Author: Gamers Part of "Dumbest Generation"

August 20, 2008 -

A controversial new book fingers video games, television, and digital communications as culprits in the author's indictment of modern youth culture.

The book is The Dumbest Generation: How the Digital Age Stupefies Young Americans and Jeopardizes Our Future (Or, Don't Trust Anyone Under 30) by Emory University professor Mark Bauerlein. Canada.com has a lengthy interview with the author:

Something insidious is happening inside their heads. Young Americans today are no more learned or skilful than their predecessors, no more knowledgeable, fluent, up-to-date, or inquisitive, except in the materials of youth culture.

What then, Canada.com asks, does Bauerlein make of the widespread involvement of young people in the Barack Obama campaign?

...if it turns out that we have 75 per cent of young people voting in this election, then I will be happy to say that my comments about civic apathy were wrong. But if inspiration proves to be their only motive and their participation falls in later elections when an Obama is absent, then my initial suspicion will be correct. We need a diligent citizenry, and not merely a momentarily inspired one.

The book's description on Amazon says, in part:

The Internet, e-mail, blogs, and interactive and hyper-realistic video games promised to yield a generation of sharper, more aware, and intellectually sophisticated children... we assumed that teens would use their knowledge and understanding of technology to set themselves apart as the vanguards of this new digital era.

That was the promise. But the enlightenment didn’t happen. The technology that was supposed to make young adults more astute, diversify their tastes, and improve their verbal skills has had the opposite effect. According to recent reports, most young people in the United States do not read literature, visit museums, or vote. They cannot explain basic scientific methods, recount basic American history, name their local political representatives, or locate Iraq or Israel on a map...
 


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Re: Author: Gamers Part of "Dumbest Generation"

To be honest, most young people don't. The author of this book didn't until he took an interest, and that was purely for the purpose of being able to say that other people didn't.

It's a fact that most people don't take any interest in their familial history until later in their lives, that's hardly an excuse for calling young people stupid, they are just more interested in the future, whereas, as you get older, you tend to fixate on the past.

 

 

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See, this is what happens when you realise that you are going to die one day, all of a sudden, the world is getting 'progressively worse' as you get progressively older.

That's not psychology of the group, it's simple fear change and of 'no longer being.'

Re: Author: Gamers Part of "Dumbest Generation"

Bleeehhhh....Get Orf My Lawn!!

Re: Author: Gamers Part of "Dumbest Generation"

Who's up for a nice Zerg Rush on the Amazon page? We'll show him... uhh... what's that word again? Dumb! Yeah! Wait, what are we doing again?

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1980's-2000's: "Those damn kids and their videogames and internet and cellphones and facebook! Why can't they be as productive as us, who brought about equal rights and sexual liberation ? Mark my words, this generation is gonna drive this country into the ground!"

1950's-1970's: "Those damn kids and their rock and roll and comic books and bell bottoms and pot smoking! Why can't they be as productive as us, who whethered through the Great Depression and then fought bravely in World War II? Mark my words, this generation is gonna drive this country into the ground!"

1920's-1940's: "Those damn kids and their jazz music and zoot suits and fast cars and swing dancing! Why can't they be as productive as us, who helped to bring about economic prosperity and fought bravely in the Great War? Mark my words, this generation is gonna drive this country into the ground!"

etc. etc.

Re: Author: Gamers Part of "Dumbest Generation"

Does anyone else here feel heavily Insulted by this retard? I have a full time job, 150 I.Q., I read often, follow news and politics, and play games all the time. Am I just a fluke or is this guy just a dumbass? Given all my friends are the same I'd say he's a dumbass.

 

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Re: Author: Gamers Part of "Dumbest Generation"

I wouldn't be insulted. It's a shame he singles out a generation or any group of people. We as a species can be frightfully stupid...in any generation.

Still, it always seems as people get older, they put on their rose-colored rearview mirrors and think about how awesome it was back in the day:

90's: Worldwide sectarian violence rising. African AIDS crisis runs rampant. Islamic Fundmantalist terrorist groups target U.S. targets more frequently. Uptick in the growth of local "militia" groups. Timothy McVeigh blows up a federal building in Oklahoma City.

80's: Rift between rich and poor grows. Financial industry run like the wild, wild West. Crack Cocaine emerges as an urban catastrophe. The age of AIDS.

70's: Urban decay. OPEC embargo. Iran hostage crisis. Vietnam. Watergate. Polyester suits.

