Report: Obama VP Choice Biden is Anti-consumer on Tech Issues

August 26, 2008 -

CNet's Declan McCullough reports that Sen. Joe Biden (D-DE) has an anti-consumer track record when it comes to technology.

In the past the Democratic VP nominee-apparent has stood with the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) and the Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA) on copyright issues.

From the Cnet report:

[Biden] has spent most of his Senate career allied with the FBI and copyright holders... ranks toward the bottom of CNET's Technology Voters' Guide, [his] anti-privacy legislation was actually responsible for the creation of PGP [encryption]...

 

Biden became a staunch ally of Hollywood and the recording industry in their efforts to expand copyright law. He sponsored a bill in 2002 that would have make it a federal felony to trick certain types of devices into playing unauthorized music or executing unapproved computer programs...

 

A few months later, Biden signed a letter that urged the Justice Department "to prosecute individuals who intentionally allow mass copying from their computer over peer-to-peer networks." Critics of this approach said that the Motion Picture Association of America and the Recording Industry Association of America, and not taxpayers, should pay for their own lawsuits...

 

All of which meant that nobody in Washington was surprised when Biden was one of only four U.S. senators invited to a champagne reception in celebration of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act hosted by the MPAA's Jack Valenti, the RIAA, and the Business Software Alliance. (Photos are here.)

McCullough reports that Biden has "steadfastly refused" to answer Cnet's questions on his tech voting record.

GP: It's ironic that Biden has chosen to portray himself as an intellectual property rights champion. He has twice been outed for plagiarizing.

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Re: Report: Obama VP Choice Biden is Anti-consumer on Tech

You think Biden doesn't challenge Obama's views? Remember Biden's criticism a while back of Obama being inexperienced as so forth? Yeah.

-Gray17

Re: Report: Obama VP Choice Biden is Anti-consumer on Tech

Wait, seriously? He called Obama inexperienced, and that's "challenging his views"?

That isn't challenging an opinion. He was just leveraging a simple and legitimate point about Obama's ability to do the job he's running for. Unless Obama "views" himself on being experienced, which is ridiculous.

Not that it particularly matters. I don't think Biden is going to change/make up anybody's minds. Then again, I was McCain man before any of the nominations were finished, so I'm biased.

Re: Report: Obama VP Choice Biden is Anti-consumer on Tech

Well, to be more precise, he called him not ready for the job, criticized his lack of foreign policy experience and judgement, and so on and so forth. Basically a whole bunch of "I know better than him." criticism. You think someone like that is going to be a yes man? With all the commentary about Biden "strengthening the foreign policy of the ticket", personally it seems to me like he's more likely to argue with Obama because he's "experienced".

-Gray17

Re: Report: Obama VP Choice Biden is Anti-consumer on Tech

Could have been worse, I guess.  Obama could have gone with either Bayh or Sebelius, who both were on record for sponsoring anti-games legislation.  As far as I can tell, Biden never has.

Either way, I don't see Biden's becoming VP as being a big hurdle to overcome in overturning the DMCA.  Time, and technology, are not on their side on this.  Eventually they're going to realize that this stupid act is going to do a lot more harm than good.

The DMCA is here to stay

Until lobbying money is banned, the DMCA is permanent.  The majority of American's don't care about the DMCA.  Hollywood spends a great deal of money lobbying, and congress critters love their lobbying money.  I'm not 100% sure I will vote for Obama, but it's mostly because he granted the telco's immunity, more than his pick of Biden that bothers me.

That doesn't mean I will vote for McCain-as a registered Libertarian, I may vote along my own party lines for the presidental canddate, even if it means my vote is basically useless.  I already know, I won't vote for Feinstein and probably Boxer, since they voted for the DMCA back in 1998, now that I'm aware of this...

Re: The DMCA is here to stay

So wait, let me see if I've got this straight...

You hate legislation like the DMCA, that puts all the power in the hands of corporations and gives no regard to consumer protections...

...so you're a Libertarian?

Re: The DMCA is here to stay

So who is the Libertarian candidate anyways? Regardless of the effectiveness, voting third party makes for a far better protest vote than not voting at all.

-Gray17

Agreed...

http://www.lp.org/barr-root

I'm an active voter and have been since age 18, and I was with the Republican party until Bush 43 came into office.  The Republicans used to mean "smaller government", but it's now out of control, and then of course, there is the lobbying problem.  When the DMCA was passed, to my astonishment, I became permanently agitated (along with software patents).  So I started to look for an alternative, and the Libertarian platform is really where my values are now (I support the ECA and the EFF for starters)-less government is better.  IMHO, the real power in voting is at the local level, where your vote means a lot more, but you have to participate at the Federal level anyway to get that power.

