Digital Rights Groups Go to Court Over Secret Anti-Piracy Treaty

September 23, 2008 -

The governments of the United States, Canada, European Union, Japan and other countries are negotiating an anti-piracy agreement that could have a massive impact on digital media consumers.

And they're doing it in secret.

At issue is the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement (ACTA). As Ars Technica reports, public interest advocacy groups Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) and Public Knowledge have filed suit in federal court against the U.S. Trade Representative, a part of the executive branch. The suit is essentially a demand for information about ACTA and is based upon the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA).

Art Brodsky of Public Knowledge told Ars:

We believe they should conduct these negotiations with some transparency for what goes on, particularly when the talks are transparent to one side and not to the other (us). At a minimum, we should know how the US delegation is formulating its positions and have access to what they are doing.

Meanwhile, p2pnet reports criticism of ACTA by Canadian Internet Policy and Public Interest Clinic (CIPPIC) counsel David Fewer:

If Hollywood could order intellectual property laws for Christmas, what would they look like? This is pretty close.

Hal Halpin, president of the Entertainment Consumers Association (ECA) has also expressed concern about ACTA:

Because ECA supports the balance that must exist between the rights of copyright owners and the right of copyrighted material consumers, we do not think it wise to include any portions of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) in the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement (ACTA) currently being discussed by the US Trade Representative (USTR) and the Department of Commerce. 

 

We are concerned that any DMCA language in ACTA may cause enormous, unforeseen negative implications in US law.  That is why ECA, together with the Consumer Electronics Association, the US Internet Industry Association, Intel, Yahoo, Verizon and others, sent a memo asking the USTR to carefully consider that any discussions of “Internet issues” in ACTA be carefully circumscribed, consistent with U.S. law, and not include any portions of the DMCA.

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Re: Digital Rights Groups Go to Court Over Secret Anti-Piracy

 

*Deleted Letter from Jack*

EZK: John Bruce, my name is E. Zachary KNIGHT. I am the moderator here not Zach Fleming. Get it right when you threaten people.

Re: Digital Rights Groups Go to Court Over Secret Anti-Piracy

He meant to post E. Zachary Flaming Knight.

Really.

Re: Digital Rights Groups Go to Court Over Secret Anti-Piracy

I hope that post is saved for later record of his misconduct.

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Re: Digital Rights Groups Go to Court Over Secret Anti-Piracy

Dennis has a copy.

E. Zachary Knight
http://www.editorialgames.com
Oklahoma City Chapter of the ECA
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Re: Digital Rights Groups Go to Court Over Secret Anti-Piracy

You FAIL. You EPIC FAIL.

Re: Digital Rights Groups Go to Court Over Secret Anti-Piracy

I expect nothing but SUPREME EPIC FAIL from JT

Sortableturnip's Law: As an online discussion of video game violence grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Jack Thompson approaches 1

Re: Digital Rights Groups Go to Court Over Secret Anti-Piracy

*Deleted Letter from Jack*

EZK: John Bruce, my name is E. Zachary KNIGHT. I am the moderator here not Zach Fleming. Get it right when you threaten people.

 

ROFL Even when he tries to SLAPP someone he still screws up on a monumental scale. Classic Thompson.

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Unfortunately, the truth is – and Jack realizes this, unfortunately, as it’s a technique he’s mastered over the years – is that he can do a lot of damage in the meantime. The university in all likelihood doesn’t know who Jack really is, and won’t bother to check his credentials or if anything he’s claiming is even remotely true. They’ll take what he says at face value, assuming from his wording and threats that he’s some big shot lawyer when in truth he’s just a pissant who whines a lot. But the truth is in our litigious society, people scared to death of lawyers and being sued. He’s essentially going, “Grrr! I’m a lawyer! Fear me!” and relying that this intimidation alone will get them to kowtow to him to do what they want, figuring that the University will issue some knee-jerk response rather than go through all the hassle of actually doing some research or get their won legal team together, which would cost them both time and money they wouldn’t rather want to spend. And in the process, at best Zach’’ reputation could be damaged, at worst he could expelled, and he deserves neither.
 
This is how Jack’s operated all these years. It’s how he’s managed to get his way; by bullying and intimidation and otherwise using the law like a blunt instrument. It’s why he should be disbarred ASAP as he’s abused the privileges given to him as a lawyer, and why our legal system is in dire need of tort reform, as while Jack is the most well-known example, there are plenty of other unscrupulous lawyers who exploit the system in this way.
 
