We've missed Perrin Kaplan ever since she left Nintendo last year.
But she's back, apparently, and made a bit of a splash at the just-completed PAX by remarking that:
Parents who use video games as a babysitter shouldn't have sex to begin with.
Perrin's comments came during a panel session on sex and violence in games. Her new company, Zebra Partners will ramp up later this year when her non-compete agreement expires with Nintendo.
Via: Spong
Andrew Eisen: Michael Chandra - Unless I overlooked it, we haven't seen how the directive to not talk about whatever he wasn't supposed to talk about was phrased so it’s hard to say if it could have been misconstrued as a suggestion or not.10/20/2014 - 12:35pm
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Andrew Eisen: Hey, the second to last link is the relevant one! He actually did say "let them suffer." Although, he didn't say it to the other person he was bickering with.10/20/2014 - 12:29pm
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Neo_DrKefka: https://archive.today/F14zZ https://archive.today/SxFas https://archive.today/1upoI https://archive.today/0hu7i https://archive.today/NsPUC https://archive.today/fLTQv https://archive.today/Wpz8S10/20/2014 - 11:21am
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Andrew Eisen: Neo_DrKefka - "Attacking"? Interesting choice of words. Also interesting that you quoted something that wasn't actually said. Leaving out a relevant link, are you?10/20/2014 - 11:04am
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quiknkold: ugh. I want to know why the hell Mozerella Sticks are 4 dollars at my works cafeteria...are they cooked in Truffle Oil?10/20/2014 - 10:41am
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Neo_DrKefka: Anti-Gamergate supporter Robert Caruso attacks female GamerGate supporter by also attacking another cause she support which is the situation happening in Syia “LET SYRIANS SUFFER” https://archive.today/F14zZ https://archive.today/Wpz8S10/20/2014 - 10:18am
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Neo_DrKefka: That is correct in an At-Will state you or the employer can part ways at any time. However Florida also has laws on the books about "Wrongful combinations against workers" http://www.flsenate.gov/Laws/Statutes/2012/448.04510/20/2014 - 10:07am
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james_fudge: he'd die if he couldn't talk about Wii U :)10/20/2014 - 9:16am
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Michael Chandra: By the way, I am not saying Andrew should stop talking about Wii-U. I find it quite nice. :)10/20/2014 - 8:53am
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Michael Chandra: 'How dare he ignore my wishes and my advice! I am his boss! I could have ordered him but I should be able to say it's advice rather than ordering him directly!'10/20/2014 - 8:52am
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Michael Chandra: If GP goes "EZK, do not talk about X publicly for a week, we're preparing a big article on it" and he still tweets about X, they'd have a legitimate reason to be pissed.10/20/2014 - 8:52am
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Michael Chandra: If GP tells Andrew "we'd kinda prefer it if you stopped talking about Wii-U for 1 week" and he'd tweet about it anyway, firing him for it would be idiotic.10/20/2014 - 8:51am
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Michael Chandra: Legal right, sure. But that doesn't make it any less pathetic of an excuse.10/20/2014 - 8:50am
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ZippyDSMlee: You mean right to fire states.10/20/2014 - 8:50am
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james_fudge: some states have "at will" employee laws10/20/2014 - 7:50am
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quiknkold: It says in the article that being in florida, you can get fired regardless if its a fireable offence10/20/2014 - 7:19am
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Michael Chandra: If your employee respectfully disagrees with your advice, that's not a fireable offense. If they ignore your order, THEN you have the right to be pissed.10/20/2014 - 6:49am
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Michael Chandra: I... Don't get one thing. If you do not want your employee to do X, why do you tell them it's advice or a wish? Give them a damn order.10/20/2014 - 6:48am
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james_fudge: A leak that had me worried about being swatted by Lizard Squad.10/20/2014 - 6:03am
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james_fudge: It should be noted that the author leaked the GJP group names online10/20/2014 - 6:03am
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Comments
Re: Ex-Nintendo Exec Perrin Kaplan: Bad Parents Should be
Riiiight. Because sex automatically equals children. Funny how I've been having sex for years now, but have yet to get preggers.