I should note, I did work as a volunteer for H. Ross Perot, and voted for him when Bush 41 tried to get re-elected in 1992...

It's better to vote SOMETHING than not vote at all.

Re: Agreed...

But what about the main problem with the Libertarian party - that their philosophy is based in fantasyland?

Re: Agreed...

and that is different from Republicans and Democrats how exactly?

 

The repubs and dems are basically saying if we give the government the power over all these things and take it away from the people then everything will be alright, except that so far people still run the government and now there is fewer of them involved and they have a bigger incetive to game the system at everyone's expense...

I don't agree with Libertarians on everything but their philosophy seems a lot more in tune with reality then the alternatives oops sorry I meant alterantive(singular cause cause R&D are basically working on the same things now...)

Re: The DMCA is here to stay

Bob Bar and his devilish mustache.

Re: The DMCA is here to stay

Everytime I see and hear his name I think of that elephant, lol.

Re: Report: Obama VP Choice Biden is Anti-consumer on Tech

"It's ironic that Biden has chosen to portray himself as an intellectual property rights champion. He has twice been outed for plagiarizing."

No it's called being a politician. It's why no matter who is running the choice is always between two piles of ****.

Re: Report: Obama VP Choice Biden is Anti-consumer on Tech

Two piles of s*** is better than anarchy.

Re: Report: Obama VP Choice Biden is Anti-consumer on Tech

That South Park episode was on last night, haha.  A Turd Sandwich or a Giant Douche, haha.

It is all a game to these A-holes, and none of them deserve the position.  At least it is better than a Turd Sandwich, a Giant Douche, and Hillary Clinton...  That would suck.

That fact that some dumbasses are voting for McCain when they were going to vote for Hillary proves they don't care about the issues.  I would understand if Obama and Hillary werent so close on every single item they stand for, but to jump ship to McCain?  These people shouldnt even be allowed to vote...  as if they should be allowed to if they were going to vote for her in the first place...

This isnt some black guy who has no international experience or a old war vet that is on his death bed and will most likely pass the torch to his VP.  It is about who the hell is going to be the best for the job...  If McCain chose Romney and would be told that he has a year to live right before I vote, I would definitely vote for McCain, haha.  Joe on the other hand...  We all know the JT antics that guy supports.  I supported Romney since the start for the Republican't party and Edwards for the Democraps.

If it is McCain and Joe VS Obama and Biden, then I am voting for myself, Lewis Black, the next person I see on the I'm a Member ad on my screen, or Jack Thompson just for laughs.  The fact that even had a chance of being Hillary VS McCain shows how stupid our country is.  I hate how groups are siding with who is most like them physically instead of based on where they stand on the issues.

Re: Report: Obama VP Choice Biden is Anti-consumer on Tech

It feels so much like a tool for saying this, but Ron Paul was the only person who wasn't death for this country and our rights =/

Re: Report: Obama VP Choice Biden is Anti-consumer on Tech

Maybe it makes me a tool as well, but I'd never even registered to vote until Ron Paul gave me a reason to.

Re: Report: Obama VP Choice Biden is Anti-consumer on Tech

See, I liked a lot of what he said, but then at an event with the candidates a question was asked to each of them, then Ron Paul went off in a totally different direction.

Re: Report: Obama VP Choice Biden is Anti-consumer on Tech

No, it's between a giant douche and a turd sandwich....

Sortableturnip's Law: As an online discussion of video game violence grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Jack Thompson approaches 1

Re: Report: Obama VP Choice Biden is Anti-consumer on Tech

meh they are all out of touch the problem with he 2 party system the last party has been in control for 8 years and raped the cotry left and right, while a lesser evil is not change it will slow the limb loping madness awhile.

 

Besies outside of 1 or 2 thigns the prez and VP are mostly front men and unless they want to involve themselfs with goverment (like chainay did) they nromaly jsut let the cabniet and party run things.

I is fuzzy brained mew =^^=
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Copyright infringement is nothing more than civil disobedience to a bad set of laws. Let's renegotiate them.

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Re: Report: Obama VP Choice Biden is Anti-consumer on Tech

Maybe if the cotry wasn't such a slut, she wanted it. 

 
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