North Carolina Working to Limit Kids' Screen Time
North Carolina Working to Limit Kids' Screen Time
August 12, 2008
North Carolina is officially looking into limiting the screen time of children.
Gov. Mike Easley recently signed off on the state budget, a 220-page document in which is buried a $100,000 appropriation to establish a task force on childhood obesity. Group members primarily include representatives from the education and healthcare sectors. From the legislation:
The goals of the strategic plan shall encompass the following framework of initiatives...
(6) Developing activities or programs that limit children's screen time, including limits on video games and television.
Video games aren't the only named culprit, of course. Other focuses are providing better nutrition as well more opportunites for children to exercise safely. The task force will report on its findings in 2009.
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DarkSaber: Oh for gods sake, the Gearbox pres is gobbing off about Valve again
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Posted 11/08/09 at 08:53am
JDKJ: But cheer up, Austin. If the unemployment rate continues to double-digit as predicted for the next few years, your half-dozen stands a better than likely chance of returning to power.
JDKJ: But cheer up, Austin. If the unemployment rate continues to double-digit as predicted for the next few years, your half-dozen stands a better than likely chance of returning to power.
Posted 11/08/09 at 08:46am
JDKJ: @DS: If he had added the line about "or hiring illegals aliens under the table to work as nannies," it would have been a completely perfect descripition. And, yes, it's about the same difference between a six and a half-dozen.
JDKJ: @DS: If he had added the line about "or hiring illegals aliens under the table to work as nannies," it would have been a completely perfect descripition. And, yes, it's about the same difference between a six and a half-dozen.
Posted 11/08/09 at 08:31am
DarkSaber: My god, that description makes them sound almost Republican. Still what did you expect, Obama is only marginally more left than republicans.
DarkSaber: My god, that description makes them sound almost Republican. Still what did you expect, Obama is only marginally more left than republicans.
Posted 11/08/09 at 01:07am
Austin_Lewis: Health insurance, brought to you by the same kind of bureacrats who couldn't, in timely fashion, investigate the comments of any of the men Obama appointed Czars. Or their past. Or their history of not paying taxes.
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Posted 11/08/09 at 01:06am
Austin_Lewis: Yes, and what a piece of crap it was. Arresting and fining people just because they don't make a personal choice to buy healh insurance, creating over a hundred new bureacracies, and worse.
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Posted 11/08/09 at 12:24am
ZippyDSMlee: JDKJ:the only trouble is a bunch of witless hacks wrote it....its going to be a train wreck....
ZippyDSMlee: JDKJ:the only trouble is a bunch of witless hacks wrote it....its going to be a train wreck....
Posted 11/07/09 at 11:33pm
JDKJ: BREAKING: In a photo-finish at the wire, House passes health care reform bill. Relatedly, in a fit of pique, Austin Lewis kicks innocent dog.
JDKJ: BREAKING: In a photo-finish at the wire, House passes health care reform bill. Relatedly, in a fit of pique, Austin Lewis kicks innocent dog.
Posted 11/07/09 at 04:27pm
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Posted 11/07/09 at 10:58am
JDKJ: Which could be explained by both (a) and (b).
JDKJ: Which could be explained by both (a) and (b).
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:56am
Austin_Lewis: JDKJ: You forgot C) the fact that, for some reason, every time he did something that would suggest he shouldn't be in the military, let alone an officer, higher ups ignored it or let it slide.
Austin_Lewis: JDKJ: You forgot C) the fact that, for some reason, every time he did something that would suggest he shouldn't be in the military, let alone an officer, higher ups ignored it or let it slide.
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:51am
JDKJ: Part of the problem is, I believe, that (a) the Army had a lot of time and money already invested in him and which they were unwilling to simply write-off and (b) an increasing need for the type of skills and services he provided.
JDKJ: Part of the problem is, I believe, that (a) the Army had a lot of time and money already invested in him and which they were unwilling to simply write-off and (b) an increasing need for the type of skills and services he provided.
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:48am
JDKJ: And that even if he was begging not to get cut loose, he was apparently a real good candidate for being cut loose, anyway.
JDKJ: And that even if he was begging not to get cut loose, he was apparently a real good candidate for being cut loose, anyway.
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:11am
JDKJ: @chada: And while Kennedy once noted that there's usually more than enough blame for everyone to get a slice, the possibility that the Army was unwilling to cut loose someone who was asking to get cut loose could be a factor.
JDKJ: @chada: And while Kennedy once noted that there's usually more than enough blame for everyone to get a slice, the possibility that the Army was unwilling to cut loose someone who was asking to get cut loose could be a factor.
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Yeah, good luck enforcing something like that.
Oh yeah, blame the television and what is the best use of the tv? Video games of course! I also hear sitting down can make you fat, let's limit chair time too. Oh and cars, kids should walk everywhere to burn more calories. Get a real idea please, video games don't cause the most trouble... It's politicians like you who give people the wrong idea that starts trouble.
Hurray for legislated parenting.
So many other things they could be spending $100,000 on...
Ummmm.... so, the big question to me is: how do you regulate children's screen time? Does that mean they bolster the job economy by creating positions for TV monitors that randomly check up on kids to ensure there are no violations?
like that wont be a waste of taxpayers money.
What's with the government getting involved with parenting? It the parents job to limit screen time...
Sadly, I see where they're going with this. We're the most overweight country in the world and people are at their wits end. We all express our displeasure at seeing large children but at the same time we say leave it up to the parents. WE ARE leaving it up to the parents. That's why the kids are fat. We didn't see this a generation ago because of changing cultural values and advancements in all sorts of fields.
I am not advocating governmental control here. Far from it. I just think we should require certain things in schools that promote more activity. Do they still do the presidential fitness test?
Ever seen all of those kids lined up in a row early in the morning doing jumping jacks in China? Yeah, that may sound scary because I said China. Think about it though.
Yeah, certain people have been working overtime to remove physical eduaction from public schools for a while now. Something about it making kids feel bad or something.