Re: Ex-Nintendo Exec Perrin Kaplan: Bad Parents Should be
Well, considering that having sperm meeting an egg is the only process that leads to fertilization, and that having sex is a very effective way of producing this effect, then saying they shouldn't have sex would be, by proxy, saying they shouldn't have children.
If you haven't gotten pregnant then congratulations, you're among the more responsible(if using protection) or lucky (if not) people out there.
Re: Ex-Nintendo Exec Perrin Kaplan: Bad Parents Should be
Having sex does not equal having children. We have condoms and birth control now. Geesh.
Re: Ex-Nintendo Exec Perrin Kaplan: Bad Parents Should be
please reread my post. I think you may have misinterpreted what I said.
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Re: Ex-Nintendo Exec Perrin Kaplan: Bad Parents Should be
Venom off already. There is a difference between an idea and reality. She is making a point (and a valid me in my opinion) but hardly saying to seek out and neuter the masses.
Games are not the source of the evil of childrens actions if the parents will not become involved or take responsibility. Fair and valid if a bit blunt for most.
Re: Ex-Nintendo Exec Perrin Kaplan: Bad Parents Should be
It has never made sense to me that you need a licence to drive but you can squirt out as many kids as you want.
We need to have a licence to breed. There is nothing evil about it. Some people should not be allowed to procreate!
Re: Ex-Nintendo Exec Perrin Kaplan: Bad Parents Should be
For the record you only need a license to drive on public roads. You can drive as much as you like on your own land (or other private land if you get the owner's permission) and you don't need a license. At least that's the law in California (or at least I think it is, I may have misread it but I doubt it).
"We need to have a licence to breed. There is nothing evil about it."
BULLSHIT! Just because some people are bad parents doesn't mean that everyone else has to prove their worth as parents. And I don't care who you are you cannot tell whether or not the people involved will become good parents or not or whether or not they'll be good enough for a hypothetical child of theirs.
"Some people should not be allowed to procreate!"
The government should not get to decide who those people are. That's too much power.
o_o !
Oh my god...really? People come on here and rant and rave about their rights to play games, but then we here people talk gleefully of forced sterylization...you realize if it was a law, we'd probably be the ones that were forbidden from having kids, right? The average people, the ones who aren't rich or politically powerful.
Don't get me wrong, there are some fucked up people out there who shouldn't reproduce, but the damage this sort of thing would do would outweigh any good, and the fuck ups would probably just slip through anyway.
Who would decide who gets sterylized and who doesn't? What category would you fall in?
-Entertainment isn't the reason the world sucks. It's the reason we know the world sucks. For information on games and psychology, look up: Jonathan Freedman(2002)Block & Crain(2007)Grand Theft Childhood, by Harvard researchers Larry Kutner&Cheryl Olson
Re: o_o !
So am I right in saying you agree that there's a problem, but you've given up on finding a solution?
o_o !
Right on the first, wrong on the second. I fully aknowledge the problems with overpopulation, but I've given up on solutions that sacrifice freedoms.
-Remember kids, personal responsibility is for losers!
For information on games and psychology, look up: Jonathan Freedman(2002)Block & Crain(2007) Just to name a few...
Re: o_o !
How about using tax incentives?
Re: o_o !
such as a law that would say that childless sterile people don't have to pay the part of taxes that go to public schools and child services?
岩「…Ace beats Jack」
岩「…I can see why Hasselbeck's worried about fake guns killing fake people. afterall, she's a fake journalist on a fake news channel」
Re: o_o !
No way. At no point should sterilisation be mandatory, or even preferred. It should stay as it is now, a personal choice.
Re: o_o !
actually, my points is: Why should sterile people, by choice or by accident, who are childless have to pay for such things like public schools when they have no children to benefit from them? It's like those ads that say "Why pay extra?"
