted as well, just to quell the confusion, if anything.

Re: Jack Thompson's Sick Posts

Taking his posts down is only going to add fuel to the fire.  You know he's going to email/fax bomb you for violating his 1st amendment right to free speech.

Sortableturnip's Law: As an online discussion of video game violence grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Jack Thompson approaches 1

Re: Teenage Arson Suspects Say GTA Taught Them How to Make

yeah right, because they teach you how to make molotov cocktails in gta?

 

sweet mother of...

Re: Teenage Arson Suspects Say GTA Taught Them How to Make

I learned how to make a motlolov cocktail from TV when I was young. We are talking about a product that has basically three parts, if you have SEEN one at all, you can make them.

Hey, anyone remember the Goonies video game ("Hey, what you do?")? A childrens game based on a childrens movie. The best weapons in this game was a moltov cocktail.

Re: Teenage Arson Suspects Say GTA Taught Them How to Make

Eh I knew how to make one before I played GTA? 

Re: Teenage Arson Suspects Say GTA Taught Them How to Make

IT'S A GOD DAMNED RAG IN A BOTTLE WITH A FLAMABLE LIQUID.

 

jesus i think the whole thing is pretty self explanitory.

Re: Teenage Arson Suspects Say GTA Taught Them How to Make

Muhahaa!

 

In Finland, we are tought how to build Molotow's Coctails (Molotovin koktailit) while in school. Just a part of every history lesson. ;)

And no. GTA does NOT show you how to do it.

Re: Teenage Arson Suspects Say GTA Taught Them How to Make

Y'know, there was this movie called 'Zabrieskie Point' that was utterly atrocious, but included more info on how to make a molotov cocktail than GTA ever did (they actually debate the best manner for some time, IIRC).

I wonder.  If I claimed that leftist revolutionary cinema taught me how to make a molotov cocktail that I then threw into traffic, would the news be half as interested?  'Cause if you ask me, it's at least more likely....

Re: Teenage Arson Suspects Say GTA Taught Them How to Make

in contry where i live (Finland). our school books have recipe how to make molotov coctail.

Re: Teenage Arson Suspects Say GTA Taught Them How to Make

Thompson -

Chaykin died in unfortunate circumstances, trying to do something heroic, for selfless reasons. You, on the other hand, have never tried to do something you consider heroic (none of it has been, by the by) unless you think it might get you some air time. And for you to even consider his death a good thing confirms more than anything that you are the lowest form of bully.

And as for knowing how to make Molotovs, seeing them in any form of media - or used - tells you all you need to know to make a basic one. This is the typical "I don't want to take responsability for the fact that I'm a complete fuck up" defence. The very one that, as has been mentioned, Jackie-boy has led people to believe is a viable defence.

In a couple of days, this will be entirely debunked, as it always is. Sure, you got your scared morons who believe that society who's coming down around our ears who'll believe it, and you got your fear mongering politicians and "news media" who will go on about it as they believe it makes them look concerned for the world as opposed to ill informed hacks, but most ordinary people out there? They don't buy this any more than they buy that Uncle Billy-Bob was abducted by whiskey scented aliens.

You have to give the folks out there more credit - not everyone thinks like Johhny Bruce. Most people have more sense than you'd think, they just don't make a lot of noise about it.

Re: Teenage Arson Suspects Say GTA Taught Them How to Make

I learned how they are made in my Holocaust Studies class in High School, better ban that too.

Re: Teenage Arson Suspects Say GTA Taught Them How to Make

Next time the mrs comes home and catches me doing a prositutue in the driveway again.... I'll make sure to tell her I was playing Grand Theft Auto that day.

Maybe that would get me off the hook.

Re: Teenage Arson Suspects Say GTA Taught Them How to Make

When one of my friends was 12 he got in trouble for making a molotov with some friends in a back alley and the cops came and everything.
When my friend was 12 GTA1 was not even out.  It was not a game, it was his own stupidity and peer pressure.

When the kids today and take responsibility for their own actions and stop being jackasses, then all this crap can stuff.

 
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