It also doesn't help that the media keeps pushing this society of fear thing and making parents afraid to let their kids play outside lest they get hit by a truck, kidnapped or shot in a drive by.
So you can't lay the blaim solely at the feet of the parents nor can it be laid solely at the feet of the government nor the media. All three parties here hold a part of the blaim. Things have been changing for a while now and it will continue on a downward spiral until one of these groups says that it is enough.
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I remember hearing about things like that... also that games like 'tag' are being banned from the school recess because of some adverse mental side effects of being psychologically 'it.' Or some crackpot belief.
We can definitely go all over the place on who is most at fault but I tend to lean more towards parental indulgence more than anything. That whole process of learning to say no and not caving later. Growing up I'd get kicked out of the house to go run around the neighborhood. I don't know if it's a social thing, i.e. more people preferring to not know their neighbors or their kids' friends' parents.
Honestly, I think the biggest issue may be a need for education on all fronts. If you give people information and they continue doing a risky activity (or, in this case, not getting outside to run around for 20 minutes or so), then that's their choice. I think it's the knee-jerk response of saving people from themselves that gets really annoying because it just seems to clutter up the gene pool with those that aren't willing to assess risk/reward scenarios as well as accepting consequences for personal actions.
And this debate can go on and on but I have a feeling we'll never get through to politicians who believe this is a matter of public policy.
You want to teach self esteem and cardiovascular fitness in our schools? Institute Tae Kwon Do instead of "Physical Education". Want to teach self defense so your precious little snowflake isn't getting beat up every day? Sign him up for san-su/judo.
I was chubby all the way through junior high. Got into marching band/martial arts in high school and that sure as heck slimmed me down. Had tons of fights in Jr. High too, but not a single one since i started taking martial arts (a lot of people have similar results oddly).
Parents are so busy protecting their "precious little snowflake" that they're doing more harm than good. My child will NOT be going home after highschool at 2:50 to sit around all day. They WILL have extraciriculars and WILL be in some kind of martial arts. If they want to vegetate on video games after they finish their homework/activities then by all means, they've earned it.
I actually went to a school that did Tae Kwon Do instead of gym and I LOVED it! I have always hated P.E. with a passion, mostly because I hate sports. I also sit on my ass watching TV and playing video games almost every day. I eat a lot of junk food, too. However, I also ride my bike almost every day. If I can stay at a reasonable weight, why can't these fat slobs do it too?
Actually they need to put more kids in marching band. Sweating 4-6 hours daily in the middle of August on hot asphalt (most marching bands use parking lots as practice fields) builds character, not to mention lung power, and endurance.
"also that games like 'tag' are being banned from the school recess because of some adverse mental side effects of being psychologically 'it.'"
The only one I could think of is frustration if you are the slowest perosn playing the game.
Even if though, did these people really weigh the pros v. cons of tags? Did they look at the sides in detail including viewing the evidence? I doubt it. Although even if there's no need to ban the games the kids can opt not to play them.
I hate..HATE WITH A PASSION any touchy feely "everyone wins trophy!" type of shit. Seriously. There was a news article about some new england highschool football coach being suspended and/or fired because HIS TEAM WAS UNBEATEN. The very nature of sports is competition. The minute you take that away and let everyone have a trophy is the minute that same kid graduates from college with a shit degree he didn't earn thinking he deserves to be the CEO of a company he knows nothing about because he's entitled to it. Holy fuck I'm seeing red right now. That's how much this pisses me off.
/breathing/breathing.
Sorry about that.
I agree that these people value the emotional state of children rather than their physical well-being.
Kids won't feel pressure to push themselves to their limits and retain their shape if the don't have competition... of course, this does not apply to everyone.
I, myself have a good set of genes on me that keep from gaining a pound irregardless of whatever crap I eat. (Of course as I get older, my metabolism slows, so I work out a little to offset it)
School legislature is under pressure to give to support to those that are partially disabled, and those that look like the failure of a Jenny Craig product by trying to limit competition...
and everyone is suffering for it.
I see your point. Give a failing engineering student a degree - he might design collapsible bridges. Give a journalism major a reason to graduate when he doesn't do his research for term papers - he goes to intern for Fox News.
Those same losers who want to remove P.E are the ones who love art and music and want more of them.
P.E is something that everyone needs as it helps everyone's health and general society.
Music and Art are helpful to only those who "get" it. They should make Music and Art optional if they wanna help kids. It just makes non-artistical people waste time on something that they do not get. Many people are smart but non-creative and forcing them to take something they don't like or want is a waste of time.
P.E however positively affects society as a healthy society will be more productive.
These same do-gooders also are the ones who dislike "teh evil" video games.
however, P.E can have negative side affects. i'm not saying an active lifestyle is bad, i'm just talking about the class itself.
for example, how kids today are weighed infront of their classmates. it makes the kid who is down to 200 pounds from 210 feel like a loser because they dont wiegh less than the skinny anorexic chick in the front row.
the current cirrucilum in my state seems to cause an unsessary sence of failure when you're marked down for not being able to run for six miniutes. if there was a complete revamp in the cirruclum, like playing games unstead of lifting weights or running in circles, there is a chance that active lifestyle would seem more rewarding than P.E makes it seem.
That's just motivation to keep on trying. As long as nobody else is making fun of the kid the situation's fine.
Don't they play games in P.E? Which state is this? In all my P.E classes we had some excercise and then a lot of games. CTF in 4th grade was lots of fun. A few minutes on some tough excercise is not bad. You can't give A's for effort only. P.E's supposed to be easy so anybody who is reasonably fit gets an A in it. I got A's in P.E all the time even though I'm not that strong or fast.
I think P.E grades are based mostly on how much you participate when you are playing sports and whether you are spirited or not. Basically if you run around and try to be in the center of the action you'll get a good grade. Some part of it might be on how well you excercise.
We can't spoil kids. The real world does not give you an A for effort. That's something that will never change. Kids can't stay in an imaginary world.
