Ultra-Conservative Student Group Criticized over Border Patrol Game

September 14, 2008 -

A watchdog group has criticized the controversial Michigan State University chapter of the Young Americans for Freedom for promoting Border Patrol, a racist Flash game released in 2006.

The charge came after MSU YAF linked to Border Patrol via a recent blog post.

YAF Watch, a site dedicated to tracking activities of the MSU YAF, writes:

The game, Border Patrol, encourages the player to shoot Mexican immigrants dashing over the border. When the player shoots one of the immigrants, a blood splatter appears. The various targets for the player include a pregnant woman, a baby and man carrying a backpack...

 

This is not the first time YAF has been involved in degrading immigrants. They first made headlines with a proposed "Catch An Illegal Immigrant" game in 2006. The game would have featured a person portraying an illegal immigrant, and encourage game players hunting the person down. The game was condemned by MSU officials, including President Lou Anna K Simmons. It eventually was canceled.

According to Wikipedia, the MSU YAF was cited as a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center in 2006. In 2007 the group hosted Chris Simcox, head of the Minuteman Civil Defense League, a group which aggressively targets illegal immigration.

Border Patrol, anonymously released to the Internet, has been widely condemned. As GP correspondent Colin McInnes wrote in our original 2006 coverage:

Most of the debate about illegal immigration centers on America's border with Mexico, so it's especially troubling that in Border Patrol the player's tasks include shooting "Mexican nationalists," "drug dealers," and "breeders" - pregnant Mexican women - who try to rush the border towards a welfare office.

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Re: Ultra-Conservative Student Group Criticized over Border

Conservatives over-reacting in a bigoted way to an issue they don't understand? Why am I not surprised.

 

I have a freind who works at a restaraunt here. He's the guy who has his job threatened by illegal immigration daily. It's a shame our country doesn't have the economic space for this guy to prosper, he's smart, competent, he deserves to be able to work for a decent wage.

 

It's a shame that we fucked over south america for decades, breaking their economy for short term profit, ultimately leaving them no choice but to immigrate here.

 

This is a complex issue people. There are no good answers to it.

 

Well no, that's not true. There are good answers to it. Stop fucking over the third world, and focus on organizing a sustainable robust economy here.

Re: Ultra-Conservative Student Group Criticized over Border

Immigants, I knew it was the immigants.  Even when I thought it was the bears, I knew it was the immigants!

Wait, wait one more.

If I could be a superhero
I'd be Immigration dude
I’d send all the foreigners back to their homes
For eating up all of our food
And taking our welfare and best jobs to boot
Like landscaping, dishwashing, picking our fruit
I’d pass a lot of laws to get rid of their food
‘Cause I’d be Immigration Dude

 

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Re: Ultra-Conservative Student Group Criticized over Border

yea there is a ton of games like this get over it.

Re: Ultra-Conservative Student Group Criticized over Border

Fluff story, haha

I think it is a sign of how people are pissed that our government refuses to protect our boarders due to lack of funding for the boarder potrol, and we need to invade mexico and take out those god damn drug dealers and such that are making the whole situation at lot worse than it needs to be.

Re: Ultra-Conservative Student Group Criticized over Border

Damn, I left out they need to point out the mexicans going across the boarder are drug smugglers and such

Re: Ultra-Conservative Student Group Criticized over Border

Well we might be offended in shooting live Mexicans or any other people, what about the Affican Zombies (I don't want to use the term Black as i know that is well and truly rasist to other people's opinion, so I just use the term Affrican)

Remember that is it well and truly possible for people to call the Resident Evil 5 game rasist while RE 0-4 have been shooting paler European or American Zombies.

Also while I don't like shooting pregnant women in games, I do feel that as a game that focuses on immigration issue there will always be cases when men women AND children get involved in immigration issues.

Same thing happens here in Australia where I come from.

If the world was not so stuffed up and the gap between the have and the have nots was not as big then we would not have this problem in the first place.

Re: Ultra-Conservative Student Group Criticized over Border

"I don't want to use the term Black as i know that is well and truly rasist to other people's opinion"

How the hell is the term 'black' racist? It's the common nickname for a dark skinned person. Oh and how can you be racist to other people's opinion? That phrase makes no sense.

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Re: Ultra-Conservative Student Group Criticized over Border

I think the main reason they come here is because of all of the bennifits they get, and how much better America is than some of the parts of Mexico where they live.

The easiest way to fix this is to cut off the bennifits that Illegals get, belive me I live in Arizona and if this keeps up, my state and other states near the boarder are screwed.

Re: Ultra-Conservative Student Group Criticized over Border

You do realise that you don't actually have to pay them, right?

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Re: Ultra-Conservative Student Group Criticized over Border

"

I think the main reason they come here is because of all of the bennifits they get, and how much better America is than some of the parts of Mexico where they live.

