Games Violence Debate Lampooned by Web Comic

September 8, 2008 -

Sharp-eyed GamePolitics correspondent Andrew Eisen spotted this cartoon on Dork Tower.

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Re: Games Violence Debate Lampooned by Web Comic

I know it was made in 2001 same year as something else that happened around that time in this time of the year. But allas, the Videogames were being attacked back then, and the same situration is here now. REAL voilence in the REAL problem, not Videogames, movies or RPGs.

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Should point out the "2001" on the comic, folks. I've had it up in my cubicle for some time too.

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Then I guess there's an opening for a Jesus, dinosaur and so on comment.

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Whoa, good find, Andrew.

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Re: Games Violence Debate Lampooned by Web Comic

I prefer a different 4th panel:

Kid (dog?):  "My pastor says the Bible tells us <fill in the blank> are going to Hell because they don't believe in what we believe in."

Dressed up dude:  "A very wise, moral pastor you have there.  Be sure to tell those <fill in the blank> that they are going to Hell too.  It is, after all, your Freedom of Speech, not to mention your duty as a Christian, to beat them down in every way possible."

Nightwng2000

NW2K Software

Nightwng2000 has also updated his MySpace page: http://www.myspace.com/nightwing2000 Nightwng2000 is now admin to the group "Parents For Education, Not Legislation" on MySpace as http://groups.myspace.com/pfenl

Nightwng2000 NW2K Software http://www.facebook.com/nightwing2000 Nightwng2000 is now admin to the group "Parents For Education, Not Legislation" on MySpace as http://groups.myspace.com/pfenl

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Nice one. Those kinds of people make Jack look like a... um... I can't think of something to compare him to when compared to those kinds of people.

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Re: Games Violence Debate Lampooned by Web Comic

Tell us, Dennis.  If ideas have no consequences, if what we put into our skulls has no effect on anything, then why do you run  a web site?  Why do you do advertising on that web site?  Hmmmm? 

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I'd like to see what version of Gamepolitics you're looking at, because this one has no ads that would be harmful. Let me see on the side as i post this...

Various Gaming Ratings/Watchdog/Convention/Consumer Groups
ECA Sites
Rock The Vote

Now... what exactly are you trying to day is BAD out of all those?

Oh, and he's not saying that media has NO affect on the mind whatsoever. That's what YOU said. Not him. What matters is the AMOUNT it affects it. You're acting like it's the Matrix, when on planet earth, you get as much affect from reading the sunday paper.

Literacy: 10,000
John Bruce: 0

David "DavCube" Gagnon, Sane Human Being (not a compulsive liar) and you're NOT.

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I swear to the shortest buses in the land you are a moron.

Right you see when someone runs a site such as this one it is NOT for mind control.  But rather people can gather the facts and under their OWN FREE WILL.  Decide how to act upon that.  But of course you live in some sort of twisted society where a person is under 24/7 mind control and needs media to tell them before they do the slightest actions like breathe and blink.

 

For your sake I do hope you have a video game about wiping your ass in your bathroom.

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Tell us, Dennis.  If ideas have no consequences, if what we put into our skulls has no effect on anything, then why do you run  a web site?  Why do you do advertising on that web site?  Hmmmm?

There is so much fail here I can't even describe it >.<

Re: Games Violence Debate Lampooned by Web Comic

Where has Dennis inferred that ideas have no consequences or influences? Besides, there are degrees of consequences. There are big consequences and there are little (non-threatening) consequences.

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Unless it's for the ECA or a charity, I never see ads at all.

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Jack, you've been asked so many times. Shut the hell up already.

Shadow and "Fignirf"

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Re: Games Violence Debate Lampooned by Web Comic

What are you talking about? What advertising? I haven't seen any GamePolitics advertising on Dork Tower.

Perhaps you should read BmK's reply. He summed it up nicely. It is all about choice. The person must choose to act out their violent thoughts. Video games do not force anyone's hands.

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I saw a similar comic strip, with someone publishing news headlines saying "GTA for PSP responsible for tiny-sized petty theft".