60's: Vietnam. Race Riots. JFK, RFK, MLK Jr all assassinated.

Before the 60's, more wars, Jim Crow laws, McCarthyism, women couldn't vote, labor rights non-existent, etc.

I'm sure glad that kids would read Nathaniel Hawthorne and Edna St. Vincent Millay and could recite the Greek alphabet. So much better than today. Oh those Golden Years.

Re: Author: Gamers Part of "Dumbest Generation"

You forgot the boy bands, pop music, and bad fashion in the 90s. ;)

Re: Author: Gamers Part of "Dumbest Generation"

"Polyester suits."

Dear sweet Jebus, not that!  The horror!

~~All Knowledge is Worth Having~~

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Re: Author: Gamers Part of "Dumbest Generation"

The US re-elected Bush, so I'm not convinced it's just people under 30.

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Maybe if they would let kids read something better than Romeo and Juliet in school they might like it.  I read for fun, but the drivel they make us read in High school is crappy and mostly geared towards girls.  Old man and the Sea is incredibly boring and to me its a book version of a tech demo.  I prefer to read my legal thrillers(John Grisham), science fiction(Isaac Asimov's foundation series)  and fantasy.  However books in school are much older and are more boring.  YOu want to get kids to read then give something good to read.  Giving them Romeo and Juliet or some crappy book like Funny in Farsi is just gonna bore them.  Thanks god I read fast as I don't like wasting time on boring books. 

Re: Author: Gamers Part of "Dumbest Generation"

That's one of the problems that the older generation has in dealing with the younger generation. The younger generation is used to assimilating faster-paced information thanks to TV, advertising, and videogames.

It's also a problem with the older generation's dogmatic view. Old Man and the Sea is a classic, as well as Romeo and Juliet. But if you ask them why they are considered classics, they don't know. They can't answer with anything other than "Because they've always been classics". 

The themes of both Romeo and Juliet have been recreated in other, more modern books. Their themes are timeless, but their presentations are not. Still, parents expect that their children will be taught what they were taught.

Re: Author: Gamers Part of "Dumbest Generation"

Classic literature is what has stood the test of time and has a message worth conveying. Contemporary fiction can be entertaining, but it seldom has the depth that classic literature does. The problem is that most high schoolers (or adults for that matter) aren't going to be interested in trying to pick deep themes out of old, hard-to-read literature when they can be entertained by more contemporary books. That said, some contemporary books have great themes and should be considered for educational use. If schools would start people on these easier-to-read modern novels, they could more easily teach classics later.

Re: Author: Gamers Part of "Dumbest Generation"

 I have one thing to counter your arguement:

 

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Re: Author: Gamers Part of "Dumbest Generation"

Some classics can be great to read, but Romeo and Juliet?  I can understand some people who like those types of books but most kids don't give a crap about it.  Times have changed. 

Books like those are for Classic literature classes, not for English classes in grade school where they turn kids from reading.

If you want them to read something deep and meaningful get them to read the Foundation series by Isaac Asimov.

My own opinion is that Romeo and Juliet is just too melodramatic for me.

 

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Anyone ever think that public education is partly to blame?  I'm not exagerating when I say my High School education experience fell just short of completely worthless.  I'm not saying that I am not intelligent but I didn't learn anything in High School except how to deal with older individuals that are completely full of themselves.

Blaming technological advances for poor education in America is kind of like blaming technology for America's poor foreign relations.  Both hold absolutely no merit.

I'd love to discuss why this book is worthless but everyone above pretty much took care of that.

"There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a longer shelf life." - Frank Zappa

Re: Author: Gamers Part of "Dumbest Generation"

Of course the education system is at least partially (probably mostly) to blame. One could probably also blame the failure of many parents to take an interest in their children's education. The problem is that these causes put the blame squarely on Bauerlein's generation. He can't feel self-righteous and superior if the failings of this generation are his generation's fault.

Re: Author: Gamers Part of "Dumbest Generation"

Sounds like someone's just unhappy that they can't figure out how to set their VCR

Seriously though, the entire premise of his book is nonsense. You can't paint any group of people singled out by age, race, culture, or any other identifying characteristic with the same brush. I'm 23, an avid gamer, a college graduate, and I put myself through college and currently work full-time as a software engineer. I'm now getting ready to back to graduate school in order to further my education.

