Obama Campaign Goes Negative with Gambling Game Ad

September 13, 2008 -

A new ad from the Obama campaign employs a virtual roulette interface in an effort to paint John McCain as a politics-as-usual, Beltway insider...


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Nintendo is indeed selling SOME of these on the Virtual Console but not even close to all of them. While i agree in part to his piracy he was filling a market that Nintendo failed to recognize. Maybe someone doesnt want to buy a Wii. maybe they just want a console with 50 - 100 NES games on them?? maybe just maybe?

but no Nintendo wants everyone araba kiralama to buy the Wii. thats their excuse but thats not what copyright is supposed to protect. i am real sure that the makers of 10 yard fight were losing sleep because they were missing out on their $0.00025 worth because they didnt get royalties from this player. *smirk*

my question is, should Super Mario Bros. be banned from public domain forever? isnt 23 years enough time for Nintendo to have made their profits?

If you have followed the Steamboat Willie case regarding Mickey Mouse you can rest in your bed well at night knowing that the MOUSE will still be under copyright law, away from public domain after your great grandchildren are in nursing homes. That is beyond ridiculous dont you think??

Gallagher can araç kiralama say all he wants, but I strongly rent a car believe it's due to his crappy leadership and E3 being a joke. ESA's Board of Directors need to find a way to get out rent a car of this horrid contract with this Bush cronie before there's no one left on the Board.

Btw, I think Atari and Midway will drop out too, but mostly travesti because  these guys have done nothing ttnet vitamin or little and need to start saving costs.

YES.

Now I don't have to get off my ass for the important shit anymore!

Whats next, ordering pizza from Xbox live?

Wait... I think that sounds like a good idea.

But I think voting should MAKE you get off your ass, and see outside or a second while you go vote. I mean, your picking the president of the United States of America for God's Sake... least you can do is drive down there and punch out a card.

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wow this is just so the liberals can get Obama's ad out to a few more people ignore this this isn't news, nor is it related to video games at all. Just because there are games about casino gambling doesn't make this relevant. There are video games about football, does that mean every campaign slogan with a mention of football is related?

Re: Obama Campaign Goes Negative with Gambling Game Ad

Technically an animated, interactive card game is a videogame.

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Re: Obama Campaign Goes Negative with Gambling Game Ad

 This doesn't really seem like news for GP. It does have an animation of a game, but not a video game. It's like calling an animation of a card game news about video games.

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As my previous comment said, it is GP's site and therefore his perogative to put whatever he wants on it, and should it involve a link to videogames, as it usually does, alls the better.

 

And GP, my comment referred to Jack claiming the videogame industry were out to "shoot the messenger" when they discredited him, sometime around the hot coffee fiasco I believe, nevertheless, Jack baiting is fun, he is too serious about himself to understand when things are a joke.

We should set the joker on him to ask him the age old question!

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Re: Obama Campaign Goes Negative with Gambling Game Ad

All the effective adverts are attack adverts.

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Re: Obama Campaign Goes Negative with Gambling Game Ad

1. I kinda like this ad. Yes, it is an attack, but it's got some truths behind it. Plus, I haven't been too happy with the Republicans over the past eight years (a bit of it having to do with the entire Bush presidency spanning my entire teenage life, from 12 in 2000 to 20 in '08), and this just gives me more reasons not to vote for them this election.

2. Jeez, guys. Getting a little gung-ho for McCain, aren't we? Same with you Obama-ites. I mean, I can respect your rights to have whatever views you want about whoever on either side of the political spectrum, but come on: to get this worked up over an attack ad....Maybe I should invite everyone over for some chamomile tea, and we can all sit in a circle and talk about our feelings. No lie.

3. Excellent defense, GP. I had a thought that this issue wasn't really relevant to this blog, but after you explained that there have been casino games in the past and that this ad is probably using game tech to explain McCain's general position on American middle-class issues today, I kinda got the picture. Hey, guys, like GP said: "Don't shoot the messenger."

I guess what I'm saying is this: I agree with GP about the relevancy of this issue, I didn't like McCain before and am entitled to view this ad in however fashion I may choose, and everyone needs to calm down some. For those who are old enough, get dressed in some cotton-flannel shorts, a t-shirt, and a beige cord robe-like sweater, head down to your nearest bar, order a White Russian, and just chill with your friends for a while (maybe afterwards, go do a little bowling). For those that aren't old enough for alcohol, make a cup of tea, massage your earlobes by rubbing them between your thumbs and index fingers, close your eyes, and take long slow breaths.

Love and peace, my gaming brethren (and sistren).

