Republican VP Choice Sarah Palin Tried to Ban Books

September 3, 2008 -

While we've yet to hear of any connection between Republican VP nominee Sarah Palin and video games, the New York Times reports that she explored a book banning campaign as mayor of Wasilla, Alaska in the late 1990's:

Shortly after becoming mayor, former city officials and Wasilla residents said, Ms. Palin approached the town librarian about the possibility of banning some books, though she never followed through...

 

Ann Kilkenny, a Democrat who said she attended every City Council meeting in Ms. Palin’s first year in office, said Ms. Palin brought up the idea of banning some books at one meeting. “They were somehow morally or socially objectionable to her,” Ms. Kilkenny said.

 

The librarian, Mary Ellen Emmons, pledged to “resist all efforts at censorship,” Ms. Kilkenny recalled. Ms. Palin fired Ms. Emmons shortly after taking office but changed course after residents made a strong show of support...

Politico offers this on Palin's book banning attempt:

According to the Frontiersman newspaper, Wasilla’s library director, Mary Ellen Emmons, said that Palin asked her outright if she "could live with censorship of library books.” Palin later dismissed the conversation as a “rhetorical” exercise.

Time has more:

Stein says that as mayor, Palin continued to inject religious beliefs into her policy at times. "She asked the library how she could go about banning books," he says, because some voters thought they had inappropriate language in them. "The librarian was aghast." That woman, Mary Ellen Baker, couldn't be reached for comment, but news reports from the time show that Palin had threatened to fire Baker for not giving "full support" to the mayor.

GP: If Sarah Palin would ban books, would she also ban video games? It's certainly a valid question.


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Re: Republican VP Choice Sarah Palin Tried to Ban Books

Can we PLEASE have the integrity to distinguish between prohibiting the use of taxpayer money to buy certain books for a public library and a totalitarian banning the sale, distribution, and consumption of books by the public?  One is sensible public policy, one is an infringment of personal liberties.

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Re: Republican VP Choice Sarah Palin Tried to Ban Books

Hey, my comment was deleted! So the anti-Palin stance here at GP must actually be "only ban and censor when it's not in favor of liberalism".

Re: Republican VP Choice Sarah Palin Tried to Ban Books

Not it is an obey the comment policy stance.

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Re: Republican VP Choice Sarah Palin Tried to Ban Books

So off-topic speculation without supporting documents about the VP candidate is not defamatory?

Oh, well, in that case: you're gay, and Obam is Muslim.

Re: Republican VP Choice Sarah Palin Tried to Ban Books

It is on topic. Both books and games are first ammendment issues and if a person feels that certain books should be banned, then they will more than likely feel the same toward games.

Also, you are wrong on both counts. I am not gay and Obama is not Muslim.

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Re: Republican VP Choice Sarah Palin Tried to Ban Books

Well, you're most likely liberal, so you're most likely gay. See how that works?

Assumptions are so much fun, aren't they, GP?

Re: Republican VP Choice Sarah Palin Tried to Ban Books

He wasn't posting anything as fact. He was speculating based on the reports he found in other media sources.

Also, you claiming I am gay or liberal based on no information, is a lot different than asking if someone would try to ban games based on little information on their history of attempts at banning books.

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Re: Republican VP Choice Sarah Palin Tried to Ban Books

"Republican VP Choice Sarah Palin Tried to Ban Books"
Sounds like Dennis has already made up his mind.

And so have I: you're gay.

Re: Republican VP Choice Sarah Palin Tried to Ban Books

I made up my mind about you as well and it's based on observations I just made.  You're an argumentative child who resorts to name calling when criticized.

Re: Republican VP Choice Sarah Palin Tried to Ban Books

What? It's an insult to be called gay? Get on the political correctness train with the other liberals!

And actually, I don't wait until I'm criticized before I call it like it is. You're gay, too.

Re: Republican VP Choice Sarah Palin Tried to Ban Books

You're half right.  I'm bisexual.  Also, political correctness is for those that are afraid of being honest.

Re: Republican VP Choice Sarah Palin Tried to Ban Books

...................Thompson?

Re: Republican VP Choice Sarah Palin Tried to Ban Books

...unless there's something wrong with being gay or Muslim...

Re: Republican VP Choice Sarah Palin Tried to Ban Books

maybe he's a gay muslim.  I want to meet one now.

Re: Republican VP Choice Sarah Palin Tried to Ban Books

Have you checked the posting guidelines?

Re: Republican VP Choice Sarah Palin Tried to Ban Books

Have you checked the Constitution?

Re: Republican VP Choice Sarah Palin Tried to Ban Books

Not lately, but what does that have to do with anything?

Re: Republican VP Choice Sarah Palin Tried to Ban Books

Freedom of Speech - First Amendment. Surely as a frequenter of GP, you know this...

