Debate Night: Obama's Unofficial Game

September 16, 2008 -

Over at Water Cooler Games, Ian Bogost points us to Debate Night: Obama's Unofficial Game:

Gameplay is derived from Zuma-type games; the player chooses a key issue (represented iconographically) and then uses a match-and-move gesture to swap their positions. Match three or more and they disappear, the equivalent of volleying successfully in the debate.


The game both acts as a quality piece of interactive media in support of the campaign and a subtle critique of the process itself, since the issues themselves matter less in the campaign than the way they are repositioned.

Debate Night was designed by Gonzalo Frasca, who collaborated on the Dean for Iowa game during the 2004 Democratic primaries.

Thanks to: GP correspondent Andrew Eisen for the heads-up on Debate Night.


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There's a homebrew Obama game for DS:

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What is a teleprompter in this game?


Easy mode? Powerup? Eleventh Hour Super Power? (because we all know how bad Obama does without one)

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Right, because all that ad-libbing McCain and Palin does equals oratory genius.

"And it is, it's - people are frightened by these events. Our economy, I think, still, the fundamentals of our economy are strong but these are very, very difficult times." -- John McCain as Lehman Bros. collapsed, Merrill Lynch was purchased and bailed out by Bank of America and AIG is desperately raising capital to prevent collapse.

And Sarah Palin--Speaking before voters in Colorado Springs, the Republican vice presidential nominee claimed that lending giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac had "gotten too big and too expensive to the taxpayers." Completely oblivious to the fact that at the time of the statement they were private institutions prior to a public bailout...the largest socialization of the U.S. business landscape in history under a so-called conservative administration. But don't worry...she can see Russia from her house!

There are a lot of criticisms you can lob at Barack Obama, and some of them legitimate, but c'mon, even his opponents have accused him of making "pretty" speeches to large crowds without benefit of prompters.

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So Caplitism and the free market aren't strong fundamentals anymore?

Well, seeing as how The Chosen One shows a strong affinity for Marxism...

Note to mention that Palin's telepromopter malfunctioned at the RNC and she did perfectly fine without it...



Everytime Obama goes of the teleprompter, he makes blantant factual errors or other wise says something stupid, and he can't even remeber that Palin's joke (something she adlibed by the way) was about a pitbull, not a pig.

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Pfft...the free market works when it's actually free. Unfortunately, the current problem on Wall Street has much to do with a lack of transparency and outright confounding of regulations that are meant to keep competition flowing. The problem with this "unfettered" free market that the McSame-icans keep pushing is that it involves the cynical disruption of the capitalist ideal for immediate gains. Is it sound, fundamental economic strategy, or even capitalist ideology, to allow financial institutions to underwrite unstable and risky ventures because they already know they'll be receiving a federal bailout? Or how about the completely opaque world of credit swapping that threatens AIG and all the institutions they back and insure? Does it make sense that each time we let regulations become outmoded and inflexible that we have the Keating 5 S&L scandal (something McCain apparently was COMPLETELY oblivious of despite being right in the midst of it...which either speaks to his dishonesty or rather his complete incompetency in terms of financial regulatory matters), Enron, Worldcom, Adelphia, etc...All guilty of shading the truth of their books and relying on obscure, easily manipulated accounting measures that was barely put under some control by the passage of Sarbanes-Oxley (an ACTUAL REGULATION for all of you so-called free marketeers)? Is that a fair and free market?

Go ahead, throw around the word "marxism" as if it really has any bearing on a system that is hellbent on proffering welfare incentives for Fortune 500 corporations. It's not a question of hard ideologies as some neocon, right-wing tax dodger would like to believe or even lefty-tree-hugging state socialist liberals, but rather a balance of maintaining a sustainable and free economy with basic, flexible guidelines to prevent the worst abuses, not waiting until the crisis erupts each time and say "Hey, I'm going to tell my best contributors on Wall Street (and not to mention best friends) to stop taking home lots of cash" which is disingenuous at best.

NOTE: Many things seem to malfunction at the RNC including the eerie green background behind John McCain. Of course, it's nice to see that Sarah Palin could remember a prepped speech to give to a largely partisan crowd without benefit of teleprompter. Her problem is when anyone asks her an actual question, those same rehearsed lines seem to follow as well.

Of course, the old fashioned term of putting "lipstick on a pig" once used by John McCain to describe Hillary Clinton's Health Care plan is of course forgotten and converted to a "personal attack" on Sarah Palin when it's convenient for McSame's supporters to cry about outrage and sexism when almost every one of them (including Sarah Palin) used to dismiss Hillary Clinton's complaints as "whining".


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I don't approve of goverment bail outs, and I don't see McCain doing so either, what was the point of that wall of text?


