When we last heard Dr. Phil expound on games, he was drawing a connection between the violent variety and the Virginia Tech rampage.
The TV shrink is probing video games again for an episode to be aired in October. We know because Wendy Kays writes on her blog that she taped a Dr. Phil appearance to promote her new book Game Widow, a self-help manual of sorts for those with game-addicted loved ones. Wendy, by the way, is married to Graham Kays, lead designer for SOCOM: US Navy Seals.
Here's Wendy's description of her Dr. Phil experience:
This week I had the delightful experience of being accused of bias towards the game industry by Dr. Phil. I’ve been accused often of bias against the industry, but never towards it! I’m over the moon…usually the media positions my game designer husband and I, his game widow, as enemies; and expect my book, Game Widow, to be anti-gaming. This is the first time I’ve been told I’m defending my husband and his job out of love. Fabulous! I’m going to make sure my husband watches the episode when it airs in the first part of October…he’ll get a huge kick out of it.
The question at hand at the Dr. Phil Show taping was whether the video game industry makes games addictive on purpose. I can't tell you anything about the show due to contracts signed, but I will say here there is no question in my mind that video games are addictive, or that they are designed to be highly attractive. Those two points I know for sure. I’ve personally lived through both the addiction of a family member to substance abuse, and video game abuse. There are no differences in the experience...





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Re: Wife of SOCOM Designer Talks Game Addiction on Dr. Phil
Together with Wendy, I'm a guest on this episode of Dr. Phil, and if it starts an intelligent dialogue on excessive gaming, then I've done my job.
Brad
http://www.exgamer.net
Re: Wife of SOCOM Designer Talks Game Addiction on Dr. Phil
I worry about claims of video game addiction. Wile I'm sure it does happen, I don't think it occurs as often as sensationalism might have you believe.
Games are probably better compared to gambling and gambling addiction than drug addiction.
Games are designed to provide a similar action/reward/feeback system that gambling provides.
If Dr.Phil doesn't liken the concepts behind game design to rats pushing buttons, I think we should all start to questino him as a mental health professional, or at the very least, question the research that goes into the topic.
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Re: Wife of SOCOM Designer Talks Game Addiction on Dr. Phil
You already had a trial Jack. But instead of defending yourself, you decided to harrass the lawyers of Blank Rome and complain about videogames. There's no second chances.The show taped on September 16 in Los Angeles. I'm recovering from a very destructive gaming addiction and was a guest on this episode with Wendy Kays, so I met her and heard everythingTiffany Ring she had to say about the gaming industry. Tiffany JewelleryHer perspective is remarkably sane and balanced. You've nothing to fear.Tiffany JewellerySo if we just don't pay any attention to their comments no matter how rediculas they are, then they won't win. I feel that over the years, the more and more attention these people get over their bashing of Videogames, the more they do it. It is kinda like what happened when I was being teased at school. the kids used to tease me allot about the Cats loosing Grand Finals during the 90's and I would cry or try to hit them and yell trying to make them stop saying things like that. but at the end of the day, no matter if I tried to hit them, I would be in trouble because I was behaving violent.
Re: Wife of SOCOM Designer Talks Game Addiction on Dr. Phil
I'm sure no one reads this far down but I used to be horribly addicted to opiates, we are talking I literally injected myself every 4-6 hours, only slept 5 and half hours a night, drank, took uppers, etc. the whole nine yards and I've also played a lot of video games. While I've spent the odd weekend playing ALL day, the two things are really NOT similar. I'm totally functional when I play computer games. I might play an hour one night or 8 hours on a day off but really if I have work I don't miss work and if I have other stuff to do I do other stuff. I go out with friends, have a social life, have had girlfriends (addiction is not conducive to successful long term relationships) and can still play games. I can see how people can get alittle too carried away with games but it is NOT THE SAME as chemical addiction. You might as well say that kids who spend all their time reading fiction are addicted to the fantasy of it. Yet no one is sitting there saying we need to stop kids from reading books.
Re: Wife of SOCOM Designer Talks Game Addiction on Dr. Phil
Re: Wife of SOCOM Designer Talks Game Addiction on Dr. Phil
Wow, amazing.
The show taped on September 16 in Los Angeles. I'm recovering from a very destructive gaming addiction and was a guest on this episode with Wendy Kays, so I met her and heard everything she had to say about the gaming industry. Her perspective is remarkably sane and balanced. You've nothing to fear.
