ThePeople.co.uk reports that guards at H.M. Frankland Prison have been ordered to play Wii games with an inmate who killed two little girls in a highly-publicized 2003 case.
According to the report, administrators, who apparently hope to prevent Ian Huntley (left) from committing suicide, have also instructed guards to call Huntley by his first name and "treat him like family." Huntley has made three unsuccessful attempts to take his own life. From the report:
...taxpayers have picked up the bill to put a £179 Nintendo Wii console in Huntley's cell in Co Durham.
And warders will join him in games which require players to replicate real-life actions in sports like tennis, golf and fishing. A jail source said: "Huntley has been asking for a Wii for months.
"When he moved to Frankland in February he was given a Nintendo Game Cube - but after only a few weeks he began complaing it was out of date.
"Management are desperate to stop him going though with threats he's made to kill himself and by giving him a Wii they believe they can take his mind away from harming himself in any way."
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YES.
Now I don't have to get off my ass for the important shit anymore!
Whats next, ordering pizza from Xbox live?
Wait... I think that sounds like a good idea.
But I think voting should MAKE you get off your ass, and see outside or a second while you go vote. I mean, your picking the president of the United States of America for God's Sake... least you can do is drive down there and punch out a card.
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I'm all for freedom of ttnet vitamin speech and allowing rent a car game makers to put whatever they want in games, but there's one thing about this app that has me scratching my head. Correct me if I'm wrong, but from araç kiralama the previous article araba kiralama on this I gathered that players can use Google maps in-game to find the other (real-life?) dealers in their area. If this is the case, has travesti anyone considered what's stopping someone from using this app to actually move drugs between hands for reals?
But majority araba kiralama of their outrage araç kiralama stems from what it could DO TO children, not the content itself. Talk to one of these people and you'll find they don't think any books kiralık araba should be banned from children. Mention American Psycho and they talk about kiralık araç the redeeming value of using imagination to construct a story. Reading, no matter what the content, is largely viewed as a consequenceless activity for people of any age. The reason why I mention American Psycho is because of the content itself. Gaming never has and likely never will have any scenes where someone has sex with a severed head. Not gonna happen. Yet despite this, they'll fight tooth and nail to protect their children from two boys kissing in Bully but whatever they read is harmless... yeah.
The entire arguement is kiralık oto based upon a social normality inflicted by luddites who can't figure out the controls for Halo so it's frightening and terrifying and obviously the cause of youth violence on the rise even though, in reality, it's in decline (which is actually a HUGE suprise given minibüs kiralama the economies status). In a perfect world, we would have parents that actually parent. The idea of sales restrictions on media on oto kiralama any form to accomidate parental unwillingness to get involved with their child's life is the real problem to me. Here I am, 32 years old, and being held up at a self-scan rent a car needing to show ID before I can buy a $10 M rated game all because Soccer Momthra can't be bothered to look at the crap Billy Genericallystupidson does in his free time. It's too hard for her, so I have to suffer?
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Toss him in solitary tied up until he stops talking about it, inject him full of drugs, and let him stew until he decides that he really is going to live out the rest of his life in prison for MURDERING innocent people.
This'll be great for your crime rates. "Murder little girls, get a free wii and people to play it with you!"
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Even if you dont like the death penality......giving him a wii wtf?
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I cant believe the people here. Majority of you want to torture and kill him. Yes, good job then the system becomes no better than the criminals. Then the system should proscute anyone in the prison system that goes as far as many of you are describing. So if you want to torture and kill him would you be the first one to stand up and do it? If you are going to be the one to do it you are no better than this criminal.
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This guy is a child murderer, he should have been hung untill dead, not given all the things he wants, just give him a knife and lock him in a room with white noise for a week if he hasn't done for himself by the end, help him do it, he obviously doesn't want to live if he's trying to kill himself then he should die. But then again UK prisons are so cushy people break in to them not out. I mean inmates get their council houses paid for while inside, plus get decent meals overcrowding is classed as more than 1 to a room. the people in there were judged guilty and deemed to unsafe to leave in society, why should they have more rights and comforts than british soldiers.
I'll tell you why, the law is too soft, we get world renowned crims coming here cos they can either get a lovely comfy cell or can stay at large in the country fighting extradition for ages.
Bah
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this "man", if you can call him that, doesn't deserve any priveleges; the UK seems to be soft on scumbags, what kind of bullshit is this? this may sound cold, but murderers and rapists are sub-human garbage that needs to be removed from society, that can come in either the form of capital punishment or life without parole.
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Yeah, damn euro-fags! Praise be allmighty Uh-murikkah!!
