Baroness Endorsed Game in 2007, Now Says Too Much Gaming is Harmful

September 18, 2008 -

A well-known British scientist told an Australian audience that video games and the Internet are slowing emotional development among heavy users.

ABC.net reports that Baroness Susan Greenfield, also a member of Great Britain's House of Lords, is currently on a speaking tour. She told her audience in Adelaide:

What I suggest is that the screen technologies are luring people more into more time spent abrogating their sense of self. So what we may be doing is infantilising people's brains, that is to say, keeping them in the booming buzzing confusion of the small child.

GP: What's very odd about her comments is that in 2007 Baroness Greenfield endorsed a computer game called MindFit. 


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Re: Baroness Endorsed Game in 2007, Now Says Too Much ...

Thanks good job;

Btw, I think Atari and Midway will drop out too, but mostly travesti because  these guys have done nothing travesti or little and need to start saving costs. and dizi izle

YES.

Now I don't have to get off my ass for the important shit anymore!

Whats next, ordering pizza from Xbox live?

Wait... I think that sounds like a good idea.

But I think voting should MAKE you get off your ass, and see outside or a second while you go vote. I mean, your picking the president of the United States of America for God's Sake... least you can do is drive down there and punch out a card.

 

Re: Baroness Endorsed Game in 2007, Now Says Too Much Gaming is

Nintendo is indeed selling SOME of these on the Virtual Console but not even close to all of them. While i agree in part to his piracy he was filling a market that Nintendo failed to recognize. Maybe someone doesnt want to buy a Wii. maybe they just want a console with 50 - 100 NES games on them?? maybe just maybe?

but no Nintendo wants everyone araba kiralama to buy the Wii. thats their excuse but thats not what copyright is supposed to protect. i am real sure that the makers of 10 yard fight were losing sleep because they were missing out on their $0.00025 worth because they didnt get royalties from this player. *smirk*

my question is, should Super Mario Bros. be banned from public domain forever? isnt 23 years enough time for Nintendo to have made their profits?

If you have followed the Steamboat Willie case regarding Mickey Mouse you can rest in your bed well at night knowing that the MOUSE will still be under copyright law, away from public domain after your great grandchildren are in nursing homes. That is beyond ridiculous dont you think??

Gallagher can araç kiralama say all he wants, but I strongly rent a car believe it's due to his crappy leadership and E3 being a joke. ESA's Board of Directors need to find a way to get out rent a car of this horrid contract with this Bush cronie before there's no one left on the Board.

Btw, I think Atari and Midway will drop out too, but mostly travesti because  these guys have done nothing ttnet vitamin or little and need to start saving costs.

YES.

Now I don't have to get off my ass for the important shit anymore!

Whats next, ordering pizza from Xbox live?

Wait... I think that sounds like a good idea.

But I think voting should MAKE you get off your ass, and see outside or a second while you go vote. I mean, your picking the president of the United States of America for God's Sake... least you can do is drive down there and punch out a card.

Re: Baroness Endorsed Game in 2007, Now Says Too Much Gaming is

Third, remember Michael Hoechsmann. The guy who protested against Army of Two, calling it "barbaric" (remember that GP story ? http://gamepolitics.com/2008/02/29/prof-game-industry-barbaric-continually-chooses-violent-themes/ ). This guy is also a big defender of video games in general, including Bully or James Paul Gee's book about video games and education. But one quote about Army of Two has been singled out of context by a journalist, and all of a sudden it made him become an enemy Tiffany Jewelleryof the "barbaric video game industry", which wasn't what he said at all. As a result, he's been cyber-lynched by angry gamers, Tiffany Jewellerywho didn't care about what was his real message.So I maintain what I said about this : "we definitely cannot trust mainstream media, not only because of the sensationalistic way they portray things, but also because of the way they select and interpret quotes. So when someone is interviewed about video games, we may have to ask him directly if he really said and meant what he said (remember Frank Borelli last year)."

 

 


Re: Baroness Endorsed Game in 2007, Now Says Too Much Gaming is

Thing is, too much salt is dangerous, and yet no salt whatsoever is equally dangerous.

Like all things, it's easy to say 'too much' is bad, because, as other people have pointed out, too much of anything is bad.

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Taking bets on how long until Jack is on here ranting again.

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Re: Baroness Endorsed Game in 2007, Now Says Too Much Gaming is

This thing was here yesterday. Unless it's at the top of the page or it's about him or T2, he won't post.

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Meh, you never know. Besides, it's Jack. What would you expect?