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I want some tea!  Man, can we seriously sit and talk about our feelings.   We need a vent column on this site, haha.  Oh wait, there is a ShoutBox.  I think between politics, gas prices, EA and other companies screwing consumers hard, and everything else going on, we all need a good place to vent.  God forbid we have personal ordeal to deal with.  That SNL link I posted up there is a great chance to relax for 5 minutes and have a good laugh though.  It doesnt matter if you are republican or democrat, it is a funny skit.

Also, vodka, coffee liqueur, and cream...  How good is that? because it doesn't sound half bad.

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please tell me that wasn't done JUST to bait JT with his own famous quote GP?!

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Re: Obama Campaign Goes Negative with Gambling Game Ad

GP: which quote would that be? 

And, no, believe me, I hear way more than enough from JT without even trying (or wanting to...)

Re: Obama Campaign Goes Negative with Gambling Game Ad

so... which side am I trying to persuade you to with this post?

I take it some Obama supporters are offended because I used the term "goes negative" in the headline, but it is a very negative attack ad.

On the other hand, some McCain supporters might take offense because the entire anti-McCain video is posted right in the story for all to see.

Honestly, people, I've been running this site for going on four years, and if you've been reading, you know that I will write about any linkage to politics and video games, including the use of video game tech. We also run a little off the pure political beat with stories about the game biz, consumer issues, the occasional cultural focus, etc. The rules for what gets covered here are not, have never been, chiseled in granite.

As to this issue of whether a story (one with politics and game tech in it) fits the charter of the site, these issues usually arise when someone feels their candidate got slimed. That's not my intention. I don't - and never will - endorse. I just report.

My impression is that people are just so wrapped up in this race that they are very sensitive to any perceived slight toward their candidates. Last week I had the Sarah Palin supporters all over me for a couple of different stories. There's nothing I can do about that. I will keep writing the stories that seem interesting and on target with what GP has always done.

I hope you enjoy them and I hope they spark your interest. I'm not getting into any pushing of one candidate or another. That's never been what we do here. I'll leave you with this:

Don't shoot the messenger...

 

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You definitely side with the democraps with your articles, but I don't hate you for it.  The republicants are a not what we need right now.  I don't see a clear enough link to say that it has a relation with games, BUT this SNL Palin/Hillary skit is so funny that it doesn't matter if it is games or not:

http://nbc.com/Saturday_Night_Live/video/clips/palin-hillary-open/656281/

Either way, it is your site, run it how you with, we can only ask for different things.  I wish we had a separate section for political stuff and game stuff.  Your political coverage really isn't bad, just a little bias, but maybe that is just how it is even going off on the slightest whim of a link between games and politics. This is game politics, and we should know who has what positions on games.  So I am curious on how Biden, Obama, and McCain have voted on different game legislation if you can find information on that easily enough, and personally, I am curious about the energy plans for both campaigns.  I am sure McCain supports more oil and hydrogen since that is what technology all the oil companies have their hands deep in, and Obama is kind of the same, but more nuclear with a little wind and solar. (I want to make an X360 powered off of solar alone, haha.)

http://www.ripten.com/2008/07/02/wii-outside-with-solar-powered-game-sta...

Okay, these links are for humor purposes only.  If you do not like funny things, do not go to them.  If you are up tight like JT, then I don't even know how you got to this post in the first place.

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"....and if you've been reading, you know that I will write about any linkage to politics and video games...."

But this story has NOTHING to do with video games. Literally nothing. NOTHING! it's a graphic depiction of a roulette wheel. Not a video game. If it were a flash game (instead of an FLV file) you would not be getting this flak. But it's not!

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"News posts" like this may get a bunch of comments, but every time you do it GP loses more credibility. Eventually people get sick of posts like this and just stop coming.  It's okay to lean one way or the other, but if you should at least try to be neutral when reporting news.  The majority of people come here for video game related news, not so you can try to persuade us to vote Democrat or Republican.

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100+ Comments and you all wonder why GP does these stories?

 

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I've just been reading all of the comments you lovely people have posted here. I've come to a few conclusions:

1) You all have no idea what you're talking about.

2) The US is doomed - some of you actually believe this shit about McCain being a maverick, and Sarah Palin making a good VP. Don't you realise that, if anything, they'll ensure that terrorist attacks on US soil increase. And they won't be Islamic factions anymore either. You can expect the Russians, Cubans and the Chinese certainly, and everyone in the centre will hate you with as fury, as opposed to just the left. Also, while Obama may possibly change certain aspects to a slightly less right-wing alliegance, the minute Exxon Moblie's boys and girls come through the door you'll have exactly the same situation as you've always had. The one good thing that will definately come from his presidency is that Palin won't get in.

You can be guaranteed a war with someone that you will not win eventually. Come to think of it, despite what Gen. Petty says about Iraq, you are not going to win. The moment you leave, be it in two or one-hundred years time, the Iranians are just going to move in and sponsor a coup. Unless you bomb the fuckers out first. As for that other war that you won't win - the one that WILL come at some point, it might actually show you that you're human beings like the rest of us - you might just fall from your mentality that you have Jesus's home number.