Please do a couple of things before commenting further:
1. Wait until the episode airs, last week of September or first week of October is most likely based on what the production team have told us.
2. Read Wendy's book. You can buy it direct from GameWidow.org or Amazon.com
Thanks,
Brad
http://www.exgamer.net
Re: Wife of SOCOM Designer Talks Game Addiction on Dr. Phil
Well I'd suggest finding the book at the library, or reading it within Barnes and Nobel. No reason to be giving money to someone one might end up not agreeing with now is there?
Re: Wife of SOCOM Designer Talks Game Addiction on Dr. Phil
Oh great ol Phill is going to be talking out of his arse and trashing games again.
Penn and Teller Bullshit can't get here quick enough.
Hey wait a minute, Dr. Phill's show comes out in October bullshit doesn't start season 7 till ... spring? There's nothing that says they won't touch game addiction on that episode. Also Penn has said that he hates Dr. Phil more than once on bullshit.
I wonder ...
Re: Wife of SOCOM Designer Talks Game Addiction on Dr. Phil
Jack, I'd like to explain the people here's "Jack Thompson Addiction".
You see there were/are many people who are addicted to The Three Stooges. And I don't know if you watched much Three Stooges but in the episodes they took on many odd jobs like chefs, plumbers, carpenters, etc. Now did people watch the Stoogest intently because they were masters at their trades? No, they failed and failed hard! Hence the allure of the show.
We want to see as much about you as we can. You are a failure at life and you provide us with a nonstop amounts of amusement as your career goes down in flames and your sanity is in a freefall.
Dance you pathetic little stooge. We need amusement.
Re: Wife of SOCOM Designer Talks Game Addiction on Dr. Phil
i really couldnt have put it better myself
Re: Wife of SOCOM Designer Talks Game Addiction on Dr. Phil
Agreed
When Life gives you lemons, you find a new god.
Re: Wife of SOCOM Designer Talks Game Addiction on Dr. Phil
<i>The video game industry designs its games to be physiologically addictive.</i>
They would need some kind of chemical in order to accomplish that.
<i>We have the proof.</i>
Well, I'd love to see it. Seriously, it would be nice for you to actually prove something for once. And who is "we", exactly? You and the voices in your head, perhaps?
<i>By the way, many of you, as indicated by your many posts at any story having to do with me, apparently have a Jack Thompson Addiction, so in order to feed that wonderful beast, here's your latest fix.<i>
Addiction? Nah. You are amusing though. Like a monkey playing the bagpipes or something.
<i>Have a great weekend. Jack Thompson</i>
Why thank you Jack. Always good to see you drop by. Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.
Re: Wife of SOCOM Designer Talks Game Addiction on Dr. Phil
Yeah jacky, You make friendly morons with brief moments of intellect look (like me) bad, Your disbbarrment and all we need is now your suicide.
MAGIC TACO HAS SPOKEN
Re: Wife of SOCOM Designer Talks Game Addiction on Dr. Phil
This kind of comment is unneccesary. Hate him all you like, but talking about suicide is crossing the line.
Re: Wife of SOCOM Designer Talks Game Addiction on Dr. Phil
Agreed. Let's keep the level of conversation here at a respectable tone and not, I repeat, not taunt the dynomite monkey.
Re: Wife of SOCOM Designer Talks Game Addiction on Dr. Phil
I've been channeling J.J Walker again.
Dynamite. :)
Re: Wife of SOCOM Designer Talks Game Addiction on Dr. Phil
Give it a few years after he loses everything.
When Life gives you lemons, you find a new god.
Re: Wife of SOCOM Designer Talks Game Addiction on Dr. Phil
You already had a trial Jack. But instead of defending yourself, you decided to harrass the lawyers of Blank Rome and complain about videogames. There's no second chances.
Re: Wife of SOCOM Designer Talks Game Addiction on Dr. Phil
GP: another JT court document snipped...
I'm not deleting the comment entirely, otherwise the replies will disappear as well.
Re: Wife of SOCOM Designer Talks Game Addiction on Dr. Phil
And after all this time, Jack, you clearly still don't get it.
What are you going to do when you're disbarred? Wait, I know the answer to that one - you'll appeal it. And when the Appeals Board refuses to consider reopening the case, you'll appeal to the Supremes. When they refuse to consider it, you'll start crying about how it's a vast conspiracy against you.