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It's not the rights we're gripping about (mostly), it's about the guy getting a pat on the back and a Wii (at taxpayers' expense) just because he wanted to die after killing children.
Other gamers have to ask their parents or take from their own pockets to pay for a Wii or therapy, and that's without them breaking any laws.
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Re: Report: Prison Guards Ordered to Play Wii with Child Killer
I got a solution to this problem:
Take Mr. Child Killer, strip him naked and throw him into a 8' x 8' concrete room with a plastic crap bucket ala that TV show Oz. Hey look management, he's not killing himself; and you saved £179 to boot.
I should manage me some prisons.
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Why give him a Wii? Why not just sedate him, or put him in a straight jacket? Or both? That just seems to be bullshit reasoning to me. Whatever though. I can't do shit about it...
-Remember kids, personal responsibility is for losers! For information on games and psychology, look up: Jonathan Freedman(2002)Block & Crain(2007) Just to name a few...
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This might sound mean-hearted but if some child murderer wanted to kill himself then i'd say go ahead and let him. Maybe we sould make that an option for prisoners who have commited such sick crimes. How could anyone live with themselves knowing they killed a young child let alone two of them.
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Maybe one of the guards will be influenced by video games to kill him.
Because, you know Wii Sports baseball is training the public on how to be a the next Niko Bellic.
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Are the guards also required to give him hugs and wipe his ass? Christ Almighty.
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If the guards disagree with this, they ought to refuse to do it. Furthermore, if it is a stipulation that's part of his therapy, the therapist ought to be the one to play with him. Being formerly a part of a police department, I know this would definitely create a bunch of very upset officers at said department. It only degrades the perceived authority of those officers in the eyes of other prisoners, and is likely a disgusting task on a personal and moral level to many of them. At least it would be for me.
I agree with the sentiment that punishment should be precisely that. What privileges prisoners receive should be only as rewards for excellent behavior. Access to healthy, clean environments and plenty of time to stretch and get some kind of work out are basics I can agree with, along with healthy meals in appropriate portions. Beyond that, a prisoner needs to prove he wishes to better himself for when he is released to have access to privileges such as entertainment.
If a prisoner threatens or attempts suicide you put them in an empty room and take away whatever they attempt to use. At my former department, we at times ended up with totally nude prisoners in an empty holding cell, because they kept attempting suicide with articles of clothing.
On a personal level, I disagree with the concept of life in prison with no chance of parole. It just smacks of everyone agreeing that he needs to go, but no one wanting to get their hands dirty. It is a highly inefficient and expensive form of the death penalty. If you decide that a person is incapable or unworthy of ever returning to society, do everyone involved a favor and just kill him. Otherwise, set a specific time limit, or give him a chance to parole if he shows true rehabilitation and a desire to return to law abiding society.
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I have a lot harder outlook.
In my opinion, if you (Intentionally) take a life, you sacrifice your own. Life in prison is cruelty not mercy.
Prison is something that should be feared not a place were you get more benifits then those that try to do right by the world.
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In regard to access to privileges, I was speaking more to the full range of crimes. If a crime is committed that is not typically punished with a life sentence or a death sentence, something like an assault or theft, those individuals, if they can demonstrate they have a willingness to attempt to reform and become a law abiding member of society, I don't mind them being granted some privileges.
If, on the other hand, you commit a great enough crime that a jury of your peers decides you are unfit or unworthy to be a part of society at large ever again, then see my personal note at the bottom of that last post.
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You know im still kind of on the fence about that...
I understand what your saying but what im trying to say is if prison was something to be feared, you wouldn't have so many thefts, ect.
If someone realizes that if they get caught commiting a crime and they will be treated as well as a law abiding citizen, why not take a chance on the crime.
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Here's an idea, what ever happened to "chain gangs"? Inmates that are in for years or even life should be forced to do work! Make a prison near a mine, near something where they can get something accomplished, get in shape, help society out. Prison shouldn't be expensive, there should be actual work that is accomplished. Almost like slave labor, except not quite as harsh. Even if inmates can't follow laws, they should still work like a real citizen.
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I agree with those who say they shouldn't have done any of this for him, but I understand why they did.
My guess: To prevent a massive lawsuit, should he actually succeed in killing himself by his family. In the millions of pounds sterling range.
The man who trades freedom for security does not deserve nor will he ever receive either. ~ Benjamin Franklin
Yes, I am a liberal. I also believe in a strong military, less government, and the right to bear arms.
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Actually, you might be spot on there.
Someone dieing in prision is always a big legal to-do, esp if one can make the argument that the guards were negligant. Being a monster or not doesn't change the law concerning such things.