Re: Republican VP Choice Sarah Palin Tried to Ban Books

The problem is that he does know how the first amendment works, and you clearly don't. Dennis can't do a thing to stop you from starting your own website, and you have zero right to tell him what to do with his.

Re: Republican VP Choice Sarah Palin Tried to Ban Books

Except that the first amendment doesn't apply to non-US government owned websites.

Re: Republican VP Choice Sarah Palin Tried to Ban Books

I used to respect gp.

Re: Republican VP Choice Sarah Palin Tried to Ban Books

Oh, shut up. If one story makes you lose respect for a news blog, then your lost respect was nothing to shed tears over. Although this entry is slightly obtuse, it's still relevant to the "freedom to enjoy various forms of entertainment" part of our lives.

I remember reading a list about all the books teachers weren't allowed to show students and the reasons why, and with each entry I read, I could feel the blood in the back of my eyes coming to a boil. If McCain gets elected and she tries to ban books again (and let's say, hypothetically, she succeeds), then what's to stop her from turning around and banning music? Or movies? Or (and here's where this becomes relevant) our video games?

Re: Republican VP Choice Sarah Palin Tried to Ban Books

Oh, God help us if we lose our video games!!!!

If it came down to your video games and movies...or a child's life...which would you sacrifice?

Because Obama's been preaching about handing taxpayer dollars to third-world countries, and meanwhile morons like you dump cash into the deep pockets of Hollywood and the Silicon Valley as Obama spends $150 million on DNC security...

Re: Republican VP Choice Sarah Palin Tried to Ban Books

The child every time...

Re: Republican VP Choice Sarah Palin Tried to Ban Books

"Because Obama's been preaching about handing taxpayer dollars to third-world countries, ..."

Sure beats handing it out to terrorist nations the way GW does it, dontcha think?

Re: Republican VP Choice Sarah Palin Tried to Ban Books

Nope. They harbor terrorists. Kill 'em all.

Re: Republican VP Choice Sarah Palin Tried to Ban Books

Are you a missionary out there in these countries personally helping the situation.  If not, your opinions and views are no more valid than any on here.  Some of us are very happy with our form of entertainment.  You may choose the bible, we choose electronic gaming.  Same thing lies at the heart of them both - internal and external happiness.

Re: Republican VP Choice Sarah Palin Tried to Ban Books

Except that "out there" (your use of that phrase was perfect - it shows how many of us live in a media-created box, with no intention to further ourselves beyond self-indulgence and the occasional orgasm), people die. Earth is not a Grand Theft Auto sanbox setting, kiddo.

Re: Republican VP Choice Sarah Palin Tried to Ban Books

The child. Every time.

 

 

(I'm just kidding - or am I?)

 

 

(Yes. Yes, I am)

Re: Republican VP Choice Sarah Palin Tried to Ban Books

I thought you said it perfectly with the first three words, but the rest was a bonus :)

Re: Republican VP Choice Sarah Palin Tried to Ban Books

Thanks and you're welcome, but looking forward, I think I may have made a slight mistake: now, he won't shut up. Jeez, this guy's almost as bad as.......Hey, wait a mintue...Could it be..?

Re: Republican VP Choice Sarah Palin Tried to Ban Books

"....Hey, wait a minute...."

Fixed. Sorry. My bad.

Re: Republican VP Choice Sarah Palin Tried to Ban Books

This is kinda alarming isn't it? Oh well, McCain isn't gonna win anyway. It would break the cycle.

 

-Remember kids, personal responsibility is for losers! For information on games and psychology, look up: Jonathan Freedman(2002)Block & Crain(2007) Just to name a few...

Reality/////////////////////////////////////Fantasy. Seems like a pretty thick line to me...

Re: Republican VP Choice Sarah Palin Tried to Ban Books

I have a real quick question for anyone who lives/has lived/knows enough to answer: Just how strict are the libraries out there? Because I'm sitting in a Baltimore library now and I know that for the most part they just don't carry books with certain levels of profanity or adult themes because of exposure to children etc. etc. So from my perspective her finding books so "immoral" she feels the need to ban them entirely strikes me as somewhat alarming in and of itself.

Re: Republican VP Choice Sarah Palin Tried to Ban Books

I have actually seen this woman described as libertarian-leaning in the past, as hard to imagine as that is. Wow.

Palin had threatened to fire Baker for not giving "full support" to the mayor.

Seems like that's going to be her favorite thing to do.

Re: Republican VP Choice Sarah Palin Tried to Ban Books

What titles did she want to ban?  I'm guessing "Safe Sex Alternatives To Abstinence" and "How To Keep Your City's Budget Balanced."

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Re: Republican VP Choice Sarah Palin Tried to Ban Books

This would be more of a story if it a source other than an obvious Democrat opponent with hearsay or actually tried to get a book removed from something other than a PUBLIC library or better yet, tried to have a book banned from a store. McCain has a snowballs chance in hell of winning but a lot of you Obama supporters are going to be in for a rude awakening after he takes office.