岩「…Ace beats Jack」
岩「…I can see why Hasselbeck's worried about fake guns killing fake people. afterall, she's a fake journalist on a fake news channel」
Re: o_o !
Good point, but would you accept that everyone in society benefits when everyone is educated?
Re: Ex-Nintendo Exec Perrin Kaplan: Bad Parents Should be
damnit, ive been saying it for years. FORCED STERILIZATION for those who fail to meet a certain criteria on an intelligence test. they MUST NOT PROCREATE.
Re: Ex-Nintendo Exec Perrin Kaplan: Bad Parents Should be
Just ... no. You go away now.
Re: Ex-Nintendo Exec Perrin Kaplan: Bad Parents Should be
Remember folks. Them wanting to take your videogames = evil; but them using Nazi ideals of procreation is just fine and dandy.
*sarcasm mode off*
Re: Ex-Nintendo Exec Perrin Kaplan: Bad Parents Should be
I blame 300 and God of war. If it weren't for these idiots getting the idea that selective breeding of humans garners a society that the breeder wants then maybe they wouldn't support such horrbile legislation.
(For those of you who don't get the reference, whenever a Spartan baby was born government officials inspected it, if it was deemed unfit it was left on a hill to die). (Oh and I don't actually blame the movies).
Re: Ex-Nintendo Exec Perrin Kaplan: Bad Parents Should be
I like what she's saying. Simply put:
One horny dumbass + another horny dumbass (opposite sex) = Two dumbasses and a child with the potential to be a dumbass.
Re: Ex-Nintendo Exec Perrin Kaplan: Bad Parents Should be
ALL children have the potential to be dumbasses, all children also have the potential to be something great.
But let's see your scientific evidence that intelligence is passed down through genes (or more specifically a lack of intelligence).
Re: Ex-Nintendo Exec Perrin Kaplan: Bad Parents Should be
Interesting, while she may have a point about bad parents, the thing that's more interesting to me is the reaction here.
You have several people calling for the regulation of a person's right to have children. Now if any of you advocating this are pro-choice then you've just outed yourself as a hypocrite. For the past 30 years or so the pro-choice movement has hammered the point that the woman and only the woman has the right to make this kind of choice. Saying then that the government should step in and regulate it is the height of hypocrisy. It also makes me laugh so thank you for that.
Re: Ex-Nintendo Exec Perrin Kaplan: Bad Parents Should be
Eh, I'm not making a statement either way about the "birth license" thing, but I think your analogy is faulty. Abortion is a debate between the rights of the fetus versus the rights of the mother, and the question of "when does life begin?". It has nothing to do with the question of whether or not we believe the mother should be allowed to contribute to the gene pool.
Re: Ex-Nintendo Exec Perrin Kaplan: Bad Parents Should be
hmmm, I don't think it's possible to regulate it. That would be a violation of basic human rights.
I kind of like the idea but it won't work and i don't want the government making the choice of whether people have kids or not.
I take back my support for the idea of regulating kids, even though it sounds good.
Re: Ex-Nintendo Exec Perrin Kaplan: Bad Parents Should be
You don't have to have the government regulate it - they could just disincentivise having kids for certain people (those who can't be arsed to learn anything new - especially about parenting, communication, and marriage). Tax cuts, etc.
Re: Ex-Nintendo Exec Perrin Kaplan: Bad Parents Should be
I'm going to leave this thread and pretend i never read it.
Same here...
Re: Same here...
Don't leave I need your help debating this proposal.
Fine...I'm back in...
Re: Ex-Nintendo Exec Perrin Kaplan: Bad Parents Should be
If you replace the word sex with children then I'll agree. I don't the only purpose for sex is to create life. Why couldn't they have sex with the use of condom or birth control?