I don't know about High school P.E because I haven't take it yet but my experience here and in India is that sports are a bigger part of P.E than excercise.
Which state are you talking about?
I never heard about the public weighing thing, really I don't think people do that anymore.
And if you want better participation in gym add in a bunch of games. Almost everyone loves dodgeball even if you use those really light balls that don't fly very far. I'd gladly sign a waiver saying the school's not responsible for my glasses (or just take them off) if I get to play a few games.
"Those same losers who want to remove P.E are the ones who love art and music and want more of them."
I'm calling bullshit. As someone who was into art and had a mother who was an English teacher who complained about the state of her school constantly, your statement is full of crap. Do you know how many times I had to buy my own art supplies because the schools never wanted to fund the art classes at all?
Or how my younger sister (who played in band) talked about having to pay for pretty much everything in music, how the school only had one music teacher, and wanted to cut the music classes?
It's not just P.E., but RECESS, Art, Music, Theater, Science, Geography, and Language classes that are being cut left and right. Because the administration doesn't feel it's teaching our kids to pass the state issued tests. The only classes important to them to keep is Math and English.
And this stupidity about only math and english are important in the higher offices seems to exist on all levels of education. My County College cut out the Horticulture classes altogether, when we live in an agriculture area. And the College was the closest area to learn from these classes. My College: Want to know Horticulture? Then go all the way up to North Califorina, Socals! Don't come at all for that money we need! By the way, we also cut our journalism classes because they always reported the bad and stupid stuff we did!
I didn't say they are succeding. I guess there are two groups that want to remove P.E. The one is the group that I'm talking about. The other is the money-saving work on math on group. Frankly, I don't agree with removing art and music classes. However I also disagree with making us take them for our graduation requirements.
The school I'm in has plenty of art and music classes and I don't see them being destroyed. Of course you are talking about your childhood. It's sad that many schools have very tight budgets and are forced to do this. I'm just talking about the "do-gooders" who want to cut P.E because their little kid's might get hurt and are always bemoaning the fact that there's so little art and music in the schools.
My High school has tons of those classes and may differ from your experiences.
Frankly, Math is lacking here. So is science. School here is much too easy and a better focus on math and science is needed. More HW is needed and the standards need to be raised. Instead of spending more time on math and preparing for standardized tests you can just increase the difficulty of the classes.
I have lived in India and I can tell you that Indian schools are generally 2-3 years ahead in their curicculum. While there's no need to create workhouses like Indian schools the standards need to be raised. That can be done by more HW and tougher classes.
While more of a focus on the core subjects is needed(English, math, Social studies, and science) you can still keep electives and such that allow kids to choose what electives(or more core subjects) they want.
That means not forcing kids to take "visual arts" classes. I can think of many other fun and career enchaching semester courses that I could take instead of fumbling around with a instrument or spilling paint on myself while simaltenously crippling my GPA.
Music and art, as done in practice, doesn't help all the students but a semester of music or art appreciation could. It should be treated more as a historical class, though. I've taken art history classes in college and I've learned more about world cultures and places, than I have in regular history, which focuses a lot more on the politics more than its people.
Yeah, I agree with you on most of the points. The problem with the physical activity is a combination of finding activities that the kids will like to do while at the same time pleasing the helicopter parents.
For example, a lot of schools are getting rid of dodgeball because schools are afraid of getting sued by the parents of a kid that might get hurt or for that ultimate BS reason "it hurts their self-esteem". Schools are basically getting rid of the games kids actually like to play in favor of games that the kids don't want any part of.
Case in point: When I started highschool, the guys would play good ol' regular football during the spring. I had a lot of fun, even though I suck at football. By the time I was a senior we were regulated to "tail" football. For those of you who don't know what that is, you basically can only "tackle" someone by ripping off these little velcro orange tags attached to a belt.
Suddenly, football wasn't so much fun anymore. I ended up never changing and just chilling on the sidelines or cutting PE altogether 'cause I was bored out of my skull.
I'm not saying we should implment death sports or anything, but kids do respond better if what they are doing is, well, fun.
This annoys the hell out of me. why the heck are they getting rid of dodgeball in school? are they afraid the kiddies will get hurt.
What's all this with hurting feelings and such? If you lose you get motivated to get better
Pain is part of sports. Taking it away is just a stupid idea. Dealing with some pain is always important. Getting hurt or being in a position where you can be hurt always makes everything more fun. Nobody's gonna go to the hospital if they get hit by a dodgeball.
But see, here's the main point these people are trying to make. They feel that it's a constitutional right to never have to be hurt in any way, physical or mental. It's a whole bunch of lovey-dovey nonsense that's ruining our society. It's because of this that schools are starting to ban recess (in more extreme cases. Usually it's just tag and the like), and colleges put in place speech codes. One prevents a child's physical and mental growth, and the other impedes a young adult's educational growth.
People should just face it. Getting hurt is a good thing from time to time.
These people are wanting to remove Recess/P.E. classes because it cuts into their "Study time" for the whole "no child left behind" bullshite at the same time doctors are saying that kids study BETTER if they get more exercise, so heres my question... If it helps kids be healthier AND helps them study, When and where the good golly godamn did you have the momumental brain-shit that tells you to remove it?
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No, getting hurt or being in a position where you can be hurt does not make everything more fun. I distinctly remember the times I got injured in gym, recess, or other sporting type things sucking royally. Nor was the fun in those things anywhere near related to the possiblity of getting. Being put in the hospital is not part of the entertainment, it's painful and boring as hell.
That being said the possiblity of injury doesn't mean that a sport or game should be discontinued. Anything involves some degree of risk.
-Gray17
I'm not talking about going to the hospital hurt or fracture's and stuff. I'm just talking about the stuff that heals in a day or two. The stuff that pains like hell for half a hour and then goes away.
for ex- My toe got crushed while playing cricket once. The umpire would not let a subsitute run for me between the wickets because I could slowly limp. I played 2 times better with the pain because I had to concentrate to ignore it. The pain helped my experience, at least when i look back at it. Playing a fast bowler in cricket while he is targeting your body is something that gets adrelanine pumping.