Re: Republican VP Choice Sarah Palin Tried to Ban Books

The phrase, "a snowball's chance in hell" implies no chance at all. You then go on to say that he will take office - do you play the lottery, by any chance? Even if you don't, I have a fantastic offer for you - all I need is your credit card number and your bank login details :D

(Please don't actually post the information I mentioned above - I was just kidding!)

Re: Republican VP Choice Sarah Palin Tried to Ban Books

I think he means that Democrats are going to be in for a rude awakening once Obama takes office.

---------------------------------------------------- Debates are like merry go rounds. Two people take their positions then they go through the same points over and over and over again. Then when it's over they have the same positions they started in.

Re: Republican VP Choice Sarah Palin Tried to Ban Books

Ah! Makes more sense now :)

Re: Republican VP Choice Sarah Palin Tried to Ban Books

Obviously... And if anything someone could have been a smart ass and pointed out my missing apostrophe in "snowball's". =( McCain has no chance in hell of winning, even if the polling was showing it being close. Of course, there's still two months to go and a lot could change from today and November 4th but I doubt it. I'm not voting for either of them, but it is pretty cool that just the fact that we could have either our first black president of female vice-president in the same year. It just sucks that they and their running mates are all terrible.

Re: Republican VP Choice Sarah Palin Tried to Ban Books

I don't know, man - popular opinion was definitely against Bush getting re-elected, wasn't it? But I don't live in America - is the situation very different now from what it was then?

Re: Republican VP Choice Sarah Palin Tried to Ban Books

That's not entirely accurate.

Public opinion was split.  We have been relatively united in our general dislike of the current administrator (I refuse to call him the "president"....he isn't my president, I didn't vote for his stupid ass, and refering to him as such does little more than insult anyone else who ever has or ever will hold the esteemed title), but when it came to replacing the president in the middle of a war, the opinions sort of went wayside to common sense.  Many people felt that it was a mistake to have a complete regime change in the middle of a conflict, and I'm not saying that they are wrong, just under the mistaken impression that Bush and his lackeys were capable of doing something right.

For that matter, he hasn't won the presidential election yet.  A broken electoral system, a voting scandal in the state his brother governed, and black people turned away from the poles marred both of our last elections, and their outcomes.  For conceding the elections, I blame the Democrats.  For keeping it close enough that they were able to cheat it out from under the democrats, I blame anyone who thinks that the President of the United States of America should be someone who would be nice to have a beer with.

Re: Republican VP Choice Sarah Palin Tried to Ban Books

I love how all of the liberal college kids scream "this is valid!" just so they have a chance to take a cheap shot at Palin on GP...

Anyway: she didn't try to ban the publishing of books outright, she only tried to remove them from FREE PUBLIC ACCESS.

Does Toys R Us have Gears of War demo stations? Are the newspaper or radio stations allowed to use whatever kind of language they wish?
No?
Then quit whining about a concerned mother who doesn't want children to have unlimited access to objectionably content. Libraries are state-funded and should be regulated by the state, not pandered out by liberals as a "free speech smorgasborg".

Re: Republican VP Choice Sarah Palin Tried to Ban Books

"Does Toys R Us have Gears of War demo stations?"

They could if they wanted to. 

"Are the newspaper or radio stations allowed to use whatever kind of language they wish?"

No but in my opinion they should, and it's complete bs that they can't.
 

"Then quit whining about a concerned mother who doesn't want children to have unlimited access to objectionably content."

Oh look it's the 'for the children' argument that we've seen numoerosu times before and by jove it still doesn't have much merit. If she was really interested in helping kids why thne did she discuss banning the books completely instead of just keeping them away from kids?

Finally libraries are not allowed to censor the internet service they provide to adult patrons (well they can but if the adult requests uncensored internt they have to abide) why the hell should the government then be allowed to ban books from libraries?

---------------------------------------------------- Debates are like merry go rounds. Two people take their positions then they go through the same points over and over and over again. Then when it's over they have the same positions they started in.

Re: Republican VP Choice Sarah Palin Tried to Ban Books

 AMEN.

Re: Republican VP Choice Sarah Palin Tried to Ban Books

And I love how the Republican supporters come on here and whine annoyingly about how it's a cheap shot.

At the end of the day, the women showed an interest in contravening the First Amendment. Whether or not she succeeded is irrelevant - it goes to pattern. If she's happy with banning books - even if just from a library - as a small-town mayor, imagine what she'd be happy to do as a Vice President?

Regulation by the state - isn't that censorship? I thought Republicans were fans of parents making the choices for their kids, not the state?

Re: Republican VP Choice Sarah Palin Tried to Ban Books

Only problem is that I'm not a Republican.

Re: Republican VP Choice Sarah Palin Tried to Ban Books

The other problem is that I wasn't replying to you :)

 
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