GoW Creator Defends Calling Sarah Palin a MILF

September 5, 2008 -

The other day I called out God of War creator David Jaffe for a vlog in which he referred to Republican VP candidate Sarah Palin as "the perfect definition of a MILF." (see: God of War Designer David Jaffe Reduces Sarah Palin Candidacy to Lowest Common Denominator).

Apparently, Jaffe took notice - and took the heat. He has posted a new video which addresses the MILF issue:

There's this website out there, pretty good website in terms most of the content it covers. Pretty smart and I'm glad it's out there. But it was like... this accusatory tone of me being sexist or crass when I called Sarah Palin a MILF. I'm like, Oh my, god! ...Your Victorian sensibilities are very easily offended... I'm not sexist. I have two little girls. I respect and love women. I think we're all pretty much equal...

 

And I think that's just really f*cking nit picking and ultra-politically correct to the point of just being absurd to assume that because I look at a woman and I say the only thing I can see she's good for is f*cking... It's not sexist because I'm not saying that's what I see in all women when I look at all women. I'm saying when I look at her, that's the only redeeming quality I can find in her...

While I concur with Jaffe's position that there are more questions than answers about Sarah Palin, he and I will have to disagree on this one. Referring to Palin in public statements as a MILF reduces her - reduces any woman - to the level of a sex object.

I certainly don't think he's a bad guy - far from it. But Jaffe needs to realize that the level of candor which may be acceptable in a frat house or local pub doesn't play quite so well when delivered as public, on-the-Net-forever commentary. As the head of a respected game design studio, Jaffe has employees (some of whom may be women) who could be offended. He has key business relationships with corporate types who by nature are not eager to hand a ready-made issue to special-interest groups. Is that politically correct? To an extent, sure. But that's the nature of business today.

Beyond that, however, there's just something wrong about reducing a woman to the sum of her body parts.


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Re: GoW Creator Defends Calling Sarah Palin a MILF

Dennis has opinions too.

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Re: GoW Creator Defends Calling Sarah Palin a MILF

I think he was just humorous. You shouldn't be so serious about it.

Re: GoW Creator Defends Calling Sarah Palin a MILF

 Wait a minute, why are we taking what David Jaffe is saying even remotely seriously? Is he a political leader? A religious leader? At least  a poli sci professor at a city college?

No, this is just the equivalent of some guy on the street. So why are we giving so much attention to him?

Re: GoW Creator Defends Calling Sarah Palin a MILF

More politically correct BS.  The constitution says nothing about a right never to be offended.  In fact controversial or distastful opinions is what the 1st amendment is there for. I am all for women getting equal pay for equal work and the equal opertunities, but damn, pull the stick out of your butt already.

How many people here have ever gotten porn, watched a stripper, or admired an attractive persons body?

Women, ever show cleavage or try to show off your legs? 

From the some of the comments at http://www.gamepolitics.com/2008/08/25/daily-kos-diarist-flashes-cleavag... I know several who are guilty as sin.

 

 

Re: GoW Creator Defends Calling Sarah Palin a MILF

I think a lot of people here need to loosen up and get over themselves. Sarah Palin being called a MILF is nicer than what most people have called her in the last week.

Re: GoW Creator Defends Calling Sarah Palin a MILF

Being a woman I was offended by David Jaffe calling Sarah Palin a MILF.  Just the fact that there is this woman holding a powerful office and all she can be equated to is a MILF.  Seriously! That’s all he could have thought of.  Now she is on an even playing field with Britney Spears! Wow! That is great because I want someone in high office to be equated with Britney Spears. How come no one makes these comments about Condoleezza Rice, or any other women holding some sort of powerful position while we are at it? I don’t remember anyone calling Hillary a MILF.  Maybe the Republicans should run with that “The Maverick and the MILF” could be their slogan.

 

Not that I am defending Sarah Palin because I do not agree with her views and beliefs, but on the core fact that she and I are both women.  It just disappoints me because I am working my way into the gaming industry and I was just hoping for something more than this from someone who hold a position like David Jaffe.

Re: GoW Creator Defends Calling Sarah Palin a MILF

How are you not defending Sarah Palin?

The man says that the only redeeming quality about her is that she's attractive and you bash him for expressing that opinion whilst ignoring the logic he uses to come to that conclusion.

Oh and by the way which seems more sexist, Jaffe bashing a women he doesn't like or you automatically coming to said women's aide only because she is a woman?

If I strated saying that Biden was the ugliest person I've ever seen would you come rushing to his aide? How about if I called him attractive?

