At Leipzig Con, Artist's Mashup of 9/11 and Space Invaders Creates Controversy

August 22, 2008 -

ECA sister-site GameCulture reports on the controversy sparked by a French artist's exhibit at this week's Leipzig game conference.

In celebration of the 30th anniversary of Space Invaders, the Games Convention included "Invaders!"—a work by French-American artist Douglas Edric Stanley. The original installation consisted of a Space Invaders machine set amidst a large interactive space. In that installation, the game screen was overlaid on an 8-bit backdrop depicting the two towers of the World Trade Center, which fell in September 2001 after being struck by a pair of hijacked jetliners...

 

The juxtaposition of the terrorist attack and a classic arcade game, coupled with the full-body gestural control scheme, seems as though it could have been an involving, if challenging, experience. Like Danny Ledonne's Super Columbine Massacre RPG!, "Invaders!" pushes back at our tendency to lock horrific events into an untouchable cultural trophy cabinet, forever off limits and sacrosanct...

As GameCulture's Aaron Ruby notes, American gamers initially reacted badly to Stanley's exhibit. After some reflection, however, there seemed to be more acceptance that his point was to make a commentary about America's current war strategy, rather than trivializing the 9/11 attacks.

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Re: At Leipzig Con, Artist's Mashup of 9/11 and Space Invaders

Thanks good job;

Btw, I think Atari and Midway will drop out too, but mostly travesti because  these guys have done nothing travesti or little and need to start saving costs. and dizi izle

YES.

Now I don't have to get off my ass for the important shit anymore!

Whats next, ordering pizza from Xbox live?

Wait... I think that sounds like a good idea.

But I think voting should MAKE you get off your ass, and see outside or a second while you go vote. I mean, your picking the president of the United States of America for God's Sake... least you can do is drive down there and punch out a card.

Re: At Leipzig Con, Artist's Mashup of 9/11 and Space Invaders

Nintendo is indeed selling SOME of these on the Virtual Console but not even close to all of them. While i agree in part to his piracy he was filling a market that Nintendo failed to recognize. Maybe someone doesnt want to buy a Wii. maybe they just want a console with 50 - 100 NES games on them?? maybe just maybe?

but no Nintendo wants everyone araba kiralama to buy the Wii. thats their excuse but thats not what copyright is supposed to protect. i am real sure that the makers of 10 yard fight were losing sleep because they were missing out on their $0.00025 worth because they didnt get royalties from this player. *smirk*

my question is, should Super Mario Bros. be banned from public domain forever? isnt 23 years enough time for Nintendo to have made their profits?

If you have followed the Steamboat Willie case regarding Mickey Mouse you can rest in your bed well at night knowing that the MOUSE will still be under copyright law, away from public domain after your great grandchildren are in nursing homes. That is beyond ridiculous dont you think??

Gallagher can araç kiralama say all he wants, but I strongly rent a car believe it's due to his crappy leadership and E3 being a joke. ESA's Board of Directors need to find a way to get out rent a car of this horrid contract with this Bush cronie before there's no one left on the Board.

Btw, I think Atari and Midway will drop out too, but mostly travesti because  these guys have done nothing ttnet vitamin or little and need to start saving costs.

YES.

Now I don't have to get off my ass for the important shit anymore!

Whats next, ordering pizza from Xbox live?

Wait... I think that sounds like a good idea.

But I think voting should MAKE you get off your ass, and see outside or a second while you go vote. I mean, your picking the president of the United States of America for God's Sake... least you can do is drive down there and punch out a card.

Re: At Leipzig Con, Artist's Mashup of 9/11 and Space Invaders

The only thing I would like to add is this:

The definition of what art is has become so broad as to be almost meaningless.

Someones unmade bed or an elephants turd glued to a board is art, as long as the "artist" adds somekind of dumb motivation to it on a plaque next to it.

 

My opinion:

If the artist cannot communicate his or her message to the public without needing further explanation the artwork is a failure, as it is in this case.

