GamePolitics has learned from embattled Miami attorney Jack Thompson that he will appear on an upcoming episode of Penn & Teller: Bullshit. The irreverent, issue-oriented series airs on the Showtime cable network.
Although we have little additional information, it is believed that the program will focus on the video game violence issue and will likely air in the spring.
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As Jack would say, this should be fun.
Man Fuck jack thompson! As you can see I don't even respect his ass enough to use capital letters in his name!
My role model is Samuel L. Motherfuckin Jackson!!
[GP: deleted in part. Shell, how about lightening up a bit, eh?]
Samuel L. Jackson would be ashamed, Shell. ULTIMATE Fail.
Thanks for editing, Dennis.
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I AM DOOMED TO HAUNT JACK THOMPSON'S DREAMS UNTIL HIS CRUSADE AGAINST VIDEO GAMES ENDS.
Come to join the last, pathetic battle of the anti-gamers? But on which side, I wonder?
The views expressed on BS are typically liberal, but I wouldn't put anything past these dorks. I've seen the show and whether I agree with their views (more often than not), I mean no small form of the phrase when I say,
"They've got issues!"
Penn & Tellers views are libertarian not liberal.
They almost certainly will side with gamers not JT.
I liked this show before they became so libertarian. Libertarians are a joke themselves, so to see penn and teller not attack their bullshit was disapointing.
They've always been libertarian so long as the show has been around. Hell, they were libertarian even before then. Also, to say that libertarians are a joke shows that you don't quite understand what they really are. Such founding fathers such as Jefferson would probably be labeled today as libertarian.
And besides, with the hole they'll probably be tearing JT this spring, you'll learn to love them...or at least that episode.
Libertarianism was relevant when the constitution was written. So was slavery and wether or not women could vote. Today they are about as relevant as the free soil party. And Jefferson was certainitely conservative, but not libertarian. And yes, i am aware this may offend people because liberatrainism is the internets political belief, i'm not trolling just commenting. But, anyway, yeah looking forward to the show.
Congratulations, you have no idea what libertarianism is.
Just so we're clear on what libertarianism is
Free market capitalism + small/limited government + lots of civil liberties (gay marraige, drugs, guns, what have you)
i know exactly what libertarianism is, and it's insistence on miniscule government is what makes it outdated. Even conservatives these days know that. Small government is like communism in that it's a nice idea, but it really doesn't work out. There's a reason that it's a minority party these days. But like i said, it's the internets political belief.
Dude I know lots of conservatives that want small government, I know liberals that want smaller government as well. But look at how big our government is, and it look at all the things it manages to fuck up. Here's another thought the bigger the government is the more taxes we have to pay, the easier it would be for them to seize power and the harder it would be to fight that government.
Now explain to me why generally small governments are a bad thing.
P.S. I've heard lots of people complain that the 2nd and 3rd amendments are outdated but that doesn't mean they're bad ideas and that we should get rid of them.
Let me clarify, explain to me why having as small a government as possible while still letting it be big enough to function is a bad thing.
They aren't bad, just outdated. They were fine back when problems were local and could be dealt with as such, and big government would just interfere. But for the last 50 years, problems have incresingly quickly become more global, (e.g. global warming, terrorisim) that require action on a larger level. Small governments are also by thier very nature short- sighted in that they only deal with the immediate needs of their constituents, (portection, education). More powerful institutions are capable of doing things that don't neccesarily provide immediate benefit. A samller govt. would not have put a man on the moon. A smaller govt. would not have made the louisiana purchase. Also, some things in society need to be done, but don't have enough potential for profit to interest corporations (e.g. welfare, police). And the fact is that somethings are just better off not run by market forces. Even Adam smith admits this. Govt. is also neede because corporations have done a hell of a job showing that they will not play nice without rules and regualtion (enron). The truth is, government is no the heart of every problem, and less govt. is not the solution. Like I said, it's just outdated.
I haven't found anyone who thinks that government should be so small that it could not enforce the laws of the land or protect us from terrorists and hostile nations. As for welfare I've heard some people (ok penn himself, but not on bullshit) talk about private charity taking some of the burden of helping people, not sure how well that will work so ... yeah.
You're probably right about the Lousiana purchase bit and Nasa (speaking of which have you seen the bullshit episode about Nasa, it's quite good (and no they don't say funding should be cut)). Although I guess maybe if they asked it's citizens for a tax hike for them... never mind.
I think it's a case of some people thinking that gov't has gotten too big and wants to cut it down to size. [insert complaints about beuracracy and useless agencies here]
It's a trap!
"Then there's THIS a**hole" :)
That was my first thought.
"Then there's THIS a**hole"
You know they're going to say that
"The irreverent, issue-oriented series..."
I will have you know Dennis thats one of my fave shows you're knocking there!
Well...I would imagine that P&T would even say that their show is irreverent to anything other than America. I mean...the show is called bullshit.
And yes...I love that show as well, and I have a feeling I'll love it even more when this episode comes out
I know Jack is horny for television face time, but Penn and Teller? Ow. The raping these two are going to give him is going to be so epic even I might feel sorry for him.
This should be funny.
They are going to bend Jack over and make him squeel like a little piggy for his momma.
The man who trades freedom for security does not deserve nor will he ever receive either. ~ Benjamin Franklin
Suit from Jack trying to stop the airing in 3....2...1...
ROFLCOPTER
GOOD ONE!!!