No work ethic? Try telling me that when I was staying up at night until 3am trying to get a project working or studying for exams. Try telling me that when I work extra hours in order to get a project finished on time. Not civic-minded? That may have been true in the past, but seeing the path this country currently seems to be on is rapidly changing that. I find myself taking much more of an interest in political issues, and realizing that unless I take action, many of the issues that I care about, including net neutrality and video game legislation will be voted upon by politicians ignorant about the impact of the very issues they are voting upon.

Before stating that everyone under 30 is part of the "dumbest generation" maybe the author should have done a bit more research instead of jumping to conclusions. Talking to your neighbor's son who happens to be unemployed, under 30 and who plays video games all day isn't exactly proper research.

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Clearly, stupidity is universal.  Thanks for making older folks look paranoid and idiotic, Professor.  Maybe you should re-evaluate your statements about voting - I have a feeling NO voting group could get anywhere near the 75% benchmark that you talk about during this election (or for that matter, any election).

Re: Author: Gamers Part of "Dumbest Generation"

Yeah, because so many people over thirty could tell you about the scientific method or basic American history... America's youth aren't ignorant; America in general is ignorant. The problem's been going on for a lot longer the 20-30 years. Did teenagers in his generation read classical literature and go to museums? I doubt many did. In fact, I doubt classical literature and museums have ever had a huge following amongst teenage crowds.

I'm an avid gamer, and I can "explain basic scientific methods, recount basic American history, name their local political representatives, or locate Iraq or Israel on a map." Hell, I got a 35 on the ACT. I bet Mr. Bauerlein didn't do that, and he never played those evil vidja gamez.

For an English prof, Bauerlein seems pretty ignorant. You're supposed to read and pick up on the patterns of reality in the literature. If he had any intelligence, he'd realize that the older generation always thinks the younger generation has failed. The bad gets worse and the good gets better as time goes on, so as ignorance becomes more pronounced and disgusting, intelligence will also reach new heights. But sensationalism sells books better than realism, so why write about facts?

Re: Author: Gamers Part of "Dumbest Generation"

Sorry for the double-post, but I found an excellent Amazon review of the book that pretty much destroys the entire book.

http://www.amazon.com/review/R38YLZINH5YU0L/ref=cm_cr_rdp_perm

Re: Author: Gamers Part of "Dumbest Generation"

Isn't it the case that academic skill is on the up, but "common knowledge" is going down? School results are always getting better, even if you factor in the reported drag factor of the exams being dumbed down. How many GP readers in their 20s can do basic calculus, have a rough idea of politics and how things work, and can get by on holiday with a grasp of a foreign language? How many of your parents can?

People under 30 seem to have a broader range of knowledge than those over 30. Most people I know under 30 are kind of like Wikipedia: a decent collection of rough and probably inaccurate information about a variety of topics.

Another view is that banality is more prevalent these days. There are huge chunks of intertubes devoted to 14-year-olds chatting about mindless drivel and abusing the English language as they do. Man, kids are stupid these days. Twenty years ago, 14-year-olds didn't have anywhere to argue over musical tastes and only ever wrote anything down at school.

Re: Author: Gamers Part of "Dumbest Generation"

Hey, we're not the generation who got this country into this mess. That's all I'm gonna say.

 

-"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill

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Re: Author: Gamers Part of "Dumbest Generation"

And let's not even get him started on iPods.

Seriously, iPods make older-generation talking heads explode with rage, and I honestly don't know why.

Re: Author: Gamers Part of "Dumbest Generation"

 Because they can't help but think what life would have been like if they could have taken their Elvis and Beatles records with them. 

Re: Author: Gamers Part of "Dumbest Generation"

I don't like the title. I'm not talking about the book's title, but about this article's title. Too sensationalistic, and not that close to the truth.

If you take the time to read the author's interview thoroughly, you'll realize that video games are mentioned only once or twice, and are never singled out. The point is not that young people spend too much time on screen. The point is that (according to the author) they ONLY do that and don't care about the rest. We may agree or not, but it deserves a serious discussion, rather than fanboyish knee-jerk reactions.

The ultimate irony is that this guy reproaches to current generation not to read enough, and yet some people here (though not the majority, fortunately), who have neither read the book nor the author's interview, are just trashing this book only because of its cover.

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The ultimate irony is that this guy reproaches to current generation not to read enough, and yet some people here (though not the majority, fortunately), who have neither read the book nor the author's interview, are just trashing this book only because of its cover.

We're not trashing the book because of it's cover, we're trashing it because it's the same older generation ragging on the younger generation that's been going on since time immemorial.