Here's a clue, Jack - you're not that important, and you're surely not relevant.
Re: Wife of SOCOM Designer Talks Game Addiction on Dr. Phil
I had a chance to read it, and to be honest it does seem like there are certain legitimate issues mentioned. It's unfortunate that legitimate issues are tackled by someone who has offered up a lot of libel, paranoia and outright lies. In the end it appears that both parties have done wrong, and two wrongs don't make a right.
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Re: Wife of SOCOM Designer Talks Game Addiction on Dr. Phil
What's the tastiest mint in the world? DIS BAR MINT
The only mint that it's more fun to watch someone else eat, you mean.
Re: Wife of SOCOM Designer Talks Game Addiction on Dr. Phil
Mr. Thompson, you already had your disciplinary trial that dealt with your conduct. That's what disciplinary hearings are for: the conduct of the defending attorney. From the transcript, you didn't seem to know that. (Read Tunis' report if you don't believe me. When a witness was asked how your conduct offended them, you claimed it was irrelevant when your conduct was the basis of the hearing.) You thought instead that you were prosecuting Blank Rome and other people who you DON'T just send motions to.
They don't think of you as a raging lunatic, homophobe, and fascist because you file the motions at all. It's because of the infantile way you do so, with insults egregiously unbecoming of a 50-something year old man, and not only just once, but numerous times, as if they have some sort of obligation to respond to you IMMEDIATELY and put everything else in their jobs and otherwise on hold. Sorry, Mr. Thompson, but the world doesn't revolve around you. That's not how the world of law, and the world in general, works. You're not a police officer. You can't MAKE your own deadlines. You're a lawyer. (and i'm not, yet i still know this.)
I shouldn't have to list the reasons why you're a disgusting excuse of a human being, from stepping on the graves of the VT victims before the dirt was even dry to wading through the blood-tinted flood waters of Hurricane Katrina to your disrespect of your own wife and son just to further yourself.
You're done, Mr. Thompson. Not because of your christianity or cause, but your blatent disregard for human compassion.
David "DavCube" Gagnon.
PS: Posting these filings of yours in the comment section is the violation that Dennis continually mentions. Just e-mail them to him. Since you're so convinced that he's 'obsessed' with you, (He didn't call you six times a day sounding like a forlorn lover, or so it sounds like in that 2007 article series about your attack on this site) he just might make an update on it.
Re: Wife of SOCOM Designer Talks Game Addiction on Dr. Phil
Oh, forgot something, Mr. Thompson. They're not persecuting you for being on 60 minutes. They're persecuting you for bringing it up as though it actually matters for.... anything. Because it doesn't. You talking on a program is absolutely, positively unrelated to any case that you have ever taken place in.
In short: the only thing it achieves is you bragging that you were on TV. Bragging is something that's kind of frowned upon in the field of law. Sure, Boston Legal may tell you otherwise, but that's fiction. Sir, you're no Denny Crane.
same old crap from the same old idiot.
Re: Wife of SOCOM Designer Talks Game Addiction on Dr. Phil
"I’ve personally lived through both the addiction of a family member to substance abuse, and video game abuse. There are no differences in the experience..."
You know, I think there are a hell of a lot of people with alcoholism and drug abuse in their families who would be fully justified in responding to that statement with "Go to hell."
Re: Wife of SOCOM Designer Talks Game Addiction on Dr. Phil
Re: Wife of SOCOM Designer Talks Game Addiction on Dr. Phil
MMO is a serious addiction that needs to be looked at now.
I mean, seriously.. how can people play such utter filth for so long and *enjoy* it?
Re: Wife of SOCOM Designer Talks Game Addiction on Dr. Phil
Re: Wife of SOCOM Designer Talks Game Addiction on Dr. Phil
While I wasn't addicted to SOCOM, I played it a whole lot. Somewhere between competitive and just plain fun (I usually mixed the 2 in wars since I wasn't good). I know the topic isn't focused on that game itself, but its coincidence that the game I played for a few years is involved.
I played SOCOM a lot because, at the time, I was going through a bumpy road and wanted to get my fun on in some way...and I met some of the most awesome friends on there (some of which I still talk to, started like 4 or 5 years ago). I didn't play for the actual game itself, but for the people I played with. All coming together and just screwing and joking around (team killing by using the back of an AT4 for instance), having some good, bad, and bizzare conversations...just having a blast. That's what I played for. It wasn't to be number 1 or anything...just having fun.
