BBFC Rates Fallout 3 an 18 with No Edits
BBFC Rates Fallout 3 an 18 with No Edits
September 5, 2008
Fallout 3 has been cleared for sale in the U.K. with no content edits required.
That's the word from the British Board of Film Classification, which yesterday stamped the much-anticipated Bethesda title with an 18 rating, meaning that it can legally be sold to those of that age and older.
Curiously, a "consumer advice" note posted with the rating decision does not mention the drug use which got Fallout 3 banned in Australia earlier this year. The only reference to content is "Contains very strong bloody violence and gore."
The BBFC, currently embroiled in a power struggle for control of U.K. game ratings, is best known to gamers for the outright ban it placed on Manhunt 2 last year. That decision was later overturned by Britain's High Court.
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Posted 11/07/09 at 04:27pm
ZippyDSMlee: man I got alot of junk and dup files too >< god I need orginization...and no not the knee capping media mafia kind :P
ZippyDSMlee: man I got alot of junk and dup files too >< god I need orginization...and no not the knee capping media mafia kind :P
Posted 11/07/09 at 04:26pm
ZippyDSMlee: replaced :P
ZippyDSMlee: replaced :P
Posted 11/07/09 at 04:23pm
ZippyDSMlee: beemoh:hey its like 60GB porn,400GB anime 100GB games and crap I have took from all my DVDs, I hate waiting on dvds to install stuff..... oh and 40GB of my porn was in the found.000 folder...mostly corrupted.... least I got names of wut needs to be repa
ZippyDSMlee: beemoh:hey its like 60GB porn,400GB anime 100GB games and crap I have took from all my DVDs, I hate waiting on dvds to install stuff..... oh and 40GB of my porn was in the found.000 folder...mostly corrupted.... least I got names of wut needs to be repa
Posted 11/07/09 at 04:18pm
beemoh: @Zip: ...and you'd have to spend all that time re-downloading that porn?
beemoh: @Zip: ...and you'd have to spend all that time re-downloading that porn?
Posted 11/07/09 at 03:34pm
ZippyDSMlee: ggrrrrr......vista lost one of my hard drives and I had a heart attack thinking I lost 1TB of data....
ZippyDSMlee: ggrrrrr......vista lost one of my hard drives and I had a heart attack thinking I lost 1TB of data....
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:58am
JDKJ: Which could be explained by both (a) and (b).
JDKJ: Which could be explained by both (a) and (b).
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:56am
Austin_Lewis: JDKJ: You forgot C) the fact that, for some reason, every time he did something that would suggest he shouldn't be in the military, let alone an officer, higher ups ignored it or let it slide.
Austin_Lewis: JDKJ: You forgot C) the fact that, for some reason, every time he did something that would suggest he shouldn't be in the military, let alone an officer, higher ups ignored it or let it slide.
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:51am
JDKJ: Part of the problem is, I believe, that (a) the Army had a lot of time and money already invested in him and which they were unwilling to simply write-off and (b) an increasing need for the type of skills and services he provided.
JDKJ: Part of the problem is, I believe, that (a) the Army had a lot of time and money already invested in him and which they were unwilling to simply write-off and (b) an increasing need for the type of skills and services he provided.
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:48am
JDKJ: And that even if he was begging not to get cut loose, he was apparently a real good candidate for being cut loose, anyway.
JDKJ: And that even if he was begging not to get cut loose, he was apparently a real good candidate for being cut loose, anyway.
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:11am
JDKJ: @chada: And while Kennedy once noted that there's usually more than enough blame for everyone to get a slice, the possibility that the Army was unwilling to cut loose someone who was asking to get cut loose could be a factor.
JDKJ: @chada: And while Kennedy once noted that there's usually more than enough blame for everyone to get a slice, the possibility that the Army was unwilling to cut loose someone who was asking to get cut loose could be a factor.
