Video games are powerful learning tools, according to research presented at the annual convention of the American Psychological Association in Boston.
As reported by the Associated Press, researchers presented findings that games can help kids solve problems and make surgeons better at stitching up their patients. From the AP:
"The single best predictor of [surgeon's] skills is how much they had played video games in the past and how much they played now," said Iowa State University psychologist Douglas Gentile. "Those were better predictors of surgical skills than years of training and number of surgeries performed," Gentile said. "So the first question you might ask your surgeon is how many of these [surgeries] have you done and the second question is, 'Are you a gamer?'"
One study even explored whether World of Warcraft improves scientific thinking.
Researchers looked at a random sample of [WoW] 2,000 discussion posts... The study found the game encouraged scientific thinking, like using systems and models for understanding situations and using math and testing to investigate a problem.
The vast majority of those participating in the discussion posts, 86 percent, shared knowledge to solve problems and more than half, 58 percent, used systematic and evaluative processes, researchers found.
The forums show that gamers are "creating an environment in which informal scientific reasoning practices are being learned" by playing the online games, said Sean Duncan, a researcher at the University of Wisconsin at Madison.
Not all was sweetness and light in regards to video game research, however, as the AP article points out:
Other studies confirmed earlier research that found students who played violent games tended to be more hostile, less forgiving and believed violence to be normal compared to those who played nonviolent games.
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Re: American Psychological Assn: Games Are Powerful Learning
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Interesting studies - interesting posts too. I have to say I'm not incredibly impressed with the number of impersonators and trolls that are about the site (or seem to be).
In regards to the article, I have to say that I'm glad more results on these matters have finally come out. I recall reading a similar article some time ago and I could not relocate it for a research report, so having this information will be helpful in the future. I hope they continue running studies like this, though I agree with some of the initial comments that they could define better what their meanings are for some of these more general statements - both positive, and negative.
In regards to the trolls, I cannot help but laugh. It's healthy though, that so many of us "gamers" are able to vent our feelings against people like that here on these forums. Honestly, I agree to some extent that video games can go too far; however, I do not believe all video games go too far - in any context. Nor do I believe for a moment that Video games can alone create violent tendencies in children. I believe that certain psychological and emotional states are more likely to act upon the information processed during the play of a video game, but I would never believe that the level of this influence is such that it is the sole cause of violent action or tendency. Rather, I suggest that Video games stimulate certain areas of the mind which the vast majority of people are able to easily and without restriction "switch off" - while others of the great minority are, in fact, incapable of such function in their mental state (which, in my theory, pre-exists through either genetic coding or previous stress-related situations).
In a less "I r s-mart" terminology - I believe that just as certain people cannot get in to video games by the suspension of disbelief, others (a great minority) cannot fully suspend reality, causing them to blur the two worlds they are dealing with, which may cause them to utilize actions of the false world in the real world - sometimes with dire consequences.
However, despite this theory, I do not for a moment suggest that we would eliminate games, movies, books, television and other potentially harmful artistic expressions to prevent this possibility - anymore than I would suggest that we eliminate McDonalds for their unhealthy menu of what many believe to be delicious foods, or Wal-Mart for their outrageously cheap prices that may cause smaller businesses to go under. Sometimes, we need a source of entertainment - just as we sometimes do not have the energy after a long day to cook dinner, or the money to afford the smaller businesses higher prices.
We also cannot continue to hold the source accountable for video games, nor generalize about the population that plays video games, without holding similar standards on all fronts. We do not penalize the manufacturer of firearms for creating the weapons used in the murders that our society endures. Nor do we penalize the salesmen of the firearm (provided their sale was legal, which is an important distinction to make) for legally distributing the weapon. Rather, the person is held responsible for the crime, and their reasoning is an aside to their guilt in the matter. In the same argument, we cannot state that all gamers are overweight, unemployed slobs that live in their parents basement just because a portion of gamers fit some or all of that demographic any more than we can state that because a group of businessmen stand outside their office and smoke, all businessmen smoke, outside their office, while standing.
Anyways, for those that are curious, yes - I do play games, quite frequently. In fact, I'm currently in college for a degree in Game Design (www.uat.edu). Proudly, I'm entering my 4th year of college and still have a 4.0 GPA (Yes, on a 4 point scale), which should at least give some credit to my "level of intellect".
