Hef, Mini-Me at Madden VIP Launch Party

August 9, 2008 -

The Sporting News has coverage of a Madden VIP premiere party from Thursday night, complete with a cast of third-tier celebs like Verne (Mini-Me) Troyer, Tom Arnold and, oddly, Hugh Hefner (with bored-looking female companions in tow).

Madden 09 launches on Tuesday, of course. After the GTA IV launch, about which GamePolitics probably ran 25 stories, the Madden debut will be the second biggest game release of the year. Madden, fairly free of controversy, gets just this one.

GP: Personally, I'm way more interested in getting my mitts on Spore and Fallout 3, but the annual Madden launch is always an event, especially given that this year is the 20th anniversary of the series.

Via: Deadspin


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Re: Hef, Mini-Me at Madden VIP Launch Party

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I'd get the Wii version of this year's Madden, just for the ridiculous cover picture.

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Re: Hef, Mini-Me at Madden VIP Launch Party

Not just Madden either. We've got the latest not-really-new release of Fifa to 'look forward' to as well. You think Maddens bad? Fifa hasn't actually had anything new added since about 1995!

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Re: Hef, Mini-Me at Madden VIP Launch Party

I'd rather staple my own face shut than watch Mad TV, thanks.

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Play Madden? Or watch Mad TV? The choices of the damned.

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"Madden, fairly free of controversy, gets just this one."

Until someone unlocks 'Hot Steroids' and then we can expect a lot more coverage of the game.

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I'll admit that 'hologram' mode looks kinda cool, but I miss NFL Blitz, personally.

I agree about Fallout 3, though. That game looked fantastic, and will probably be more controversial too. :P

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Re: Hef, Mini-Me at Madden VIP Launch Party

so does this mean that mini-me is playable?
-The Bird

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Re: Hef, Mini-Me at Madden VIP Launch Party

Yes. He's the football.

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Win. Any concept of Midget Football is always funny. (no offense to Verne. For him, I would actually use the PC term "little person")

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岩「…I can see why Hasselbeck's worried about fake guns killing fake people. afterall, she's a fake journalist on a fake news channel」

Re: Hef, Mini-Me at Madden VIP Launch Party

Madden 09! It's not the exact same game as the previous 10 years because it now uses 1024 pixel texture mapping instead of 512!

Re: Hef, Mini-Me at Madden VIP Launch Party

true, but the general public ignores any new technical features and thinks the only thing changed is the roster.

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Re: Hef, Mini-Me at Madden VIP Launch Party

Screw Hugh Hefner.  He got my girlfriend hooked on his idiotic reality show, which I am now forced to sit through at least once a week.  Don't get me wrong, I love watching beautiful women, but not in that context.  Watcing three giggling blonde bimbos goofing off all day and spending someone else's money isn't my idea of entertainment.  I've eaten four-day-old Taco Bell that was more digestible.

But I'd rather watch that than be forced to play the latest iterations of Madden.  Unlike EA, at least the girls try different things once in a while.

"De minimus non curat lex"

Re: Hef, Mini-Me at Madden VIP Launch Party

For a moment there, I was kicking myself for passing up on the invite to the launch party.  Then I realized the article was about the LA party and not the Orlando party.

Re: Hef, Mini-Me at Madden VIP Launch Party

Oh look, another Madden.

Just like the last. What a surprise.

Re: Hef, Mini-Me at Madden VIP Launch Party

Madden: It's like playing the same game over and over. Only not. Look, please just buy it, okay?

Re: Hef, Mini-Me at Madden VIP Launch Party

i would love another 2k game, never cared for Madden, but with the Giants being the superbowl champs makes this a must buy for me.

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Madden is an embarrassment to the game industry, and I wish all game websites would quit covering the game until EA actually makes one that is truly something new... 

There isn't much to making this game, so work on more dynamic animation, a more in-depth career/franchise mode, you could even merge college and NFL into one game (it is working off of the same engine, why not), more player customization would be cool too...  I donno, they pay some idiot to come up with ideas for these games that should be coming up with great ideas or getting his ars fired.