Lets see, OBama 1.preechs the redestibution of wealth (a socialist tenat) 2.Has strong assocations with radical marxists. 3. admits in his book (Dreams from my father) his disturbing feelings for socialism. All the Obama bots can come up with is "tossing that word around"... Oh and there is the matter of a missing senior essay...


and a health care plan is an inanimate object, saying that to a liveing person is differnt...

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 1.Oh, look, you're lying: This is the same accusation that has been leveled as every single democrat and porgressive candidate since FDR. There is a difference between taxing corporations making record profits and the richest 1% of Americans to finance social programs and relieve a record deficit and ''COOOOMMMUUUNNNISTT! Run for the hills!!!". The technical term is social democracy, but Obama's not even going that far. 2. No he doesn't. Even Fox thought that this accusation was such BS that they refusedd to let a ad that insinuated this run. FOX thought it was bullshit. 3. sigh.. see number one. Why are Obama supporters bots? If this little eschange is anything to go by, their better informed than their conservative counterparts.

Oh and there is the matter of a missing senior essay...

oh, look you're lying again :



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 What? What's that supposed to signify?

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The "wall of text" was my argument with a wealth of evidence to back up my opinion. I'm sorry if my use of too many words doesn't resemble incomplete phrases, blatant spelling mistakes and Internet rumors more fit for than a political forum. That's just the way I roll.

As for McCain on 'bailouts':

“Those institutions, Fannie and Freddie, have been responsible for millions of Americans to be able to own their own homes, and they will not fail, we will not allow them to fail,’’ Mr. McCain said during a stop at the Senate Coney Island Restaurant here. “They are vital to Americans’ ability to own their own homes. And we will do what’s necessary to make sure that they continue that function.’’ -- Livonia, MI - July 10, 2008

Of course, we have to BAIL these corporations out now, after 8 years of the same lack of oversight and inability to actually reign in the capital markets with anything other than a 'tsk-tsk'...years of a laissez-faire economic policy that resembles the oh so successful stewardship of the robber baron age of the 19th Century or Herbert Hoover who stated that:

"The fundamental business of the country is on a sound and prosperous basis."

The day after the Stock Market Crash of 1929. Y'know, when we ignored all those pesky regulations or didn't have any to begin with. A free market must maintain actual rules for it to remain free, otherwise we would never have felt the need to require the Sherman Antitrust Act, the Clayton Antitrust Act, the FDIC, Sarbanes-Oxley Compliance Act, and the Financial Services Regulatory Relief Act. Of course, we still need better, more complete regulations to deal with the accounting and technological advances of today...something for which John McCain is just not equipped.

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Yes yes, because Democrats don't have any ties/interest (especially financially) to any of these financial institutions. Guess which administration was in charge when the wheels started turning on that led to all the "wonderful" predatory lending practices. I'll give you a hint, it's not the current administration headed by the Curious George.

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Also, geuss what politcal party quite a bit in campagin contributions from them...


Also geuss who came in 2nd for amount of money recived...







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A.) In 1994, both houses of Congress were taken over by the Republicans. Bill Clinton made some mistakes, but largely, deregulation language came from those Republican hands. Of course, McCain wasn't present for the Gramm-Leach-Biley Act, so we don't know how he actually felt about it. If you want to back further, let's look at the deregulation during the Reagan years, or even another Democrat, Jimmy Carter. Just because those guys did it, doesn't mean Obama will. However, McCain pretty much promises the same exact ineptness and slow response as the Bush administration and the 13 years of Republican congressional control.

B) Campaign contributions attributed by Lehman Bros and Merril Lynch employees are individual contributions as corporations can't contribute as entities, and having worked on Wall Street myself, the majority of middle-management to lower level employees tend to vote Democrat in New York City as well. Meanwhile, more executive level large-scale donors tend to contribute to John McCain:

From the Wall Street Journal:

But in the months after the two started to square off as their parties' likely nominees, Sen. Obama maintained only a slight financial edge overall, while Sen. McCain claimed the advantage among top industry donors.

Sen. McCain's fund-raising advantage among corporate America is a stark reversal from earlier this year, when he struggled to secure donations from executives. In the Republican primary, many executives backed Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, partly because he is a former businessman and partly because Sen. McCain has long battled with industry as a member of the Senate.

According to an analysis of fund-raising data released Thursday by the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics, Sen. McCain raised more money in June and July from larger donors in 15 of the top-donating 25 industries than did Sen. Obama.

The Republican nominee drew more donations from executives at oil and gas, real-estate, securities and investment and insurance companies, the data showed. He raised $22.3 million from the top 25 industries in the two-month period, compared with Sen. Obama's $19.9 million.

Both parties accept huge donations from business and industry oriented PACs, there's no denying that. But, if you think that somehow Oil and big Finance CEO's favor Barack Obama in PAC spending and individual executive contribution, you are sadly mistaken.