In fact I'm not sure why you're posting saying that we should stop kneejerking because he isn't single out games. That's because virtually all the posts are responding to his general point that we're ignorant, and either: countering that claim, pointing out that this is the exact same fear/scorn of the younger generations seen in generations past, or pointing out that the problems he raises are due to faults of the education system, not in the culture and media of the younger generation.

-Gray17

-Gray17

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Oh, and kudos to the people here (mogbert, Paul T Farinelli, Mike, Geoff, Neeneko, etc...) who engaged a civil discussion, whether they agree or not with the author.

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This seems to be the exact opposite of the study that shows that kids are using scientific method to solve videogame problems in videogames like WoW. If you think about it, MMORPGs are like different worlds with different physics and rules. As players, we often have to use the scientific method to try and break down our experience to discover these rules. We then submit them to peer review on forums, and if they are correct, we can gain some measure of respect from our peer group.

This reminds me of a thread on GameFAQs for Dragon Quest VIII. They were breaking down the math of the game to determine the strongest weapon. Some hit once or twice, other hit weaker but for two or four times. Then there was the effect of a monsters defense on the numbers. It took a lot of math, but in the end we determined that a sword you get only a querter of the way into the game was the second strongest weapon in the entire game even though other weapons had bigger numbers (and the strongest weapon was only a tiny bit stronger and determined not to be worth it). The scientific method, high level math (minimum Algebra II with some people dropping into Calculus), social interaction and critical writing skills... all about a video game.

Personally, I'm over 30 (depressing thing to contemplete for me, as I still consider myself part of the videogame generation (spent last night on Age of Conan and Marvel Ultimate Aliance), but I think that what you have is the standard "get off my lawn" and "kids these days don't know anything" rants that you can get anywhere. Actually, except for some Hamlet, I've found Shakesphere rather dry. Perhaps people aren't going to museums because there is only so much that you can get from looking at casts of old bones. You can get more from wikipedia in a few minutes then walking around a natural history museum. Yes dinos were big, yes they ate different things... but they are gone now. Deal.

Re: Author: Gamers Part of "Dumbest Generation"

"Actually, except for some Hamlet, I've found Shakesphere rather dry."

Shakespeare is, in some of his plays (the comedies mostly... duh), hilarious and sometimes really, really dirty. Though admittedly I haven't read Shakespeare nearly as much as I have watched the plays in theaters and in movies.

Re: Author: Gamers Part of "Dumbest Generation"

Shakespeare's great!  A lot of the puns and social commentary does not age well.  However, I loved it back in school, along with Chaucer, as the "moral watchdog" assholes would whine and bitch about sex and violence in modern media, and then the required reading in school was chock-full of everything they bitched about.  "Romeo and Juliet" opens with a rape joke and includes teenage sex and murder, "Titus Andronicus" includes rape and cannabalism, the comedies were filled with innuendo of varying subtlety, and if you ever read through "Canterbury Tales" you found plenty of stories full of stuff that would make the censor shmucks faint (Miller, Reeve, etc).  Just remember, sex and violence in media is only wrong if it's not old, because you can never criticize anything old.

Re: Author: Gamers Part of "Dumbest Generation"

Damnit, that's "puns and social commentary DO not age well."  Damn lack of edit features...

Re: Author: Gamers Part of "Dumbest Generation"

Personally I prefered Cyrano DeBergerac to most of Shakespeare's writing. "Quick the enemy is coming! Aim your cannon!"

 

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Re: Author: Gamers Part of "Dumbest Generation"

Another person-of-an-older-generation-complaining-about-a-younger-generation book, eh? How incredibly novel!

Re: Author: Gamers Part of "Dumbest Generation"

Sturgeon's law people, most adults can't find Iraq on a map, do not read literature, visit museums, vote, cannot explain basic scientific methods, or recount basic American history.

 

Not that that is a good thing.

 

 

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Get off my lawn you darn kids!!! 

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So I can find both of those countrys on a map, support McCain (or rather, am against a token canidate with no experinece who is willing to throw out our 2nd amendment and wants to tax the rich further, dispite the excessive taxing being proven to be hurting our econemy...)

 

What does that make me?