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These guys aren't exactly the types who bow to religious zealots. I expect him to threaten to sue for libel/slander and being part of the conspiracy against him. However, the poor man needs to raise as much $$ as he can before he loses his job.
Thats why they've made a show all about scientology. Oh wait, no they havn't.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRYsjMrHnvQ&feature=related
Showtime doesn't want them to do scientology, they haven't pushed for it. And Scientology is a punching bag and they generally do things people take for granted. (paraphrased from link)
I thought Penn also said that he thought South Park did a good enough job on it anyway.
Stone & Parker did it simply because Showtime stopped Penn & Teller. Thats why we dont see Chef anymore.
You also don't see Chef anymore because Isaac Hayes died...
Isaac Hayes quit South Park due to the episode on Scientology. That's why they had the episode where they killed Chef off. Then he died. The scientology thing came first, though.
Well, if anyone knows about bulls***, it's him. :P (Yeah, I went with the easy one, so sue me. :P)
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Uhhhhhhhhhh... WOW!
Part of me can't believe he would go on that show since I am certain they would not kowtow to his demands on how any Q&A would go. And one would think that John Bruce Thompson is at least of sound enough mind to know that he & they do not share the same ideals.
Well, it should be interesting to say the least, though I am going to have to wait until it comes out on the tubes though, since I do not get Showtime.
They have mentioned something along the lines of this on their show. "Why would someone with an opposing view of the show agree to appear on it?" They said that these people usually feel that they are absolutely right and infallible with their views and are thus unafraid of any reprisal. Sounds like JT to the....well...T.
This is gonna be gooooood
Now that should be entertaining.
I can't WAIT to see this episode. They'll absolutely destroy the old man in seconds flat. XD Go Penn & Teller.
Life begins and ends with Choice. Anything in your life that unlawfully or immorally steals Choice from you should be excised immediately, totally, and destroyed utterly.
This is going to be great. My guess is that Jack doesn't realize just what kind of show it is, or he thinks they share his view. In typical P&T fashion they probably let him spew his nonsense for as long as he wanted, letting him feel comfortable that he was in the right. Wait until they start pausing and dissecting his theories... Priceless TV in the making. Thank god I finally have Showtime. This will be saved on my DVR for all time.
No, they tell all their guests what the general view of the show is before going on, yet pig headed people who believe that they're absolutely right still go on it anyways.
Interesting that he hasn't popped up on here to say anyting about another TV appearance, but was (at least we think it was him) quickly able to pop up on the article in regards to a study showing good effects for gaming.
Actually I believe he did, I seem to recall his mentioning it a couple weeks ago.
Ah, must have missed it. Thought it was odd that he wasn't trumpeting his whoring of his beliefs over common sense and everybody elses. Appreciate the clear up on that Phoenix! :)
YES. Penn will destroy him, since Thompson stands for everything he hates: religious zealotry, infringing on the first ammendment, bullying, you name it, Penn will reveal it.
YES! I was going to email in a suggestion for this topic but they dotn take them from outside the US, but looks like they saw jack and couldnt resist. Should be entertaining to wait to say the least.
In most cases people go on the show knowing what to expect, but they think they can make a good enough arguement, jack's ego always did get the best of him since he cant argue his way out of a paper bag.
OH HELL YES! I have been hoping for this for years. According to Penn, people keep going on their show to get mocked because they believe they're untouchable and can't be made a fool of. Sound like anyone you know?
I am buying the crap out of the DVD release.
I hope they don't cover it the wrong way..
There's about as much chance of Penn and Teller covering it the other way as there is Jack Thompson winning a court case...
I wouldn't worry about it. They always err on the side of common sense. Jack Thompson will be ripped to shreds. I'm sure he'll come on here saying how well he thought he came off during the interview. Check out some of their episdes here: http://bullshitlinks.blogspot.com/
These are the guys that said porn, prostitution and marijuana should be legal and that the FCC should be done away with, the odds of them saying games should be banned are slim to nothing. They are hardcore libertarians my friend.
Maybe he forgot to ask them what their 'agenda' was.
I can't wait to see it :D.
Penn used to do a column in the back of... was it PC Magazine? Don't remember, but it was pretty dang good. I used to love reading it. I've always been a fan of their magic, but due to a distinct lack of Showtime, I haven't seen that show.
I've hoping that Showtime has some sort of web streaming offer or something, like Hulu. I would love to see that episode.
I'm a bit heartend that it was done correctly by the fact that JT hasn't told everyone to be on the watch for his upcoming appearence. Likely he hasn't seen the finished product either, but he probably has a feeling of what is in store for him.
http://www.sho.com/site/video/brightcove/series/title.do?bcpid=130503288...
Well they have the shows on DVD, I'd recommend getting those. Here's a taste though.
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=oreolvrs1987
EDIT: Oh and since it isn't on DVD this guy posted all of season 6 for your viewing pleasure.
http://www.youtube.com/user/illskeptic
Penn wrote articles for PC-Computing. They're up on the P&T website: http://www.pennandteller.com/03/coolstuff/pennarticles.html
John Bruce has mentioned this before about a month or so ago. He was quite proud of it. I would love to see this.
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*hops around all over the place going "woo-hoo!"*
I hope this is for real and not a comedy sketch like the jace hall one was. Not that that wasn't funny, but I want to see Jack get obliterated.
This will be good, but too bad it's such a long wait.