This would probably be an even bigger deal in the US (more lawsuit oriented, and a history of guards killing (or at least allowing to be killed) prisoners. So the suicide of such a high profile person would quickly bring a magnifing glass down on the place which is always a huge hassle.
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Check the straight-jacket idea a few comments up, that's what we should do. He won't kill himself cuz he can't, but won't be let off easy with a NINTENDO WII
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I don't know.... Quality control anyone?
Come on! he killed 2 little girls, who is standing up for their rights! Why is this guy still breathing? If the Brits don't have a death penality then fine, they don't have to save him either...
Hell, maybe they should get him a copy of Pong Toss and do some real life beer pong to make him happy.
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they should do whatever they need to prevent that from happening. why? because he desires to face the consequences of his actions like a coward would. anyone who truly feels remorse or guilt would not run from their conscience. letting him kill himself would be letting him off easy and slapping the victims in the face, he deserves to be haunted by what he did until he dies natually.
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Am I the only one whose first reaction was, "holy crap, how bad does a prison have to be for an inmate to make not one, but three suicide attempts?" If this man feels strongly enough to try to remove himself from the planet, then he needs serious help -- end of discussion. I find it hard to believe that he could be living in the lap of luxury if they can't safely keep him from improvising a method of self-destruction, unless the entire British prison system was constructed backwards. (More likely it's the British press exploiting this half-assed story out of hand to construct a few hundred extra sales.)
Edit: Think it's bad for an inmate with a life sentence to have a Wii? Maxine Carr, the "ex-lover" mentioned in the story, constructed an alibi for Huntley, claimed she only lied because she believed he was innocent, and was released on probation with a new secret identity provided by the cops. She has the capability to privately enjoy any of the major console or PC releases if she so chooses after aiding a murderer in the perversion of justice. How's that for fairness, eh?
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Considering the tax-payer has to fund the operation to keep her new identity safe from reprisal which costs more than prison and that she can go on holiday but the tax-payer has to foot the bill so that she is supported.
Ian Huntley is kept in solitary as it is too dangerous to keep him in normal prison, if he commits suicide people will be upset that he didn't serve his punishment but if the prison panders to his needs the same group of people will be upset that he is getting off lightly and if he isn't pandered to he can sue the prison under the unfortunate European Convention of Human Rights which is more easily employed by the accused rather than the victims.
"Everyone has the right to security of person. Everyone’s right to life shall be protected by law. No one shall be deprived of his life intentionally save in the execution of a sentence of a court following his conviction of a crime for which this penalty is provided by law.
Deprivation of life shall not be regarded as inflicted in contravention of this Article when it results from the use of force which is no more than absolutely necessary:
(a) in defence of any person from unlawful violence;
(b) in order to effect a lawful arrest or to prevent the escape of a person lawfully detained;
(c) in action lawfully taken for the purpose of quelling a riot or insurrection."
as allowing him to commit suicide whilst on suicide watch contravenes this as it means a failure to act and thus depriving him of life, the prison is liable for essentially a murder.)
The same for Maxine Carr "Everyone has the right to respect for his private and family life, his home and his correspondence." meaning if she is found out it breaches this and the country is liable for whatever consequences the breach entails.
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The quoted articles are from http://www.opsi.gov.uk/ACTS/acts1998/ukpga_19980042_en_3 this is the british act but the european convention is the same but is employed at a higher level and can be used by an individual rather than a state, ie if a person has appealed against the british act and lost they will appeal to a court of the European Union who can supercede any verdict of a court of a member nation.
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Why not spend the money and the food that is being used to keep inmates alive on starving children in africa or something instead... At least then we know that the resources wasted go to keep people that are not an obvious danger to our society alive
I would rather have the food and wii go to a lucky child than to a childmurderer.
Oh and btw in sweden that is pretty much basic proccedure... We have homeless people moving in to Sweden from Denmark in the winters that commit crimes just so they can survive the winter. They get beds, warm rooms, computers with internet, chips and Soda in sweden prisons.
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Sounds like sweden needs homeless shelters then.
If the best way to survive a winter is to commit a crime and end up in jail then something in sociaty has failed, and it isn't the jail.
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They get beds, warm rooms, computers with internet, chips and Soda in sweden prisons.
Basic luxuries that us law abiding citizens actually have to WORK to get and keep. Funny how criminals get them for free.
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Yeah. They have it so easy I'm surprised more people aren't beating down the prison doors to get in.
Idiot.