Quote: Sorry, reading this, I'd have to say the person who typed this is a liar and needs to dumb down his post,If he were a game designer... have fun teaching kids to kill innocent people and becoming fat obese nerds with no lifes like you, and tell fitness buff he such a total liar, no "strong-man" would ever waste using a computer...i've been wondering why he has fought back to me in a day, i guess his mother told him to get off the computer,And the rumored genius who sent this post is even a bigger liar,If he is a practicing game design,then let me now after you get diabites from drinking one too many red bulls.
Smarter than any follower of a moron
I'd have to say that the so-called follower of the Metropolitian Moron of Miami is a liar who needs to be smartened up. Tell me, how does Jack's ass taste?
I don't drink Red Bull, but I do know you can get diabetes from drinking Kool-Aid(your beverage of choice, apprarently) all the time.
Besides that, they don't make enough Jack Daniels in Tennessee to make everybody believe the B.S. of a fool like Jack Thompson.
There is no proof that "violent" video games or any video game cause harm. After all, video games are protected by the First Amendment, and like I’ve been posting, if you’re going to infringe on a Constitutional right like freedom of speech based on the claim that the speech in question is “dangerous”, then you better damn well show absolute proof of that. It’s NEVER been done.
If there is a danger so clear and so threatening to the American people that causes these self-righteous politicians to step on the First Amendment, wouldn’t any rational thinking person have to believe that the danger would have to be so obvious and clear that there would be no argument against it? Especially since you’re directly contradicting a Constitutional amendment.
We, the American people, have not been given any valid reason to believe that this abridging of our freedom of speech is necessary. There just simply isn’t any evidence at all of any danger from “violent” video games. This “protection” from “violent” video games isn’t needed or wanted for that matter, but please feel free to use everyone’s tax dollars for protection from things like a 10-foot storm surge from a Category 3 or greater hurricane or the fuselage of a 747 airplane entering the workplace or the home.
Here's a quote that best describes Thompson and the mainstream media, from a deleted scene from the school shooting episode of the TV show One Tree Hill, by Brooke Davis(played by Sophia Bush) after a news reporter asked her how she was feeling while the standoff was still going on:
“You should be ashamed of yourself. There are kids inside our school fearing for their lives right now, terrified that someone’s going to put a gun in their face and pull the trigger, and you want to know how I’m feeling?! Our pain is not a commodity for you, it’s not a newsbite to boost your ratings, because tomorrow, or the next day, or the next week when we go back to school, changed forever by a day that will never leave us, where are you going to be? At the next tragedy, thrusting your microphone in the face of the next fractured person, asking them how they feel? Lady, that is not journalism. You are not contributing anything to society. You’re buzzards circling the carnage, but you prey on the living. That is how I’m feeling, but something tells me that you’re not going to hear that.”
Practice what the soon-to-be-former-attorney preaches, loser: Grow up and get a life.
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For the sake of argument...
I'll start off by stating that only the sections in which the context states the material to be fact are indeed claimed to be, fact - most of my post was written opinion and theory.
That aside - I'm curious to know why you consider me a liar? Do you suggest one of my comments which claims to be fact is actually not? Or do you instead mean to disagree with one of my points - in which case I would ask which one and why? Not that I honestly feel you will reply to this post with anything sensible, but I'm curious all the same. Why do you feel I need to "dumb down" my post? Most of the comments on this board are typed well and contain thoughtful remarks - though some (including most or all of your own, "follower") are merely attempts to incite anger or displeasure in the opposition.
As to comments about "teaching kids to kill innocent people..." (etc.) This seems to be a rather large generalization about the duty of a Game Designer. Keep in mind that there are titles out there considered to be "games" that help children learn math, science, writing and other things. There are casual games, such as Luxor and Zuma which are not about killing at all - someone designed those as well. Someone designed the games on your cell phone too, such as tetris. The Nintendo WII has games such as Wii Fitness, Wii Sports, Wii Olympics.
Also keep in mind that "Game Designer's" can be further generalized into the people that designed Soccer, Football, Hockey, Golf and other sports, as well as board games such as Scrabble, Life, Stratego and Risk. Card games like Poker and Blackjack were also designed at one point or another - and as they are considered "games", they are in fact created by "game designers".
