Actually, it was Mortal Kombat 2 that had the blood and fatalities intact.

Actually, he didn't say the Wii was a DVD player, he said that if a Wii is considered family friendly, then a DVD player should be considered that as well.

It's called an analogy.

He's saying that each and every piece of hardware has varying pieces of software. It's not supposed to be mutually exclusive levels of content per hardware. You don't see PS3 owners spewing their lunch over having Kingdom Hearts games, do you?

The main point of this is that there ARE ratings on the box, and that they should be READ. There is NO requirement for Nintendo to publish only E-E10 rated games, just as DVD players aren't limited to G-PG movies. Get it?

Of course, if the media wanted to put video games in a respectable light they would publish BOTH sides of the 'debate' (and I use that term loosely)

The problem is while the dedicated gaming community knows that 98% of these warnings on violent video games are complete trash, the main readership of the Daily Mail (if there even is one these days) are still uneducated on many of the counterpoints that we keep bitching about to eachother. If gamers want to fix these issues about the media continuing to bash their medium, they need to step away from their forums and start getting the message out to the public through other means (and NO, school shootings are not the way to get a message across)

Oh look its the village fruit-loop. Haven't you got a disbarrment hearing to go to or something?

Is that the one where they did about 15 minutes of study per subject? As in, not nearly enough time to create the long-term effects that that you so yearn to hear?

'Everyone who studies this'? Who's everybody? I know it's hard to accept, but you're not 'everybody.'

You're one to talk about not liking facts, Mr. "I can make death threats over the Interweb and You Can't."

David "DavCube" Gagnon, Mature Human Being, and YOU'RE NOT.

Interactive violence is more likely to modify behaviour than passively-consumed media? Then why are you not going after paintballing and firing ranges, or boxing gyms?

...who cites no authority... like you do?

Children’s Brain Activations While Viewing Televised Violence Revealed by fMRI, http://www.mindscience.org/murray_mediapsych.html

This pattern of results may suggest five conclusions: TV violence viewing in children (a) is emotionally arousing; (b) leads to activation of a network of regions involved in attention, arousal, and salience; (c) recruits a phylogenetically-old brain system involved in the detection of fear or threat in the environment; (d) is accompanied by activation of limbic and neocortical systems likely to be involved in the episodic encoding and retrieval of the environmental context associated with such threat; and (e) is accompanied by activation of premotor regions possibly involved in the programming of motor plans (fight or flight). The relevance of these findings [is that] a more primitive system within his or her brain (amygdala, pulvinar) may not discriminate between real violence and entertainment fictional violence.

The study suggests that the brain is more active when watching action sequences, and that it ignites the "what would I do in this situation?" response in viewers. It also suggests that if you can't tell the difference between reality and fiction, you might apply fictitious rules to reality. That's why we don't let minors play violent games unobserved.

Mr. Thompson, you are the most entertaining troll I have ever seen.  Thanks to you, I can improve my mood in a few seconds when I'm not in a good mood.  Thank you for providing so much comedy and entertainment.  For free too.  Thank you, kind sir.  I have not seen a better comedian.  The fact that you are serious makes it even more comedic.  Better than TV, I say.  I hope that you shall provide even more entertaining trolling after you are disbarred. 

"What we have here is simply a pro-game industry flak who cites no authority for his positions"

So says the, being, who never links to his own sources. For someone who believes that gamers can't read, you seem rather afraid of us, you know, reading those reports.

"Secondly, of course Nintendo has cultivated a family-friendly ethos.  How could anyone have missed that over the past 15 years?"

Indeed they have, however, this is NOT the first M rated game they've had on their hardware. Mortal Kombat 3, as someone nstated, I think was their first. Mortla Kombat 2 had the blood removed, and thanks to that partly the Genesis version of the game beat the pants off the SNES version. Doom as well as Duke Nukem has their own releases on the Nintendo 64, as did Goldeneye, and Turok, the most violente game on that system IMO.

And don't get me started on Conker's Bad Fur Day. I think that was the most offensive one to date. IF any parent got that for their child because it looked kid friendly due to the cartoon squirrel o nthe front, well, since the rating was right there, a big fat M, I have no sympathy for them.