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Anyone who believes that violent media directly causes violence in society is deluded. Yes, it is true that media influences us by shaping our thoughts and feelings and gives us ideas an inspiration BUT it is up to the individual who consumes that media whether or not to take the ideas and inspirations brought from that media to real actions. This is where media differs from truely harmful things like alcohol and cigerettes which are rightfully regulated.

If you drink enough booze, you'll get drunk. You can't choose to drink shot of rye after rye and not get drunk from doing so. It's beyond your control.

If you smoke cigerettes, you have a high chance of getting health related problems like cancer and Emphysema. You can't choose to smoke and not get those problems. It's beyond your control.

If a person play violent video game after violent video game, it COULD shape his or her thoughts and feeling in a negative manner BUT that person chooses to turn those thoughts and feeling into actions. It is totally in that person control.
 

Essencially if we were to restrict or censor Free Speech because some individual out there could be negatively effected by some book, movie, song or video game then we might as well just amend the constitution to remove that part of the First Amendment altogether because the sole purpose of Free Speech is that is does shape our thoughts and feelings and gives us ideas and inspirations and the government should not be able to interfere with this. If they did, it would be in essence a form of mind and thought control (by withholding the flow of ideas, information, messages, opinons and viewpoints from the public) which in the hands of government can end up very, very dangerous.

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BmK writes: "If a person play violent video game after violent video game, it COULD shape his or her thoughts and feeling in a negative manner BUT that person chooses to turn those thoughts and feeling into actions. It is totally in that person control."

Well, the anti-video game folks would take issue with that statement.  They tend to think that acting out violently after playing a violent videogame is indeed beyond the control of certain impressionable players.  However, they have yet to cite a single legitimate peer-reviewed study that backs up their viewpoint.

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It is practically out of control for people with certain psychological disorders ranging from schizophrenia to a few forms of psychopathy, but why on earth anyone associated with the person would allow them to play video games such as these is beyond me.

People have the darndest time making the distinction between every normal tom, dick, and harry, and the 0.1% of americans with schizophrenia that include sharp disruptions between reality and fantasy that could present such a horrendous problem.

It's fairly obvious who these people are, since you have to be at an advanced state of Schizophrenia for these symptoms to present a problem. If someone comes into gamestop wanting to buy GTA, talking about the street lights talking to him about how great a game this is and that it will help protect him from the CIA... then goes on a rant about why the letter C is better than A... DO NOT SELL THEM THE GAME!!!!!

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failed attempt at humor due to a missunderstanding

People who are against media may vote for the same party (despite more democrat proposed bills for game bans) as people that are against firearms restrictions, but they aren't the same people.  It is like saying saying every democrat is in PETA.  It isn't funny unless you don't understand.  

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Conservative politicians are pro-censorship and pro-guns. This comic is satire. It is funny.

Re: Games Violence Debate Lampooned by Web Comic

The concept of "family values" is a core tenet of Republican politics, and so is opposition to gun control measures. This comic makes fun of both positions on the basis of that connection.

Re: Games Violence Debate Lampooned by Web Comic

Maybe you took the joke way too seriously.

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I concur to that point. It's meant to be a statement of an issue, not protest or a war.

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Just to clarify, I was agreeing to the statement: "Maybe you took the joke way too seriously."

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 If someone is so devoted to fighting something they should know at least know what they are fighting.  

It is only funny to blind men with hammers.

Re: Games Violence Debate Lampooned by Web Comic

No, you mean it's funny to watch blind men swing hammers.  It's ok.  Freudian slip, we all know.

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Hilarious and sadly somewhat true -_-

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Yes exept for the fact that no one will admit that one of the major stress relievers in our society today for our more violently attuned, though not violently acting, country men and women is to fire up the system, find your favorite wargame and with the power of your IMAGINATION fire a full clip of Fam-as rounds into a pixlated [insert name here] while shouting "You want the report!? Here's your f***ing report!" And when that's all out of your system, calling your mates, and hitting the bars.

So yes, let's take away all of the stress relief of popping a cap in your bosses virtual ass and give everyone guns. Then when that day finally comes, when you just gotta "fix the problem". You can always claim EED (Extreme Emotional Disturbance) or throw an insanity plea up at your murder 2 trial.

 

Much love

~Zephemus

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You left out "LoL!". Are you ok?

 
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