Knowing that you're flirting with some amount danger is an adrenaline rush for me. That's why i'm not afraid of getting a little hurt.
Mind you, I'm not talking about having my hand broken for weeks or something, just good old pain that isn't too serious.
I guess it has something to do with feeling macho. at least I haven't been ever injured too badly so I guess I don't mind minor injuries.
anyway this is my 2 cents.
I just like the pain because I'm a masochist but that's just me (I'll let you decide if I'm joking or not).
Anyway if a kid gets hurt that's no reason to take away the sport. I sincerely doubt that there is a kid out there who gets his self-esteemed crushed every time he loses no matter what the activity.
Really all the gym teachers have to say to a perpetual loser is that "Not everyone is good at [insert sport here]."
Or just tell the kid he needs to try harder.
But if everyone wins all the time wouldn't it water down the satisfaction for the real winners?
But dodgeball has been around longer than, say video games. How can parents not understand a sport that's been around when they were kids? I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of parents that support dodgeball banning had some traumatic experiences with the sport, or just haven't been playing it long.
"I am not advocating governmental control here. Far from it. I just think we should require certain things in schools that promote more activity."
Well increasing physical activity in school IS one of the goals of this legislation
(1) Providing healthier foods to students;
(2) Improving the availability of healthy foods at home and in the
community;
(3) Increasing the frequency, intensity, and duration of physical activity in
schools;
(4) Encouraging communities to establish a master plan for pedestrian and
bicycle pathways;
(5) Improving access to safe places where children can play; and
(6) Developing activities or programs that limit children's screen time,
including limits on video games and television.
(1)how about just trying making good school food first, then healthier, wait wait wait, i mean make health food that taste good first... wait... neither are possible....
(2) would mean trying to control what people buy
(3)perfectly fine, but they need a QUILIFIED professional to actually do this for exercise best suited for each student to get the results they are wanting
(4)massive money required
(5) even more money
(6) not only money, but also relies on kids to actually do these events which will most likely be lame
1) It's not very hard to provide fruits and vegetables; getting kids to eat veggies can be hard, but fruits can be very sweet... not to mention there are some veggie-meat-substitutes that taste pretty close to the real thing... Hell, even doing something as simple as adding more fiber and less sodium can lead you to better health
2) Or maybe just running campaigns meant to educate parents on the importance of choosing healthy foods for their children, or doing what they can to lower the costs for healthier foods.
3) A heathy diet and exercise is all anyone really needs; you don't need a personal trainer to loose weight and stay healthy... the only difference a personal trainer can really make is how fast you get those results as they know how to maximize the gains, but exercise in general will still produce results in time when combined with a good diet...
4,5,6) What, you were expecting FREE solutions?... the only free solution to child obesity is for parents to do some actual good parenting or for children to start doing better on their own; that's what we've been doing and it's turned us into the fattest nation on earth... so far, doing nothing hasn't gotten us anywhere... providing parents with some education and improving public schools are some good first steps... unlike other countries, ours seems to have become lazy and fat
6) Way to assume the worst... i don't know what kind of activities they may try to put together but they will probably be enjoyable; atleast in regards to kids as a lot of them do enjoy running around and playing with their friends... only real trick is too pull them away from the tv and reminding them that playing outside is fun too... teens on the other hand would be a little harder... but hey, develop healthy habits for kids early on and you may not need to worry about it later
It is the parents job, not the government's. The government needs to worry about the fact of how the education system is failing us in many ways right now, not how fat people are. People will take care of that on their one, especially once they get better educated in the first place.
If you would see a chart of how educated someone is compared to their weight, you would be surprised in how many of the obese people are not very smart and were not well educated by their schools. Granted, too skinny results in less intelligent people as well, but the most of the most intelligent people are at a healthy weight.
So I support the free solution on this idea. Instead worry about educating these kids, get them into college. Then later one, when the education system has been working great for 10 years, then you can talk about how fat people are, but you will realize that people have started to thin out by then. Wait though, these are politicians... So in all reality, I bet you anything that the average weight of the people in that state is dropping already, and that once this idea has ran for a little while, they will talk about how great their plan went, and how great they are. Just like how these idiots are trying to claim that they enforced a rating system for all console and computer games when it was already happening.
No offense but if they -never- do the presidential fitness test again I'll be a damned happy camper. I was a skinny kid all through to about High school where I completely gave up. I was not even a fraction as strong as the other kids, skinny doesn't mean muscular and thats all that damned test was. I had trouble running since I was little, Couldn't lift my own weight with my arms, my spine is all sorts of screwed because of the stupid all the way up sit ups they made you do without rest which by the way are bad for a person when muscle isn't their strong point. I think P.E. that is a better suit to students then a lazy man's PE which I've always had (Basket ball, Touch football, stuff like that which don't do anything for non-athletic kids) might have made me a lot more willing because eventually I told my teachers off and just walked which is why I gained so much weight because I wasn't really active but it was something I could do without getting beat to hell and back, kicked to the concrete and told to walk it off...I'd honestly have prefered something like Martial arts as a potential PE class over hard pavement and all the team kids beating the crap out of me for shits and giggles >_>
Yeah, but this isn't about setting up a rule saying "Children shall only spend 30 minutes a night in front of the tv." It (as I interpret it) is more about developing activities that kids might find more appealing than watching TV or playing video games.
Basically, it's the government playing the role of the creepy guy in the van handing out candy.
Looks like another 'pet project' where taxpayers' money go right to a politican's pocket.
There's no way to enforce any of this.