C. Because he has a nuanced and educated approach to finance that ultimately does not lock into the pure idealogy of deregulate or cut all taxes for everyone or the government doesn't work so let's let it fail, does not make him a Marxist. In fact, Warren Buffet, a consummately savvy capitalist, is a major supporter of Barack Obama. Why don't you accuse Mr. Buffet of being a commie?

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Oh want to know why they needed to be bailed out?


The democrats under clinton forced them to make questionable choices.

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Republicans controlled both house and senate under clinton. i love the smell of burning ignorance in the morning.

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Anonytroll doesn't recognise a candidate able to give measured, intellectual answers without reeling off talking points.

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You obviously missed the saddleback forum, as well as various other times Obama was off his telepromopter, boy did he fail, I mean he listed his biggest desicion as vote he physically couldn't have made...

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You mean the Saddleback Forum where McCain was NOT in the "Cone of Silence" as originally stated, but rather on his way via motorcade?

The Saddleback Forum where suspicious exchanges like:










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I stoped reading after you claims McCain cheated...


Seriously, can the obamabots do anything other then claim McCain cheated? Even if McCain did cheat, I don't see how that makes Obama say he made votes he physically couldn't have...

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I like the the picture of John McCain there.  That's almost as good as the one they got of him in The Atlantic that made him look like Boris freakin' Karloff!

Between that and Tina Fey's portrayal of Palin that really helped make clear just how much of an idiot she really is, it has not been very good image-wise for their campaign.  Just the latest in a series of missteps for their campaign that ultimately will only help Obama.

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Now THIS is game Politics.

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Can you Americans just vote on the next president already!

-------------------------------------------------- I LIKE the fence. I get 2 groups to laugh at then.

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No kidding. Canada just announced it's Election a week or so ago, and we're going to the polls in October.

Americans start talking about this WAY too early. Maybe it's the only way to ease the pain of bush.

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I admit, Bush was a fuggin' dumbass. If I had voted back in 04 I would have only voted for Bush just to give him a chance to atone for his stupidity. I mean, deposing Saddam Hussein is one thing, but everything else we've been doing there, and are doing today, and most likely will be doing tomorrow, is irrevocably POINTLESS.





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That, and we can't trust these bastards so we have to put them on the stand until they start revealing each other's secrets...  Unluckily it looks like they need to be on the stand for 4 years trying to become president before they will reveal what we want to really know.  All the dirty underhanded deals they have made...  We know McCain is dirtier, he has been in the system longer, and buddies up with big oil supporters.

We have idiots that want to pay $8/gallon and outlaw abortion, instead of having electric cars and allowing someone to have the choice to have an abortion.  That is how my friend sees is pretty much at least.  Oil companies are destroying this country because other companies are having too hard of a time adjusting to the ever changing gas prices, then the people have to adjust because they need to make enough money to pay for the gas, food prices that are going up too, and everything else.  If they would just cap the oil companies and tell them to screw themselves, we wouldnt be having the issues we are.  Maybe more importantly, tell them we can do without, because solar is not only ready, but we have a desert we could turn into a solar panel forest, and make enough energy to power the whole country, and still not fill up even 1% of the desert.

What the hell do I know, I'm just some crazy tree hugging hippy that could give a damn less if global warming is real, I rather my wallet not get raped by some greedy A-hole.

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I prefer a greater proportion of wind power over solar, but other than that I'm with you. Oil is a true dinosaur fuel now, in the sense that it should be phased out and the era of oil discovery is way past its prime. We should just remember to tell those alternative-energy environmentalists to not complain about gas prices. Higher gas prices are good- it makes exploring other energy sources more economically viable.

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Re: Debate Night: Obama's Unofficial Game Pork Invaders.

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No, this is game enough.  Just a really bad game that is a knock off of other better games with a slight rule change from another game.  All in all, it just isn't that good of a game...

If I got paided for skipping work and making a game to replace it, I wouldn't have a problem with doing that.

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Well, at least they didn't rip off the whack-a-mole or run-n-gun style in this one.  Zuma was essentially a linear Bust-A-Move anyway, so it's another case of everything old being new again.

I'm surprised there hasn't been more opportunism, actually.  You'd think there'd be Obama-tris, McCain-Cannon, Palin Defends Her Alaskan Stronghold, Joe Biden's Completely Unrelated Poker Challenge, and so forth...

The Mammon Industry


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Except for matching like-colored bubbles, I don't see how Zuma is almost like Bust-a-move. Then I could say that Puyo Pop is also like bust-a-move.

I prefer the style of Luxor over Zuma anyways.

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True... They could make a tetris where different politicians are different shapes, at least that would be funny.  This didn't even hit my funny bone.

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Before the crapflood of NOTGAMEYENOUGH crowd starts, I think its great that people even CAN make this sort of media. It shows we DO have a voice, even if we dont exercise it enough.

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