All of EA's sports games are rinse wash and repeat...

Then when there was a Spore Demo that cost money, I was dumb founded by not only that EA was greed enough to do it, but that people were stupid enough to pay for it.  That is when I threw in the towel and said, "Screw you guys, I am not touching another one of your games unless it is used, and you wont get profit off of me buying it."

I strongly believe in running a company to please the consumers, yet EA runs their company to please their arswholic/idiotic/naive executive members and greedy stock holders.  Besides the fact that EA was using E3 as a PR repair event by paying big bucks to people like the guy from id, EA's average game rating on video game websites is 7.2/10, while places like Blizzard are around 8.8/10, EA has no valid excuse.  It means EA just wants profit, and thats all they care about, as most of us know.  Their average rating has went down every year since 2000 where they were at 7.5/10.  They have yet to have a game that scores a 10 across the board while GTA and other games for smaller companies have.

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You are aware the spore demo WAS free. The COMPLETE CREATURE CREATOR was not. I know you dont see the difference so let me point it out.

A game demo usually has a little bit of actual content. You cant do EVERYTHING with it that you can do in game. And as the early leak showed, you could make an awesome creature WITHOUT the funky parts.

The creature creator literally had EVERYTHING that could be made with the creature creator at your disposal. It was for people who wanted spore-goodness and were willing to shell out the meager sum they actually wanted us to pay for it. You cant spend 10-20 dollars? Then a computer+Internet probably SHOULDNT be in your budget.

I seriously hate people who complain because a company had THE NERVE to ask them to PAY for something. And its even worse when there is a FREE version that can be easily had. Its like complaining that bottle water is expensive when there is a tap right next to you.

EA is the company of the devil, but offering a better version to people who PAY isnt one of their sins, its the year 2008. If this is honestly the first time you have seen this get out from under a rock.

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That was meant to be at Deepthorn.... Dunno what happened.

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You want to know why there was very little improvements over the years?  It's because they started from a blank slate every year, nothing carried over from previous versions.  They would kick one version out the door, scrap the engine and start all over.  That was the case up to 2003/2004 at least.  After the Renderware purchase and the EA_spouse thing that may have finally changed, haven't talked to anyone from Tiburon in awhile about Madden so I don't know for sure.

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haha, yeah... i know people... they keep the same engine as long as possible, and you can clearly see that in most of EA Tib's games.  I saw an animation comparison from before 2004 where 2 version 2 years apart where put side by side, and it was the exact same animation.  It would be one thing if they added details to it (like the hand moving instead of being stiff), but the animation was just as crappy as it was 2 years before...  haha.  One animation compared was the ball being caught (and magically not touching the hands at all, just floating near them), and another was a reation to a play or something...  cant remember exactly...

In other games, like the NASCAR games, they kept the same models and textures for the tracks from the '05' version all the way through to the last version made for PS2 '08'.   It is clearly the same engine, same everything, just stupid minor things that arn't even needed added, taken out, and so on.  Do that with a roster update, and pop in photoshop to update a few things with paint jobs to the cars, then there is a new game... 

There are higher up people at EA Tib. that will lie and say they are doing a lot more to these games, but if you are close to an artist or programmer at the lower end of things, they will admit that they are using the same engine for as long as possible, same models, same textures, same lighting.  There may be minor adjustments, maybe an extra layer added to the textures like a specular map or shadowing, maybe they change the lighting color slightly or maybe a minor position change to make things appear differently, but not much more.  It is basically all the same.

Even with Madden 09 they have the classic trademark ball going through the player issues...  YouTube shows some funny glitches...  These games seems like they are barely tested, no attempt to enhance the game in development, and no care to actually please the gamers.

Re: EA=Enterprise Anathematic

I'm not quite sure where you were going with that little rant.  I'm not defending EA's practice, just pointing out the stupid reasons as to why things never improved as admitted to myself by a Tiburon employee (i.e. not a higher up).  I'm sure they held on to the assets or at least some of them, but during the time period of the late 90's to early 2000's they scraped the engine every year.  Like I said, I don't know if it's the case anymore or not.