While I think it is a bad idea to have the government controlling things, if schools and workplaces had appointed health experts to enforce workout sessions in set hours through the day, as is done in Japan, it is likely that you would have a healthier nation all round, and people trying to get out of it saying "My child has a health problem and can't do the work" Too bad! That's probably because he didn't do the workouts before, no one short of being wheelchair bound should say "I can't run, jump or swim for an hour every day, because if they are saying that then it is just laziness and is the exact sort of person such a program should target, that said, there should also be a government provided Gym workout service, like the NHS only without the waiting lists.
If you can't tell, I am at my wits end with fat people complaining that the world doesn't revolve around them, I am not saying I don't like fat people, I mean some of them I spend lots of my time with, but I just can't stand it when someone is morosely complaining about how things in the world don't take people of their size into account when being made. THEY didn't take into account the things in the world when they were pigging out on chocolate and pork scratchings all day! Work shouldn't be harder for the working men having to do extra to provide for people who did not think ahead when nomming their sister's birthday cake!
/Rant
Your soul is a tasty refreshing treat to ones such as I
If you can't tell, I am at my wits end with fat people complaining that the world doesn't revolve around them
Give 'em some time and that could very well change
/sarcasm
But you are right. People who constantly want to change the world to suit their life styles bug me to no end. It doesn't matter who they are. If they want to fit in with society then they should adapt. If they don't want to change, then stop trying to change the world.
It can be as simple as that.
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Geez it only takes a few douchebags taking out lawsuits against McDonalds with the "They made me fat." excuse to make fat people seem like whiny bitches who complain to the world that every thing they make is small compared to me........
And I'm starting to drink V8 so forget you and your probably right generalizations. :P
I kinda see both sides on this argument, not because I'm overweight (Although I admit to having a bit of middle-age paunch coming in) but i'm 5'6 in a country where the average male height is 6ft. But I don't complain about being short, I grab a freaking stool if I have to grab something on the top shelf.
Hunting the shadows of the troubled dreams.
My mom used to be fat, and y'know what? She would have agreed with you 90%. The missing 10% is because she's got a genetic predisposition to being on the heavy side. Anyway, instead of bitching and moaning about the long walk from the car to her office, she started eating right and exercising, and she has lost a remarkable amount of weight. I'm so proud of her :')
Sorry, just had to mention that not all fat people are like that... just a lot of 'em.
We need more dodgeball. That'll learn 'em!
I doubt any state government will try to regulate parenting directly (leave that for another 10 years). However, much of this whole obesity "crisis" is bolstered by opposing forces.
- Gym class is being eliminated because of the "self esteem movement".
- Gym class is also under fire because it encourages little boys to act like little boys and not today's new-age medicated fem-boys.
- Fox News and other media outlets convince viewers that outside is full of Mexican killers, Terrorists, pollution, rapists, and bears.
- The "fat pride" movement is working hard to keep public health and personal/parental responsibility totally invalid.
If they spent that money on after school sports/activities they would probably see better results.
Soething else that bugs me.
If gym class were not relegated to being just another practice session for the current sport season, perhaps more people would enjoy it.
I hate gym class growing up. I hated it because I did not enjoy any of the school sports. So what did I end up doing instead. Running laps for an hour. Total blast don't you think. Give me some activities to do besides running and perhaps it would be more engaging.
The emphasis on school sports is pretty damaging to youth. Kepp them around for those who want to play. I have no problem with that. But when the schools consider you a lower class student because you don't participate in sports, then we have a problem.
E. Zachary Knight
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I remember running in P.E each day in 4th grade so you could get a bottle for running enough miles. that was kind of fun because there was a goal to work at and you could compare miles and stuff. They should do that with some better prizes.
My high school has fun P.E with sports such as hockey and such. Team sports are fun even if you are bad at them.
I don't like how they make sports to be so serious. I mean, if you want to get in a school team you have to get health checkups and stuff. Making sport so serious alienates those who aren't that good at sports. That will just make them ignore it. I hate the emphasis on being on teams and such during college admissions. I liked it when I played cricket in India because our coach was laid back and the main focus was on having fun.
I'm in bad position for college admissions. I'm not good at any American sports and probably will not play for the school. Maybe basketball if i continue to play 2-3 hours daily for a year or two.
Of course there are those vague sports like lacrosse which many people don't play....
My thoughts exactly.
I always hated recess and PE growing up - I interacted much better, and much more willingly, with a book or a screen than with a bunch of noisy kids (read: minors) hitting a solid object around. Besides, why the emphasis on team sports? By their very nature (barring variants), you have only one or two kids interacting with the ball/puck etc. at a time, thus all the unathletic ones who don't want to be playing in the first place are sitting on the sidelines or playing 'defense'. Yeah, real great exercise. Recess was even worse because instead of sitting around bored in a classroom (where at least there was the expectation that you would shut up with an adult in the room) I'd be sitting around bored outside, ducking projectiles every 5 min or so. Aren't some schools now using DDR-esque video game technology in their PE programs? It's like the Wii philosophy - figure out why people don't want to use your product, then sell them something they will like.
I'm not arguing for banning PE, or for that self-esteem BS. (If the kid does have a health problem, though, at least find some healthy physical activity for him to do so he doesn't turn out anemic/obese.) But athletics is like music and arts - great for the kids who like/are good at it, but useless for the ones who aren't. You can force him to run laps every day for 12 years, but do you really think he'll keep going to the gym after college if he grew up considering PE a hateful chore? It's not as though most careers require you to be in great physical shape anyway - I'm not super-fit, but I'm not 50+ lb overweight either, and I like my current body size. (Incidentally, the only PE activity I liked in high school was archery, which does zero for your physical health.)
And now that I've completely bored y'all and gone off-topic...
Mandating something unenforceable that parents should control - Fail. $100k for a 'task force' to 'develop...recommendations' but no money for actually doing anything - Fail. Ignoring other sedentary activities like Internet usage, movies, and reading - oh, that's right, kids don't read these days.
Really? try drawing a 75lb english longbow a few times and tell me what muscles in your upper body aren't telling you "I'm working"
. Hunting the shadows of the troubled dreams.