However, in the mindset that you intended your target to be solely "Video game designers", I again note that there are many games which do not teach kids to kill or be violent at all.
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Lulz,YOUR A FAG THAT PLAYS VIDEO GAMES,IS EXTREMELY OBESE AND BUILT A FAGGITY WEBSITE WHERE A FAT OLD MAN TROLLS IT AND CAUSES THE SITE TO BITCH AND MOAN, WHILE MASTURBATING TO FAKE DOA WOMEN.
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Interesting studies - interesting posts too. I have to say I'm not incredibly impressed with the number of impersonators and trolls that are about the site (or seem to be).
In regards to the article, I have to say that I'm glad more results on these matters have finally come out. I recall reading a similar article some time ago and I could not relocate it for a research report, so having this information will be helpful in the future. I hope they continue running studies like this, though I agree with some of the initial comments that they could define better what their meanings are for some of these more general statements - both positive, and negative.
In regards to the trolls, I cannot help but laugh. It's healthy though, that so many of us "gamers" are able to vent our feelings against people like that here on these forums. Honestly, I agree to some extent that video games can go too far; however, I do not believe all video games go too far - in any context. Nor do I believe for a moment that Video games can alone create violent tendencies in children. I believe that certain psychological and emotional states are more likely to act upon the information processed during the play of a video game, but I would never believe that the level of this influence is such that it is the sole cause of violent action or tendency. Rather, I suggest that Video games stimulate certain areas of the mind which the vast majority of people are able to easily and without restriction "switch off" - while others of the great minority are, in fact, incapable of such function in their mental state (which, in my theory, pre-exists through either genetic coding or previous stress-related situations).
In a less "I r s-mart" terminology - I believe that just as certain people cannot get in to video games by the suspension of disbelief, others (a great minority) cannot fully suspend reality, causing them to blur the two worlds they are dealing with, which may cause them to utilize actions of the false world in the real world - sometimes with dire consequences.
However, despite this theory, I do not for a moment suggest that we would eliminate games, movies, books, television and other potentially harmful artistic expressions to prevent this possibility - anymore than I would suggest that we eliminate McDonalds for their unhealthy menu of what many believe to be delicious foods, or Wal-Mart for their outrageously cheap prices that may cause smaller businesses to go under. Sometimes, we need a source of entertainment - just as we sometimes do not have the energy after a long day to cook dinner, or the money to afford the smaller businesses higher prices.
We also cannot continue to hold the source accountable for video games, nor generalize about the population that plays video games, without holding similar standards on all fronts. We do not penalize the manufacturer of firearms for creating the weapons used in the murders that our society endures. Nor do we penalize the salesmen of the firearm (provided their sale was legal, which is an important distinction to make) for legally distributing the weapon. Rather, the person is held responsible for the crime, and their reasoning is an aside to their guilt in the matter. In the same argument, we cannot state that all gamers are overweight, unemployed slobs that live in their parents basement just because a portion of gamers fit some or all of that demographic any more than we can state that because a group of businessmen stand outside their office and smoke, all businessmen smoke, outside their office, while standing.
Anyways, for those that are curious, yes - I do play games, quite frequently. In fact, I'm currently in college for a degree in Game Design (www.uat.edu). Proudly, I'm entering my 4th year of college and still have a 4.0 GPA (Yes, on a 4 point scale), which should at least give some credit to my "level of intellect".
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Just asking to be sure, but that isn't actually JT is it? I don't think it is, but you can never quite tell.
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If I recall, my grammar was fine in that post. Re-read yours, as I think you're the one in need of spell check there. And it's becoming increasingly obvious that you aren't even a Jack Thompson "Follower", but just an internet troll, as no intelligent person would actually say that 128 pounds is the weight of a fat person, let alone a diabetic. I'm 18 years old, and at that weight I'd probably be considered too skinny if anything. Oh, and did I mention that only 2% of my weight is body fat?
And I'm going to stop arguing with you now, whoever you are, as it's become perfectly clear that you're nothing but a sad little moron who get his kicks off of fucking with people on the internet. I must say, you actually make the real Jack Thompson seem like a tolerable/intelligent human being by comparison.
