Obama Campaign Goes Negative with Gambling Game Ad

September 13, 2008 -

A new ad from the Obama campaign employs a virtual roulette interface in an effort to paint John McCain as a politics-as-usual, Beltway insider...


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Re: Obama Campaign Goes Negative with Gambling Game Ad

 ah, the old right wing tactic of screaming''ZOMG! Communist!!'' at any remotely progressive candidate. The incredibly depressing thing is that it sometimes works.

Re: Obama Campaign Goes Negative with Gambling Game Ad

Yeah, he's totally not a Marxist...just a socialist.  Slight difference, but both are bad.

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Does that mean Sarah Palin is too? Because she supported and pushed through a windfall profit tax against oil companies in Alaska too, and that's where much of Alaska's revenues are coming from now (aside from Federal earmarks).

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You know, if so-called progressives really want to stop people from screaming''ZOMG! Communist!!'' all the time, it would probably help if you didn't run a candidate who started his career as a "community organizer" inspired by the quasi-Marxist works of Saul Alinsky, and who sat in a Marxist, Liberation Theology church for twenty years..

Personally, I think Obama is closer to being a Third Way fascist/neo-con than a commie, what, with his endless list of proposed public-private partnerships, GSEs, mandatory "volunteer" service programs, and all. But given his past and his tired, class-warfare rhetoric, I can understand why people would mistake him for a communist.

Re: Obama Campaign Goes Negative with Gambling Game Ad

Ever since the landmark Supreme Court ruling in "Spade vs Call A Spade".

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Marxist

(that's supposed to be a straight face)

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*watches video*

Nothing wrong here.  Besides, I see no value in gambling and wish it didn't appear in video games at all, unless it's the Casino Night Zone in Sonic 2.  See, video games are all about skill, pushing your way forward by deliberately manipulating tools, enemies, and events.  Gambling is all about chance, so when it's plopped down in the midst of a quest (and even worse, when there are special powerful prizes you can get only by gambling) it distorts its flow and makes for endless agrravation when the numbers don't align right.  Even when you can buy gambling chips or coins to buy the prizes, it's still redundant and a hassle; why can't you just buy those items with normal money in the first place?

I hate the "game corners" in Pokemon, I hate Casino Voloyal in Phantasy Star Universe, and I didn't even like the Gold Saucer in Final Fantasy 7 (which was something of a messy game anyway).  Video games are too superior to be watered down like that.

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Well said, my friend.

Video games should focus on skill and reward a player for that; not on a hit or miss chance game. I think that's also a major aspect in why Mario Party games aren't what they used to be - too many luck-based minigames when compared to those seen in older Mario Parties (1 and 2 probably had the best minigames, IMO).

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I agree, though I also concede that the "video board game" is a unique genre that can't be judged the same as conventional games.  These games have Monopoly and Candy Land in mind, so who wins is /supposed/ to be more random.

Unfortunately, that makes their single player modes redundant, and the idea of having unlockables even more so.  And I can't comment on the first couple of Mario Parties since I haven't played them much, but if they're decent (hand scorching control stick twirling and exhausting button mashing aside), I might check them out.

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Monopoly isn't random.  That shit gets intense.

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Agreed. I think most games that have a gambleing element either have it as a side-questy thing to get the super-infinty-plus-one sword (Good) or as a way to extend gameplay (bad). Even the old games were not immune, Space Quest and Leisure Suit Larry both had gambleing games you HAD to play and win at to continue the game. Annoying, but such happens.

 

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Re: Obama Campaign Goes Negative with Gambling Game Ad

If only life had a quick save key.

Re: Obama Campaign Goes Negative with Gambling Game Ad

Pretty amateur advert in all honesty.

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 hey, if it stops people believing in that ''Maverick'' bull, then I'm all for it.

Re: Obama Campaign Goes Negative with Gambling Game Ad

We also need peopole to stop believing that "change" bull as well

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We need people to stop believeing all politicians. End of story.

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Re: Obama Campaign Goes Negative with Gambling Game Ad

Not all, but a close 99% of them

Re: Obama Campaign Goes Negative with Gambling Game Ad

No, all of them.
"Wipe them out. All of them."