I know it works your upper body muscles. That helps, how? Doesn't improve cardio/endurance. Doesn't trim fat. If anything, archery leads to arthritis (Wikipedia cites skeletons of English longbowmen with noticeable deformities). I suppose it could help you control your breathing, but so does meditation, a non-physical activity.
Just what we need,more government!
Someday,we will most definetly pay for letting our mentally challenged politicians think they can do this kind of shit and get away,whe nthey should be doing what they were originally given jobs t odo,whic is to portect our rights from those who want t otake them away from uo(here's lookin at Vladimir Putin).
Ya know, I'm really confused by my own state.
We have the Julia Boseman video game law which, for the second year, didn't make it anywhere. Showing that some in the legislature found more important issues to deal with.
Then, we have the Anti-Bullying (Anti-Abuse) law which went belly up because Pro-Abuse organizations and politicians said such a law violated their Right to Abuse children and others.
Now, the Governor appears to be getting behind the issue of child obesity and the desire to limit certain activities.
Consistancy may be spelled with an NC, but NC ain't into consistancy.
:/
Nightwng2000
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You expect them to tackle the same issues over and over again?
At what point does consistency become beating a dead horse?
Oh and perhaps you can elaborate on the anti-abuse law. I doubt that people really argued they had the right to abuse children.
I expect them to be consistant in their "Protect The Children!" attitudes. Video games are bad for kids, but abusing them in any fashion is good is NOT consistancy.
Anti-Bullying law:
The bill itself:
http://www.ncleg.net/gascripts/BillLookUp/BillLookUp.pl?Session=2007&BillID=h1366
Note that the groups listed are general groups, not specific types of individuals within those groups (race in general, not specific races, gender in general, not specific genders, etc.)
Also note that it is not unique to list such groups in laws. Just look at Employment and housing laws for example.
Also note that creating seperate abuse laws from assault, such as child abuse and spousal abuse laws.
I know, you didn't bring those up, but others have in relation to trying to argue against the law.
Below are a couple of articles about the law. I'm sure you could find a few others. I only did a Google News search, so there are most likely plenty of other blogs and sites chattering about the law, both for and against it.
http://www.fayobserver.com/article?id=299375
The next link is the op-ed piece referred to in the previous article.
http://www.fayobserver.com/article?id=299261
http://www.fayobserver.com/article?id=299446
I also relate the fact that without such lists, an opponent could make the "Founding Fathers" argument. It's an argument very common in Freedom of Speech arguments. It's the argument that says that the Founding Fathers didn't mean for <fill-in-the-blank> to be protected by Freedom of Speech. The Founding Fathers could foresee certain situations and now, we're in that situation and since so-n-so doesn't like that thing, we'll argue that the Founding Fathers didn't mean for it to be protected. So, take out the list, and then when someone is abused because of so-n-so, argue that "oh, they weren't meant to be included because so-n-so".
So, yes, the arguments being made in opposition to the Anti-Abuse law are actually arguments to support a desire to argue the Right to Abuse others. An individual is ALWAYS entitled to their beliefs and opinions. HOWEVER, when one starts abusing other individuals directly, then the victim's Rights are being violated. Verbal (even in writing), mental, physical, and/or sexual abuse, even if one justifies the abuse through religious dogma, is still abuse and a violation of the victim's Rights and is still abuse.
The same is true whether the person is being abused for their race, gender, religious, sexuality, physical characteristics, and even because of how they dress, the books/movies/TV shows/Video games/music/politics/etc that they expose themselves to. Much of that isn't included in the bill. Much to the satisfaction of certain "Culture Warriors" who advocate abuse because of those not listed groups.
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Wow, taxes money hard at work finding the nearest drain possible. Great job government officials... Maybe tomorrow you can just wipe your butts with the money and flush it down the drain instead. At least then it will have been put to use before disappearing.
So who is looking for votes with this idea.
How about schools mandating exercise while doing school work in class? I exercise while playing video games when load screens come up, and while watching TV. Teach these kids how to multitask, they will greatly need it in the work force.... Nah that wont work... How about limiting the amount of food they are allowed to eat at lunch, real workouts by qualified professionals during PE, and beating parents upside the head that are obese without medical reasons.
I understand some people have medical reaons behind why they are overweight, and that being too skinny is bad too. Too many people in this world are just flat out way too fat for no real reason other than their unhealthy ways and laziness. I admit, I have family members in this group... It takes some work, but it adds years to your life...
At the same time though, the GOVERNMENT HAS NO RIGHT TO CONTROL PEOPLE and what they do. I hate to be a propagandist, but across the world governments are slowly stripping away the freedoms of the people.
"If we restrict liberty to attain security we will lose them both." - Ben Franklin
That includes, if we let the government restrict how we live our lives, to keep us alive longer, we will lose those freedoms to live free, and we will live shorter. We must let society go the way it must, swaying its direction when needed. May it be by encouragement or educating, those are some of the few right ways to keep societies on track.
Meh, something like that at least... I just hate seeing the government go against the forefather's wishes of how our country was to be ran, and that the founders were wiser than the people currently in position of power, when they were to never to be in power, but instead people of representation.
Last I checked, North Carolina was still in the USA, and didn't somehow defect to China.
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This legislation is just granting money for programs that will provide a healthier alternative to sedentary activity. There is no regulation arising from this because this is a budget bill, not a proposed law. I'm all for it, except that it assumes that you can't be active while playing a game. That's just uneducated because of dancing games, Wii waving games, etc.
How the hell are they supposed to constitutionally enforce this? Oh wait, they can't.
From what i can tell their is nothing to "enforce", they are creating activities and doing what they can to improve health... They are not making a law that makes it illegal for children to spend too much time in front of a tv or computer... Legislation isn't just about making laws but also putting together social programs. The idea is to create these activities, spread the word, and them hope that children will choose to participate in them (or parents will force their kids). Essentially, the participation is purely voluntary
Here's the list before he mention of video games...
