Funniest Thing You Will Read Today: Classic Jack Thompson

August 15, 2008 -

Do you think Jack Thompson's act is a recent development?

No way.

Thompson has been waging his unique form of culture crusade for a long time. At least two decades, in fact, as demonstrated by this 1988 official investigative report from Deputy State Attorney Marshall King Hall to then Florida Governor Bob Martinez.

This one is a classic, featuring Thompson, Janet Reno, a shock radio jock and a mysterious phone phreak named "Fruitcake."

GP: Since we're publishing on a light schedule due to GP's U.K. visit, this seems like a good point at which to share this with GamePolitics readers.


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Re: Funniest Thing You Will Read Today: Classic Jack Thompson

I'm all for freedom of ttnet vitamin speech and allowing rent a car game makers to put whatever they want in games, but there's one thing about this app that has me scratching my head.  Correct me if I'm wrong, but from araç kiralama the previous article araba kiralama on this I gathered that players can use Google maps in-game to find the other (real-life?) dealers in their area.  If this is the case, has travesti anyone considered what's stopping someone from using this app to actually move drugs between hands for reals?

But majority araba kiralama of their outrage araç kiralama stems from what it could DO TO children, not the content itself.  Talk to one of these people and you'll find they don't think any books kiralık araba should be banned from children.  Mention American Psycho and they talk about kiralık araç the redeeming value of using imagination to construct a story.  Reading, no matter what the content, is largely viewed as a consequenceless activity for people of any age.  The reason why I mention American Psycho is because of the content itself.  Gaming never has and likely never will have any scenes where someone has sex with a severed head.  Not gonna happen.  Yet despite this, they'll fight tooth and nail to protect their children from two boys kissing in Bully but whatever they read is harmless... yeah.

The entire arguement is kiralık oto based upon a social normality inflicted by luddites who can't figure out the controls for Halo so it's frightening and terrifying and obviously the cause of youth violence on the rise even though, in reality, it's in decline (which is actually a HUGE suprise given minibüs kiralama the economies status).  In  a perfect world, we would have parents that actually parent.  The idea of sales restrictions on media on oto kiralama any form to accomidate parental unwillingness to get involved with their child's life is the real problem to me.  Here I am, 32 years old, and being held up at a self-scan rent a car needing to show ID before I can buy a $10 M rated game all because Soccer Momthra can't be bothered to look at the crap Billy Genericallystupidson does in his free time.  It's too hard for her, so I have to suffer?

Re: Funniest Thing You Will Read Today: Classic Jack Thompson

@DavCube

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Possibly fake. no slashes carried over from /b/ or wherever he goes.

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Re: Funniest Thing You Will Read Today: Classic Jack Thompson

Thanks guys.  I read through some of the quotes, and obviously taken out of context, but he compares a game to a gun.  A game is not a gun.  It is an entertainment medium much like a movie, music, or television program.  A gun is a tool.  In either case if the game or gun was used or motivated someone to kill a person I don't see how the game or gun is to blame.  It is the person who did the deed.

Jack Thompson seems not to believe in free will, from what I have gathered so far, and personal accountability.  Also he keeps refering to God.  He does know that not everyone shares in the Christian beliefs and that law should taken account in that so it would be fair and balanced for all people of all beliefs.  Also I found his statements about Islam repugnant.  He does know that the God of Islam is the same God of Abraham, Moses, and Jesus, right?

I must do a little more research before I come to any final conclusions.

Re: Funniest Thing You Will Read Today: Classic Jack Thompson

I also find it ridiculous that anyone should try to use religious beliefs in that sort of a way.  Since anyone can make up their own religion if they want to (I did it a few years ago, still working on it), you could justify anything at all for religious reasons.  It's quite possible that JT doesn't even hold most of the core beliefs of Christianity, and simply uses them to justify his own twisted actions.  Then again, considering his comments about Islam, he's probably one of the worst kind of fundamentalist, that have twisted their religion beyond all semblance of what it was originally about.

Re: Funniest Thing You Will Read Today: Classic Jack Thompson

  A surprisingly large number of people don't realise that the god(s) of all the Abrahammic faiths are one and the same, at least if you go back far enough.  Not that that's any excuse.  Neither gun nor game is to blame, but thompson doesn't exactly hate games, he just thinks that without themhtere would be less of [insert crime here].  In that respect, he's a bit like governments that ban guns, eg UK.  The thing is, he really doesn't seem to get what you said.  I will therefore repeat it. A GAME IS NOT A GUN.  And anyway, there are legitimate and morally defensible uses even for a gun.  Just not very many of them.

Correction to what I just said.  JT appears not to think that a game is the same as a gun, but that it is "just like a gun, only MORE SO".  After all, you don't see him going after a massive proportion of the US public because they own firearms, do you?  Not only that, but there's a wide variety of games and guns (bigger of games, in some ways), and some are much worse than others.  People say Jacky-boy-John B T needs medical help.  All he really needs is to GET A CLUE.