I work in advertising and trust me on this: confusion and outrage do not work if you want to get (any) message across.

In the case of confusion the public just ignores what you are trying to put across, and outrage usually obliterates the original messagwe anyway.

 

Personally I think the "It's art" card is played far to often these days.

Re: At Leipzig Con, Artist's Mashup of 9/11 and Space Invaders

That's because you're in advertising. :p (Don't worry, I'm a graphic design student.)

I do understand your frustration about what is considered art nowadays. I still don't understand what a dilapidated chair means exactly.

But, still, it's also all too easy to say something isn't art. One could look at a Pollock or some of Warhol's works and say it isn't art either. Although, it also seems the art world is a very esoteric thing to understand.

I think the problem with the exhibit, though, is that most people who have been outraged weren't there to see it personally in order to understand the piece. Especially with how art is evolving through the use of electronic media, within the last ten, fifteen, years things are kind of harder to get with a few still frames and non-participation with the piece.

I really don't have an opinion on the piece itself though, because I didn't have a chance to experience it either. Likewise for the dilapidated chair.

I am reminded, though, of a response to a letter to the editor in the local paper I was reading while I was living in the Tri-Cities up in Washington. There was some controversy over how a school didn't allow it's drama department perform The Breakfast Club. Someone mentioned art was meant to inspire and encourage. The person, who wrote the response, said art is supposed to provoke thought.

I'll end with that, since the current piece in particular seems to have provoked thought. Whether it be anger or understanding.

Re: At Leipzig Con, Artist's Mashup of 9/11 and Space Invaders

Anyone have a time for when Jack comes on here threatening to sue these people for using such a tragedy for profit? I'm looking forward to more fail on his part and major lulz on ours.

(NOTE: I used "tragedy" without quotations because 09/11/2001 was indeed a tragedy. I would have used "tragedy" with quotes because Jack is overly dramatic as usual. Personally, Jack should spend some time among the kids over in the Middle East and see how long he lasts before they do something bad to him. My money's on three days. Kudos if you get my meaning. )

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Re: At Leipzig Con, Artist's Mashup of 9/11 and Space Invaders

It's post-modernism!

 

WACKITY-SHMACKITY-DOO

 

The fact that anyone could comlain about violence in games, or intentionally upsetting art-games while we send our children to go and die and murder foreigners, all so that war profiteers can profit, well it's just ignorant.

 

But then we are an ignorant nation, like the romans, complacent in our luxury, we choose to ignore our inhumanity towards our fellow men. Or as Monty Python once put it:

 

"What can I say? I mean, how can I encapsulate in mere words my scorn for any military solution? The fultility of modern warfare? And the hypocrisy by which contemporary government applies one standard to violence within the community and another to violence perpetrated by one community upon another?"

Re: At Leipzig Con, Artist's Mashup of 9/11 and Space Invaders

As a piece of art, I am in full support of this piece.

 

Also it is not like they are trying to maket this game for $$$$

 

It is a simple fact that Art of what ever form evokes powerful emotions in some way.

 

Weather negative or positive, that is what Art does.

 

And it makes us think of ourselves, our life, our society and even our world at a moment in time.

Re: At Leipzig Con, Artist's Mashup of 9/11 and Space Invaders

Also you must remember that YOU as a player is trying to PROTECT the WTC, not destroy them.

 

Plus why go mad about something already destroyed, it is not like you or I could do anything about it?

 

I know many are kinda offended, and there are other ways to portray Space Invaders but in reality in the name of trying to provoke emotion, I guess the Franch American artist found something that really provoked allot of emotions.

Re: At Leipzig Con, Artist's Mashup of 9/11 and Space Invaders

Isn't the purpose of Art to invoke emotion? Yet anytime someone creates art that invokes any emotion but happiness suddenly we need to ban it.

The answer to this is very simple. You don't like it, don't view it.