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They definitely reuse as much as possible now...  or they did from 2004-2008 at least...  In the 90s and early 2000s they definitely reworked a crap load of the engine if they didnt rebuild it from nothing.  I think it was 2000 and 2002 that had the same animations though...  I tried to find the old games to compare, but I think they are in a box after moving...  It really isnt as bad as it has been recently with the things they did reuse, at least the reworked the important part back then.  It would have only taken a little work from an intern to make minor improvements to those animations though.

For another game, when the programmers and artists are all saying that the gameplay is horrible on the game, and that it needs to be reworked, and the people in control of that refuse to change anything, that is bad.  That is when someone needs to get the boot.  Then the game releases and gets a 4.2 to 4.5 out of 10, haha.  It was a project that higher ups didn't care about because the fan base behind it would buy it anyways, and for the most part they were right.

Maybe it is a higher rating than the last game of that franchise, but you could make a basic game that is at least functional and still get over a 1.0-1.5.  I know a guy that knows nothing about what makes a good game (oh god if i would share some of the ideas that he thinks are the greatest...) and he still got a group of guys together to make his game and it got a 7/10, haha.  It is one of the most boring games in the world, but they made over $1 million from it. (This guy would be best buddies with high ranking EA executives with how he runs his business too.  Hired a guy, waited 3 months till he got comfortable, then asked him to sign a contract that said he could do nothing outside of work to make profit, and not work for anyone else in the same field for a year. [Kind of impossible with some majors.]  The guy said no, and he was promptly fired.)

I just wish some of these people would care more about the consumer.  As a business owner, the consumer is all I care about.  I know if I make them happy as I can, then the more money I will make.  In turn, I will do anything to make the consumers happy, including releasing free products, demos, add-ons, and so on.  Even if the company was as big as EA, I would do some of the same things.  Go online threw Madden, fill out a quick little form, and then get an email with a serial code for you to get $10 off the next Madden game.  (Once per game disk)  Also have the option to update your roster instead of buying the new game if you wish. (or just make it so you can update the rosters yourself...)

Make Spore, and not charge money for a full demo...  and have a feature in there where you can create 2 creatures and have them fight each other for fun.

Just do things that consumers will love for huge games instead of taking advantage of them, then there would be less people like me who talk crap about them.  Okay...  Im done talking about this company.  I can rant for days about them...

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Much wisdom doth floweth from your fingertips, oh Rational One! I tip my hat to you, good sir.

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Re: Hef, Mini-Me at Madden VIP Launch Party

Do you know what really really saddens me the most. They have the rights to System Shock.

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Re: Hef, Mini-Me at Madden VIP Launch Party

Ironcally, that may have been the only good thing to come from EA's takeorver attempt of T2, a chance for a proper System Shock 3 with Ken Levine at the helm.

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Yeah, but instead they seem to want to develop a mobile phone version, and try and stamp out all fan projects relating to the series.

Seriously, do you REALLY expect them to make a 'proper' SS3 and not the quickest, easiest route to make some money from the name?

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You know what saddens me the most?  The fact that they own Maxis.

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Will Wright's greatest mistake...  well... second biggest, the biggest was having a board help run the company instead of just doing it himself or getting some people he can trust to do it, and have him always have the final say...  The board made Maxis make games on a short timeline that turned to crap because of the deadlines...  then they needed an out because Maxis was going to go under, which was EA.

What saddens me the most is that people still buy their games when they don't care about the consumer at all.

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EA made Sim City Societies a total piece of crap by giving it to Tilted Mill for development.  That's the worst 50 dollars I have ever spent. 

Hopefully Maxis will develop the next Sim City.

I really hope that John Riccitiello improves EA.   Their new Ip's are looking good. 

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Now that Maxis has been disolved into EA by people quiting, being fired, or put into other teams pretty much.  I see much going wrong...  If there is another SimCity it will be way down the road.  Like Diablo 3 way down the road.

