Fallout 3 to Ship Worldwide with Cuts Made for Australian Censors

September 9, 2008 -

Until a few minutes ago, only Australian gamers assumed that they'd be getting an edited version of the hotly-anticipated Fallout 3. HoweverEdge Online has learned that everyone will be getting what we might call "the Australian cut."

GamePolitics readers will recall that specific references to morphine as an in-game power-up initially caused Australia to nix Fallout 3. After changes were made, the game was authorized for sale Down Under with an MA15+ rating, Australia's most restrictive.

The EO report quotes Bethesda's PR exec Pete Hines:

We want to make sure folks understand that the Australian version of Fallout 3 is identical to both the UK and North American versions in every way, on every platform.

 

An issue was raised concerning references to real world, proscribed drugs in the game, and we subsequently removed those references and replaced them with fictional names. To avoid confusion among people in different territories, we decided to make those substitutions in all versions of the game, in all territories.

 

I didn't want people continuing to assume the version in Australia was some altered version when it's not. There are no references to real world drugs in any version of Fallout 3.

Nothing like waiting until the last minute, eh? Fallout 3 ships next week.

GP: Thanks to Just Chris for the heads-up!


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Re: Fallout 3 to Ship Worldwide with Cuts Made for Australian

Because I don't have to go through the extra effort of going through getting what the rest of the world plays or wondering what else was cut out for us from the rest of the world's copy... I would much rather have what the developers intended but in this case we all get the same thing... sadly... don't get me wrong though, I would much rather be able to import a "real" copy but at least now Australians don't feel as cheated as we normally do...

 

Re: Fallout 3 to Ship Worldwide with Cuts Made for Australian

Funny, I was planning to import the game due to these cuts. I did not want to walk into my local EB/GAME/JB and buy "The Australian Cut".

Way to go guys! You just caved into Atkinson's censorship!

Idiots

Re: Fallout 3 to Ship Worldwide with Cuts Made for Australian

I don't have any plans to get the game, but I know a few friends who are eagerly looking forward to playing Fallout 3 and I know they're not going to be happy with this news...

Hm, if Fallout 3 eventually comes to Steam or other download services, does that mean they'll be able to provide the uncut version?

Re: Fallout 3 to Ship Worldwide with Cuts Made for Australian

Bethesda essentially just allowed the OFLC to dictate a content change for the rest of the world.

Very disturbing.  I hope this does not become a trend.

 

Andrew Eisen

Re: Fallout 3 to Ship Worldwide with Cuts Made for Australian

They should take this newfound power for a test drive...

"We hereby demand that every Crocodile Dundee movie in existence, in any form, be scourged from the planet. Furthermore, we demand that we receive royalty rights for every Outback Steakhouse franchise in existence and in perpetuity and from every can of Foster’s Beer sold. As it has been written, so shall it be done.”

Re: Fallout 3 to Ship Worldwide with Cuts Made for Australian

Oh the irony.  All of the trailers for Fallout 3 show off tremendous amounds of gore.  There is even a particular skill that enables more-than-normal amounts of gore.

Words relating to opium products: OMFG TERRIBLE DOWNFALL OF SOCIETY

An enemy NPC's head flying off leaving a trail of gore: much more tolerable

Re: Fallout 3 to Ship Worldwide with Cuts Made for Australian

Dear Bethesda,

FUCK YOU.

Re: Fallout 3 to Ship Worldwide with Cuts Made for Australian

Please we shouldn't be focusing our anger at Bethesda!

We should be focusing our anger at uptight Australia that makes America look like Berlin's Love Festival!

Re: Fallout 3 to Ship Worldwide with Cuts Made for Australian

Fair enough.

Also, what happened to the Australia that was a penal colony where everything was legal and people were rude and fun?  Are they trying to act like the uptight British?

Re: Fallout 3 to Ship Worldwide with Cuts Made for Australian

Nerd rage


Re: Fallout 3 to Ship Worldwide with Cuts Made for Australian

Always an ULTIMATE Fail. *facepalm*

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Re: Fallout 3 to Ship Worldwide with Cuts Made for Australian

I thought Fallout 3 came out the end of October, not next week. . .