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You insulting comment is greatly appreciate anony-troll. In spite of the prison population, lack of privacy, and questionable cleanliness of the facilities are prisons really such bad places to be? Take out the negatives of it (those being the three aforementioned things) and you can't tell me that inmates have it easier than most hard working and law abiding citizens.
Oh... But I forgot, I must be an idiot for thinking that having things given to me just sucks so bad.
Idiot.
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No, they don't have it easier. For one thing, there <i>is</i> that pesky matter of the "prison population, lack of privacy, and questionable cleanliness of the facilities", and besides that there remains the fact that... you know... you can't leave prison voluntarily. If you really think prisoners do have it better, I welcome you to volunteer to stay in prison for about a decade. You won't accept, because you're as full of shit as you are certain that prisoners are being coddled.
Idiot.
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You still insist on remaining anonymous while hurling insults don't you?
So you're saying being guaranteed 3 meals a day, guaranteed a bed, recreation, etc., etc. FOR FREE is so much worse than working for it? Wow... You're right, they CAN'T leave. But if you took out the other negatives of being in prison then why would you really want to?
I'm assuming your vitriolic reactions are the result of you being in prison for a decade? It would explain why you feel the need to put words in my mouth.
Idiot.
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"So you're saying being guaranteed 3 meals a day, guaranteed a bed, recreation, etc., etc. FOR FREE is so much worse than working for it?"
And yet you wonder why I call you an idiot? I suppose we should instead treat them like the prisoners at Guantanamo? Perhaps once somebody is imprisoned he should be divested of any remaining bits of humanity and treated like an animal? Feed him once a week, make him sleep on the floor, never let him out of his cell, etc., etc. and CHARGE HIM $300 a day for what surely is no worse than a four-star hotel room? Wow... I take it back. Yours is a truly shining intellect.
"But if you took out the other negatives of being in prison then why would you really want to?"
Ah. So your argument is that prisoners in hypothetical prisons are better off than you and I? How brilliant, to argue against your own false examples. If nothing else, it's a great way to win an argument.
"I'm assuming your vitriolic reactions are the result of you being in prison for a decade?"
No, I've never been in prison, but I knew a man who was imprisoned on trumped-up charges for speaking out against the US Government. The man literally went crazy after being imprisoned. Prison is nowhere you want to be.
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Alright, I'll concede to your point but let's get back on why I said what I did which was in relation TO THE F-ING TOPIC. A prisoner SHOULD NOT, especially after killing two little girls, be given a Wii. The guards shouldn't be ordered to play with him. Most of us have to work for a luxury like that. He being a prisoner should have no such luxury but he was given one anyways because he made a threat to take his own life.
Your insistence on calling me an idiot does not really make you look any more intellectual than I do. But let's be real, making a snarky and sarcastic comment along with a open assault on someone's intellect -- that you don't know -- really makes you seem all the more intelligent. I guess if we could judge someone's intellect based on a sentence or two then most people here could be thought of as idiots or geniuses.
Please keep your vitriolic insults out of the discussion. I was expressing a point of view, obviously you couldn't see that, and I am willing to carry on a civil discussion in kind if the person addressing me is civil. Too bad you couldn't reply with a civil response in your first comment.
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Okay. I apologize for the insults. It's just that I've grown tired of the authoritarianism so prevalent in American society these days, so any hint of it tends to piss me off.
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"You still insist on remaining anonymous while hurling insults don't you?"
Rule 3, Jeff.
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I'm afraid I don't understand, could you please elaborate?
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Quoted word-for-word.
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Re: Report: Prison Guards Ordered to Play Wii with Child Killer
*don't have it easier
A small typo. But my point still stands.
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Well from another prespective, keeping prisoners calm or otherwise satiated provides a more safe environment for the employees of the correctional facility. Sure enough they signed up for the job, but they get enough hazard by the nature of the inmate's history of violence or deceit, I imagine.
Not to advocate big screen TVs, Lobsters and PSPs for inmates, mind you. But at least so much as a prisoner is held seperated from society at large, the prison meets its court appointed need.
And from another angle, suicide isn't justice. its escaping sentence.
also, its a Wii. That's barely an upgrade from a Game Cube :)
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So do Brit Prisoners. If he wasn't on suicide watch, he would have been stabbed to death long ago.
~You Could Be Mine, But You're Way Out Of Line..~
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Put his sorry ass in a straight jacket and a padded room, see how suicidal he can be that way.
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I bet those two little girls would have loved to play the wii.
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Or you know, feeding a bunch of homeless people for a day.
But hey, why prioritize law-abiding citizens over cretinous murderers? Then bitches need their Wii.
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I'm fine with it. Whatever keeps him off the streets.