At least he has half decent grammar, and his insults can occasionally provide a few unintentional laughs.
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Submitted by Paul T. Farinelli - August 19, 2008 at 1:47 pm -0500
I'm a liar? May I ask, how do you know this?
Listen kid, I'm not someone like you who gets his jollies from lying and being a troll on the internet. All I know is that for some reason, you assume I'm fat, or a "game addict" or whatever, and I'm just telling the straight truth. That being that you are wrong. The fact is I run a minimum of 4 miles 5 days a week, and am in excellent shape. I'd bet I could kick your ass, although I wouldn't want to be accused of hitting a mentally impaired kid.
And "psuedo-intellects"? Are you kidding me? You're the one with an undeserved sense of superiority, and you also seem to think you can fool any of us into thinking that somehow you are intelligent. But the thing about that is, you're not fooling any of us. The rambling incoherant messages you send are enough for us to surmize that you're, in fact, an idiot.
Yeah, Excellent shape huh?, You did admit to being 120lbs or 125lbs?, Well, thats the weight of a diabetic...And you are a liar..i wouldnt let your fat obese hands touch my perfect health body,And sorry im not a little kid, i finished FSU when i was 15 years old, and wait...I am intellectual,I dont have to know your comebacks came from a intellect troll website, And i cant help but feel like im going to die from laughing over reading a misspelled poor grammar post that you sent to me...Perhaps you are the troll?...Im just doing my best to revive the morality that is america itself., and instead im getting attempts to be teebags by faties like you, and even if you could through a punch..you go into diabetic shock the first thing you swing your fat obese fists,Oh wait..i thought you did say you were 120lbs?...But that couldnt be when i sai you were fat...youre actually 486lbs..So go easy there Shamu, And tell game politics to stop being serial killers through video games and get a real life, i love mines being married and having a kid...And oh WAIT YOU DONT, playing GTA,Bully and Manhunt and being a pedophile dont count as jobs for you, thats why im leaving the post happy that i proves to you video games are responsible for the mass shootings and crime rates in america...And oh..im not a troll, Trolls live under bridges and have sex with goats like you...And its the truth...The japanse are racist with their video games and anime, And it is posioning the mind of our children.
I bid thee farewell you worthless morons called "Game politics".
"Teach your kids to shoot hoops,Not people."
GP: a faker... (sigh)
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120lbs is the weight of a diabetic? Yeah, for a 6-year-old, maybe. Have fun sounding like a pedophile. I'll be over here acting like a normal human being. It's all the rage these days. You should try it.
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The only thing your worthless ass proved is that you're an assclown and a narcissist. You didn't impress me one bit, and frankly, I can give two squirts of monkey piss what you think.
The crime rates in America are actually at their lowest levels since the "golden age" of television. Video games have actually reduced crime.
And people like Jack Thompson are really ruining America with their bullshit. I mean, he's such a good "Christian" that he's teaching kids that it's OK to lie to get the results you want. And that it's OK to put price tags on dead bodies.
The Japanese are better than you, worthless turd, and certainly are not "racists". Their anime is infinitely better than the crap that passes as entertainment in America these days. I mean, High School Musicial? Hannah Montana? Overrated, much?
And basketball sucks. Football's better.
Don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out, jabroni, but before you go, Here's a quote that best describes Thompson and the mainstream media, from a deleted scene from the school shooting episode of the TV show One Tree Hill, by Brooke Davis(played by Sophia Bush) after a news reporter asked her how she was feeling while the standoff was still going on:
“You should be ashamed of yourself. There are kids inside our school fearing for their lives right now, terrified that someone’s going to put a gun in their face and pull the trigger, and you want to know how I’m feeling?! Our pain is not a commodity for you, it’s not a newsbite to boost your ratings, because tomorrow, or the next day, or the next week when we go back to school, changed forever by a day that will never leave us, where are you going to be? At the next tragedy, thrusting your microphone in the face of the next fractured person, asking them how they feel? Lady, that is not journalism. You are not contributing anything to society. You’re buzzards circling the carnage, but you prey on the living. That is how I’m feeling, but something tells me that you’re not going to hear that.”
Practice what the soon-to-be-former-attorney preaches, loser: Grow up and get a life.