The easiest way to fix this is to cut off the bennifits that Illegals get, belive me I live in Arizona and if this keeps up, my state and other states near the boarder are screwed.

"

This is true to a point you cannot get 80% of benfits without a legit socail secuirty number,  the funny thing is they pay taxes into social security(whitch they will never get) and they pay most taxes because federal tax is done through the employer and unless the emploer wants to get in trouble with the IRS they generally do it correctly.

State taxes are also paid as they rent or won homes and land they HAVE to pay taxes on it, so 80-95% of the "do not pay taxes misnomers" is just that a misnomer.
The true damage is done is when you have an area flooded with people local agenties that help the poor are stained you have a influx of cheap labor driving down wages in some markets and you have a imbalance of people who may or may not pay for hospital/health care and the hospital this can mean more and more losses, but then again hospitals are a part of the broken healthcare system in the states so it jsut shows how bad things are when hospitals can not bare it.


It is a burden on local city's and towns some can deal with it some can't, in the end we have to count heads and send workers back to work with proper paper work until immigration is overhauled, the government needs money and by putting workers back to work and gettign that tax rev, by all means toss the criminals out, but much like modchips and backups they are are not "illicit".

 

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Re: Ultra-Conservative Student Group Criticized over Border

I love bennifits

Re: Ultra-Conservative Student Group Criticized over Border

We should be friends with bennifits.

Re: Ultra-Conservative Student Group Criticized over Border

bennefits is in my T-Mobile Top 5.

Re: Ultra-Conservative Student Group Criticized over Border

I thought that Conservatives were supposed to be pro-life. Oh well, I guess one can make an exception for Mexican babies...

that's sarcasm by the way...

 

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Re: Ultra-Conservative Student Group Criticized over Border

 Don't you know that small government and personal freedom are great, as long as you don't use that freedom to do things that offend us.

Re: Ultra-Conservative Student Group Criticized over Border

I could say the same thing back to you Anonymous.

It is all a belief what what offends us and what doesn't.

It is a matter of taste.

And that is why we have the ESRB ratings, not only are they there to help parents understand what type of audience this game is catered for, but the ESRB ratings are there for people to understand that games with E for everyone contain less or little subjet matter that could be offensive, like the concept of Evolution in games like Pokemon and Spore.

to the T rating that contains a few things that would be offencive like the clothing on male and female characters and death and medium level violence

To the M17+ games that are rated for High Level Violence, red blood and realistic killings that even though they are not real, they can be offencive to some people's taste.

So in all, I find your comment Anoymous a bit too much like a JT comment because personal freedom is ALWAYS going to offend some people and trying so hard not to offend people is impossible because it shows you don't have real freedom to make a product that all it is is for entertainment.

Re: Ultra-Conservative Student Group Criticized over Border

Psst. Tongue in cheek...

Offtopic: My CAPTCHA code just made an NPH reference. What do I win?

Re: Ultra-Conservative Student Group Criticized over Border

They need to fix the system, so more immigrants will take the legal ways.

Michigan seems like a weird state to be focusing on an issue like that.                                                

Re: Ultra-Conservative Student Group Criticized over Border

I'm offended by the idea of shooting pregnant women (for obvious reasons). I'm not offended by the idea of shooting Illegal Immigrants, but overall I think they could be deported instead.

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Re: Ultra-Conservative Student Group Criticized over Border

You're not offended by the idea of shooting illegal immigrants? Buddy, why don't you move down here to Arizona then and show your true feelings. That way you can be indoctrinated into the ways of automatically thinking light brown skin or Hispanic sounding names equals illegal, and just be with a fellow population of violent arseholes who are more than happy to consider a gun to be the solution needed for any problem.

Re: Ultra-Conservative Student Group Criticized over Border

I'm not offended by the idea of shooting many groups. I'd just prefer not to waste ammunition.

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Re: Ultra-Conservative Student Group Criticized over Border

Maybe they should look behind the reasons for illegal immigration, one of which is farmers in mexico who are losing out due to NAFTA and thus are forced to move here.   

Re: Ultra-Conservative Student Group Criticized over Border

Its aprt of the elists pla to join the US,CA and mexico, good lord we all know CA dose not want to take care of us all :X

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Re: Ultra-Conservative Student Group Criticized over Border

So.. in other words, your plan to join the US, Canada and Mexico?

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Re: Ultra-Conservative Student Group Criticized over Border

 Saying this game is racist is like saying we discriminate criminals by puting them in jail. This game is to the extreme, but we see that in media everyday.

Re: Ultra-Conservative Student Group Criticized over Border

Are you trolling, or are you actually suggesting that shooting unarmed people is akin to putting criminals in jail?