Penn & Teller are pros and JT is a scrub. In a sportsmanlike fashion they would let JT allow his barrage of repetitive rhetoric. Then they would get serious and counter his points with proper arguments. A few high and low mix-ups later, JT is baffled at why the things he has repeated countless times haven't still gone through, and calls Penn & Teller "cheap and dishonest". He would feel like they weren't playing fairly and he storms off the room.
I never watch the show anyway. I pretty much disagree with half of the comments made in the show.
How can you disagree with something you never watch?
Anythign to get his face on a screen for a few minutes I guess
Since most of us don't have cable, may somebody post this on YouTube? Thank you!
I read about Penn and Teller on Wikipedia and hwo they do around debunking people. Oh my God Jack is going to get destoryed!
-Snow_Storm of the ECA boards!
I'm going to enjoy this.
Since most of us don't have cable, may somebody post this on YouTube? Thank you!
I read about Penn and Teller on Wikipedia and hwo they do around debunking people. Oh my God Jack is going to get destoryed!
-Snow_Storm of the ECA boards!
I'm more curious as to wether his segment has been shot yet, or if they haven't started shooting yet. Should an answer be provided, I'll go more in depth.
Dennis, is this what you call adhering to your no personal attacks and no obscenity posting policy? Jack Thompson
Man Fuck jack thompson! As you can see I don't even respect his ass enough to use capital letters in his name! Somebody must've shoved an Atari joystick up his ass when he was a kid or something!
My role model is Samuel L. Motherfuckin Jackson!!
It's only personal when applied to a human being. My personal feelings rank you somewhere below my dogs. Just wanted to clear that up. Thanks.
Zen
That ranking is still too high...I rank him below the festering, puss filled boil on my dog's rear end.
Agreed, I would rank him around an electron. Floating around in this world, and not even able to do anything unless groups with many other electrons, but still that is just static shock, nothing that really has an effect.
Be patient. Not all posts are immediately removed when posted.
Yours is still pending.
The rules don't apply when it comes to you, remember?
Fuckwad.
Heh, maybe dennis can ban him for real this time now that we know what proxy he's using (in reference to the link he copypasted into his message)
oh by the way JT, you post things like this personally attacking gamers on a daily basis, so you have NO right to complain about people's comments towards you
Good luck finding a job, you're going to need it you filthy hypocrite
YOu honestly think a company, hell even a retrailer store will allow someobdy that is known and was fired for harassing other people because of their viewpoints?
That was kinda my point
, he's going to need all the luck in the world to get a new job
NICE! Epic Fail JT....EPIC FAIL!!!
DANG! You beat me to it!
I'LL GET YOU NEXT TIME, GADG...er, ANONYMOUS!
Aww, Brucey, are the mean internet people hurting your feelings?
You know, for someone who insults Dennis almost daily, you sure run crying to him a lot.
It's not a personal attack. It's a verbal attack. An insult.
People can insult others on the internet. It's not a threat. Gamers aren't standing outside your house with joysticks waiting to thrust them into you.
DC...thats just WRONG! Do you know how hard it is to find a NES Advantage these days?
Hunting the shadows of the troubled dreams.
And why exactly are you using FreeProxyServer.net to access the site? Oh, that's right - YOU WERE B4NH4MMERED 50+ TIMES FOR BEING AN ELITIST ASS!!!
@GP:
I think Jacko's using a proxy to access the site; the "Reply" link he copied from Shell's comment links to the normal reply page, except through a proxy site called FreeProxyServers.net.
Methinks a certain soon-to-be ex-attorney is due up for some M4SS1VE DAM4GE. Your thoughts?
I believe he's been using a proxy to access the site since before the GP site redesign a few months ago, he just slipped up this time posting a link to it, so he'll probably be banned, AGAIN, and we'll get a brief reprieve from him till he finds a new proxy to post from
Don't push it Jack-ass. If Dennis adhered to this policy you wouldn't be able to post here either.
JACK...
SHHH.. NO SHH.. QUIET A SECOND... SHH THATS It... SHHHhhhhhh...
JACK.. come on now jack... didnt you post a while ago that:
'The death penalty should be applied to all gamers'
so Jack... shh.. im speaking.. jack.. thats better... just think about that for a second. Look what you said. DO you think that is an acceptable way to adhere to the no personal attacks and no obscenity posting ?
yeah ...not very nice was it Jack? good boy jack.. thats right.. yes.. you apologise. Goooooood jack.
*see guys JT is fine you just got to talk soothingly to his ego, and not make any sudden movements or sounds that might startle him*
Hey, Jack, scroll up to where that comment is. You'll find that Dennis edited that comment.
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I AM DOOMED TO HAUNT JACK THOMPSON'S DREAMS UNTIL HIS CRUSADE AGAINST VIDEO GAMES ENDS.
I know exactly who they are, what the format of the show is, and what the risks are. Unlike you anonymous cowards, I actually have balls. I have been accused here of being unwilling to submit to a hostile media setting. Apologies please. Jack Thompson
Not going to happen, sir.
There's balls, and then there's roasting yourself on a spit for all to see. We're just going to enjoy ourselves as you get yourself destroyed on TV. So please, throw yourself at every hostile media setting you can. We'll see how fast you crumble into whining about how you were maligned later. My personal bet? 2 days after they air the episode.
Life begins and ends with Choice. Anything in your life that unlawfully or immorally steals Choice from you should be excised immediately, totally, and destroyed utterly.
Anonymous ? Okay then. My real name is Laurens Blei and I live no where near the United States.
I know more about you than you know about me. Granted, I don't no much more of you then what I see of you on the internet, but what I see is astoundingly childish in most regards.