It's a real debate to consider gaming an addiction. Some points were made that if you don't like a game you won't play it...can also be said about smoking (if you don't like the taste you don't smoke it).
Gaming addiction is more of a mental thing. It's focusing on the need of a person, as in a friend. Online gamers have a safer route since most involve actual interaction with other people, but then there are health hazzards to be considered.
Everyone can pick up the controller, but people need to learn to put it down. Just like artists can pick up a pencil or a musician can pick up the guitar...there a many ways to be addicted to something, its the will to put those things down makes the difference in considering it an addiction.
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rep +1
Re: Wife of SOCOM Designer Talks Game Addiction on Dr. Phil
DR phill is stil on TV?
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Re: Wife of SOCOM Designer Talks Game Addiction on Dr. Phil
This is the most dumbest shit i ever read in my life that bitch wants to make money!
"most dumbest shit ever"?
...you see the irony in that statement, right?
-Remember kids, personal responsibility is for losers! For information on games and psychology, look up: Jonathan Freedman(2002)Block & Crain(2007) Just to name a few...
Re: Wife of SOCOM Designer Talks Game Addiction on Dr. Phil
Before this goes much further, I'd like to stick two cents in here...as the origin of the debate. First, if you read Game Widow, or more of my blogging, you'll know I cover all the points mentioned here. I also take the stance that "game addiction" is a slang term, not an officially recognized diagnosis. I hate the term, too, but the only way to speak about game abuse, and actually have people understand what issue you're referring to, is to use this less-than-accurate term. To the point, there hasn't been enough scientific research by unbiased, qualified people to determine if there is a chemical abuse situation going on with the pre-existing horomones etc in the human body when gamers play, or if the "addiction" phenomenon is all behavioral. But the chemical/behavioral debate over the nature of addiction has been going on even among scientists for years. The debate is messy, because at the core of it, there really are very few solid facts - it's hard to draw parallels between dependencies we think we understand and those we don't really, because as mentioned above, some dependencies seem to be weak, and others incredibly powerful. What I do know for sure is that playing an MMO for long hours changed my husband's personality in the same way that abusing substances changed the personality of another family member of mine. I don't care about the eventual determination of the science, I just point out where it now stands. I care about men, women and children experiencing real physical and emotional harm resulting from game abuse. We need a solution, not an argument about terminology. You don't have to see a family member die to respect the horror of addictive behavior - chemical or behavioral. You just have to feel the fear, the gut terror, of seeing it happen to someone you love, and having it tear down everyone around them. I feel incredibly lucky that addiction hasn't claimed the life of anyone I know, and hope it never does anyone you know, either.
I don't expect you to read Game Widow. That's too much to ask. But give me the benefit of the doubt. I know some of the posters here are having a knee-jerk, self-protective reaction to being attacked many times before, but this isn't like that, despite your opinion of Dr. Phil. Being interviewed by the media and taking your lumps is part of the obligation of publishing a book. Jason Della Rocca, Nick Yee, and Erin Hoffman have all read Game Widow, and endorsed it as fair and well-researched. The Dr. Phil contracts I signed to be on the show clearly stated that Dr. Phil was not an accredited counselor, and I researched the show before going on. I expected short shrift. You should also be media savvy, and be able to separate out showmanship from substance.
Yes, I think the game industry needs to take a stand on this issue as self-preservation, but that doesn't mean paying for research. After all, if the industry sponsors research, the results are then suspected of bias, and useless. Encouraging research is not the same as funding it. The poster who mentioned gamer responsiblity was right on...gamers are the primary decision makers on whether or not to abuse. Game makers can put in all the save points and safety features they want, and gamers can blow past them or disable play monitors. But it doesn't end there. Game widows (and widowers) also need to take some responsibility and quit enabling bad behavior when it crops up. Quit making excuses, taking dinner to the computer, and saving the gamer from the consequences of their choice to play instead of (fill in the blank). Not everyone abuses games. But until we, as a culture, deal with the issue of those who do, those of us who don't will never be able to play in peace.
As for the publishing just to get attention...dude, if you think the attention here is something you'd want, you're welcome to it. The public is cruel, and gamers are worse. I have no illusions about the unpleasantness of publicity, and heartily wished someone else had written this book...before it was even published. I thought about writing under a pseudonym, but in a debate as important as this one, it's only fair to let readers know exactly who is talking so they can accept or reject the information offered by considering its source.