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3169488

Re: Fallout 3 to Ship Worldwide with Cuts Made for Australian

I understand the reasoning behind it. To compensate for them having to change names in some places, they had to change them everywhere, or message board discussions and such would not make sense to Austalian gamers. However, I wish they had not made the game and in turn motivated gamers in Australia to fight for the 18+ rating they so obviously need.

I know this isn't a big deal but it makes the game that little bit worse and it annoys me.

Re: Fallout 3 to Ship Worldwide with Cuts Made for Australian

Do you really think that if they only changed it for Australian gamers, that they'd be screwed up in message board discussions? Do you really think Australians to be that stupid? Names and crap get altered all the time from one local to another. I've yet to see that actually cause problems in understanding who was talking about what in anyone that wasn't either terminally stupid or trolling.

-Gray17

Re: Fallout 3 to Ship Worldwide with Cuts Made for Australian

While it won't change gameplay it's still a victory for the censors.  It's sad that Bethesda gave in to pressure. 

Re: Fallout 3 to Ship Worldwide with Cuts Made for Australian

First up, i'm Australian, so that may color what i'm saying.

But, "victory for the censors?" correct me if i'm wrong, but we are talking about Government Employees, or at least individuals who assess games, movies and literature in accordance with guidelines given to them by a governing body. In the case of Australia, USA and the UK, all are democarcies, and thus those guidelines are subject to change. The problem is that we, gamers, don't generally get up and make a big stink over ratings and censorship in ways that are conducive to how democracies work.

Face facts: there are people who have gotten into power by popular choice, and they are governing by the values they advertised, or were generally known to hold. There is a dramatically large movement of fundamental christians who don't like what they see, and that is why these people are getting into power. Its our own fault, liberals (and i don't mean the kind that votes for the Australian Liberal party [they are conservatives]) tend not to vote. In Australia we are required to vote, we have no excuse. There appears to be a large body of people who want these conservative measures. Yes we got Labor in power this term, but what we PLAY is not really the first thing on their agenda.

Personally, i want an 18+ rating in Australia, not so Fallout3 can get through unscathed, but so that games like Ninja Gaiden2 and GTA4 can be rated to be Adult Only games, which can still be bought by adults.

Games are interactive, and it does influence differently to watching a movie. I like violent games, but i don't want 8 year olds playing GTA San Andreas because their parents say "its only a game" i want the parents educated, and the games rated harshly. I can live with GTA4 having been censored, it was still fun. I was upset over Fallout3 because i felt the rule that got it editted was strange, but i can understand it.

I agree that there is an issue of freedom of speech / right to expression (which in Australia are not in the constitution) but for the US and UK there is that issue i gather. I agree the artist's vision should be respected and not forced by censorship, but arguing that it's unfair because a game with blood and gore is rated to be refused classification, or whatever is not realistic. Different countries have different values. I don't agree that having an 18+ rating would make the game more easily accessible, because the logic Michael Atkinson (or what ever his name, sorry i'm not looking it up) does not hold up: movies come out on dvd, kids will still get them. Same thing happens with games. His logic is flawed, but i can accept his values.

I would not vote for him (though in his current job he was appointed), or hope for his re-appointment, but he got there, by a system we are supporting by not working actively to change.

And artistic vision, once more, I don't believe censorship works, i want to be able to see a movie uncut, read a book unaltered, but that does not mean that a company should whinge that they won't sell as many copies of a title because it got rated such. True there is a divide between publisher and creator, but the point i'm aiming for, the artists vision should be without looking at the bottom line. If they are doing it for profit then they have to cater to the market, if it is artistic, then they should do it for their vision. Games are not art (and i don't mean the legalistic term) they are a product, thus there are compromises. There are independent movies that have only small screenings, but are true to their artistic vision and still have a following. Games don't work that way ... not yet. Give it another few years. And hopefully we will have an 18+ rating by then.

Re: Fallout 3 to Ship Worldwide with Cuts Made for Australian

Fallout 3 fails to do justice to the Fallout name, I fail to see how this is news.

