Submitted by Zaruka (not verified) on Mon, 09/08/2008 - 16:57.
nintendo as always been a kid company i know that and so does everone else yet i still play mario, zeld, metroid, and other nintendo prodocts becuse there so fun and good and i will keep playing lucky i get my hardcore fix so to say from pc and my xbox 360. then back to mario on my wii lol
Submitted by Cortex (not verified) on Mon, 09/08/2008 - 16:28.
Personally I think this whole "ZOMG N1TEND0 ABANDONZ US, IM SELLING MA WII" bandwagon is BS. I've actually got games on the Wii to look forward to including Wario Land:Shake It and Madworld. In fact, I play both the Wii and 360 equally (SSBB on Wii and GTA4 on 360, but they're not the only games I have).
Besides, today's Casual crowd can later become Core in the future.
Submitted by ZippyDSMlee on Mon, 09/08/2008 - 13:21.
Meh the new demographic of gamers are the casual core they waff from media whores who'll buy anything and simi hardcore gamers that will buy anything, the trouble is when you buy anything the industry will crank out crap because it can.
Not calling the WII crappy no... calling the whole 8th generation crappy, when games were made for enthusiasts at least you got twice the entertainment for the moeny now you'll lucky to break even...
I really wish publishes would slow down and put more polish/quality in their arse products...
Submitted by DraginHikari (not verified) on Mon, 09/08/2008 - 23:04.
You don't really understand the nature of a market like this. You see during the Gamecube era Nintendo tried to do what you are stating. But for the last few generations, Nintnedo wasn't able to confront what Sony and Microsoft had in the bag with alot of what the hardcore gamers want.
But Nintendo has come back because they decided to try on a new approach with a different audiance. I hear many 'hardcore' people shout at the Wii as a failure. But that's a narrow prespective, I hardly considering several things of there that sells out continously really marked as a failure really.
Submitted by JustChris on Mon, 09/08/2008 - 12:06.
But it's still ironic that, even though Nintendo's underwhelming E3 press conference was made for just that, the press ( and therefore they want to see big marketing ideas make their way to every joe American that reads the newspaper) it's only the hardcore, long-time Nintendo gamers that camp by their computer monitors to watch the conference.
Submitted by lordlundar on Mon, 09/08/2008 - 10:18.
either you're missing your sarcasm tags, or your missing the point.
If you're serious, consider this; for every "hardcore" person leaving nintendo because they feel jilted, there's 5 new people going to it because its welcoming to them.
Now consider that. Sony and Microsoft, who are intent on catering to the "hardcore" are having a steadily decreasing population, as to cater to them requires more expensive equipment which is reaching the point where it can't be affordable. Nintendo on the other hand, with being welcoming to all players and focusing on the new people, have a steadily increasing market.
Submitted by E. Zachary Knight on Mon, 09/08/2008 - 10:28.
I should also add, that the reason they lost me, was because the games I liked to play went to the PS1. NOw that I am older, have a job and a family, my gaming tastes have changed as well as my budget. I no longer have the time to play the types of games I use to nor the money to buy them. The Wii has brought to me something that fits my time, my budget and my family.
Sure I would like to see more story based games. They are coming and there are currently plenty available.
Monte: trolls are just at their absolute worst when it comes to women and feminist. You could bet good money that if the developer were male the trolls would be silent and the conversation would actually focus on the journalism.10/18/2014 - 9:18pm
Monte: Papa: Not the first time we've had a journalism scandals before, but the harassment never got close to this level; the difference with this scandal is that feminists are involved. Without the feminist angle, their would be A LOT less harrassment10/18/2014 - 9:15pm
Papa Midnight: Monte: That's honestly rather short-sighted. As has been proven with other persons who have been targeted, if it wasn't Quinn, it would be someone else.10/18/2014 - 6:26pm
Avalongod: I think that's part of what gives an esoteric news story like this real life...it taps into a larger narrative about misogyny in society outside of games.10/18/2014 - 3:29pm
Avalongod: @Monte, well the trolls made death threats that came to police (and media attention). I think this is tapping into a larger issue outside of games about how women are treated in society (like all the "real rape" stuff during the last election)10/18/2014 - 3:28pm
Monte: Seirously, If Quinn was not involved and GG was instead about something like the Mordor Marketing contracts, the trolling would have never grown so vile and disgusting. There have been plenty of movements in the past that never sufferred from behavior..10/18/2014 - 1:57pm
Monte: We have seen scandel's before but the trolling has never been as vile as what we see with GG. Trolls usually have such a tiny voice you can barely notice them, but its like moths to a flame whenever femistist are involved.10/18/2014 - 1:53pm
ZippyDSMlee: Wonderkarp: You might be able to if you had a PS4 controller.10/18/2014 - 1:00pm
MaskedPixelante: http://store.steampowered.com/app/327940/ Night Dive starts charging for freeware.10/18/2014 - 12:21pm
Matthew Wilson: the sad thing is there are trolls on both sides of this. people need to stop acting like their side is so pure.10/18/2014 - 12:19pm