But you don't matter really. Even thought you name is bigger in terms of noticability, I do know that what you do is pretty low.
"My real name is Laurens Blei"
You are so sued.
"I live no where near the United States."
Just because you don't live in the U.S. doesn't mean he isn't going to sue you.
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Ever since you've appeared on G4 I haven't seen anyone complain that you won't go into hostile media settings Jack, although granted I tend to ignore posts about you (no offense).
Robert (if you want my last name just ask for it).
You may have balls but you definitely don't have any brains...
Well you're in for a ruuuuuude awakening.
Then again, maybe not. You are pretty thick-headed.
"unlike you anonymous cowards"
So says "anonymous." LOL
I am Jack's failed sense of irony.
"I'm not responcabel fer my comuter's spleling errnors." -- Xlorep DarkHelm
Of course you're willing to submit to a hostile media setting.
You're an attention whore, and submitting is just what whores do, right?
Ok John, this is the second time I've posted under my real name. What of it? Nothing, that's what. Now if you've done your research before going into this (Which I doubt.) You'd know that Penn has written the forward to one of the most violent pieces of print media in ages. That would be "Preacher" published by DC comics. Having said that, do you think either of them are going to agree with your stance on violence? I highly doubt that. Good luck, hope your ass doesn't get burned to badly.
That was such a horrible comic...yet so good as well lol. Pushed alot of peoples buttons with it's contents, but was a great read. Good call on bringing that one up!
I think it's also notweworthy that their show in Vegas also features some violent content such as this (which I was fortunate enough to see live)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNsGGTt9CTs
Unlike you anonymous cowards, I actually have balls.
only anonymous cowards like you use services such as freeproxyserver.net
and according to Matthew 19:11-12, Jesus said to castrate yourself in order to get into heaven. Better sharpen that knife or prepare your asbestos suit Anonymous.
岩「…Ace beats Jack」
All the balls in the world wont stop you from being legally impotent soon enough.
Apologies.....ummm NO!
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Jack, they are gonna own your ass so bad, you will need diapers for the rest of your life. If one thing I learned about that show, is that nobody is bulletproof. And one thing I´ve learned about you is your arguments are almost equally to ZERO.
What´s the thing about appearing on Bullsh1t, Jack? They are gonna rip you apart every single comment about games or violent media you are gonna to say.
You don´t have "balls". You are just pretty stupid if you think you have any chance to proof any point of view you have about anything you think you represent.
It´s gonna be fun.
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Good luck finding a job you arrogant ass.
Dude that was unnecessary.
Actually, it was. And the reason that's so easy for me to say...err, type...is the fact that Jacky Boy has spent many, many hours being as much of a douchebag as he can possibly be, and now, he needs to find himself a new job because of that.
I absolutely cannot wait, it'll be a beautiful thing.
No way.
I've always wanted them to do an episode on violent video games, but I always thought that if they did they shouldn't put Thompson out there since, well when was the last time you heard Thompson involved in a legal case that didn't involve disbarrment (well ok to be fair I don't think many lawyers continue doing cases when they're facing disbarment).
Anyway I LOVE penn and teller bullshit and I can't wait for this episode.
I wonder if Thompson sounded a little nuts or if he did his TV interview face where he sounds reasonable until you factcheck his claims.
I can only think of a few episodes where they only interviewed one person for the opposing viewpoint, so with that in mind who else do you think they grabbed interviews for.
Oh and who do you think they nabbed for the pro-gaming side? Perhaps if they're still doing interviews Dennis might be next.
Yeah, you've got balls Jack, the only problem is they're sitting in a jar over at Dava Tunis's house.
"There is no sin except stupidity." - Oscar Wilde
OMG... I was hoping they would cover video games... but I was worried they might be against them... and when Penn puts forward his arguments... damn, do they sound convincing...
But if they have Jack Thompson on... by god... I can't wait to hear Penn say, "And then there's this a**hole"... will make me grin for days.
You just know there will be hundreds of Youtube vids of Penn saying that to JT, so we can enjoy it for years and years...
This proves it. There is a god.
<3 P&T
I bet Penn is kicking himself right now for making you think there is.
I expect a play by play Bullshit debunking on ever thing Jacko says. They will probably come to a screaching halt very three words.
"And now, here's that asshole, again." Will be said a lot I think.
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Lets cut to the quick, here is what Penn is most likely to say at the end of the show:
"We're all for parents controlling what thier children can and cannot see or do.. that is just good parenting.. However, the idea that games make kids into murderers or are in any way harmful to otherwise healthy individuals is BULLSHIT"
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They'll dig deep, they'll go to both sides of the "conflict" they will do the research and lay it out in an intelligent, quirky and fun format thier show is popular for. Most importantly they will definatly grind Jack Thompson and his ilks arguments into a fine, bull-shitty paste.
We also have to consider that Penn and Teller don't pull any punches on thier show. JT has shown up on tv recently, and his hosts have always ignored the fact that he's in the middle of being disbarred. But not on Bullshit. They'll come right out and tell the world that Thompson is getting disbarred for literally being an asshole. "Then there's THIS asshole," indeed.
But yeah, Jack Thompson probably doesn't watch the show, otherwise he would know about Penn's personal views on freedoms and zealotry. They probably politely asked him to talk about video game violence, gave him some softball questions, and mostly let him rant. Then they'll go to the editing table and make him look like the idiot that he is.