Sorry for going on and on about games and guns, but I saw a useful example/metaphor so I used it.

Re: Funniest Thing You Will Read Today: Classic Jack Thompson

Is there ANYTHING Jack does to his opponents that does not involve legal action? I mean, he's a lawyer and all, but geez, every solution doesn't require a hammer for a carpenter.

Re: Funniest Thing You Will Read Today: Classic Jack Thompson

I haven't had much exposure to this Jack Thompson person to be honest.  I see snippets from his ranting about the GTA series but that is about it.  If the provided link from the article is the norm of this lawyer's behavior then yes, I agree, that is unethical behavior.

Re: Funniest Thing You Will Read Today: Classic Jack Thompson

Sorry, but that was me.  Forgot to place the name.  As I said, I am not overly familiar with the man.  I have just gotten back into video gaming with a decent PC and XBox 360 after skipping a generation or two.  If a person can show me an unbiased accounting of Thompson's behavior it would be much appreciated.

Re: Funniest Thing You Will Read Today: Classic Jack Thompson

You can read the report of Judge Dava Tunis - the referee at Jacks disciplinary hearing. Its official court document. It was linked here some time ago.

Re: Funniest Thing You Will Read Today: Classic Jack Thompson

Jack Thompson is the man that gamers love to hate.  I for one see his antics as being unprofessional, but do I hate him?  Nope.  Just because I disagree with him on so many levels does not mean I don't think he has to right to state what he has to say.  He could use a bit more ettiquet in my humble opinion, and so a bit more professionalism in the courts, but ultimately he does have the right to say what he wants to say.  FIrst Amendment is a double edge sword.  Just as much as Take 2 and Rock Starhas the right to make games and sell games as they wish, Jack has the right to object to such.

When a game company makes a game I don't particularly like I just don't buy it.  Best way to combat businesses who makes "questionable" goods is not to do business with them.  Get enough like minded individuals and you can create a boycott.  Personally I thikn that Jack, and people like him, should just mind their own lives.  Live their life as they choose and let other people live their lives as they choose.

Why can't people just leave each other alone?

Re: Funniest Thing You Will Read Today: Classic Jack Thompson

Actually, the issue at hand isn't that his opinions differ from so many gamers. It's quite a bit more than unprofessionalism as well. His behavior is often harrassing and aggressive to the point where many individuals he attacks are caused actual distress. He has every right to speak freely, but he routinely crosses the line into making threats, spurious requests to law enforcement to take action against people with whom he disagrees and fraudulent claims misrepresenting himself, his clients, his opponents and even those he would name as so-called allies. Unethical is clearly a stronger word than merely unprofessional. A lawyer who wears a t-shirt to court is unprofessional. A lawyer that perpetrates a fraud on the court and knowingly ignores the rules of his profession and the state is in violation of his ethical duties. In short, the problem is that he is a lawyer...a profession where speech is more than just grandstanding on television...it is a carefully circumscribed responsibility that he has abused frequently in his obsessive desire for the recognition of his singular goals.

The First Amendment allows for reasonable discourse. Free speech is meant to protect an opposing viewpoint and open dialog between differing parties, not for someone to continually use his position as a lawyer, with all the powers and tools integral to the job, to bludgeon, shout down and curtail the speech and opinions of others.

I don't hate the man since I don't know him, but honestly I hate his actions cloaking himself in the First Amendment while trying to take those same precious rights away from others.

Re: Funniest Thing You Will Read Today: Classic Jack Thompson

I don't think most of the community 'hate' him, at least, not in the 'I wish you a slow and painful death' way that Thompson hates us. They just get frustrated at the lies he spouts, and more frustrated at the foolish news outlets that don't bother to check their facts before printing them.

Really, the problem isn't Thompson, it's those News outlets, if people spent 5 minutes actually making sure the story was factual before publishing it, Thompson would get no air-time whatsoever, but he relies on news outlets like Fox News and the Daily Fail, because they have no respect for facts whatsoever.

Re: Funniest Thing You Will Read Today: Classic Jack Thompson

Daily Fail?

I mostly get my news off of the BBC.  If you want good unbias news on the US, BBC is probably the best bet.  Never really bothered with Fox News since I don't particularly like their programming.  Then again I haven't turned on my television for about 4 years now.

Re: Funniest Thing You Will Read Today: Classic Jack Thompson

The Daily Fail is the more commonly known name of the Daily Mail, due to it's ongoing homophobic attacks, racism and stereotyping. Jack'd love it.

Yeah, the BBC is a good source for unbiased news, but like you, I don't really watch TV any more, at least on the Internet you can search around and get several points of view on something, not simply get one forced upon you.