(1) Providing healthier foods to students;
(2) Improving the availability of healthy foods at home and in the
community;
(3) Increasing the frequency, intensity, and duration of physical activity in
schools;
(4) Encouraging communities to establish a master plan for pedestrian and
bicycle pathways;
(5) Improving access to safe places where children can play; and
(6) Developing activities or programs that limit children's screen time,
including limits on video games and television.
if you have to bury it, maybe you shouldn't be doing it. In fact, you probably already know you shouldn't be doing it.
Remember that US Telecom act of 1997?
It totally killed after school TV time, with the downfall of TV cartoons. It was supposed to replace it with more educational content. But instead we got reruns of Cops and talk shows replacing Digimon. Yeah, THAT's a lot better for kids.
I feel the same way about what this will do to TV again.
So THAT'S what happened?! That killed Fox Kids!
This'll make parents even lazier.
Sweet! Hey, why don't you wipe the parents asses too while you at it!
Another thing that killed kids' afternoon TV was the fact that the FCC fined stations if any commercial contained even a fleeting glimpse of any character from the show, claming it turned the whole cartoon into a half-hour commercial. Stations were getting $50,000 fines because a commercial for cereal had a "FREE POKEMON SPOON" promotion, for example. Easier to just stop showing cartoons instead of having fines thrown at you that you couldn't even protest if you wanted to continue broadcasting...
but the cartoons i grew up were nothing BUT 30-minute commercials for toys.
how absolutely stupid are people to infect their children with lack of control over the television?
Here are we -- and yonder yawns the universe.
I wonder if these laws are still in effect. Will TV networks go back to showing afternoon cartoons? Well, anyways, kids get their education from school, they don't need doubly much from the TV when they have homework to do. And there was already a network in place that showed educational kids' programming: PBS.
FOR GOD'S SAKE! Why, WHY, does the government want to be a surrogate parent so much? This is definitely a keen insight into why our country is so screwed up, the government is wasting tax dollars on pointless "task forces" that try to raise people's children for them instead of focusing on the real problems...
LET. PEOPLE. PARENT. THE. WAY. THEY. WANT. It's their job, not some idiot politician's.
Unfortunately, the rest of society suffers if they don't do a very good job. Parents have certain responsibilities, many of which the government can already enforce. Just as parents do not have the right to starve their offspring or deprive them of other basic necessities, perhaps it's time to let them know that they don't have the right to turn little Johnny into a raging hambeast either.
Ideally, I'd like to see required parenting courses in schools that cover everything from diapers to proper nutrition. I understand that such things exist in some places, but they are nowhere near as widespread as they should be. Trying to balance out the failings of modern parents with in-school initiatives (ie. bans on junk food, more physical education, etc.) is only a temporary solution, and the government needs to ensure that the next generation of parents will be able to shoulder the responsibilities that the current generation cannot.
Yeah, try forcing me to take courses on changing diapers in High School. Not in a million years. That's a waste of time in High school. A better solution would be some sort of parenting program in the local community that adults have to take if they are having a baby. Like getting a driver's liscence, except to raise babies. Think of it this way, raising a child properly can be thought of being even more important than driving well. It sounds crazy but if we need to have driver licences than we should have parent licenses. Of course there's no chance that this will happen.
High school is an incredibly stupid time to teach teenager's how to be parents. Trust me, teenagers won't take it seriously at all and won't learn much.
"High school is an incredibly stupid time to teach teenager's how to be parents. Trust me, teenagers won't take it seriously at all and won't learn much. "
As a senior in high school, I can testify to that :P.
As a sophomore, I too can testify to that. :)
Though it might discourage them from having a baby.
The same could be said of any highschool course, but I found that when I got to university, I benefited tremendously from even a slight introduction to any given subject. You'd be surprised how much information you retain without even trying.
Besides, there's no way to force parents-to-be to take parenting courses, but if you get 'em while they're young, there's a chance that they'll remember at least a little bit of what you teach them. At worst, it might convince a few of them that they are nowhere near responsible enough to have a child.
This is why there should be a king of the world... at least said person doesn't take CRAP from any of the retard parents.
"In order to limit children's screen time we are are implementing something called reverse televesions or "tele screens" these will monitor the children and make sure they get enough exercise."
insert 1984 reference here =p
There's already a perfectly good monitor that limits kids time on tv... It's called not having cable.
you know what REALLY scares me? im a martial arts teacher and id like to teach my kids kung fu, however im a firm believer of the scream method, since it releases energy into every movement. Now what if im teaching my kids in my own home and a nosy neighbor hears all the screaming and calls the police or child services. Try explaining a bruised and screaming kid to a cop and or nosy neighbor. its not that i beat em up or anything but the very nature of chizao bruises arms and legs, although it doesnt really hurt. im afraid id loose my kids to the nanny state that wants everyone in a bubble.
To be fair, this is a valid response, especially in areas that have a "noise pollution" ordinance. It's not "nosy" if you can hear it halfway down the block. People will call the police over anything from barking dogs to partying teenagers.
My only advice is to get on really good terms with the neighbors. Let 'em know who you are and what you do, show 'em the kid really likes it, and maybe they'll be less inclined to complain about "that kid doing karate again" when they hear the screaming. On the flip side, if someone does call child services, you'll have a streetful of people to testify to your good character.
Jesus Christ I hate this country. Just another way our tax dollars are being flushed down the fucking toilet.
Flushed down the toilet? It's more like getting slapped in the face and robbed of your wallet.
*Kid turns on the television.*
IDENTIFY
*Kid holds up right hand*
IDENTITY CONFIRMED, WELCOME Richard Hoplin
Richard Hoplin, YOU ARE ALLOTED TWO HOURS OF SCREEN-BASED ENTERTAINMENT
*Channel flickers to Logan's Run*
"There is NO sanctuary!"
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For a second I thought you were talking about that show where contestants had to guess other people's jobs (or other things) based on what they look like. That would be an interesting show for kids, too bad it's not on anymore.