MechaTama31: So, only speak out on a scandal that hasn't attracted trolls? I wouldn't hold my breath...10/18/2014 - 10:49am
Monte: I feel like GG just needs to die. The movement is FAR to tainted by hatred and BS for it to be useful for any conversation. Let GG die, and then rally behind the NEXT gaming journalism scandal, and start the conversation fresh.10/18/2014 - 10:33am
quiknkold: and we dont have a Dovakin to call a cease fire10/17/2014 - 7:37pm
quiknkold: The whole thing is Futile. Both sides are so buried deep in their trenchs that there isnt a conversation. Its just Finger Pointing, Name Calling, Doxxing, Threats. there needs to be a serious conversation, and GG isnt it.10/17/2014 - 7:37pm
quiknkold: I thought it was a good article. Jeff is right. I feel like GamerGate did destroy its message. I am for Ethics in game journalism, but man. so much hate. and its on both sides. I've seen some awful stuff spewed on twitter. Its a big reason why I exited..10/17/2014 - 7:34pm
Matthew Wilson: while he focused on gg, he did call out both sides crap.10/17/2014 - 7:18pm
Papa Midnight: That was a damn good read offered by Jeff Gertsmann.10/17/2014 - 7:17pm
Matthew Wilson: http://www.giantbomb.com/articles/letter-from-the-editor-10-17-2014/1100-5049/ deferentially a nice write up.10/17/2014 - 6:44pm
james_fudge: I think Evan killed it. He's a great guy and super smart.10/17/2014 - 6:38pm
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Re: Nintendo Makes a Splash at 50+ Expo
nintendo as always been a kid company i know that and so does everone else yet i still play mario, zeld, metroid, and other nintendo prodocts becuse there so fun and good and i will keep playing lucky i get my hardcore fix so to say from pc and my xbox 360. then back to mario on my wii lol
Thanks.
Zaruka
Re: Nintendo Makes a Splash at 50+ Expo
Personally I think this whole "ZOMG N1TEND0 ABANDONZ US, IM SELLING MA WII" bandwagon is BS. I've actually got games on the Wii to look forward to including Wario Land:Shake It and Madworld. In fact, I play both the Wii and 360 equally (SSBB on Wii and GTA4 on 360, but they're not the only games I have).
Besides, today's Casual crowd can later become Core in the future.
Re: Nintendo Makes a Splash at 50+ Expo
Meh the new demographic of gamers are the casual core they waff from media whores who'll buy anything and simi hardcore gamers that will buy anything, the trouble is when you buy anything the industry will crank out crap because it can.
Not calling the WII crappy no... calling the whole 8th generation crappy, when games were made for enthusiasts at least you got twice the entertainment for the moeny now you'll lucky to break even...
I really wish publishes would slow down and put more polish/quality in their arse products...
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Re: Nintendo Makes a Splash at 50+ Expo
ugh, who cares about the 50+ crowd nintendo? what you should focus on is your hardcore crowd, this is why im going to sony =/
Re: Nintendo Makes a Splash at 50+ Expo
50+ has money to burn. That's why everyone cares.
Re: Nintendo Makes a Splash at 50+ Expo
You don't really understand the nature of a market like this. You see during the Gamecube era Nintendo tried to do what you are stating. But for the last few generations, Nintnedo wasn't able to confront what Sony and Microsoft had in the bag with alot of what the hardcore gamers want.
But Nintendo has come back because they decided to try on a new approach with a different audiance. I hear many 'hardcore' people shout at the Wii as a failure. But that's a narrow prespective, I hardly considering several things of there that sells out continously really marked as a failure really.
Re: Nintendo Makes a Splash at 50+ Expo
But it's still ironic that, even though Nintendo's underwhelming E3 press conference was made for just that, the press ( and therefore they want to see big marketing ideas make their way to every joe American that reads the newspaper) it's only the hardcore, long-time Nintendo gamers that camp by their computer monitors to watch the conference.
Re: Nintendo Makes a Splash at 50+ Expo
either you're missing your sarcasm tags, or your missing the point.
If you're serious, consider this; for every "hardcore" person leaving nintendo because they feel jilted, there's 5 new people going to it because its welcoming to them.
Now consider that. Sony and Microsoft, who are intent on catering to the "hardcore" are having a steadily decreasing population, as to cater to them requires more expensive equipment which is reaching the point where it can't be affordable. Nintendo on the other hand, with being welcoming to all players and focusing on the new people, have a steadily increasing market.
Re: Nintendo Makes a Splash at 50+ Expo
Funny you should say that. Nintendo lost me with the N64/PS1 generation. They have actually won me back with this genereation.
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Re: Nintendo Makes a Splash at 50+ Expo
I should also add, that the reason they lost me, was because the games I liked to play went to the PS1. NOw that I am older, have a job and a family, my gaming tastes have changed as well as my budget. I no longer have the time to play the types of games I use to nor the money to buy them. The Wii has brought to me something that fits my time, my budget and my family.
Sure I would like to see more story based games. They are coming and there are currently plenty available.
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