They might not pull punches, but if he rolls over, goes limp, and tries to make it be all silly, like he's done with previous shows/interviews, then it will become difficult for Penn & Teller to do much about it.
"I'm not responcabel fer my comuter's spleling errnors." -- Xlorep DarkHelm
According to their show they give interviewees copies of past episodes and try to make it clear what side they'll be on.
I wonder which episdes they sent Thompson?
No, Dava Tunis doesn't have them. I still do.
Oh look, you took something completely not about you, made it about you, and then threatened the top dog at the Bar, and a Chief Justice. It's almost like you don't even want to be a lawyer any more.
Kudos, my senile friend.
P.S: When you do something this stupid, normally you don't want to actually forward on to the press, you're supposed to try and cover it up. C'mon Jacko, it's almost getting sad now. Oh who am I kidding, watching you fail has to be every gamer's guilty pleasure. You could even say we enjoy watching you fail as much as Catholic priests like young boys. And yes, that was a shot at your faith. Enjoy.
GP: Don't post documents in here, for the 500th time.... Body of letter deleted.
Are you dividing by zero, or just that fucking stupid? Cut down the spam. God, you're about as computer literate as John McCain.
this is the same Jack Thompson who tried to pass off murdering a cat by locking it in a microwave as perfectly acceptable and humane, as long as video games aren't involved. he's too damn stupid to be allowed to live.
And also that sexual abuse is better for kids than video games. He should never be allowed to live that down, and every media outlet should know he said it.
"Are you dividing by zero, ... ?"
Rule 37. The calculator forbids it.
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Oh that was beautiful. Moments after Jack was claiming he has never broken the rules here he has his post deleted for breaking the rules.
Twice.
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All of the posts you have made which break the posting policies makes any complaint you have against such posts null and void. Sorry Jack-ass. If you want to push the posting policy why don't you follow it?
I have NEVER violated a posting policy here. Never. Name once. On the other hand, Dennis McCauley allows obscenity and libelous statements about me ALL the time. Dennis McCauley even went so far as to file a Bar complaint against me once, claiming how mean I was. The Bar laughed at it and threw it out. Dennis McCauley has one rule: Whatever harms Jack Thompson, no matter, how outlandish and libelous, allow it to be posted. Jack Thompson
While I most certainly don't agree with you, if Dennis actually did such things (yeah, okay, and Cho played Counter-Strike to train for VT too) I don't see any thing wrong with it. Jack Thompson has one rule: Whatever harms video games, no matter, (nice grammar btw, you fail at commas) how outlandish and libelous, allow it to spew forth from thine own mouth. Turnabout is fair play, Jacko.
Dennis did file a bar complaint, however, it was dismissed not because of what Jack said, but because you can only file a Bar complaint when you are a party to a court case (i.e. you are Plaintiff/Defendant/opposing attorney/judge in a court case)
So you haven't called the people here frontal lobe fried children?
Of course you have never been able to prove that. Unlike how it HAS been proven by Dava Tunis that you are a LIAR.
Enjoy your retirement Jack-ass.
In his defense, I hear children taste a lot like chicken, true story.
Actually, like pork.
Trust is the sound of death.
You're obsessed with this site. Get a life and do something meaningful.
we could say the same thing about you from the looks of it.
I comment once and I don't have a life? Are you Jack in disguise?
People are just so f**cking stupid sometimes. I'm not obssesed with this site if I look at it for 15 minutes a day.
Pardon me, he's been useing strings of the same letter as account names for awhile now and i mistook you to be jack. sorry about that.
apology accepted.
I thought you were Jack. sorry about the harsh response.
LOL
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Furtheremore if you want to see just where you broke commenting policy, here you go:
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Jack_Thompson
Hey Jack, your hypocracy is showing.
"I'm not responcabel fer my comuter's spleling errnors." -- Xlorep DarkHelm
And what do you call the walls of text? The personal insults?
If you want the goddamned rules followe,d then set a damn example and follow them.
And for ONCE follow your own advice, turn off the caps lock when typing.
I have NEVER violated a posting policy here. Never. Name once.
CC'ing your letters here is a violation. You've done it twice today right here.
and to pour salt on the wound, "please turn your caps lock off when you type 'never', you dolt." (you said the same thing 2 days ago)
岩「…Ace beats Jack」
Calling someone a liar is not libel, Mr. Thompson. It's a statement. An opinion. What's next, the Thompson Thought Police?
Insutling you, calling you stupid and taunting you are not libel Jack.
And yes Dennis allows profanity so I don't see why that wouldn't apply to you.
Although we do have this thing about large amounts of off-topic stuff.
Actually you have violated a posting policy. Multiple times. Remember when you were banned? Actually the Bar threw out Dennis's complaint because you two do not have a professional relationship. So yes it was dismissed. Lying again to make yourself look like a champ...too bad you are a chump and an idiot.
You know, I figure more than anything, you may have a disassociative disorder. You didn't lie: someone else did, you didn't insult anyone who disagrees with you: us gamers did, you are not trying to deny people 1st Amendment rights: everyone else is.
I'd ask you if you can see my point, except you'll see no other point than your own. There were others who refused outright to compromise and try to see the other person's side; they were called Tyrants, Dictators, Obsessed, and Fantatics. Some of them were even famous for murdering scores of innocents the name of your Christian God and the principals of peace and non-violence that are dictated in your Bible. An odd irony, yes?
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LOL YOU HAVENT BROKEN THE POSTING POLICY???