Re: Ex-Nintendo Exec Perrin Kaplan: Bad Parents Should be
Important to note that it is not and never will be acceptable to prohibit anyone from having children. Prohibiting the birth of children is a terrible idea that goes against the existence of a free society. You should be able to choose when you have sex and when you want to have sex to procreate. If you want to start issuing licenses for such things then you are just as bad as the people who want the government to regulate the sale of entertainment and art. Infact, I'd call you a bigger enemy of liberty because having children is a basic human birthright. So you don't think that if the government began regulating who gives birth we wouldn't see racism, elitism and even Nazi-like motives arise? This is one idea you've got to put in the dirt immediately upon hearing it. No appologies and no beating around the bush. It is absolutely one of the worst ideas you can possibly express if you wish to live in a free society. Its just asking more problems that will cause violent reactions and punishment of innocent people that are doing what humans are supposed to do. I'm honestly surprised I've heard it here numerous times. Something is wrong with your brain if you think the regulation of games is wrong any the regulation of the right to have children is right. (No, I'm not sorryo for putting it that way. Terrible idea).
Re: Ex-Nintendo Exec Perrin Kaplan: Bad Parents Should be
The problem is sustainable growth on a global scale. We are approaching a population saturation point - this will be when people can no longer grow enough food. At that point, people will either starve, or (more likely) attack other people who have food, or something else entirely.
Having kids *is* a birthright, but being honest about your ability to support and raise the child must be a birthresponsibility. At some point we have to be honest and practical about the problems we all (as a human race) have to face.
Re: Ex-Nintendo Exec Perrin Kaplan: Bad Parents Should be
Yeah when people propose the idea I think they must be joking or that they only gave the idea a split second's worth of thought. Because I couldn't make sense of the world otherwise.
Re: Ex-Nintendo Exec Perrin Kaplan: Bad Parents Should be
My brain is completely stunned.
Re: Ex-Nintendo Exec Perrin Kaplan: Bad Parents Should be
As mine is with YOUR argument.
I do not believe the sex drive is primarily about passing on ones genes. f you do, more power to you, but if an authority were to be created enforcing the lisencing of children then I woud support it. It would solve many of the problems in the world.
Re: Ex-Nintendo Exec Perrin Kaplan: Bad Parents Should be
Name me one problem that allowing a corrupt power-hungry government (that would be most of them) to control who gets to have kids would solve. Oh and back it up with something.
I'd sonner implement A modest Proposal then resort to a licensing system for kids, and I mean that wholeheartedly.
Re: Ex-Nintendo Exec Perrin Kaplan: Bad Parents Should be
For an example of what a corrupt government would do with that kind of God awful power let us turn to the Bible (you don't have to believe the bible is real for this example to work).
In the Bible the egyptian pharaoh considered the Jews dangerous and ordered all babies thrown in a pit and drown.
Now a government has that same authority to declare that all Jews are unfit parents and should thus be banned from having kids. All jews that do have kids will be punished (and God only knows what happens to the kids).
Re: Ex-Nintendo Exec Perrin Kaplan: Bad Parents Should be
Licensing based on what standards? One frequently hears of the slippery slope effect on this site. Do you think it works differently with breeding? What's to keep the people who issue these liscenses from deciding to ban everyone who didn't perfectly fit their image? It would most likely be the religious zealots like JT who would decide who reproduces, so we'd all be fucked.
-Entertainment isn't the reason the world sucks. It's the reason we know the world sucks. For information on games and psychology, look up: Jonathan Freedman(2002)Block & Crain(2007)Grand Theft Childhood, by Harvard researchers Larry Kutner&Cheryl Olson
Re: Ex-Nintendo Exec Perrin Kaplan: Bad Parents Should be
Banning sex? Not even the Iranians have done that yet.. I think.
~You Could Be Mine, But You're Way Out Of Line..~
Re: Ex-Nintendo Exec Perrin Kaplan: Bad Parents Should be
Nefario, its not so much as not keeping your children occupied with that elmo game for the 360, or with some toy or TV show, that is ok. Just don't do it a whole lot, you need to spend time with your kids so you can raise them to be happy and productive and successful.