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Re: GoW Creator Defends Calling Sarah Palin a MILF

What's with the "I was hoping for something more than this from someone who hold a position like David Jaffe."  You were hoping more from a video game designer?  Are video game designers supposed to be models of paragon virtue?  He makes violent video games (and darn good ones at that), if the guy wasn't a little crass his games wouldn't have a quarter of the personality that makes them great.

Here's a little newsflash for you and everyone else who thinks for some odd reason that Jaffe is supposed to be Mother Teresa: many, many of the best creative minds in history were flawed individuals.  They were sexists, racists, addicts, sociopaths - not to extremes, but not without some vitriolic personality traits. Find me a great author or a director that has never uttered anything that can be construed as offensive and I'll show you a person who works on non-fiction.  I find the idea that he should be held to some exacting politically correct standard because he's a game designer utterly ridiculous.  As long as he doesn't discriminate in the workplace, and there's absolutely nothing here to suggest he does, his personality is a non-issue.

Second newsflash: holding a public office, unfortunately, doesn't in and of itself make a person worthy of respect.  Some of the most fantastically stupid and narrowminded people I've met worked in some level of public office.  Political success is often more about money, charm, and connections than it is about intelligence.

Re: GoW Creator Defends Calling Sarah Palin a MILF

You don't remember anyone calling Hillary a MILF for obvious reasons. >_> Sarah Palin is a lot more attractive than Hillary ever was, it has nothing to do with a position of power, get a grip.

Re: GoW Creator Defends Calling Sarah Palin a MILF

Ah, then clearly you don't know enough about David Jaffe. Because 1) He is not "the industry" nor does he speak for us/it.  2) It's David Jaffe, creator of Twisted Metal 2 and God of War, he's an ass, it's what he does. He does it well. 3) Unfortunately, if you are expecting more from 'higher ups' than this, you've got a lot to learn about legacy veterans of the gaming industry.

Not that I'm defending him, mind you, just saying.

Re: GoW Creator Defends Calling Sarah Palin a MILF

I hate how much white knighting geeks do. jesus christ. Hell, I'd say it's pretty sexist to think that women need YOU to stand up for all of them.

Re: GoW Creator Defends Calling Sarah Palin a MILF

I'd like to think I'm just offering a small glimmer of reason, but hey, call it what you want.

Also, no-one here said that they are standing up for women. Not a one.

Re: GoW Creator Defends Calling Sarah Palin a MILF

I like the accusations of being un-PC for referring to her as a MILF then turning around and using stereotypes to define the type of people that would use such a term.  Big fan of people who don't realize the hypocrisy in their statements.  Keep it up GP!

Re: GoW Creator Defends Calling Sarah Palin a MILF

Are you kidding me?? Was it a slow news day, or you have nothing better to do but turn on the people and the industry you are suppose to be supporting??

The guy made a statement and that was it, grow up and cover things that are relevant, and not the BS like this, I think this is a pathetic news story.

I come here to read pertinent informative news, if I wanted to read articles like this, I would go but the star or other tabloid publications. Please get back to what you know best, and leave this to the tabloids

Re: GoW Creator Defends Calling Sarah Palin a MILF

No kidding. I don't need to see GP try to act like the guys mother and shake his finger at him

Re: GoW Creator Defends Calling Sarah Palin a MILF

"...he and I will have to disagree on this one. Referring to Palin in public statements as a MILF reduces her - reduces any woman - to the level of a sex object."

Looks down the page two articles below this one.

Yes, it's much better to stereotype and insult her as being a backwoods alaskan. Thanks for showing the world where that line is GP.

Re: GoW Creator Defends Calling Sarah Palin a MILF

I tend to agree with Dennis.  It is a sexist remark.  Now, in certain contexts, it would be fine to be a little sexist.  She is, after all, very attractive.  But I don't think saying she's a "MILF" publicly is the right time or way to go about it.  Whether you agree or disagree with Palin's validity as a VP canidate (which I personally don't), she still deserves more respect than to be publicly reduced to a sex object by a semi-well known business man.  I think David Jaffe is a bit out of touch if he doesn't get why his comments were crude and not appropriate for someone in his position.

Re: GoW Creator Defends Calling Sarah Palin a MILF

I agree with Dennis, any politician who can successfully defend her small Alaskan town from a vampire invasion deserves to be referred to as something far more respectful. >:.>

Hey!

Does that mean if you don't like Palin you are a sexist?Just like if you don't like Obama you're racist?(joke)

 

As for Jaffe calling her a MILF,I say....................BIG FREAKING DEAL.