I know I am wrong some of the time, but I was right about exactly what would happen to PS3 sales.  So I want to play a little game.  My prediction is that Wright will finish Spore, then make one more minor game, then leave EA.  I might be wrong with this one, but I figure I might as well throw it out there.

I know that is a long shot, but hey.  If I am right, then evidently I have a gift of some sort, haha. Just kidding.

Though the new IPs are really good, I don't see anything Earth shattering other than Spore, which would have happened no matter where Wright was as long as he was making video games. (And maybe better if he was at another company...)  Sports games need an insane boost, as well as old IPs.  Old IPs are not bad, you just have to do something innovative with them instead of minor changes and releasing them at full price. 

Gran Turismo will prolly get to a 12th version before it will die due to the fact of how much they put into those games.  Granted, it will be 2030 by the time the 12th one comes out, but that is part of why they are so successful. They have some of the most advance modeling in the game industry.  I just wanted to add a line in here to see if anyone actually reads my random ranting, because holy hell I do it too much.  I hope it is entertaining at least.  I just like seeing what other people have to say, and where they stand on things.  I learned more about low-poly 3D modeling by remaking their models poly by poly and texture by texture.  That was when I tried my hand in 3D in college though.  Game design is more my thing, but so is running a company, so only one logical conclusion. (Become a golf ball diver, just kidding, but Will Wright was a Baja racer, believe it or not.)

 

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Speaking of Verne Troyer, did anyone see him on TMZ on TV the other night? Hilarious!!!

/"You better call me Verne Troyer, b****!"   XD

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I played Cricket 05 a few times and vowed never to touch sport games. 

I bet at least a quarter of my friends list are gonna be playing this.

 

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I don't think he likes being called Mini-Me anymore.

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We call Arnold "Terminator" and Mark Hamil "Luke". Most easily recognized role WILL be the defeault nickname. ;)

Re: Hef, Mini-Me at Madden VIP Launch Party

I've never heard him called anything other than Arnie, and I rarely have to refer to Mark Hamil in conversation :P

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Madden '03 was the last one I bought.  Since then, the game has tried to become waaay to realistic to be anywhere near fun for anyone who isn't still wearing his High School football jersey.

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I am right there with you on that one...  This year I stopped buy EA games completely because I am sick of how they do this crap.

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And in related news, Heff tries to prove he is still 'home with the downies' at the latest Madden release!

And Vern Troyer? Hah, a man whose career is SO on the rise his last movie role had him being raped by chimpanzees! (No joke either!)

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Madden? Wasn't that that football game? *yawn*

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Yeah....I think they make an exact copy every year, cept a couple of players are different or something....You know, the over-hyped one? The one that's a complete waste of money to get more than once every 5 years...

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Umm...okay...Hef...and...yeah. Hef and a football game. That's cool I guess.

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Reality/////////////////////////////////////Fantasy. Seems like a pretty thick line to me...

Re: Hef, Mini-Me at Madden VIP Launch Party

MADDEN 09!

IT'S THE ONLY GAME BESIDES GTAIV, HALO 1-3, AND COD4 YOUR FRAT NEEDS!  (Seriously, every frat has these four games).

Re: Hef, Mini-Me at Madden VIP Launch Party

Yeah, but even the meat-heads don't have anything to say about it anymore (besides, they're all playing rock-band now... not a bad thing... I love rock band!).

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The main gulf between us and them is that we're good at RB.

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@ GP: W0RD!

 

Although it's hard to find anyone who gets excited over a new Madden nowadays

MADDEN 09! NOW WITH SHOWER MINIGAME!!! TRY TO EVADE TO WET TOWEL SNAPS! RESIST THE URGE TO SNAP YOUR COACH IN HALF! AND TEST YOUR SKILLS IN THIS HIGHLY HETERO, ADRENALINE FILLED SPORT OF LAYING THEM OUT ON THE TABLE AND MEASURING!!!!!! SUNDAYSUNDAYSUNDAY!!!!

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In other news, the Madden series has now become a vehicle for used car dealership ads! BUYBUYBUY!!!

 
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