Re: At Leipzig Con, Artist's Mashup of 9/11 and Space Invaders

The fact is art is supposed to create emotions, now these emotions are used to open a discussion forum, which is obviously happening here, wether you are for it or against it, you are commenting on it and reading what others think about it, therefore it enriches you as a person. Whatever you come up with in the end of this discussion will forever be modified by the influence of this piece of art.

By you merely posting your oposition to the piece, you are validating it as art. In the end this is real art, art that makes you think beyong high concepts, it makes you question beliefs and politican and cultural stances.

Re: At Leipzig Con, Artist's Mashup of 9/11 and Space Invaders

They should use Dead Rising for a Tlatelolco student massacre representation, back in 1968.

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Re: At Leipzig Con, Artist's Mashup of 9/11 and Space Invaders

I've never really "got" art, I guess. Modern art anyway. But have you ever wondered when art became something to bring up controversy while expressing yourself? Is it groundbreaking modern art if it doesn’t piss someone off?

 
I guess I just like what I think looks nice/cool.

 

Re: At Leipzig Con, Artist's Mashup of 9/11 and Space Invaders

Wonder what he'll do for a follow-up?  Kaboom! mixed with a subway train, maybe?

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Re: At Leipzig Con, Artist's Mashup of 9/11 and Space Invaders

I don't believe in "banning" any form of expression. That being said, I don't think I'd view such an installation myself. Not in any sense of objecting to what might be expressed, or being offended by the imagery, it's just that even after 8 years, I still have a tough time seeing images of what I witnessed first hand.

Let's not get too worked up over someone's attempt at art, however. It seems to be eliciting discussion at least.

Re: At Leipzig Con, Artist's Mashup of 9/11 and Space Invaders

I must be missing something, as I don't see what commentary they're trying to make.  All this seems to be is an input technology demostration.  If I hadn't been told that those were the towers in the background I would have assumed it to be Space Invaders with a generic skyscraper backdrop.  Hell, the people in the video don't even seem to notice.

Re: At Leipzig Con, Artist's Mashup of 9/11 and Space Invaders

The video was from an earlier installation. That was not footage from Leipzig. It's pulled from the artist's site. I, too, however, thought the users weren't quite getting it. The point of including it in the post was just to give an idea of how the system worked.

Re: At Leipzig Con, Artist's Mashup of 9/11 and Space Invaders

Atari is suing, claiming the Space Invaders is used without permission.

http://kotaku.com/5040545/taito-considering-legal-action-againt-911-inva...

 

Re: At Leipzig Con, Artist's Mashup of 9/11 and Space Invaders

Taito said that in fact the entire “Space Invaders: The Anniversary Show” exhibition by the Computer Game Museum Berlin was likewise planned and presented without their knowledge and authorization.

I don't really blame them or so much their reaction, with such an UN-official -politically movtivated- contriversial "exibit" exploting the Space Invaders 30th Anniversary kick Taito currently has going, they really do need to distence themselves from it.  Unfortunitly, suing or threatening is probably the only way for Taito to make it clear to the press they did not endorse it nor do they support it at all.

The reaction is fitting for just about any company, I don't think a company like Nintendo would be too happy if something like this was in a "Super Mario Anniversary Super Show!"

Re: At Leipzig Con, Artist's Mashup of 9/11 and Space Invaders

They are just trying to save face. They will never sue.

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Re: At Leipzig Con, Artist's Mashup of 9/11 and Space Invaders

In all I've seen commented about this around the net, I have yet to see anyone comment on the fact that, despite the disgust of seeing this, espically with the digital jumpers, it didn't stop any of our generation from watching every second of it happen live.

Re: At Leipzig Con, Artist's Mashup of 9/11 and Space Invaders

What's your point then? Should American citizens have not watched one of the worst attacks on the US in the last 50 years? Would it make this exhibit OK? I mean, really, what are you getting at exactly?