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:07am
ZippyDSMlee: *noms on his feet*..nomnomnomnom*droooll* ...wuuutttttt uuu looking at?
ZippyDSMlee: *noms on his feet*..nomnomnomnom*droooll* ...wuuutttttt uuu looking at?
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:05am
JDKJ: I'm no psychologist, but I'm told that crazy people have a tendency to do crazy things.
JDKJ: I'm no psychologist, but I'm told that crazy people have a tendency to do crazy things.
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:03am
chadachada321: Whoops, was out of the convo for awhile. I do wonder what type of ammo he used etc, but the real issue is WHY he did it, not HOW
chadachada321: Whoops, was out of the convo for awhile. I do wonder what type of ammo he used etc, but the real issue is WHY he did it, not HOW
Posted 11/07/09 at 09:56am
JDKJ: But if it turns out that they actually did, they'll have Hell to pay.
JDKJ: But if it turns out that they actually did, they'll have Hell to pay.
Posted 11/07/09 at 09:45am
JDKJ: And I'd tend to rule out the possibilty of FN Herstal supplying restricted ammunition to someone merely because they're ordering it from a military base.
JDKJ: And I'd tend to rule out the possibilty of FN Herstal supplying restricted ammunition to someone merely because they're ordering it from a military base.
Posted 11/07/09 at 09:37am
JDKJ: I know you don't leave your gated community and get around much in dark alleys, so you may be surprised to learn that there's this thing called "the black market" where, if you've got enough money, ain't too much of anything which can't be bought.
JDKJ: I know you don't leave your gated community and get around much in dark alleys, so you may be surprised to learn that there's this thing called "the black market" where, if you've got enough money, ain't too much of anything which can't be bought.
Posted 11/07/09 at 09:36am
Austin_Lewis: Or, maybe he or someone else at the base ordered the SS190 from FN Herstal.
Austin_Lewis: Or, maybe he or someone else at the base ordered the SS190 from FN Herstal.
Posted 11/07/09 at 09:32am
Austin_Lewis: the hands of private owners. They run about 300 dollars minimum for a box of 50, and boxes of AP 5.7 are extremely scarce, mainly residing in the hands of Class III stores or individuals who for one reason or another got a demo box of it.
Austin_Lewis: the hands of private owners. They run about 300 dollars minimum for a box of 50, and boxes of AP 5.7 are extremely scarce, mainly residing in the hands of Class III stores or individuals who for one reason or another got a demo box of it.
Posted 11/07/09 at 09:30am
Austin_Lewis: There are other firearms that fire the 5.7. However, I too would like to know where he got the ammo and what kind was used. Maybe Hasan, planning not to live through this, went out and bought one the boxes of SS190 that are floating around in
Austin_Lewis: There are other firearms that fire the 5.7. However, I too would like to know where he got the ammo and what kind was used. Maybe Hasan, planning not to live through this, went out and bought one the boxes of SS190 that are floating around in
Posted 11/07/09 at 08:44am
JDKJ: And it isn't yet clear what type of ammunition Hasan used. It's strange that he purchased a gun but didn't purchase ammunition for it at the same place and time. Especially because the calibre required is peculiar to the actual gun.
JDKJ: And it isn't yet clear what type of ammunition Hasan used. It's strange that he purchased a gun but didn't purchase ammunition for it at the same place and time. Especially because the calibre required is peculiar to the actual gun.
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The ban was not overturned by the British High Court. The only part the courts played was when the BBFC applied for a judicial review of the original report the VAC submitted. The High Court ruled that the report did not correctly address the criteria in the video records act and required the VAC to re-review its finding. The VAC then filed a second report that did address the video recordings act upon which the BBFC were required to issue the classification which they did.
At no point did the High Court overturn anything besides he VAC's original report.
Ya... and without the court to to go to the ban would never be lifted so thus in tuth the high court did overturn it becuse the bbfc didnt want to take it to full court.