Re: Ex-Nintendo Exec Perrin Kaplan: Bad Parents Should be
I hate people who think they know what people should and shouldn't be doing even though they never met them. Reminds me of this one person who said people shouldn't be allowed to get married till their late 20s or something like that because they wouldn't be ready before hand. It's as if you can figure out when ANYONE will be ready based off a stupid formula. What a joke.
Oh and Dennis you should change the title to
"Ex-Nintendo Exec Perrin Kaplan: Bad Parents Should Not be Having Sex." There's a HUGE difference between that and saying you should ban it.
I believe that normal healthy people should not smoke marijuana but I am firmly in favor of legalization.
Re: Ex-Nintendo Exec Perrin Kaplan: Bad Parents Should be
"It's as if you can figure out when ANYONE will be ready based off a stupid formula."
Actually... you can, but it has much less to do about WHEN they marry and has more to do with HOW they marry. If you take educational classes with your partner that prepare you for marriage (and they are out there, just hard to find sometimes) that teach you how to manage money as a team, conflict resolution, how to compromise, and how to communicate, then you are much less likely to get divorced than those who take no such classes. It's much better to find out before you get married that your partner can't balance a checkbook or do laundry without ruining the wash and trying to correct it than after the fact.
I do, however, agree with your statement overall. We need more good parents having sex. More sex for smart and responsible people! Pop them youngun's out!
Re: Ex-Nintendo Exec Perrin Kaplan: Bad Parents Should be
But to artificially pull a number out of thin air and say 'this will be the age where everyone is guaranteed to be ready, everyone else, tough luck'.
Or and smart parents don't necessarily mean a smart baby, I can name any number of genetic defects that occur at birth which cannot be controlled by the parents. Oh and of course dumb parents don't always produce dumb children.
But even if we have this thing called 'public education' which can help the slower kids immensely.
Re: Ex-Nintendo Exec Perrin Kaplan: Bad Parents Should be
Now hang on here - you've got "smart" and "good" mixed up. The point is not that your kid turns out a certain way, but that the parents put sufficient time and effort into raising them.
Re: Ex-Nintendo Exec Perrin Kaplan: Bad Parents Should be
"But to artificially pull a number out of thin air and say 'this will be the age where everyone is guaranteed to be ready, everyone else, tough luck'."
I already stated I agreed with you on this point. You ARE correct that it's ridiculous.
"Or and smart parents don't necessarily mean a smart baby, I can name any number of genetic defects that occur at birth which cannot be controlled by the parents. Oh and of course dumb parents don't always produce dumb children"
Yes, but genetics favors creating a child like the parents, but it looks like you already understand that.
Re: Ex-Nintendo Exec Perrin Kaplan: Bad Parents Should be
it was a stupid comment that just garnered some laughs. i was in the panel myself. what shes trying to tell me she has never used anything like a book? or elmo toy? or spongebob tv show? to keep her kids attention for a few moments while she gets some personal time. bull!@#$.
Re: Ex-Nintendo Exec Perrin Kaplan: Bad Parents Should be
Exactly! People who are supposedly video game fans should not be arguing against video games. There's nothing wrong with video games as an entertainment medium for kids. It's about time that video game advocates stopped agreeing with the anti-video game arguments and realised that video games are no worse than books or any other entertainment medium.
Re: Ex-Nintendo Exec Perrin Kaplan: Bad Parents Should be
Again, people are missing the point. This was not an anti-video game statement. She was speaking against parents who blindly assume all games are for children, and so allow their children to play games with age-inappropriate content, and then blame video games for any trouble with their children down the line, when in fact the root of the problem is neglectful parenting.
Re: Ex-Nintendo Exec Perrin Kaplan: Bad Parents Should be
If you've ever seen neglected foster children (what got them in the foster home, not the condition they are currently in) then you'd know just how right this statement is.