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Can someone translate his post to english for us?
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I would if I was fluent in Asshatian
岩「…Ace beats Jack」
岩「…I can see why Hasselbeck's worried about fake guns killing fake people. afterall, she's a fake journalist on a fake news channel」
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I will, for the 2nd time, post this:
An Internet troll, or simply troll in Internet slang, is someone who posts controversial and irrelevant or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum or chat room, with the intention of provoking other users into an emotional response or to generally disrupt normal on-topic discussion.
And, would you like me to show all of the gramatical mistakes you've made?
Besides the fact that you don't know how to use a comma....
being a pedophile dont count as jobs for you
i wouldnt let your fat obese hands touch my perfect health body
But that couldnt be when i sai you were fat
do I need to go on?
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I'm a liar? May I ask, how do you know this?
Listen kid, I'm not someone like you who gets his jollies from lying and being a troll on the internet. All I know is that for some reason, you assume I'm fat, or a "game addict" or whatever, and I'm just telling the straight truth. That being that you are wrong. The fact is I run a minimum of 4 miles 5 days a week, and am in excellent shape. I'd bet I could kick your ass, although I wouldn't want to be accused of hitting a mentally impaired kid.
And "psuedo-intellects"? Are you kidding me? You're the one with an undeserved sense of superiority, and you also seem to think you can fool any of us into thinking that somehow you are intelligent. But the thing about that is, you're not fooling any of us. The rambling incoherant messages you send are enough for us to surmize that you're, in fact, an idiot.
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Submitted by Paul T. Farinelli - August 19, 2008 at 11:31 am -0500
Umm no, I am actually quite fit, and there is no ifs ands or buts about that. I do like me some video games, but actually rarely play them to be honest. I'm on Cross Country, Indoor Track, and Outdoor track teams respectively, and probably get more excersize in one week than you do all year. When was the last time you ran ten miles?
I have no clue as to who you really are, but the incoherance of your posts seem to indicate that you're in need of some grammar classes, or perhaps mental help.
Yeah 128lbs isnt bad...if your a diabetic who spent 24/7 rotting their mind and health playing video games and living off twinkies,Then decided his friends and family noticed he was too fat to get a real woman,Then all we know your mom and daddy told you to get your obese self and get some excercise...And youre post is even funny how your really much a liar more than a fitness buff.
Submitted by sortableturnip - August 19, 2008 at 12:25 pm -0500
He's prob some pimpled-ass 14 year old that pissed off because he has to go back to school on Monday, with nothing better to do than to troll around and post in all caps LOOK AT ME IM THE SCHIZZNITZ!!!!
And kid, fix your spelling and grammar, I dont think your penis size is getting tinier with the pressure your build in that ...or what i call "Mental masturbation"... of your puny mind,
Let alone all of you are psudeo-intellects.
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Let me put this in a way that even YOU could understand.
YOU. ARE. STOOPID. AND. OOGLY.
I misspelled them just for you to understand. Aren't i just swell?
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Yeah 128lbs isnt bad...if your a diabetic who spent 24/7 rotting their mind and health playing video games and living off twinkies,Then decided his friends and family noticed he was too fat to get a real woman,Then all we know your mom and daddy told you to get your obese self and get some excercise...And youre post is even funny how your really much a liar more than a fitness buff.
128 lbs. is only fat for a gradeschooler or a citizen of a third-world country. hell, you need 300 pounds to be near obesity
And kid, fix your spelling and grammar, I dont think your penis size is getting tinier with the pressure your build in that ...or what i call "Mental masturbation"... of your puny mind,
Let alone all of you are psudeo-intellects.
fix your spelling and grammar, he-with-no-intellect-whatsoever... can't even spell 'quote' right or properly use the words "you're" and "your"
岩「…Ace beats Jack」
岩「…I can see why Hasselbeck's worried about fake guns killing fake people. afterall, she's a fake journalist on a fake news channel」
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*claps* Very good...no caps this time....don't see where I made any gramatical mistakes, though...unless you're talking about the shizznitz comment, which in that case, I don't care less.
...and you spelled pseudo-intellects wrong
BTW, this one's just for you...