At least try and addmit the process is bit suspect.. you brits can't be preft in everything! ^_~
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Actually Zipster, it was the VAC that didn't want to take it to the High Court, not the BBFC. The BBFC wanted a judicial review, hence the case being taken to a Judge. End of, really. Nothing suspect IMHO.
Aww, I'm 17!
Thank GOD for amazon! (special edition baby!)
I would have thought that the BBFC would have leaped at the chance to ban the game, unless the realized that banning something that is popular is a bad move.
The BBFC have been rating games since the 1980s and only twice have they refused classification, and that was only becuase of pressure from the media, something neither the ESRB or PEGI is immune to. What makes you assume they'd jump at the chance? They're not nearly as dranconian as US posters who have probably never even visited the UK make out. In fact, they're very liberal, leading to a '12' rating for Mass Effect, when everybody else rated it 16+.
A comment like that only goes to show you havn't got the first clue about the BBFC or how they function
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Do you have any knowledge of the way in which games are rated in the UK?
You mean like the ESRB jumped at the chance to rerate Oblivion 18 after mods were found or GTA to AO after Hot Coffee? What did the BBFC do? Nothing. Why? Because they didn't bow to the pressure and lies spread by papers and news stations over Oblivion (it being mods not actual content) and also even IF GTA *HAD* been released with the sex it in, it STILL would have gotten an 18 rating because we aren't all squeamish about sex this side of the pond.
Now go away and do some research on the BBFC and then come back.
If it did contain real sex then it would have been given a 18R rating meaning it could only be sold in 150 out of 325,000 retail outlets in the whole UK.
Otherwise known as 'sex shops'. (Bit more than 150 though.)
If by "real sex" you mean humping of cartoon characters that didn't even show genitals... no, it would have got an 18 cert still.
18R is only restricted to hardcore pornography. And 150 sex stores? Get real, Anne Summers is a licenced store thats allowed to sell R18 material and there is at least 150 of them in the UK alone.
I stand corrected on that, I did some further checking and although I can't find up to date stats, 120 stores was the figure for 2001. I could have sworn I seen R18 dvd's last time I was Anne Summers but it must have been plain ordinary 18 dvds.
Its just seems like such a low number when you consider the crazy volume of R18 material thats avalible (for example check out the recent BBFC classification decisions DVD section, there are on average two or three new R18 movies a day.)
Anyways, sorry for the mistake on my part.
If people had actually paid attention to the BBFC *before* Manhunt 2, they'd realise this behaviour is par for the course. Them not mentioning the drug references is nothing special - they would have played the game and therefore realised all such references were both allegorical and contextual.
Because the BBFC aren't silly.
I think this may be the biggest non story i have read unless it's a preamble to a ban coming in australia.
Basically this story says Fallout 3 gets an 18 certificate as expected. I don't recall hearing for a ban being called either.
Dennis:
You summary of the events of Manhunt 2 only succeed in furthering the miscomprehension of the work that the BBFC does in an almost tabloid-esque fashion. Can we stick to the facts please?
Can it be that everyone has run out of verbal napalm for these stories? A little of my faith in humanity has been restored! :P
Gift.
Good play BBFC!
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well, for once they have done something right
If by "for once" you mewan "the countless times outside observers fail to notice all the other BBFC 18-rated games" then, yes, i'd agree.
So much fail in this comment. No seriously, all of you US posters who had never heard of the BBFC until the Manhunt thing just really have no clue about things on this side of the pond.
Curiously, the only story in this story is the "curiously" paragraph that compares it to Australia. .
I'm not really surprised. besides here in the UK violence is considered bad. Whereas bad language and nudity, no problem! But someone said that makes us Liberal? No, it just means we're not bible bashing idiots!
Looks like I'll be importing from the UK again. Eat shit Atkinson.
In the original fallout 1/2 you could murder children while on drugs and that made it to the USA fine. Didn't turn anyone I know into a child killing jet addictSmile. Though I think the children had to be removed from the European version.
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