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Re: Baroness Endorsed Game in 2007, Now Says Too Much Gaming is

There's only ONE Baroness I listen to.

HAIL COBRA!

---You are likely to be eaten by a Grue.

---You are likely to be eaten by a Grue.

Re: Baroness Endorsed Game in 2007, Now Says Too Much Gaming is

I don't know why anybody would trust her, she's with COBRA for crying out loud!

Re: Baroness Endorsed Game in 2007, Now Says Too Much Gaming is

Wait, wait, don't overreact too quickly. You should read between the lines before blaming this Baroness of anything. If someone is to blame, it's the article's author, who did a very, very poor job.

First, there is only ONE quote about... hey, it's not even about video games ! It's about "screen technologies". Granted, it can be games, but it can also be TV or the Internet. In the article, you have absolutely no information about the rest of her speech, nor about the context of this quote... and why has this quote been singled out, anyway ?

Second, there is the title : "Video games slow maturity". "Video games", really ? She's talking about "screen technologies", remember ? There's no way you can deduce such a bullshit from a single quote.

Third, remember Michael Hoechsmann. The guy who protested against Army of Two, calling it "barbaric" (remember that GP story ? http://gamepolitics.com/2008/02/29/prof-game-industry-barbaric-continually-chooses-violent-themes/ ). This guy is also a big defender of video games in general, including Bully or James Paul Gee's book about video games and education. But one quote about Army of Two has been singled out of context by a journalist, and all of a sudden it made him become an enemy of the "barbaric video game industry", which wasn't what he said at all. As a result, he's been cyber-lynched by angry gamers, who didn't care about what was his real message.

So I maintain what I said about this : "we definitely cannot trust mainstream media, not only because of the sensationalistic way they portray things, but also because of the way they select and interpret quotes. So when someone is interviewed about video games, we may have to ask him directly if he really said and meant what he said (remember Frank Borelli last year)."

Remember, then : the problem is not what Baroness Greenfield said, it's what ABC News said she said. Therefore, if you manage to get into contact with her, before saying anything, tell her about this article and ask her if this is what she really meant, and anyway, what did she really say on her speaking tour.

Thanks for listening.

Re: Baroness Endorsed Game in 2007, Now Says Too Much Gaming is

Oh this is fantastic, of all the cities she could have chosen to do a speech at at in Australia and she just had to pick the one where Michael Atkinson works.

Re: Baroness Endorsed Game in 2007, Now Says Too Much Gaming is

Hey guys, go to the link that GP posted. It shows a dark figure playing a game in an extremely dark, unusually green room, as if to say that all gamers sit in their mom's green tinted basement playing golf games all day.

Re: Baroness Endorsed Game in 2007, Now Says Too Much Gaming is

But lets get down to brass tacks and discuss the REAL issue here.

Is she, or is she not, a MILF? (She has no children, but she is 58, and if that pictures recent then she is looking pretty good for it!)

-------------------------------------------------- I LIKE the fence. I get 2 groups to laugh at then.

Re: Baroness Endorsed Game in 2007, Now Says Too Much Gaming is

lulz Baroness taken out of context makes this funnier :D

Re: Baroness Endorsed Game in 2007, Now Says Too Much Gaming is

That you Jaffe? J/K

I think she's an idiot, big word usage be damned.

Re: Baroness Endorsed Game in 2007, Now Says Too Much Gaming is

Meh.  I read her stance as an example of 'how will our wonderful alpha children learn to be superior if they don't have lots of omegas around to be better then!'

Any technology that allows the 'looked down upon' to build social networks of their own rather then be in thier proper place at the bottom of the pile tends to get lots of this kinda of attack.

Re: Baroness Endorsed Game in 2007, Now Says Too Much Gaming is

 "GP: What's very odd about her comments is that in 2007 Baroness Greenfield endorsed a computer game called MindFit. "

Eh, i don't find it very odd... praising one game does not speak about your opinions for the other 99% of the game market, and blaming gaming in general is not necessarily saying that their are no rare exceptions to "the rule"...

I mean when it comes down to it, how many anti-game politicians when questioned about an educational game would slam it like any other game and completely dismiss it? Politicians either praise the game calling it an exception to the rule, or just conveniently ignore such games (though some are so far out of touch that they don't even realize such games exist)

Is her opinion stupid? yes. Very odd and inconsistant? no, not really

Re: Baroness Endorsed Game in 2007, Now Says Too Much Gaming is

Typical House of Lords member. They like to throw big words around because they assume the great unwashed will be sufficiently intimidated by their obviously superior intelligence and education and therefore wont call them on their bullshit and hypocrisy. The big poo-poo heads.