So yes, Nintendo has had games rated Mature on their systems before. They simpyl realized they were alienating a potential audience.

And remember, Thompson, the Wii has Manhunt 2. How successful were you in stopping that again?

You know what I say to that?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eWFj1KShcI

Also, why aren't you attacking the movie industry? Movies are interactive. On a DVD player I can replay the goriest scene of a movie all I want, and what of those "choose youe ornw ending" movies. Those are interactive. Where's cry to ban those?

Hmmm nothing better to do... If so might I suggest you read all the research out there rather than cherry picking and distorting to suit your needs?

Also, even passively consumed media fires mirror neurons... guess we'd better keep our eyes shut in front of the TV huh?

Gift.

PS. Arguing from authority is a logical fallacy...

PPS. You might want to read this (it cites Murray btw), of course I expect you to do so while performing the psychological equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears and shouting "lalalalala". :D

Do you know what gives me a real belly-laugh every time I read one of your posts Thompson?

Your Ignorance.

Apparently, anyone who sides with the gaming industry must have an agenda, whereas anyone who sides against it is as pure as the Driven snow and don't have any agenda whatsoever.

You are a transparent phoney, and that's why you've been losing friends left, right and centre, despite your ongoing denials.

Personally, I think it all dates back to that time you were stupid enough to let someone test-drive your car and you never saw it again, I think that finally triggered your own physcopathic episode, and you've been trying to prove you are not an idiot ever since. Pity you are still waiting for success.

To quote Henry Rollins when talking about you:

'His thing is he wants to get rid of the weed by chopping off the top of the dandelion.

He doesn't want to get the roots. So I put it to him like this. Do you think perhaps you wouldn't have someone like Luther Campbell if you had educated him, given him a good home and taught him how to read and write and offered him the same opportunity that you and I had? Maybe that's more interesting to write about than calling women bitches all the time. And don't you think maybe that Luther Campbell's pretty fucking amazing for coming out of a ghetto with very little education and winding up a multi-millionaire?

I don't think you have done it and I don't think I've done it. So I put it to him and he didn't have an answer. All he's interested in doing is just turning lights out and saying he's solved the problem by taking 2 Live Crew records off the shelves. That won't stop rape and cruelty to children and women like he says it will. He tries to come off as this good guy who's doing you all these favors and he's not doing any favors. He's this white-bread chickenshit fucking Christian guy who's never been to a ghetto.'

Is it that you can't read, or you won't read, Thompson? Are you dyslexic? Does your mental disorder prevent you from understanding simple concepts you don't want to deal with?

Can't counter his arguments so make one up that you can, is that it? Where is he saying that Nintendo has not cultivated a family-friendly ethos? He's not denying that, he's saying that being family-friendly is not exclusive to offering mature content. Thus the DVD argument.

As you wouldn't know, Nintendo has been around for over an hundred years and been making video games since 30 years. Your choice of 15 years as another one of these arbitrary numbers to come out of your ass is ironic, considering until 15 years ago there could even be an argument, but 15 years ago, the ESRB was created to address just this situation, making this whole thing a complete non-issue.

he wont, because he has no proof

岩「…Ace beats Jack」

I am curious about something though.  Has Jack, since this mess began, tried to disprove or even make mention of the charges against him?  In a way by not trying to defend himself from the accusations he pretty much has declared himself guilty.  It is like some piss poor trick at sleight of hand to get the focus off of the charges he obviously has no defense against.

So Jack, let me word this as simple as possible so you would understand it.  Say you rob a liquor store and are arrested.  Then it turns out the arresting officer gets fired for downloading internet porn on a precient computer.  You will not be released from having to attend trial and be free to go.  So if Tunis is removed from your case as you so wish then another judge will be appointed for your career flogging.

The guilt of another does not prove your innocence.

If he cared about that he would have given up on this long ago and moved on., and NEVER woudl have used them to gain sympathy or to try and "prove" his "point"

I imagine it's beacause GP blocked his old username.  Jack burned through at least fifty Livejournal accounts before Dennis moved the site off that system.