For every person calling her a MILF(ever been to Fark?),there are probably doing way worse.What about the people calling Obama racial epithets?I can gurantee you there are people who are calling her even worse than a MILF(not me,of course).Oh,and she isn't trying to lead,that's McCain and Obama.Just like people are calling Obama worse than any nickname he has(not me,again).Holy frick,so he doesn't like her?Loads of people don't.I personally like her,even though I am a Libertarian I support McCain because the rest of my party wants to cut and run from Iraq(yes,I am aware they,Iraq, want a timetable for withdrawal now.I'm skeptical,but if they want us out,then we should go.Besides,we recently handed over Anbar).

SO he made a sexist statement?There will always be sexism in the world,just there will always be war,racism,violence ect.Just the way the world works,and it will remain that way for ever.The Earth will always be a sucky place,and there will always be people that will say things like that.Get used to it.

Re: GoW Creator Defends Calling Sarah Palin a MILF

I think the solution to this is very simple:  If you don't like what David Jaffe says, don't read his blog.  No one forces you to go there.  Aside from the fact of this story being pretty much completely irrelevant to what this site covers (other than a game designer said something about a political figure, something which tons of other non-game designers do all the time), its ridiculous to be picking a fight with Jaffe over a trivial comment that was completely overblown.  I have nothing but respect for Dennis and what he does here but this is just not up to the standards I think he's tried to establish.  Every time someone in gaming says something about someone political doesn't automatically equal news related to the cause of what politicians are trying to do to video games.

Re: GoW Creator Defends Calling Sarah Palin a MILF

I was going to write a post along those lines but upon reading yours it appears you've said everything I would have. There's a pretty clear line between reporting on the news and making the news, but I'm inclined to think that on this issue GP has stepped over that line. When an article starts with "The other day I called out" and then attempts to get into a slapfight over personal opinions it's just not professional any more. This place is either an outlet for serious journalism or a blog. It can't be both at the same time.

Re: GoW Creator Defends Calling Sarah Palin a MILF

You, my friend, win the cookie of the day. Seriously.

Re: GoW Creator Defends Calling Sarah Palin a MILF

He's been up to his no-good sexist shenanigans ever since god of war. Remember how many titties were hangin' out in that? As if women had never heard of clothes before the turn of the century. What a SEXIST PIG. HOW DARE HE SAY MILF WHEN TALKING ABOUT A VEEP.

 

P.S. stop getting your panties in a bunch

Re: GoW Creator Defends Calling Sarah Palin a MILF

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic but in case of you aren't the ancient greeks considered the nude body to be a thing of beauty and most of the tits in the game were on monsters not humans.

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Re: GoW Creator Defends Calling Sarah Palin a MILF

It was totally sarcasm, fyi.

Re: GoW Creator Defends Calling Sarah Palin a MILF

She really hasn't done much other than look cute for the cameras though...excluding what she did in Alaska of course...

 

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Re: GoW Creator Defends Calling Sarah Palin a MILF

If it helps you guys he retracted that statement in the video.

GP where's your mentioning of that eh?

EDIT: Oh and he also has some political criticism of Palin and basically says something along the lines of: I can't look at her and see someone who can lead the free world I look at her and see someone who's only good at f'ng. It was an attack on her personally, nothing more.

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Re: GoW Creator Defends Calling Sarah Palin a MILF

Oh my God a man made an offside comment that judged a women based off her body, quick somebody call the PC police we need to turn this into a big deal pronto.

---------------------------------------------------- Debates are like merry go rounds. Two people take their positions then they go through the same points over and over and over again. Then when it's over they have the same positions they started in.

Re: GoW Creator Defends Calling Sarah Palin a MILF

Only further proving this guy's a Class A douchebag.

And anyone who has played the crass God of War should not be surprised by his comments.

Re: GoW Creator Defends Calling Sarah Palin a MILF

So he doesn't like Plain and that makes him a douchebag?

---------------------------------------------------- Debates are like merry go rounds. Two people take their positions then they go through the same points over and over and over again. Then when it's over they have the same positions they started in.

Re: GoW Creator Defends Calling Sarah Palin a MILF

"I'm saying when I look at her, that's the only redeeming quality I can find in her"

^that does. It's offensive, no matter how you cut it. I don't particularly like Palin, but that's just pure sexism.

Re: GoW Creator Defends Calling Sarah Palin a MILF

So in other words if someone asked him to name three things he liked about Palin his response would more or less be

"She's sexy ... and I can't think of anything else."