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Well I guess that means our collective ignorance must make you not want to post here anymore then. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

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Because everyone on this blog and it's forums are Right-Wing Americans, right?
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Sorry Hackerdude38, but if you're still relying of vague terms like "right-wing" you're no less ignorant than the evil ignorance factory you can't seem to leave, despite how it affronts your senses.

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So when was this site called 'Videogame Politics' then?

If we are going to pick at Dennis 'not living up to his title', then why not attack him for not posting D&D news, or Monopoly News or Game of Life news?

People seem to enjoy attacking Dennis for revealing his political leaning on a blog whilst, at the same time, making their own political leaning apparent on the same blog.

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Actually the website's tagline (look up) is

"When Politics and Video Games Colide"

Just because there are games about casino's does not mean that anything involving gambling is automatically linked to video games.

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2 Things:

1: Don't whine about what Dennis puts on the site, true it may be called gamepolitics.com, but as the person running the site he has the perogative to choose what he puts on it no? Further to that point, whining about him putting what he wants on his site, though not in the same ball park as Jack Thompson's incessant whining about people having things in videogames that he doesn't like, I would consider it the same sport at least because both are trying to have what is done by other people done just as they want it, and in that same vein, it is up to you to choose not to read the articles if you don't want to.

2: Obamabots?! That is a new one I must say, whilst the pro Obama group may criticise McCain for having a lack of any sort of progressive planning to try and drag America out of the craphole that it has turned itself into, the McCain supporters that I have met are all using insults and pretty much IRL trolling, also, some of you may remember townhall.com where Kevin McCullough had a nonsensical rant about sex in mass effect? that same website now spams my inbox with anti Obama rhetoric each day, telling me to "help America avoid Obamageddon" and "vote NOBama 08", to me that does nothing to strengthen my image of McCain, or weaken my support of Obama, because all it does is show the McCain followers up to be pathetic schoolchildren who have to resort to insults because they are unable to find any actual solid ground on which to argue their position, the attack ads are just getting more and more stupid and if this is the true face of American politics I am glad I don't live there yet.

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I guess what the esa was say about gp is coming to light.  I have been getting more and more upset with the lack of helping out your fellow gamers and the constant ads to express your bias against the republicains.  A TOPIC THAT COULD HAVE ACTUALLY HELPED OUT THE GAMERS (INSTEAD OF "NEWS" SAYING GOD OF WAR CREATOR SAYS SARAH IS A MILF), YOU COULD HAVE TALKED ABOUT THOUSANDS OF GAMERS GETTING SCREWED BY ROCKSTAR AND MICROSOFT BECAUSE OF MAJOR FREEZING ISSUES.  I TRIED TO GET SOME HELP, BUT ALL IN ALL, THE QUEST WAS AN EPIC FAIL.  MICROSOFT TOOK DOWN A THREAD WITH 2000 POST AND OVER 70000 VIEWS BECAUSE ROCKSTAR AND MICROSOFT WOULD NOT HELP OUT THE GAMERS BY PUTTING OUT A PATCH.

 

SO WHO ARE YOU WITH?  THEM OR US?

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Hear me oh sheep for if you refuse to see beyond the hill you bum shall be violated!
But GP is becoming a entertainment news site so the lightweight coverage is going to increase.

But I do agree that she was chosen for her looks and crazy fundie skills more than anything else.

I mean really we have strict moral nazis in the reaper party and crazy media nazis in the dims
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I live in alaska, so I see first hand the good she has done.  I was a fan of both obama and mccain before obama said he wanted all semi automatics banned.  I am in the military and a hunter, my guns are really important to me.  Both parties have there downsides: obama = less experience than palin, mccain = pushed by the will of bush.  Both parties are being played by the ones around them, but obama is trying to go more socialistic then mccain.  When the government starts taking control of the people, I fell that games would be next... So that is why I will not vote obama.  I hear more people talking about bullshit about both parties, when their are issues that need to be address.  Not "pig in lipstick," not "my muslim faith."  I could care less about who has money or who will make history.  I look at who would be better for the country, and mccain I fell is better for the job.

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Can't really follow your logic here.  Obama has less experience than Palin?  Um he's been a senator since 2004 and prior to this worked as a constitutional lawyer, which means he isn't about to start "taking control of games" like you are insinuating.  You can argue that it isn't a LOT of experience, but it is certainly more than Palin.

Personally my biggest fears with the Republicans lie with Palin.  McCain is just more of Bush's policies, which while I don't like them in the least, are the devil you know.  Palin however seemed even more neo-con and has a high chance of becoming President during the term should they get in.  As has been said, this is real life and not a Disney movie.  The Hockey mom, whose experience is governing less people than some American cities, becoming President is not n amazing tale but a scary potential reality.