An Internet troll, or simply troll in Internet slang, is someone who posts controversial and irrelevant or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum or chat room, with the intention of provoking other users into an emotional response or to generally disrupt normal on-topic discussion.
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Umm no, I am actually quite fit, and there is no ifs ands or buts about that. I do like me some video games, but actually rarely play them to be honest. I'm on Cross Country, Indoor Track, and Outdoor track teams respectively, and probably get more excersize in one week than you do all year. When was the last time you ran ten miles?
I have no clue as to who you really are, but the incoherance of your posts seem to indicate that you're in need of some grammar classes, or perhaps mental help.
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He's prob some pimpled-ass 14 year old that pissed off because he has to go back to school on Monday, with nothing better to do than to troll around and post in all caps LOOK AT ME IM THE SCHIZZNITZ!!!!
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Submitted by Paul T. Farinelli - August 19, 2008 at 10:47 am -0500
Is that JT's son or something? If so, his son is even more of a fucked up moron than him.
Oh, and next time ace, think twice before you call all "gamer's" fat. I'm only 128 lbs, and run at least 4 miles 5 days a week, and lift weights as well.
EDIT: And the above is written under the assumption that you are, in fact, either a "follower" of the human scum known as Jack Thompson, or the real deal. If not, you're actually even more pathetic and should find something better to do than pose as a JT follower.
Good exercise for cheating on a Wii fit and Manhunt 2, Get some real exercise Junior, We know it takes weeks,maybe months for a real human, (excluding gamers) from getting in top physical shape, Exercise is like Sunlight to you fat dimwitted people called gamers with your online pseudo-intellect.
Teach your kids to shoot hoops, Not human
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EZK, can we get the ban hammer, please? This guy is getting really annoying and is straying completely away from the topic to horde the attention onto himself.
"Follower," you're the reason Thompson thinks gamers are sub-humans.
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hell, we need a few new mods to lighten up the work load for the existing ones as well
岩「…Ace beats Jack」
岩「…I can see why Hasselbeck's worried about fake guns killing fake people. afterall, she's a fake journalist on a fake news channel」
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Is that JT's son or something? If so, his son is even more of a fucked up moron than him.
Oh, and next time ace, think twice before you call all "gamer's" fat. I'm only 128 lbs, and run at least 4 miles 5 days a week, and lift weights as well.
EDIT: And the above is written under the assumption that you are, in fact, either a "follower" of the human scum known as Jack Thompson, or the real deal. If not, you're actually even more pathetic and should find something better to do than pose as a JT follower.
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JACK THOMPSON HAS BEATEN GAME POLITICS...VEGANCE IS MINE!!!!
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Yeah, you do need proof, moron.
Like a "$1,000 chair" is supposed to impress me?
Oh, and Thompson is a hypocrite. A true red, white, and blue American would not endorse the terrorists that our troops are fighting, yet Thompson did just that.
A real American wouldn't be endorsing or "writing" legislation that takes away rights from Americans.
And I'm laughing at you from my $100 chair...because you paid $900 more than necessary to get a chair to sit on...
And is there some study that says gamers make less money than non-gamers...
And Jack is a hypocrite...his son owns a Xbox 360 and a PSP...if you don't understand what I'm saying (and I believe you don't) Jack's son is a "gamer"
Oh've what part of i dont need proof to make my claims when i got plenty of CNN,MSNBC and FOX news to tell you my points that are true, And take a good look in the mirror...what piece of shit comebacks are these's? obloiviously...You meth-chipping dimwits have been eating one too many bags of doritios, not to mention stealing, copying and pasting flase comebacks...Really, You faggots are patheitc....ITS HONEST...I DO MAKE MORE MONEY THAN YOU....IM BETTER THAN YOU AND WILL ALWAYS BE,Dont tell me you idiots ever heard of the "Straw man" fallacy arguement im giving you.
To all nerds of game poltics...Stop being fat serial killers and teach your kids to shoot hoops, not people.
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The saying "If it bleeds, it leads" is so true when it comes to the garbage news channels with the bubble-headed bleached blondes that tell you about the latest tragedy with gleams in their eyes, because it's interesting when people die and everyone wants dirty laundry.
It's amusing that you use a gay slur when your "deity" filed gay porn with a court and you must dream of having the Metropolitian Moron of Miami doing the deed with you.