Re: Author: Gamers Part of "Dumbest Generation"

>> dispite the excessive taxing being proven to be hurting our econemy...
>> What does that make me?

a bad speller? dictionary.com is free, y'know and would help disprove this old guy's theory...

besides that though, your Obama facts seem a bit off - Obama wants to tax the rich (unlike Bush and McCain), not the middle class or the poor. do you make more that $200k per year? then you're safe. regardless, lowering taxes a lot for the rich while only slightly lowering taxes for everyone else hasn't worked out so well either, right?

and what's this "token candidate" (read: canidate) thing? you're not suggesting some sort of Affirmative Action kind of thing here are you? seriously?

i think your post is a little scarier than this guy's book, actually.

Re: Author: Gamers Part of "Dumbest Generation"

You act as though those making over $200k a year aren't taxed under the current tax law.  In fact, that bracket is still taxed to a higher degree than other brackets, even under the so-called "Tax Breaks for the Rich" Bush-era.

So maybe you both should do a little reasearch.  The amount of patently false information spouted as plain fact by both sides of this election is kind of frightening. 

~~All Knowledge is Worth Having~~

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Re: Author: Gamers Part of "Dumbest Generation"

What does that make me?

A conservative?

-Gray17

-Gray17

Re: Author: Gamers Part of "Dumbest Generation"

No one should be up in arms over this in my opinion. For starters, the author doesn't single out video games, but blames all popular media/culture today. Also, let's be real for a second: I love my videogames, TV, and movies, but that doesn't mean it's good for your mental health to partake in those things 24/7. And there are children who do just that, whether because of poor parenting or whatever the case may be. All this author is doing is pointing out that the number of American children who do spend all day in front of the boob tube is discouraging, and that the low average intelligence of some children today is due in part to that trend.

Also, no one should go and spam Amazon.com with bad reviews about this guys book. I think (read: hope) that's beneath most of us here.

Re: Author: Gamers Part of "Dumbest Generation"

yeah he says "trust no one under 30", not "trust *some* under 30"

nope, he's a sweeping generalization jerk-off and deserves any amazon flame-reviews he gets - he's putting his dumb ideas out there for all of us to point and laugh at so anyone has the right to offer their smart or dumb opinion out there too. flame-on!

Re: Author: Gamers Part of "Dumbest Generation"

We're up in arms (to the little extent we are) because of the broad generalization of calling us all stupid, and blaming all popular media/culture today. That sort of thing is just plain insulting on any level. It's not a matter of "he's insulted us for playing games!"; it's a matter of "He's insulted our entire existence, based on absolutely nothing more than his preconceptions, and fears."

-Gray17

-Gray17

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Another sloppily conceived book by a by an outrageously out of touch baby boomer.  Stupidity, shockingly, enough, is not limited to one generation.  I remember a segment on Jay Leno when he would go onto the street and ask ADULTS a lot of basic history or math questions, and they couldn't get them right.  There are people OVER 30 in this country who don't know which country gave us the Statue of Liberty or what the National Anthem is based of off.  There are plenty of adults who don't even know how to use the Internet - doesn't that qualify as ignorance or stupidity?  The Internet is an essential part of society and people like this STILL haven't realized that.

According to recent reports, most young people in the United States do not read literature, visit museums, or vote. They cannot explain basic scientific methods, recount basic American history, name their local political representatives, or locate Iraq or Israel on a map..."

If I'm part of the dumb generation, why am I reminding YOU to cite your sources rather than allude to vague "reports", buddy?

Michael Carusi

Capitol Gaming

capitolgaming.blogspot.com

Re: Author: Gamers Part of "Dumbest Generation"

Daily Show did something similar.  They asked a bunch of adults on the street what they thought Sam Adam's greatest contribution to America was.

They all answered "the beer". 

Granted it was probably edited to be funnier (I assume Jay Leno did the same thing) but that shows that (A) intelligence can't necessarily be based on generation/age and (B) the results of being bombarded by advertisements almost 24/7.

Re: Author: Gamers Part of "Dumbest Generation"

Similar stuff crops up in various places. I seem to recall a reality show entitled "Are you smarter than a 5th grader?" not all that long ago than ran off the same premise of adults not knowing various trivia.

-Gray17

-Gray17

Re: Author: Gamers Part of "Dumbest Generation"

I'd go after rap music before video games.

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The fact we are posting here and carrying on intelligent debates renders void this moron's entire argument.

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I'm offended! I play video games, but I'm smart. This is the book for Jack Thompson and others who hate video games. Screw it!

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I think the digitalized age makes kids more up to date on world affairs and other information considering the fact you can get all kinds of information  at any time you want from just surfing the internet.

 
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