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Re: Wife of SOCOM Designer Talks Game Addiction on Dr. Phil
The problem with the term "game addiction" is normal people (without basic notions of psycology) will take it like "droug addiction" and as a real medical term and not as a slang like you suggest, not matter how hard you try to cover it. And you don´t hate that term. You still using it as a valid term to describe an adicttion, as "game widows" to sell your ideas.
You use them because they are "hot" words, and they sell.
The people is looking all videogames as a disease and they are learning to be afraid of their own children. I accept there is many people with problems with the videogames, but is not the majority of all gamers. We are really tired of people looking us as criminals or walking time-bombs looking for explode.
We are tired of the Jack Thompsons or Cooper Lawrences taking advantage from real problems and making it bigger and affecting many more people in a negative way, just for get fame, attention and money.
It´s true that videogames are not something for die for (not even defending them), but I think the feedback is fair, even if is cruel, like you said. Because you have the massive media to express yourself, and we don´t.
I think the cruelty comes from other way.
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Re: Wife of SOCOM Designer Talks Game Addiction on Dr. Phil
Hey Wendy. Thanks for dropping by and posting. It's always cool to have the subjects of our discussions pop in now and then.
I admit, I haven't had a chance to check out your blog yet but I look forward to doing so over the weekend. I agree and have always found it interesting that the debate over game addiction, heated as it can get, always seems to come down to semantics - what is actually meant by "addiction."
Hopefully, your segment on Dr. Phil goes well and brings to light the points actually worth discussing.
Best,
Andrew Eisen
Re: Wife of SOCOM Designer Talks Game Addiction on Dr. Phil
I think i've seen that weird long-ass post before,And i recall a Fail troll doing it,And yes I think a "Game addiction" is cow shit compared to Real People Who die of addictions and problems such as Alcohol,Drugs and firearms,I bet someday this stupid lady is going to try to get the us goverment to make an ATFVG, Meaning Acohol,Tobacco,Firearms and Video games.
Im thinking her husband had a good reseason to have a game addiction or something like that.
Re: Wife of SOCOM Designer Talks Game Addiction on Dr. Phil
Ok now on another note...i personally think this person is a moron but hey i can understand her point to a certain degree...but with what she said about gaming being the same as drug addiction in a sense is bulls*** and it shows how ignorant she really is...
Why are people so stupid
Re: Wife of SOCOM Designer Talks Game Addiction on Dr. Phil
Wooohooo next post after thompson *bumps some hilary duff music* seriously Jack dude go get a life man...i mean come on after how many Years now you still wont leave us alone at Gp??? Wow someone wants to have Friends!!!!
awwww how cute...The little lawyer is scared he will lose his license....who's a good thompson?? who's a good thompson????
sorry dennis couldnt help it
Re: Wife of SOCOM Designer Talks Game Addiction on Dr. Phil
The video game industry designs its games to be physiologically addictive. We have the proof. By the way, many of you, as indicated by your many posts at any story having to do with me, apparently have a Jack Thompson Addiction, so in order to feed that wonderful beast, here's your latest fix. Have a great weekend. Jack Thompson
Re: Wife of SOCOM Designer Talks Game Addiction on Dr. Phil
Jack.. Jack.. you know you said youve never broken posting rules?
youve just done it.. AGAIN.
Re: Wife of SOCOM Designer Talks Game Addiction on Dr. Phil
Posting that bar register number while you still have it, eh?
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Re: Wife of SOCOM Designer Talks Game Addiction on Dr. Phil
"Pysiologically?" No. Just no. You don't know how they work. The developers and the gamers DO.
And "we?" Who's "we?" This is just you. You're not working with anyone.
Any pleasurable activity can become addictive. THIS is fact. In your case, too much immaturity = losing your job.
Have a nice weekend, and "life."
Re: Wife of SOCOM Designer Talks Game Addiction on Dr. Phil
"Physiological"? Are you sure you're using the right word there? Might want to consult a dictionary and make sure because as video games exist today, it's impossible to develop a physiological addiction to them.
Furthermore, do you have any credible sources to back up that claim with?
Andrew Eisen
Re: Wife of SOCOM Designer Talks Game Addiction on Dr. Phil
And still nobody cares about you, Jack Dorkshomp.
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