It's also amusing that you claim to be better than us, when we're all doing better than Jack Thompson.
Grow up and get a life, loser.
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two words:
EPIC FAIL!!!
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Dude. Enough. Stop with the joke posts. People are actually stupid enough to believe these posts are from a genuine 'follower' of that lunatic? Please. Just stop.
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but they must winz the internetz!!!
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Wow, looks like i do gots me a apperitence in the world after all.
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Oh, There'd be more victory dancing, These post you gave me have nothing related to the topic your disccussing about..Really Gamers, Really, Im not angry...Im in my 1000$ chair laughing...Gamers...Your nothing but scum...And i dont need proff just to show you how right i will be...People like me MAKE MORE MONEY THEN YOU...IM BETTER THAN YOU...AND I ALWAYS WILL BE,AND JACK THOMPSON WILL ALWAYS BE RIGHT TOO...HE IS NOT HYPOCRITE LIKE YOU GAMERS ARE.
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Ladies and gentlemen this is an example of trolling.
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And I'm laughing at you from my $100 chair...because you paid $900 more than necessary to get a chair to sit on...
And is there some study that says gamers make less money than non-gamers...
And Jack is a hypocrite...his son owns a Xbox 360 and a PSP...if you don't understand what I'm saying (and I believe you don't) Jack's son is a "gamer"
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Yeah, you do need proof, moron.
Like a "$1,000 chair" is supposed to impress me?
Oh, and Thompson is a hypocrite. A true red, white, and blue American would not endorse the terrorists that our troops are fighting, yet Thompson did just that.
A real American wouldn't be endorsing or "writing" legislation that takes away rights from Americans.
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Sides if he had followers, he'll tell them to go fuck themselves... we all know with what he said about that Christian woman over Sims 2.
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Here we go again...looks like im going to have to copy and paste this whole message again to get drug using idiots like you to understand...
Really Back up your claims using REAL INTELLECTUAL claims, not some lame youtube video of two fat women kissing, it seems you gamers are lacking in thought...And i will be always right, This studies are wrong and show that are children are prone to be killers due to the high influnce of video games like GTA and super mario,And not to mention most of the shooters who claimed not to own video games sold thier games right before they committed their foul acts to bury their evdience, Not to mention the japanese are a shameful group of rascist determined to poison the minds of are american youth through video games and their cheap shitty cartoons called "anime" .
Jack thompson follower,
Jack Thompson doesn't have "followers",only accomplices in lying
Troll.
It takes real "intelligence" to call the Japanese "racists", when they're not.
And Japanese anime is infinity times better and smarter than the American crap that's been produced for the last twenty years.
Show proof of your claims, oh, wait, you can't because there is no proof that "violent" video games or any video game cause harm. After all, video games are protected by the First Amendment, and like I’ve been posting, if you’re going to infringe on a Constitutional right like freedom of speech based on the claim that the speech in question is “dangerous”, then you better damn well show absolute proof of that. It’s NEVER been done.
If there is a danger so clear and so threatening to the American people that causes these self-righteous politicians to step on the First Amendment, wouldn’t any rational thinking person have to believe that the danger would have to be so obvious and clear that there would be no argument against it? Especially since you’re directly contradicting a Constitutional amendment.
We, the American people, have not been given any valid reason to believe that this abridging of our freedom of speech is necessary. There just simply isn’t any evidence at all of any danger from “violent” video games. This “protection” from “violent” video games isn’t needed or wanted for that matter, but please feel free to use everyone’s tax dollars for protection from things like a 10-foot storm surge from a Category 3 or greater hurricane or the fuselage of a 747 airplane entering the workplace or the home.
Whether you're really a "follower" of the Metropolition Moron of Miami or JT himself, Practice what he(or you, JT) preaches: Grow up and get a life.
To the Brainless Thompson Follower
On the chance that this is actually a different person and not Jack trying (and failing again) to hide behind another soon-to-be-banned ID, let me ask you: WHY are you supporting a massacre-chasing, snuff-loving cretin who was found guilty of nearly 30 charges of fraud, deceit, lying to the court, intimidation... well, being himself? That's the total opposite of right and decent no matter how much you delude yourself into thinking otherwise.