BWAHAHAHAHAHHAHH! man you are F-U-N-N-Y!
look you had two documents edited by GP today, documents you have been told not to post here HUNDREDS of times!
score
If you dont want to know the scores, please look away...... now..
Society - 992, Jack Thompson - 0
As Penn and Teller will prove in the Spring....
BULLSHIT!
Too bad nobody professional will take you seriously.
You should become an actor after you're disbarred Jack, you are really good at it :)
He'd be type cast as the unhinged lunatic religious fanatic... oh wait...
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Oi, oi, oi.... this is just pathetic now.
And you keep them in your mouth, much like a squirrel and nuts.
John Bruce, did you have to take lessons to be such a moron?
Most of us dont care about these documents but some of us do. Just provide links (URL's etc) to the documents you want us to read instead of spamming the message forums.
Thank you
I am imiagining that his part on Penn & Teller's show will be brief, short, sweet, and Jack simply "playing along" for a laugh, rather than going off in his usual explosive anger.... Just so people will watch him on TV, and like other situations he's been in on TV in the past, where it was remotely controversial for him and a bad position for him to be in, he'll just take the coward's way out.
"I'm not responcabel fer my comuter's spleling errnors." -- Xlorep DarkHelm
The only reason I could think that JT would be proud of this is if he's oblivious as to how the show works. As far as I can tell they sit you down, ask you some questions, let you rant, bring up a few questions the opposition may have, let you rant, and then they take the footage and disect everything you say. So Jack Thompson essentially got to sit down and rant without anyone really bringing up any counter points, just questions. Of course he would think it'd be going in his favor because he won't see the final cut until it airs. He won't see his points being destroyed with Penn's booming, disembodied voice. As many of us have learned the best way to make Jack Thompson look like an idiot is to let him keep speaking. Let him build an entire position on one flimsy point as the foundation, he'll just build higher and higher and all you have to do is just point out the flaws in that shoddy foundation and everything else falls apart.
Penn and Teller won't need to bring up his disbarment or many of his past mistakes. They may if he starts bragging about his appearances on Fox News and 60 Minutes because at that point he's trying to blatantly make himself look credible but it'd just waste air-time to bring that up. What do I think will happen? Jack Thompson will get a 3-5 minute soundbyte and have it totally steamrolled. Jack Thompson relies too much on lies and misinformation. I wouldn't be surprised if Penn is aware of Jack Thompson's crusade against video games and chose him because he knows he is insane. Jack Thompson has already burnt so many bridges with other people who seek to legislate games that it's almost unfair to associate him with the politicians who seek to "protect the children" from violent games. Jack Thompson will be used as a tool to make the opposition seem guilty by association... even if he no longer associates with them. Just the fact such a madman seeks the same goal will make the anti-game side seem insane, rather then just misinformed.
He's probably very familiar with what the show is about, and in true Jack form, will not provide any fuel for their fire, and will rapidly be switching it into a very light joke/pot shot at himself in a cowardly passive-aggressive (or would it be defensive in this case?) manner. I honestly would be surprised if Jack stuck to, or even remotely approached his guns in a setting like that. He tends to only do that in settings that are more amicable to his position.
This is purely a stunt on his part, to see how many people he can make jump. And then he'll point to the ratings later as evidence that he's somehow important.
"I'm not responcabel fer my comuter's spleling errnors." -- Xlorep DarkHelm
Jack Thompson relies too much on lies and misinformation.
That is a lie and you know it. Take it back.
He relies ONLY on lies and misinformation.
Why did he choose Jack Thompson?
Easy.
Quick name two anti-gamer crusaders other than Jack Thompson (politicians using games to grab votes, get attention or make it seem like they're doing something, or those that only pass feel good laws don't count).
My two would be Yee and Clinton and they aren't nearly as vocal persistant or mainstream (in terms of game hating) as Thompson and I doubt any others you care to name would be either.
Oh the only reason that I think penn and teller won't mention Thompson's pending disbarrment in a passing shot would be if thompson doesn't get disbarred. He may be under trial now but I doubt that trial would still be underway by the time the episode airs.
Wrong again, reindeer breath. They asked me about my disbarment proceedings, and we talked about it for ten minutes. I'll be disbarred any day now, and then we're in federal court, and I'll get the disbarment reversed. Pretty simple, even for a gamer to understand. Jack Thompson
Oh how VERY mature, no wonder you are being disbarred. I wouldn't hold your breath on the federal court overturning this. Considering your past action, you may wind up being charged with contempt of court, even though you already seem to have nothing but comptempt for the American legal system when it rules against you.
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....reindeer breath...?
reindeer breath?
what? wow.. that is THE most immature insult i think ive ever heard.
I said that they would mention your disbarrment proceedings, not that they wouldn't sheesh.
Oh and why reindeer breath? I've never had reindeer before, is it good?
If anyone still thinks penn and teller will agree with Jack I submit to you this ancient clip from one of Penn and Teller's old TV shows.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUEvDKHsus4
Ok, now I wish I have Showtime.
No rush pal, the 6th season just ended about 4 weeks ago (and violent video games were nowhere to be found).
So we have till around spring or something till season 7 starts.
Ha ha lol about time
OH MY GOD, I have been waiting for this episode...
As a Libertarian myself,I can agree with those that say Penn and Teller will side with gamers.
Our entire philosophy is personal responsibility,so blaming violence on games is NOT taking responsibility for your actions.It's people,not games.
I've posted so many fucking times about this, emailed multiple people, including people from here and have had no fucking response.
jacks trial was on the 12th of September, 5 days ago!