Re: Funniest Thing You Will Read Today: Classic Jack Thompson

(snort) - I think I've seen the future! 

If Jack gets disbarred he's gonna start rotating out which government agency he complains to until they all ban him.  Makes sense if you think about it - he started out with the florida courts, then DOJ, now the IRS.  When they stop listening he's gonna make his way down the line to the FCC, ASPCA, and EPA.

(snicker)

I don't actually believe that IRS complaint letter is real, although I admit, there's an outside chance it could be. Thing is,  if he REALLY wants to screw with your IRS , I say, you know what,  go crazy...really.  Call attention to yourself.  Seriously.  To the rest of us human beings that still have working brains,  we'll stay the heck out of the way.  If there's only two agencies in the country that you do not want to piss off,  It's DOJ and the IRS.  If they get angry, they will MESS YOU UPAnd they will not take 20 years to do it!  So, I gladly say, on the off chance that was the real jack and he actually did complain to the IRS.  Enjoy, you kick that hornet's nest, see what comes out.  (*ducks and covers*)

 

"Even if it was online gaming that somehow inspired him to kill his parents, he must have realised at some point that they wouldn't drop any good loot." - GP member, Doomsong

Re: Funniest Thing You Will Read Today: Classic Jack Thompson

wow... he becomes more and more delusional by the day!

Your soul is a tasty refreshing treat to ones such as I

chick chick chick chick chickeeeeen lay a little egg for meeeeee!

Re: Funniest Thing You Will Read Today: Classic Jack Thompson

Dear Mr. Jack Thompson:

Thank you for sending us today, August 17, your Whistleblower complaint against ECA, the parent of GamePolitics.com.  We shall let you know the result of your challenge to its tax-exempt 501(c)(4) status as a result of ECA's targeting of you.

Sincerely, The Tax Man, IRS

 

 

Re: Funniest Thing You Will Read Today: Classic Jack Thompson

Of courese it's fake!  You're MEANT to know it's fake.  This is what people call a "bad joke".  That's what I see in it, anyway.

Re: Funniest Thing You Will Read Today: Classic Jack Thompson

OK this is obviously a fake.

The IRS only uses proper names in correspondence.  Hence they would address JT has John B. Thompson not Jack Thompson.

BTW Jack, before you go sending in "anonymous" tips to the IRS let me let you on a little secret about IRS standard operating procedures.  If you turn a company or an individual in for any sort of tax wrong-doing the IRS may audit that entity...  ONLY after they audit YOU first.

So go ahead JT fire away at the IRS.  Spam their fax machines.  Show them the type of lawyer you are!  In turn they will give you all the attention you rightfully deserve.

-Loudspeaker
"Volume helps to get a point across but sharp teeth are better."

"Volume helps to get a point across but sharp teeth are better."

Re: Funniest Thing You Will Read Today: Classic Jack Thompson

Just a thought, but if the IP of this poster is Thompson, isn't it illegal to falsify communications from a Government body? Even if it's done incredibly badly?

Re: Funniest Thing You Will Read Today: Classic Jack Thompson

Um... guys. It's blatently obvious this is fake. People have been making fake letters like this for years.

Re: Funniest Thing You Will Read Today: Classic Jack Thompson

Hence the reply to my own post.

Re: Funniest Thing You Will Read Today: Classic Jack Thompson

Though, thinking about it, this attempt is so bad that it could almost be considered an unintentional parody of the IRS.

Re: Funniest Thing You Will Read Today: Classic Jack Thompson

'Sincerely, The Tax Man, IRS'

Er.... Yeah...

 

Re: Funniest Thing You Will Read Today: Classic Jack Thompson

You can tell this is fake because it uses the word "whistleblower" and it's signed "The Tax Man".  Think we'll get to fight him in Mega Man 10?

Re: Funniest Thing You Will Read Today: Classic Jack Thompson

Actually, it's fake because it uses the phrase "we shall let you know the result" in what's supposed to be a letter by a government agency.

Re: Funniest Thing You Will Read Today: Classic Jack Thompson

You know... in trying to think of this as a real letter, I picture it being written in crayon.  And it makes me snicker-fit.

Re: Funniest Thing You Will Read Today: Classic Jack Thompson

Obviously a joke. Thompson can't get the attention of ANY federal organization, and if he did, why would they post their reply here?

Re: Funniest Thing You Will Read Today: Classic Jack Thompson

By the way, I'm just wondering if Dava Tunis knows about this?

Re: Funniest Thing You Will Read Today: Classic Jack Thompson

Jack... Jack... Jack...

Give it a rest will you?

Regards,

Shadow Darkman and "Locnil Fignirf"

(Had to make an anagram for my friend's name. Lucky I thought of it, because then I wouldn't have to SNIP it.)

Re: Funniest Thing You Will Read Today: Classic Jack Thompson

No.