Is using a campus shooting as an excuse to promote a crappy book right and decent? NO IT ISN'T.
Is dancing on the graves of better people while threatening to extort their grieving families right and decent? NO IT ISN'T.
Is condoning the actions of child abusers while condemning some game developers who had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with said child abuse right and decent? NO IT ISN'T.
Is flooding dozens of people's inboxes with typo-riddled death threats and frivolous lawsuits right and decent? NO IT ISN'T.
Sheesh, you so-called moral guardians are all the same - too damn stupid to be allowed outside Guantanamo Bay.
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There's no such thing as a JT follower because this IS JT.
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Put your money where your mouth is and show proof that children are prone to be killers due to video games...
I'm waiting...
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So I was not surprised by their stance on Videogame Violence.
However there were some good points, but let down allot when they used the Violence factor in games.
I think it is safe to say that the people in this stydy who were writing this report did not even play a single videogame or even let themselves play a violent game.
Like how could you tell that a person was being hostel?
I think this report is 2 steps forward but one step back for videogamers.
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Jack, where do you get this crazy notion that video games are what make up the whole of a "gamer's" life? No where, that's where. You don't know any of us, least of all anything about our personal lives. Many people watch TV or go to the movies, and yet they do things outside of that and "have a life". Video game players are no different. Now stop being an asshole and if you can't at least do that then shut up.
EDIT: Also, I expect to not get a reply from Jackie boy on this subject. Whenever someone says something logical, that makes sense, he seems to realize that his unique brand of crazy won't get him anywhere. Well, sometimes he realizes that.
Oh and that's most likely the real JT guys, as I seriously doubt he has anything resembling "followers".
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Wow, Then that must be some lion..Check your reflexes kid,More like reflexes of a dead cat...Video games are steriods for the raw mind of youth who has nothing to do than masturbate to britney spears haircutting than getting a more decent life, You gamers are shameful.
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I really do hope you are a Jack Thompson supporter and not some random internet troll. I would get such glee from battering a Thompson groupie's arguments to shreds. And though you are likely a troll I will humor you nonetheless.
"Check your reflexes kid,More like reflexes of a dead cat"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEUQAIh1Ar8
Now what were you saying about gamers having the reflexes of a dead cat? Your move.
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Really Back up your claims using REAL INTELLECTUAL claims, not some lame youtube video of two fat women kissing, it seems you gamers are lacking in thought...And i will be always right, This studies are wrong and show that are children are prone to be killers due to the high influnce of video games like GTA and super mario,And not to mention most of the shooters who claimed not to own video games sold thier games right before they committed their foul acts to bury their evdience, Not to mention the japanese are a shameful group of rascist determined to poison the minds of are american youth through video games and their cheap shitty cartoons called "anime" .
Jack thompson follower,
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I see like your leader that when faced with something that blows your factless argument out of the water rather than try to reply with anything relating to sense or logic, you resort to crazy ranting. The video had neither women, obesity, or kissing. '
Such an amusing little troll you are.
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Before I start ranting at you, I would first ask of you to provide "REAL INTELLECTUAL claims" which would show that gamers are lacking in reflexes or mental capability.. "And i will be always right" is hardly compelling proof of your stance nor does it substantiate your claims...
At the risk of sounding snooty, I would have to say that English isn't my native language, and yet oddly enough, as a gamer, I speak better English than you would..
Next, your silly racist rant about "the japanese are a shameful group of racist" hardly makes any sense when you consider that the first Japanese Animations were inspired by *gasp* Walt Disney! As for "cheap shitty cartoons", on average, Japanese animation series tend to have higher or equal production values/costs compared to similar western cartoon series. Of course if you were to point out that higher quality productions like the various cartoon movies the west has released, I would at the same time point you to say, Production IG's Ghost in the Shell which shows that Japanese Animation can be of a similar or higher quality compared to Western Cartoons..
Lastly, if you happen to really be a sad, unfortunate follower of Jack Thompson? Please, find another master, young padawan. For the one you follow hunts as well as a 2 legged, toothless chihuahua... If you happen to be the meister of fail himself? Please Jack, follow your own teachings and grow up and get a life.. Please, if only for the sake of your ill wife and young son.