Re: At Leipzig Con, Artist's Mashup of 9/11 and Space Invaders

First off, don't limit it to citizens of the USA. I'm a Canuck and I spent a good part of the day following the coverage. I'm just saying there's some serious hypocracy here that people are condeming this when EVERY channel on TV spent the whole day staring at this, and every year (in about 3 weeks in fact) the press is going to dig up the bodies for a retrospect instead of letting them rest in peace. It's more a comment of the fact that no one has picked up on this in relation to this piece of art. Where is the value for humanity in saying, "Well, that happened. Better not try to make any sense of it."

Re: At Leipzig Con, Artist's Mashup of 9/11 and Space Invaders

Wow, looking at the comments on the artists website makes me regret we can't ban people from the internet for being idiots...

(I like how everyone reads the "French" part of "French-American" but forgets the second part :))

Re: At Leipzig Con, Artist's Mashup of 9/11 and Space Invaders

I simply don't see the point of including the WTC backdrop. It's almost like they wanted to piss some Americans off a little bit. I don't mind the backdrop, but it should have a POINT to it, otherwise it's kinda....idk, offensive or something?

Re: At Leipzig Con, Artist's Mashup of 9/11 and Space Invaders

"The tendency to lock horrific events into an untouchable cultural trophy cabinet, forever off limits and sacrosanct..."

I think that is the point.

 

 

Re: At Leipzig Con, Artist's Mashup of 9/11 and Space Invaders

Well yeah, but I don't agree with including sensitive imagery for the sake of including it. It should have a point!

Re: At Leipzig Con, Artist's Mashup of 9/11 and Space Invaders

The point is that no matter how well you do in stopping the invaders eventually they will overcome you and lose. This is saying that if we continue the current strategy of war, we could easily be overcome and lose more than just the WTC.

At least that is my take based off the various reports and the artist's site.

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Re: At Leipzig Con, Artist's Mashup of 9/11 and Space Invaders

Care to elaborate on that? Unless you can come up with a number less than zero...

Re: At Leipzig Con, Artist's Mashup of 9/11 and Space Invaders

What am I elaborating on. You really didn't specify. I was just giving my general impression of the message of the art peice. I was not commenting on the actual war strategy.

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Re: At Leipzig Con, Artist's Mashup of 9/11 and Space Invaders

What leads you to think that the artist or you to think that the current strategy is not working? that would be the question as you said "This is saying that if we continue the current strategy of war, we could easily be overcome and lose more than just the WTC." in short what is the reasoning for this claim

Re: At Leipzig Con, Artist's Mashup of 9/11 and Space Invaders

Personally, I would say that the strategy of fighting terrorism by making your citizens live in fear is doomed to failure. The strategy of fighting terrorism by stripping your citizens of their constitutional rights is doomed to failure. The strategy of fighting terroism by attacking countries with a falsified connection to terrorism is doomed to failure.

Did I leave anything out?

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Re: At Leipzig Con, Artist's Mashup of 9/11 and Space Invaders

 Living in fear? Hardly. And pray tell what so-called "constitutional rights" are being stripped? And falsified connections? Well I agree Iraq should not have been attacked first, Iran should have, Iraq had connections with al Qaeda. The 9-11 Commission report even stats that.

Re: At Leipzig Con, Artist's Mashup of 9/11 and Space Invaders

You are living in a fantasy world

War serves no purpose, has never served a purpose throughout our species history.

 

We just like killing, because we are apes.

Re: At Leipzig Con, Artist's Mashup of 9/11 and Space Invaders

To clarify, are you against nations defending themselves against aggressors, or the aggressors themselves?

Re: At Leipzig Con, Artist's Mashup of 9/11 and Space Invaders

And pray tell what so-called "constitutional rights" are being stripped?

Have you ever heard of a thing called the Patriot Act? That vile peice of trash. That has stripped our right to not be searched unless the government has a warrant. The government has used the terrorist attacks to deny us that right. The TSA has the authority to confiscate electronics for no reason other than you have them as you are crossing the border. The government has given themselves the authority to tap you communications for no reason other than you communicate with people who do not reside in the US. This is a large violation of my rights as a citizen of the US under the Fourth Ammendment.