WHAT HAPPENED!?
Was he disbarred? Was it postponed? Is it continuing?
Nothing has been spoken of this for the longest time.
Is it something legal? Can we not know the outcome for a certain period of time?
I want to know whether this doorstop of a human being is getting his comeupance.
Just because the trial started doesn't mean there's a verdict yet.
In any case, go Penn & Teller.
Dennis send someone to Miami and have thme watch court tv or other court shows until they can get Jack's trial.
Or send someone to Vegas/L.A. to get more details on this thing with penn and teller, your choice.
Ah, I see. I honestly have no idea how these things work, how long they take or when a verdict is reached.
I just really want jack to be squahed like the little bug that he is.
Seriously? is he really serious?
he thinks he's not even once violated the policy here?
has he even read the policy? I doubt it.
Oh fuck yeah.
I believe I shall start up a barbecue... anyone want any grilled Jack in a bun?
When Life gives you lemons, you find a new god.
Damn it. Figures they would wait this long to do this show. I made the suggestion on their forums for a videogame issue show 3 years ago when I still had Showtime. Of course they wait until I no longer have Showtime to do it. Bah, I wonder Hulu is carrying BS yet.
Still unimpressed.
No offense to fans of Penn & Teller, but seriously, not a big deal to me.
John Bruce can't handle a REAL, serious, intelligent discussion/debate. Never has been able to.
He prattles to little hate groups posing as "Parent groups" or groups promoting "family values". (Still waiting to hear which hate group is his latest mental molestation going to be spewed to. He claimed he wasn't telling anyone which one it was until the last minute. PROOF that his arguments and misinformation, lies, and deceit are so immoral, dishonorable, unethical, and incapable of standing up against counterarguments that he his to shield his brainwashed sheep from hearing the opposing views and facts.)
He aligns himself with a news network that admitted that lying and deceiving its audience was a legal Right, as proven in a court case.
The fact is that John Bruce couldn't face a REAL, worldwide, major debate on the issue of violence in general, let alone violence in regards to youth, let alone the impact of various exposures (media, religion, news, abuse, etc) and their part in violence in society. Quite frankly, the boy would become a babbling buffoon.
In the end, he's no more of value than any other conspiracy theorist and sociopath with an agenda. Proven time and again by his own actions and statements.
BTW, John Bruce, there's an old saying that applies to your whining about "personal attacks":
If you can't take it, don't dish it.
'Nuff said.
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Really? I can't handle a serious debate? How about 60 Minutes? How about debating Nadine Strossen, the President of the ACLU on twelve college campuses and on Nightline? How about taking on Lawrence Tribe, professor of constitutional law on Oprah? How about my debating Jack Valenti in Arizona about the ratings system? How about facing a hostile Senate panel in Louisiana and winning them ALL over to my side?
You are a totally ignorant twit. You have no idea whatsoever what I have done, and you, nothing but a cowardly punk, sit there and tell me you're "not impressed." Well, mold is not impressed with sunlight either, until it is gone.
You are a typical gamer, knowing the price of everything and the value of absolutely nothing. I am out there, putting my name on my positions and debating the liberals of my day in very tough venues. You sit on your toilet with your laptop on your knees poking fun at those who actually do something. What a joke you are.
Well, let's see here shall we. There was the time you called into the NPR show where Adam Sessler was a guest regarding video game violence. You mentioned that you were in contact with police agencies regarding GTA-like violence yet you refused to disclose which agencies you had spoke with. End result was the host hung up on you.
Or at your own disbarrment you refused to even hear the final verdict rule by referee Judge Tunis, and her recommendation was given in absentia.
Or how about that small debate of G4 TV where you kept trying to talk over over people and just sat their fuming like a brat whenever they made you wait your turn...
Ignorant indeed.
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60 Minutes: A show of little to no value these days. Not to mention that during the time you were on, the idea of blaming a relatively new media for various acts was about as valuable as some doink going on a popular radio news program and bitching about the evils of Rock n' Roll, comic books, or the Tango.
Your college campus "debates": OOOOoooo... even more unimpressed. About as valuable or of interest to me as those lame arse power speaking getaways where someone gets a toaster for attending. Seriously, unimpressed.
Nightline? So? Big fat hairy deal. Sound bite central to me. Doesn't mean squat.
Oprah? BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! You seriously count OPRAH as a valuable debate forum? Puh-leaze!
The Louisiana senate? Winning them all? Geez, you ARE delusional! I saw and read all the information regarding the passage of that bill. Not only did you lie, deceive, and misrepresent every fact you possibly could, but you had the support of another ignorant boob politician who didn't know squat about the subject being discussed and followed blindly in your footsteps with additional lies and deceit. And look where it got them! All because they blindly followed your nonsense right to the bitter end.
I notice you still are avoiding the bit about what hate group you've been invited to mislead, lie to, and deceive next. You talk about mold and sunlight, while you, the moldy bigot are too cowardly to have your views challenged in the very forums that you want to blindly lead down a corrupt and immoral path. I've seen you do it before, as with that misnamed Freedom Festival, and no doubt you've done it many, many times before with other hate groups and will do it many more times in the future.
As to what YOU'VE done, I've researched you left, right, front, and inside out. From Wikipedia, to various articles over the years. I don't need you to tell me what you have or haven't done. I'm not that ignorant. Indeed, I'm not even ignorant to blindly accept what your opposition says about you. I do PROPER research, something you wouldn't know anything about nor would you recommend to all those you mentally molest with your lies, deceit, and immorality. Please, go ahead and show us just how prattling ignorant you really, truly, are.