I'm no fan of negative ads, prefering to hear the policies instead.  However I see a massive difference between spreading lies and repeating them or villifying someone personally and just pointing out facts based on voting records, history and flaws in proposals.  I think the attacks on Obama over his school and lies about his religion are equally bas as the rumours being spread about Palin's daughter being her granddaughter or McCain lying about his time as POW; THESE sorts of attacks really are not needed in politics at all.

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Palin was a mayor for over two terms of her town, and a governer of alaska before obama became a senate.  Also Obama is only a part time senator.  Please google this as I feel that you were mislead.  And how can you say McCain lied about his time as a POW, I guess someone has be listining to some of the swiftboat veteren bullcrap... The same people that said McCain adopted kid was an illegitimate child of his.  Right now is a time to do research, not a time to listen to what others say because of bias oppinions and straight up lies.

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What a pointless article.  I'm very sad to say GP is really going down hill.

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Oh lord ye sheep think outside the box, in order to control one medium be it book,film or game(small g for general gaming) they will take that same moralistic BS and try and drag Games(with a big G as in Video Games) down with other modern media decrying its ending civilization and their own backasswards assault on logic and reason.

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Seriously GP? I'm normally all for your articles but:

 

1. There is a big difference between a pro-Obama ad and an ad by the Obama Campaign.

2. The link between this link and the percieved purpose of this site (IE politics as they relate to gaming and gamers) is tenuous and practically non-existant

3. It's an attack ad yes, but the title ("Obama campaign goes negative etc") seems like an obvious trolling attempt on your part.

 

Have some goddamn sense.

Re: Obama Campaign Goes Negative with Gambling Game Ad

Is is an ad by the Obama campaign.

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 GP really needs to stop making posts like this.  People come here for video game politics, not your personal political beliefs. 

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Slow news day GP? :/

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What does this have to do with game related politics? Obama's using a vitual roulette wheel as a mean of setting up an attack on McCain's campaign, but that doesn't really have anything to do with game legislation or cencorship or game blame or some dumbass watchdog organization or anything that really means a damn thing to the crusade against censorship.

If McDonalds uses a video game esque advertisement to try and sell their food, will that be covered too?

 

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Re: Obama Campaign Goes Negative with Gambling Game Ad

This is a youtube video of a campaign ad that has nothing to do with game politics, and no kind of editorial or explanation attached to it other than "this is an ad."

the hell?

 

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I've been seeing a lot of these kind of stories lately on GP. Too many in fact. Seriously, what does this have to do with video games? What does the fact that Bristol Palin's boyfriend mentioned he likes playing games on his myspace page have to do with the gaming industry? What do these stories, and others whose links to gaming are questionable, have to say about the industry or the government getting involved in video gaming?

Seriously, a gambling metaphor? A Mortal Kombat ad I can see being covered, but gambling?

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I can understand the "games on myspace" story, but I kind of agree with everything else you've said.

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This is funny mainly because Biden is the epitome of business as usual politics.

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 I'd trust Biden, one the least personally wealthy members of the senate, with my money more than John ''seven houses'' McCain. (Not implying he's corrupt, just how massively establishment and out of touch he is.)

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That's funny, what with all the free meals and free trips that Biden gets from lobbyists and special interest groups.

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This is funny mainly because any candidate born of mainstream politics is the epitome of business as usual politics.

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How does that make the Obama camp any less of a pack of hypocrites?

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I don't think that's what he was arguing, just that any mainstream political candidate is a jackass.

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Bingo, you got it right.

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 Maybe because they aren't the ones running on anti-lobbyist platform, with lobbyists as the heads of the campaign.

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Slow news day huh?

Gift.

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Does anyone know what they mean when they say he voted against children's healthcare? It can't possibly be as simple as that, there must've been something specfic about that bill.

---------------------------------------------------- Debates are like merry go rounds. Two people take their positions then they go through the same points over and over and over again. Then when it's over they have the same positions they started in.

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The specific thing about the bills would be that all plans for children health care so far have been nothing but proposed drains on the economy and a step closer to socialized health care.  The plan Hillary presented a bit over a year ago for child health gave automatic health care to "children" between the ages of newborn-25.  25 years old is not a child in any legal sense.

 

It's real easy to say "but think of the children," it's quite a bit harder to say "can we help the children, or do we even have that right as the government?"

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I've given up on 4 years of betterness the minute I heard on tv people were voting for OBama because "he knows how to use a computer and the internet."

And any of that has to do with the running the country........how?

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 Because it, along with his seven houses, shows how massively out of touch with the average person he is. Also, it is very much relevant, because things like net neutrality, DRM, and even cyber warfare are going to become more and more of a issue in the coming years.

 
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