Lol what ever happened to freedom of choice? Who have the right to judge what we waste our lives on? America land of the hypos and the liars, set out to free the world you say? Why you can't even free your own people, better yet make up laws to restrict the freedoms that your fathers gave their life for. Upholding the constitution is not the first priority any more, bending it to suit your own moral code now that's more like it.
America is the stuff of George Orwells nightmares. America is real.
Yea and Americans who read this, you let this happen to your own people somewhere between ww2 and now you traded the "land of the free" in for "a nation under god". Laws like this is not the beginning because the beginning was a long time ago. You can't blame this one on the terrorists.
Spoken like someone that probably has never READ "1984" or who has ever lived under a true dictatorship/totalitarian state.
America is not perfect and the current administration has done a lot of curtailing on personal liberties. But we are a LONG way from Orwell's Oceania in 1984 and just as long of a way from a true dictatorship/totalitarian state.
These laws don't restrict or legislate jack, they're just there to set up social programs and the like. They're not really laws they're just budget details.
Oh and Oceania/1984 was more than just Big Brother
Oh, iv'e read 1984 a few times, and what made it so damn scary wasn't the living conditions, it was the way the goverment breed the population, trained them from the craddle to believe in their ideal (in your case god). Only the ideal they taught was not the ideals they lived by (in this case imperialism). You fight for god, for freedom (nice looking words) against terrorism and suppresion (bad words). Yet your own goverment creates legislations and restrictions, you say you fight for their freedom, do you think stealing their natural resources (oil) will help them through this horrible time?
Your goverment can come with outrageous claims saying something like "Irak have nuklear weapons" and then when it's clearly proven they do not and your attack was uncalled for they change the battlecry from "homeland security" to "freedom in the middle east". And no one will dispute them on that claim, since well you went in to irak to free them and mission accomplished right? Because there was no nuke then clearly you can't have gone in to find something that wasn't there, the truth is much simpler you went in to save them right?
Oh and since when was deciding how much time a person should spend his/her time with a certain activity not considered restricting his/her rights? Budget details, social programs? If anyone have to abide it as if it was a law i don't care what they call it, it's still a law.
I do not fight for God. I believe that if there is a God he wouldn't need my help (or anyone else's).
And have you not seen the incredible amount of flak the Bush administration has taken over the Iraq war and how Mccain is trying his best not to look like Bush?
Oh an no citizen has to abide by the law, all the suggestions and things in that bill are voluntary.
Part of me thinks that all of this shit will reduce when our generation is in control, but it's never going to stop...
Ultimately their hearts are in the right place with this. While video games are not to BLAME for the obesity epidemic they are a factor. I totally agree with the previous analysis which talked about how we say "leave it up to the parents" but we have been and that's failed.
I'd be interested to see what their goals are here. This is really vague legislation which is created more to give the appearance that something is being done than actually ACCOMPLISHING anything. They COULD use this to create athletic programs and stuff, that would be great. But I fear all that will happen is a bunch of talking heads will sit around a table and yak about stuff.
I think certain people have read too much into this, if you read the text it says "develop activities" to reduce screen-time. That's a laudable goal. To me that sounds like attempting to create interactive, athletic, outdoor ACTIVITIES that are alternatives to screen-time, not to simply say "no more than 2 hours of video games a day." Of course this also seems to ignore the exercise potential of games like DDR and WiiFit
Okay, I understand that a lot of parents are doing a horrible job when it comes to their kids' health, but government regulation? We'd have to think of another name besides the free world for this country if the government started calling shots in kids' lives.
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Capitol Gaming
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lol. Gamers talking about encouraging fitness. Maybe we aren't as lazy and fat as the steoreotypes make us to be.
That or we've seen the effects of sitting in front of a screen for hours on end.
Ok, so I'm not even remotely fat, but I am out of shape. If I spent less time in front of my computer I would probably be happier and healthier, so it's only natural that I would want to keep others from repeating my mistakes.
Nintendo is indeed selling SOME of these on the Virtual Console but not even close to all of them. While i agree in part to his piracy he was filling a market that Nintendo failed to recognize. Maybe someone doesnt want to buy a Wii. maybe they just want a console with 50 - 100 NES games on them?? maybe just maybe?
but no Nintendo wants everyone araba kiralama to buy the Wii. thats their excuse but thats not what copyright is supposed to protect. i am real sure that the makers of 10 yard fight were losing sleep because they were missing out on their $0.00025 worth because they didnt get royalties from this player. *smirk*
my question is, should Super Mario Bros. be banned from public domain forever? isnt 23 years enough time for Nintendo to have made their profits?
If you have followed the Steamboat Willie case regarding Mickey Mouse you can rest in your bed well at night knowing that the MOUSE will still be under copyright law, away from public domain after your great grandchildren are in nursing homes. That is beyond ridiculous dont you think??
Gallagher can araç kiralama say all he wants, but I strongly rent a car believe it's due to his crappy leadership and E3 being a joke. ESA's Board of Directors need to find a way to get out rent a car of this horrid contract with this Bush cronie before there's no one left on the Board.
Btw, I think Atari and Midway will drop out too, but mostly travesti because these guys have done nothing ttnet vitamin or little and need to start saving costs.
YES.
Now I don't have to get off my ass for the important shit anymore!
Whats next, ordering pizza from Xbox live?
Wait... I think that sounds like a good idea.
But I think voting should MAKE you get off your ass, and see outside or a second while you go vote. I mean, your picking the president of the United States of America for God's Sake... least you can do is drive down there and punch out a card.
Thanks good job;
Btw, I think Atari and Midway will drop out too, but mostly travesti because these guys have done nothing travesti or little and need to start saving costs. and dizi izle
YES.
Now I don't have to get off my ass for the important shit anymore!
Whats next, ordering pizza from Xbox live?
Wait... I think that sounds like a good idea.
But I think voting should MAKE you get off your ass, and see outside or a second while you go vote. I mean, your picking the president of the United States of America for God's Sake... least you can do is drive down there and punch out a card.