It's an insult to Plain no doubt (and someone insulting Palin or Biden shouldn't come as a shock to anyone) but it sure as hell isn't sexism.  If you watch the clip all the way through he mentions reasons why he doesn't like her.

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Re: GoW Creator Defends Calling Sarah Palin a MILF

And if he'd have said that, we wouldn't be having this conversation. You can spin his comments as much as you like, but they are, and were offensive.

Come to think of it, you should probably apply to be his PR spokesman from now on, because the man clearly can't be trusted to do it himself! :D

Re: GoW Creator Defends Calling Sarah Palin a MILF

Uh, no. Not really. Besides, he could be wrong, she may actually be a terrible lay and have no redeeming qualities, right? I mean, yeah, she's sorta hot in the librarian kinda of way...but technically her only redeeming quality may be her looks, and in fact, not her ability to fuck. I guess we'd have to ask her husband that?

That said, you guys are being far too PC (if being PC isn't stupid enough). He can say what he wants on his personal blog. You don't have to watch it. This is America, for now. And the only connection here to video games is that he is a person who works with them? Ok, so he's a lead developer? So, this is his personal blog. Deal with it.

Re: GoW Creator Defends Calling Sarah Palin a MILF

So if Barack Obama said in his private blog that he wanted to kill every Iraqi man, woman, and child that would be ok, because it's his personal blog?

If you say something stupid, people may call you out. If you say it on the internet, you're going to get ripped a new one.

Re: GoW Creator Defends Calling Sarah Palin a MILF

In my opinion someone's personal life shouldn't have to be explained and accounted for in his proffesional life, so in that retrospect I really don't see your rationale for putting this up as sufficient.

It wasn't newsworthy Dennis. Although I guess if someone says the only redeeming quality of a VP is that they look attractive it can be taken as quite an insult.

Oh and saying a woman's attractive does not reduce her to a sex object. If I said I think a women was intelligent does that reduce her to nothing but a brain? How about if comment only on her sense of humor or hair color, or some other attribute.

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Re: GoW Creator Defends Calling Sarah Palin a MILF

You're missing the point, he didn't simply say 'she's attractive'.  He said 'the only thing I think she's good for is f*cking'.  That is reducing her to a sex object in his eyes, and publicly stating it.

Re: GoW Creator Defends Calling Sarah Palin a MILF

Ok that's his personal opinion of one particular women, whoop de do. Why does it need to be discussed here?

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Re: GoW Creator Defends Calling Sarah Palin a MILF

Because this is now a news gaming blog centered on gaming and politics, if it was not a politician a dev was talking about it would not have been posted.

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Re: GoW Creator Defends Calling Sarah Palin a MILF

Because Dennis brought it here, and it involves video games.

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Re: GoW Creator Defends Calling Sarah Palin a MILF

Barely.

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Re: GoW Creator Defends Calling Sarah Palin a MILF

While what you say is true, my assessment holds truth as well.

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Re: GoW Creator Defends Calling Sarah Palin a MILF

The only assertion you've proven is that you selectively neglected the part where he originally asked someone to explain to him her value as a candidate because of the way she has been presented to the public.

Re: GoW Creator Defends Calling Sarah Palin a MILF

I have a distaste for the comment, but he can call her whatever he wants to. Nothing wrong with that.

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Re: GoW Creator Defends Calling Sarah Palin a MILF

You guys are being way too uptight about this. There is absolutely nothing wrong with calling her a MILF (actually, "GILF" would be more accurate). I mean, good grief... lighten up, people.

Re: GoW Creator Defends Calling Sarah Palin a MILF

Don't see the problem at all.. she'd probably be flattered.  It was even said on prime time TV in the UK just yesterday.

 

Re: GoW Creator Defends Calling Sarah Palin a MILF

 Oh and just to add to the level of satire that show has, they also described John McCain by saying

"He could be the first president thats assasinated by somebody bursting a paper bag"

Re: GoW Creator Defends Calling Sarah Palin a MILF

I have to say that really made me laugh, can you please tell me what the name of the show is.

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Re: GoW Creator Defends Calling Sarah Palin a MILF

I missed that one, but it sounds like Mock the Week. Seek it out and enjoy it. Even when they're not discussing American politics, it's one of the highlights of telly.

(For those in the know about this sort of thing, Mock the Week is Have I Got News For You with standup comics, so it's less newsy and more brash.)

Re: GoW Creator Defends Calling Sarah Palin a MILF

 Yes it was Mock The Week. Great show, definitely worth watching.

Created by the creators of Whose Line Is It Anyway?

I'm surprised this kind of show isn't more popular in the United States. Cheap to make and funny as hell!

 
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