-------------------------------------------------- I LIKE the fence. I get 2 groups to laugh at then.

Re: Baroness Endorsed Game in 2007, Now Says Too Much Gaming is

"What I suggest is that the screen technologies are luring people more into more time spent abrogating their sense of self. So what we may be doing is infantilising people's brains, that is to say, keeping them in the booming buzzing confusion of the small child."

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Re: Baroness Endorsed Game in 2007, Now Says Too Much Gaming is

Well no shit. Too much of anything is bad.

Re: Baroness Endorsed Game in 2007, Now Says Too Much Gaming is

"infantilising people's brains"

What pseudo-intellectual nonsense.

Re: Baroness Endorsed Game in 2007, Now Says Too Much Gaming is

That's just fancy talk for "making people act immaturely".


Re: Baroness Endorsed Game in 2007, Now Says Too Much Gaming is

Oh no?

Re: Baroness Endorsed Game in 2007, Now Says Too Much Gaming is

Standards to be in politics: You must be a wishy-washy hypocrite.

Thus she is definately a politician. However in this case, shows EXTREME hypocrisy! I mean endorsing a game a year ago and now is on the anti-game phase. Only a year? Yeeeeesh

Re: Baroness Endorsed Game in 2007, Now Says Too Much Gaming is

But she's not a politician, she merely has a life peerage and sits in the Lords.

Your point is flawed.

She is a *very* well know neuro-scientist and might actually be making a point.

Re: Baroness Endorsed Game in 2007, Now Says Too Much Gaming is

In All fairness the game she endorsed was for mind training not something Like Gungrave OD (Awesome game) but still...

Re: Baroness Endorsed Game in 2007, Now Says Too Much Gaming is

Yeah, no kidding.  Too much of anything is a bad thing.  Its all about balance.

Re: Baroness Endorsed Game in 2007, Now Says Too Much Gaming is

she is a moron who doesnt know what she is talking about..Nuff said

Re: Baroness Endorsed Game in 2007, Now Says Too Much Gaming is

I have no idea what she said, those are pretty big words she's using.  Then again, I play a lot of games so I guess she's right.  No I must go and cry in the fetal position.

Re: Baroness Endorsed Game in 2007, Now Says Too Much Gaming is

Please.  I've met plenty of adults who behave like children and who don't play video games.

Ever listen to the arguments between fans of two rival sports teams?  Their logic and temperment is comparable to that of a 5th grader.

How about the mud-slinging campaigns of politicans?

Or, better yet, ever read or listen to one of JT's temper tantrums?

Adults are just as bad as children, they just use bigger words.

 

Re: Baroness Endorsed Game in 2007, Now Says Too Much Gaming is

I wouldn't put it QUITE as bluntly, but it's true. A friend of mine was having a tiff with another 37-year old friend of hers, and let me tell you, that 37-year old could have passed herself off as 16 and no one would tell the difference.

Re: Baroness Endorsed Game in 2007, Now Says Too Much Gaming is

Son-of-a... Sorry 'bout the double-posting.

Re: Baroness Endorsed Game in 2007, Now Says Too Much Gaming is

Indubitably, your brains must have been infantilised by these "screen technologies".  So you must have been lured into spending more time abrogating your sense of self, that is to say, keeping it in the booming buzzing confusion of the small child.

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Epic win!

Re: Baroness Endorsed Game in 2007, Now Says Too Much Gaming is

She's a member of the UK government and she wants to talk about acting maturely??

Maybe she should be looking at the Labour Party at the moment if she wants to find a group of people who are blissfully lost in the 'booming buzzing confusion of the small child.'

Re: Baroness Endorsed Game in 2007, Now Says Too Much Gaming is

Well the Labour party likes to pretend every citizen of the UK is like that anyway.

-------------------------------------------------- I LIKE the fence. I get 2 groups to laugh at then.

Re: English Baroness: Too Much Gaming Keeps You From Maturing

Proof or you are an idiot.

Re: English Baroness: Too Much Gaming Keeps You From Maturing

 Well, too much of ANYTHING is not a good thing. Question is: How much is "too much?" 

Re: English Baroness: Too Much Gaming Keeps You From Maturing

Saw a documentary about toxins in which someone died from poisoning from drinking too much water.

BAN WATER

Re: English Baroness: Too Much Gaming Keeps You From Maturing

Excellent point, especially where video games are concerned.

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