There is also the freedom of speach. This may not have been a direct order of the government, but it is a result of of their policies. A person cannot speak out about terrorism and the war without being labeled a sympathizer. Just look at the article we are discussing under. Also the article about the Jihad game. Also your attacks on me.

 Living in fear?

Your kidding right? Do you not watch the news or read it? Everything that is reported on regarding the war in Iraq and the "War on Terror" is geared toward making us fear the "threat" of terroism enough to not think twice about the government stripping away our constitutional rights. If you are blind to that, then you must be living in fear.

And falsified connections?

You must not follow the news at all if you have no idea of what I am talking about. It has actually been all over the news recently. One of Bush's aids has come out with a book detailing the whole effort by the Bush administration from 9/11 to get America into war with Iraq. They made many false claims about Iraq and its connection to Al Qaeda.

I hope you can understand where I am going with this. I feel very strongly about my rights and the direction this country takes.

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Re: At Leipzig Con, Artist's Mashup of 9/11 and Space Invaders

The 9/11 commission report said Iraq had NO connections with al Qaeda period, so I doubt that you read the report.

Also do you want to know which constitutional rights have been stripped? How about the loss of having simple phone conversations without being wiretapped? How about anti-war demonstrators that were arrested for doing nothing more than holding a protest sign and then being abused by cops? How about Valerie Plame being outted because her husband, Ambassador Joe Wilson, criticized the administration?

Another right that was lost was the freedom of the press. The administration pressured CBS to fire Dan Rather for reporting on Bush's war record. The report turned out to be true and Rather sued CBS. Christiane Amanpour, CNN's chief international correspondent and the winner of the 2002 Edward R. Murrow Award, and her station were "intimidated by the administration and its foot soldiers at FOX News" into cheerleading for the Iraq War. The administration knew a free press would expose their lies about Iraq.

You also asked about living in fear? The Bush Administration used the foiled Fort Dix plot to stay in Iraq, even though the conspirators would be vastly outnumbered. How about the White House using a foiled plot to blow up trans-atlantic flights, even though the alleged perps could not get on board those flights, to scare the American People? The Bush Administration and thier cronies at Fox News spun those two plots among many others into a vain attempt to frighten the citizens of this nation.

Your comments are nothing short of pathetic, desperate, and Fox News-like. You calling our invaluable and cherished constitutional rights "so-called" is exactly like President Bush calling the Constitution of the United States "a piece of paper", which are both dispicable and anti-American. You should be ashamed of yourself.

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http://www.dhs.gov/xinfoshare/programs/Copy_of_press_release_0046.shtm

 

When was the last time the national threaty advisory was changed? What does High/elevated risk mean? If the risk is "high" shouldn't something have happened on our soil? What about the seemingly random no fly lists, that you can almost never get yourself removed from?

The government tell's us that the terrorists want to kill us, yet the terrorists don't seem to be doing a very good job. The terrorists elsewhere are usually aren't the stupidest people, who only focus on big 9/11 style attacks. Why are there not people being killed by terrorists rather frequently? It seems like if they were so intent on killing us that they would be killing 1 or 2 people every so often. Gangs don't have any issues doing that, and most gang bangers don't believe that martyring themselves will get them an awsome afterlife? Seems like it wouldn't be much an issue for them to walk on to a college, or into a mall and kill a few people?

Why are the attacks that the DHS/FBI/Everyone thwarted, the most moronicly planned attcks ever?

Why are they not hitting us at home, where it really hurts? I'm sorry but I don't buy any claims that our awsome DHS is stopping the ebil terrorists. I guess I don't see a justification for the "HigH" threat level. Therefore, I believe that someone or some group in the government want people to be afraid. They want people to feel threatend. They want people to think we need them watching us, knowing our every move.