The funny thing is, just by reading a post here, you have far more information about me, as does anyone else who reads my posts, than the average internet spammer. But you're too buffoonish to follow through. Why? Because you don't know SQUAT about proper research, John Bruce. Heck, you, and every other reader here and/or in the forums, have had access to a fairly decent amount of my personal identity for over two years. But you are just too bloody ignorant to realize it.
Pathetic. Absolutely P A T H E T I C.
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Hey, I'm here with Penn and Teller's crew, and they're taping me as I type this. Way cool.
We just finished what amounted to a four-hour shoot of the Penn & Teller: BS show. They are off to Boston to interview others for the show. I wouldn't bother you all with this, except any story having to do with me here draws more interest than all other stories (note the number of posts at this story as compared to other recent stories, outdistancing them by a 4 to 1 margin) so it is obvious that you can't get enough Jack.
As to why I did the show: Of course the hosts will be critical of me. That is the nature of the show. But it is an opportunity for me, despite what will be all the clutter on the show, to get at least some of my perspective out there, which is shared by the vast majority of Americans: Concern that adult games are being sold to kids.
You see, I don't do this to be popular with the video game or Penn & Teller crowd, although I happen to like their magic acts. I do it to help win the larger culture war we are in.
It is anonymous cowards who are too frightened to get in the arena, like the punks who post here, who snarl and mock. That's fine. I'm making a difference, by God's grace, and you all are too afraid to do so.
Jack Thompson
PS: Tune in. It should be fun.
@Jack:
Contrary to an old adage, not ALL publicity is good publicity. The only news outlets you have been seen on in the past at your public peak have been ones that are sympathetic to your views. Now that you face disbarment, you are clearly getting desperate for soapboxes. Don't even try to condescend anymore, it's just sad.
Indeed, even Fox news seems not to be taking any interest in their favorite massacre chaser. Hate to say it Jacko, but being on Penn and Teller's Bullshit as an 'expert' is the same being a celebrity on Hollywood Squares.
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Tune in. It should be fun.
Yeah, I can´t wait to see you fall again and again on TV. I can´t get enough of that.
Dork.
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It is anonymous cowards who are too frightened to get in the arena, like the punks who post here
It is anonymous cowards who change their username every chance they get, like the soon-to-be-disbarred attorney who posts here.
岩「…Ace beats Jack」
1) Unlike you, we don't spend all our time hitting F5 and rechecking such pages.
2) Unlike you, people like to keep things on topic and where they belong.
3) Funny how a good amount of those posts are from us responding to you, but hardly ANY are from you replying back to what we said.
4) This list could go on forever, so I'll stop it here.
to get at least some of my perspective out there, which is shared by the vast majority of Americans: Concern that adult games are being sold to kids.
I do it to help win the larger culture war we are in.
And like always I ask WHAT HAVE YOU DONE REALISTICALLY ABOUT SUCH? Now that is some real BS coming from you, seeing your vast history of not doing anything reasonable about it. All you propose is censorship of things you don't like, you do NOT do anything like helping parents become aware of ratings & doing their own research before buying, for such a "corrupt ratings system" you sure haven't proposed anything reasonable, same with ratings enforcement, ETC, and best example of ALL is you joined an anti-bulling group to stage a protest against the "obscene" Bully(where, ironically, someone thought it was a good idea to base the protest "yell" on a song filled with obscenities and beating someone up...) & dumping them without contributing any darned thing to a complex issue.
Lets not also forget how successful you have been in going after the music and movie industries...
except any story having to do with me here draws more interest than all other stories... so it is obvious that you can't get enough Jack.
Funny, I clicked back a few pages and there are plenty of non-Jack stories with a good amount of comments. Sheesh, "I get more comments!," that is as lame as counting page hits or braging online about the size of your....
Get a blog Jack, and don't you post here anymore.
Wow, Jack. You know, I’ve really got to hand it to you. In all my life I’ve never met anyone as willfully ignorant and delusional in the face of reality as you are. Case in point is your appearance on Bullshit, which you gleefully tout as yet another opportunity to get your message out and preach to the choir. You have absolutely no clue, then, what is about to happen to you. They’ll take your arguments and rip them to shreds and mock you mercilessly on national television in front of hundreds if not millions of viewers, just like your fellow Right-Wing douchebag Michael Medved and others. If you truly had any idea what this show was about, I don't think you would have deigned to appear. But as Nightwing said, it only proves that at this point you’re desperate for any attention you can get, even if the forum or the venue is now openly hostile to you.
I know it's weird but isn't it a good idea to not sell R rated games to kids? I mean I wouldn't give my kid something like Backdoor Sluts 9 or anything and there are games solely for adults only.
If there's something I'm missing here, please tell me.
Dude we are not talking about porno games here, you'd be pretty hard pressed to find a store that sells porno games, and it's all ready illegal to sell those games to minors. There's nothing wrong with not selling Grand Theft Auto 4 to a 12 year old but some people seem to get a little peeved when you try to make that law. Remember though it is perfectly legal to sell a young kid a ticket to an R rated movie or an R rated DVD. So if such a law were passed it would be legal to sell an 11 year old Godfather the movie (all 3 parts) but not the Godfather game.
Someone please record this and stick it on Youtube!
Why do you say something like this? As far as I know, things were always heaten up by this great man. We should all appreciate him for this work.
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