Re: Ultra-Conservative Student Group Criticized over Border

Some people(more than half/more than a million) in our prisons are there for lesser crimes then illegally invading a sovereign nation...(they shouldn't be in prison at all but that is a different story)

So while shooting real illegal aliens is going too far, shooting fake ones in a harmless computer game isn't going anywhere near a moral line...

This being made by a hate group for the purposes of spreading hate is... though I am not certain if it is to spread hate or to make people see the tens of millions of people coming here and putting a strain on our messed up economy as the enemy which must be gotten rid of(not through murder: putting a target on some criminal is a common way of making you think of all criminals like that us the enemy so the shootting part of the game may be hyperbole for fighting back which is in bad taste but legitamate).

I don't really know what to think of it...

We defended the 'night of bush hunting' and this seems very similar to me...

Re: Ultra-Conservative Student Group Criticized over Border

No, but killing random people with chainsaws, cocktails, and cars isn't something you should do, but we still defend GTA.

Re: Ultra-Conservative Student Group Criticized over Border

The difference, I think, is that the people who make GTA don't hold views that are borderline similar to the attitudes represented in the game's fictional universe. The Border Patrol game is part of an overall message of hate, while GTA is not.

I don't think the Border Patrol game should be censored, but it's far more worthy of criticism than GTA.

Re: Ultra-Conservative Student Group Criticized over Border

I do see your point, and I do agree. But we are getting away from the original point. This game maybe doesn't have the best taste in the world, but one thing it isn't is racist.

Re: Ultra-Conservative Student Group Criticized over Border

Really? You don't think shooting at blatant Mexican stereotypes is racist?

Re: Ultra-Conservative Student Group Criticized over Border

Only if San Andreas was racist as well.

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Re: Ultra-Conservative Student Group Criticized over Border

It's called Parody, idiot. San Andreas (and all other GTA games) was a parody of American society and culture at large. GTA:IV is a parody of the American Dream, in fact Niko often laments about the myth/death of the American Dream. Bully was also a parody.

Border Patrol is racist; it is not a parody. It's a game where the premise is that you're defending America from the dirty Mexicans who are all belligerant alcoholics, single mothers (aka Whores, if you're ultra-conservative), and lazy dirty bums by shooting them. Honestly, if you can't see why that premise is racist, then you have no business breathing.

Go read a book.

Re: Ultra-Conservative Student Group Criticized over Border

No. As I previously noted, the fact that this game is intentionally associated with a real-world message of hate makes it different than games like GTA which are strictly for players' entertainment. "Border Patrol" is political, GTA is just fun.

Re: Ultra-Conservative Student Group Criticized over Border

You don't get points for killing random people in GTA.

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Re: Ultra-Conservative Student Group Criticized over Border

Oh right, so shooting random people for points is bad, but shooting random people 'because you can' is ok?


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Re: Ultra-Conservative Student Group Criticized over Border

You shoot random people in GTA?  Why?  What purpose does that serve.

Re: Ultra-Conservative Student Group Criticized over Border

You definatly have to shoot innocent people in GTA at one point during the storyline. Or kill someone as an overreaction, just like in this game.

Re: Ultra-Conservative Student Group Criticized over Border

Because I can.

-------------------------------------------------- I LIKE the fence. I get 2 groups to laugh at then.

Re: Ultra-Conservative Student Group Criticized over Border

Then the problem isn't GTA.  Its you.

Re: Ultra-Conservative Student Group Criticized over Border

I though there weren't any ultra conservatives in MSU?  To think such idiots are a few miles away.

Re: Ultra-Conservative Student Group Criticized over Border

Ultra-Conservatives making a game where you shoot pregnant women? Oh their hypocrisy is showing.

Re: Ultra-Conservative Student Group Criticized over Border

The problem with the border is the government refuses to do anything about it and politics uses the cheap labor for business and a voting block....... its a mess made by the bureaucracy "we" admire ad never do anything to ix.....

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Re: Ultra-Conservative Student Group Criticized over Border

on a technicality, shooting the Mexican nationalists in the game should be okay, seeing as they're armed and appear likely to cause mass shootings thenselves.

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Re: Ultra-Conservative Student Group Criticized over Border

Lol racists.  Taking ignorance to new levels.

Re: Ultra-Conservative Student Group Criticized over Border

Kurisu, what area of Michigan are you from? I'm in Auburn, like...in between Bay City and Midland. Just curious.

Anyhow, how fun. My sister is going to MSU. I'll have to tell her about these idiots, I'm sure she'd like to know what to avoid like the plague.

Re: Ultra-Conservative Student Group Criticized over Border

White Lake. I won't get any more specific than that.

Re: Ultra-Conservative Student Group Criticized over Border

No way, I'm in my senior year at Lakeland, live in Highland though

Re: Ultra-Conservative Student Group Criticized over Border

*blink blink* I, went to that high school

Re: Ultra-Conservative Student Group Criticized over Border

Wow, small world. Really small world

 
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