Re: At Leipzig Con, Artist's Mashup of 9/11 and Space Invaders

The problem is, as much as what the US is doing to help, the US isn't adapting to the different warfare as quickly as we should. I've had friends and relatives over in Iraq, and in Afganistan, I ended up being discharged from the military for my screwed up back before 9/11. However, everyone I've talked to, regardless of rank, has had the sense that the US is not necessarily figting the war on terror in the most effective way. The US is primarily fighting conventionally, and the terrorists are fighting unconventionally. It is a shame, considering the US has a long and wonderful history of being rather unconventional in warfare, but now it seems we've gone backwards on that front. Sure, we're adapting, but for many people it seems far too slow.

Mind you, I'm not bashing the military, the servicemen & women are doing what they are ordered to do, and for a conventional battle strategy, it would be awesome. But, it is an unconventional war. We're not fighting another country, or another organized military. We are fighting insurgent forces that are small cell-based guerilla-like combatants, who have little to no value on life -- their own or others. Our primary opponents, the fundamentalist islamics also have the added bonus of seeing the US quite literally as Satan himself. This all compounds to make the whole strategy as potentially not as effective as we'd like. Nothing against our military, we just need to adapt quicker to the different kind of war we're fighting. Otherwise, this will keep getting dragged out long and longer, or worse, our opponents will do something else on US soil, which is the biggest fear I believe the US government has, even over the oil concerns...

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Re: At Leipzig Con, Artist's Mashup of 9/11 and Space Invaders

I'd imagine that people being overly sensitive was the point. Right now a lot of people get offended to varying degrees if you don't treat them as some sort of holy imagery.

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Re: At Leipzig Con, Artist's Mashup of 9/11 and Space Invaders

What's the big controversy?  It's not like they were shooting the World Trade Center...It's just Space Invaders against a WTC backdrop...It's no different than having the backdrop be a squirrel...or a fuzzy bunny....or Jack Thompson....

Sortableturnip's Law: As an online discussion of video game violence grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Jack Thompson approaches 1

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Re: At Leipzig Con, Artist's Mashup of 9/11 and Space Invaders

It isn't like you are destroying the towers is it? Your trying to stop them from being destroyed. As

The point is that no matter how well you do in stopping the invaders eventually they will overcome you and lose. This is saying that if we continue the current strategy of war, we could easily be overcome and lose more than just the WTC."

It would be different if the player was destroying the WTC. But I honestly don't see the problem with it?

Re: At Leipzig Con, Artist's Mashup of 9/11 and Space Invaders

It's not "just" a wallpaper backdrop.

The WTC "backdrop" is eventually destroyed (as in, towers are destroyed by the space invaders) piece by piece, and the image that I had seen previous to this squeeky-clean video seemed to show 'jumpers' leaping from the building.

How's that for controversy?

It's not like a squirrel at all.

Re: At Leipzig Con, Artist's Mashup of 9/11 and Space Invaders

At first I thought they were shooting the World Trade Centers. But when I saw they were being used as a backdrop I asked myself "What's so bad about this?"

 

Really, what is so bad about it?

Re: At Leipzig Con, Artist's Mashup of 9/11 and Space Invaders

Meh. It's not really offending.

The message makes sense... after reading it.

Re: At Leipzig Con, Artist's Mashup of 9/11 and Space Invaders

I don't understand it.  Why do people think banning stuff like this will help anything?

Re: At Leipzig Con, Artist's Mashup of 9/11 and Space Invaders

Who and what majority said anything about banning? The worst that I've heard is that the display was in very poor taste and doesn't really make much sense if you think about it... and I agree with that.

Re: At Leipzig Con, Artist's Mashup of 9/11 and Space Invaders

On the other hand, I don't see what they are expressing with this game.  Space Invaders with the Twin Towers?

 
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Technogeekprh99: Gamergate and Adobe deserve each other.10/22/2014 - 2:55am
Andrew EisenAdam McKay directed cartoon about income inequality. https://screen.yahoo.com/we-the-economy/inequality-1-unbelievable-sweet-alpacas-175411663.html10/21/2014 - 8:54pm
prh99Bit.ly Maintainance here is the original http://arstechnica.com/business/2014/10/after-gamergate-tweet-adobe-distances-itself-from-gawker-bullying/10/21/2014 - 8:39pm
 

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