Re: Funniest Thing You Will Read Today: Classic Jack Thompson

.....No?....No....Jack?....Maybe....

.........You know what?....Yes. Yes, you should.

I think rest would be good for you, Mr. Thompson. A nice long rest. Maybe it'll help clear your head so you can think about the things that should really matter to you...Like your sickly wife and only son...

Love them and cherish them, please, before they find out about your disbarment and insanity, and (most likely) leave.

Then you'll be all alone. Noone will want you, noone will want to put up with you.

All you'll have is you, yourself, and...well...you.

Then you'll be nothing but a sad little man with a lawyer's suit and briefcase and no license.

Re: Funniest Thing You Will Read Today: Classic Jack Thompson

Nice try there Jackie boy, but I've only played GTA once due to curiosity and haven't touched it sinc. I'd hardly consider myself an addict of games, least of all GTA.

Re: Funniest Thing You Will Read Today: Classic Jack Thompson

Jack Thompson reminds me of those people who attack peadatricians for abusing kids.

Re: Funniest Thing You Will Read Today: Classic Jack Thompson

Can I just say how funny Jack is?

 

Back before this year, he pissed me off and I hated him, but now every time I hear about him or see him post, I get a great kick out of it.

Re: Funniest Thing You Will Read Today: Classic Jack Thompson

And insane babble to actual logic...

Your soul is a tasty refreshing treat to ones such as I

chick chick chick chick chickeeeeen lay a little egg for meeeeee!

Re: Funniest Thing You Will Read Today: Classic Jack Thompson

Guys, it's not him.  He's got bigger problems wouldn't you say?  Besides, last time I checked even Jack-of-the-hill-people knows full well that SCOFLA won't listen. I suspect if that were him he'd be threatening to take us to federal court.

"Even if it was online gaming that somehow inspired him to kill his parents, he must have realised at some point that they wouldn't drop any good loot." - GP member, Doomsong

Re: Funniest Thing You Will Read Today: Classic Jack Thompson

I think you put far too much trust in Jack's powers of reason. If you've read some of the stuff at Jaablog, where he hasn't been banned, then you'll see that reason and Jack parted ways quite a while ago, with no forwarding address.

And I too have never played GTA. It's not my bag, man (to put it in lingo Jack can understand). And I actually haven't played a game in far too long; work, RL, and sleep tend to get in the way when you're busy.

Re: Funniest Thing You Will Read Today: Classic Jack Thompson

yeahi recently started checking out that blog, umm can anyone tell me wh he felt the need to talk about himself on the isaac hayes death post?

Re: Funniest Thing You Will Read Today: Classic Jack Thompson

Doesn't surprise me. He just hates in when dead people get any amount of attention more than he does. (ie Hurricane Katrina: "I'm over here while this hack is talking about Katrina..." something like that)

Re: Funniest Thing You Will Read Today: Classic Jack Thompson

 Please can someone help me out, with something to do with Crazy JT's history! I may have asked this before, but has he promised to go on a shooting spree against "sinners and non belivers" before. I swear he has!

So thanks if you can help me out! 

Re: Funniest Thing You Will Read Today: Classic Jack Thompson

Wikiquote helps.

Re: Funniest Thing You Will Read Today: Classic Jack Thompson

Jack seems to prefer explosives to guns.

Re: Funniest Thing You Will Read Today: Classic Jack Thompson

 well he IS shooting paper at anyone that even looks funny at him, so...

Re: Funniest Thing You Will Read Today: Classic Jack Thompson

Is it just me, or does that picture remind you of a young Hugh Jackman?

Re: Funniest Thing You Will Read Today: Classic Jack Thompson

I think it's just you. Hugh Jackman (at any age) looks a hell of a sight better than JT will, ever.

Re: Funniest Thing You Will Read Today: Classic Jack Thompson

Practically ANYTHING looks better than JT.  If it doesn't, 10 minutes in photoshop and it will.

You're losing!

So, Jacky Boy, how does it feel to be up against the ropes while getting hammered away by the gaming nation while you're trying to swing wildly, looking for a lucky punch that will knock us out? Sorry Jack, the lucky punch is not coming, and the ref is gonna stop this fight. You're losing, Jack, so do yourself a favor and keep your mouth shut. Maybe you'll be able to leave with some dignity.

Re: Funniest Thing You Will Read Today: Classic Jack Thompson

Jack must have a lot of extra time on his hands to leave so many postings. Are you board Jack, or are you just trying to salvage what little dignity you have left? All I'll be able to say when you do get disbarred is "Finally, justice is served".

Re: Funniest Thing You Will Read Today: Classic Jack Thompson

You think this is funny?  What until you see what I am about to send to the Florida Supreme Court.  You'll change your diapers, you GTA addicts. Jack Thompson

 
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