Re: Obama Campaign Goes Negative with Gambling Game Ad

Hey, GP has said they are newsy, and if he can link to them he will.

And would you rather more palin?

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Didn't we already establish she was a milf? And that GP was a hypocrite for condemning the designer of God of War for saying as such?

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Re: Obama Campaign Goes Negative with Gambling Game Ad

How is GP a hypocrite?  Did he say himself he thought she was a MILF, or have we lumped our offensive statements into the blog's official stance now?

Re: Obama Campaign Goes Negative with Gambling Game Ad

If I recall, it was while she is rather attractive, for a man in his position to say she was a MILF seemed a bit inappropriate.

Which is not hypocritical. And frankly, I agree. Calling her a MILF just seemed off.

Re: Obama Campaign Goes Negative with Gambling Game Ad

I believe the point David Jaffe was trying to make is that when he thought of Sarah Palin, the nicest thing he could say about her is that he would fuck her. In other words, he doesn't agree with her political views in any way, and probably doesn't care for her personally, either. The only thing he found noteworthy about her is that she was a MILF.

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Indeed. And I don't know why being a games designer means he has to sign away his free speech. Just because he's famous and good at what he does; doesn't mean he has to talk responsibly, especially on his own personal blog.

Re: Obama Campaign Goes Negative with Gambling Game Ad

I hear Cheney wants to get a "Shot" at her...

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And the award for most tenuously linked news story of the day goes to......

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One, yeah, it's kind of a strained link to games, though I suppose I won't gripe about this too much.

Two, is this from Obama or just from a pro-Obama camp? To me there's a fair bit of difference between what a candidate will say him/herself and what he/she allows supporters to say.

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Clearly it's not from the campaign itself - all campaign ads have to have that "I approved this message" thing at the end.  Yet another example of sloppy reporting by GamePolitics.  GP really needs to make sure its headlines are somewhat honest.

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Its not straining, its using a "game" and therefore it is a rather direct link.

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Game Politics: Where Politics and Video Games Colide

Dunno, i'm with the other guys on this one. Video Games DO NOT = Games in general.

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I agree.  This isn't even from Obama let alone about videogames.

You're starting to lose me GP...

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 huh?  What does this have to do with game politics?  

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GP: I'm surprised that you would ask what this has to do with games. The ad is obviously using video game tech. In fact, gambling video games have a long history of publication on PC, console & handheld.

If, for example, you search "casino" on GameStop's website you will find about a dozen titles, some of which I've posted here. Search "poker" and you will find several dozen more. Go to the games section of Cnet's downloads.com and search for "casino" there. You'll find a whole bunch of gambling shareware game titles.

 

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Gp

This is the start of the sleepery slope, so its not a a lightweight issue.

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Re: Obama Campaign Goes Negative with Gambling Game Ad

If it was GTA, Halo, or a popular video game that would be one thing, but this has nothing to do with video game politics.

Re: Obama Campaign Goes Negative with Gambling Game Ad

Gaming technology? Or animated images thrown together in a simple movie editor?

Hell, they're using roulette as a metaphor without even mentioning gaming at all. I dare say this has nothing to do with what this site is about. And if it does use video game technology... please edit the article to include that information (including a citation where this was confirmed and what technology we're looking at).

Just because gambling has been in video games doesn't mean anything in this case since the topic has nothing to do with gaming--but the idea of gambling (although the premise of the video suggests the outcome is certain defeating the purpose of the gambling imagery). Else, you should report every politically charged murder, theft, or musical event from a band currently in a rhythm game. Just as appropriate I suppose.

Re: Obama Campaign Goes Negative with Gambling Game Ad

It's... a political ad... using gaming imagery. Do I need to draw a diagram?

Re: Obama Campaign Goes Negative with Gambling Game Ad

gambeling imagery is not gaming imagery

Re: Obama Campaign Goes Negative with Gambling Game Ad

That is precisely what it is. However it is not video gaming imagery.

Re: Obama Campaign Goes Negative with Gambling Game Ad

Agreed, there's a game here, but no video game

Next we'l be tracking Parker Brothers Monopoly sales....

 
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