Re: Fallout 3 to Ship Worldwide with Cuts Made for Australian

I don't really have a problem with this seeing as how the original games had no references to real drugs, but I'm still dubious about the idea of bowing to censors.

Re: Fallout 3 to Ship Worldwide with Cuts Made for Australian

I'm with Andrew Eisen on this, while i disagree with the censoresq changes i personally don't find it that big of a deal. Rather then having cocaine they just change the name to lithium crystal or something fake like that. No big deal really. BTW, I can't wait for the game. Hope to get a new PC soon to play it.

Re: Fallout 3 to Ship Worldwide with Cuts Made for Australian

EPIC FAIL, +1 for censorship...

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Re: Fallout 3 to Ship Worldwide with Cuts Made for Australian

Holy Two-Headed Cow! Fallout 3 ships next week?

Please tell me I missed a release update?

 

 

Re: Fallout 3 to Ship Worldwide with Cuts Made for Australian

I disagree with Bethesda's decision.

 

Andrew Eisen

Re: Fallout 3 to Ship Worldwide with Cuts Made for Australian

I agree that Bethesda should have "stuck to their guns" when it comes to censorship in any form, however, if they just changed the names of the drugs, it's not going to matter to me.

So instead of taking a "Vicadin", I'm taking a "Mood Enhancer"...no biggie.

I'm not thrilled to the fact that some "politician" is going to gloat to the masses about how he stood up to the "evil corporation" and "made them change the content to adhere to the law"

You give them an inch, they take a mile.....

Sortableturnip's Law: As an online discussion of video game violence grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Jack Thompson approaches 1

Re: Fallout 3 to Ship Worldwide with Cuts Made for Australian

Why?  It's just a name change.  It's not like they completely removed the content from the game.  I'm ok with this decision since we know more than a few people would prolly get a little up in arms over the use of morphine as a powerup.  Better to play it safe now than to get screwed over later on like what happened with Elder Scrolls 4.

Re: Fallout 3 to Ship Worldwide with Cuts Made for Australian

"Why?  It's just a name change."

If it was a creative decision, I'd be fine with it but I can't brook kowtowing to the absurd and irrational fears of a body that doesn't understand what its complaining about.

"I'm ok with this decision since we know more than a few people would prolly get a little up in arms over the use of morphine as a powerup."

That's my whole point.  Anyone who gets "up in arms" over it is an idiot.  Should we bend to the will of idiots?  I don't think so.

I understand why Bethesda did what it did.  I just disagree with it.

"Better to play it safe now than to get screwed over later on like what happened with Elder Scrolls 4."

Refresh my memory, what happened with Elder Scrolls 4?

 

Andrew Eisen

Re: Fallout 3 to Ship Worldwide with Cuts Made for ...

They called it Ferciment. This is a system by which a steel or iron wire framework is built in the shape of a boat's hull and covered (troweled) over with cement

<a href="http://www.seaschool.com.au">boat license course</a>

Re: Fallout 3 to Ship Worldwide with Cuts Made for Australian

About the Elder Scrolls 4, they were re-rated due to various reasons.

More details here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESRB_re-rating_of_The_Elder_Scrolls_IV:_Obl...

After this, I can understand why Bethesda wants to play safe with Fallout 3.

Re: Fallout 3 to Ship Worldwide with Cuts Made for Australian

Yeah, I remember that but I fail to see what that has to do with this.  Both the ESRB and the BBFC were aware of the drug names and considered them while assigning a rating.

According to the ESRB, Oblivion was rerated because Bethesda failed to disclose content (technically true in regards to the topless skin art asset).

 

Andrew Eisen

Re: Fallout 3 to Ship Worldwide with Cuts Made for Australian

It is very un-Fallout to use real-world drug names anyway. Cite once in the series that this has occured. 

Also, what's the problem if the whole chem system is intact? Including the additions and reductions in stats while on the chems, along with the whole addiction/withdrawal mini/meta-game. Wasn't that the real issue anyway? Wasn't the whole stink about Bioshock passing while offering benefits from intravenous drugs and Fallout not getting the same treatment?

 
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