Yeah, I’m sure Jack will point to this post too. But the truth is the truth, and he can’t hide from it no matter how hard he tries.

Re: Digital Rights Groups Go to Court Over Secret Anti-Piracy

We know you are not gay, just really stupid.  And don't come here if you don't like what we say about you, then we will be less likely to talk about you in the first place.

You ARE mentally ill, and I ask that you seek a psychologist that at least one person here other htan yourself approves of to make sure you are not a threat to the well being of others.  You are paranoid as can be, which alone shows that you are mentally ill, and it start with Janet Reno.

You are far from successful, or else you wouldnt be disbarred or in the process of.  Who is letting you file anything... why can't disbarred people lose all rights to file anything without the appoval of the judge that disbars you.

I believe in freedom of speech, even if people insult me, I feel they have the right to do so.  I can just ignore what they say, and especially what they type.  If the university even acknowledges this email I would be surprised.

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Re: Digital Rights Groups Go to Court Over Secret Anti-Piracy

Your threats carry less weight than similar comments that my 7 year old could come up with.  An individual is not controlled by, or unless specifically stated, representing a job, school, religion, etc. when they make a comment or inquiry in regards to a personal belief on their part.  He asked you a question, you throw a fit and make threats.  Nobody here is scared of you.  Myself included.

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Re: Digital Rights Groups Go to Court Over Secret Anti-Piracy

SLAPP!

Re: Digital Rights Groups Go to Court Over Secret Anti-Piracy

Whichever moderator this is, I hope you'll forward the referee's report and Thompson's entry in Wikipedia to the president and dead he's (allegedly) sent this to so that they do not mistake him for someone they need to take seriously.

Oh, throw in the Janet Reno stuff for good measure.

Re: Digital Rights Groups Go to Court Over Secret Anti-Piracy

Uh, wait, this is about the user Zach that posted earlier in this topic. He's not a moderator. Stop taking drugs, Thompson.

Re: Digital Rights Groups Go to Court Over Secret Anti-Piracy

It's EZK he's referring to I think, and this is going to be fun, since a school has no right whatsoever to dictate to a student what they do with their own time, and EZK has no direct control over what people post, he can only deal with it after the fact, so basically, this is the most obvious attempt at a SLAPP lawsuit ever attempted :)

Re: Digital Rights Groups Go to Court Over Secret Anti-Piracy

That's what I figured, but EZK is not Zach. Zach posted earlier in this topic. Ugh, Jack is such a retard. Does he get EVERYTHING wrong on purpose? This is a real question. I honestly can't imagine anybody managing to not ever get anything right and not do it on purpose.

Re: Digital Rights Groups Go to Court Over Secret Anti-Piracy

I think it's time to start digging up Jack's leters to Doug Lowenstein, Japan and Rob Zelnicks' mum for Zach, that way he can show the school that crazy-mad letters with zero legible content are the norm for Thompson ;)

Re: Digital Rights Groups Go to Court Over Secret Anti-Piracy

Strauss, where the heck did I get Rob from?!?

Re: Digital Rights Groups Go to Court Over Secret Anti-Piracy

I begin to wonder why I play video games in the first place... oh yeah because I want to feel bigger than somebody!! and now they want to take that away

Jesus Jack Jones Thompson told me to do it!

Jesus Jack Jones Thompson loves you, so kill for his amusement so we can get money for the new "People's Temple of Jesus Jack Jones Thompson"

Re: Digital Rights Groups Go to Court Over Secret Anti-Piracy

When I want to fell bigger than somebody, I answer the emails I get promising a larger...

Oh, that's not what you meant. My gaming makes me confused.

Re: Digital Rights Groups Go to Court Over Secret Anti-Piracy

John Bruce "Jack" Thompson

So why does he go by Jack when it isn't part of his real name?

Re: Digital Rights Groups Go to Court Over Secret Anti-Piracy

How did I not catch on tht John Bruce is Jack Thompson... Man I am behind...  Anything else I need to know to catch me up with how far behind I am with the JT info?

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Re: Digital Rights Groups Go to Court Over Secret Anti-Piracy

Jack is a nickname for John, much the same was that Bill is a nickname for William, or Bob for Robert

Re: Digital Rights Groups Go to Court Over Secret Anti-Piracy

or how about a nickname for Richard, Dick?

Jesus Jack Jones Thompson told me to do it!

Jesus Jack Jones Thompson loves you, so kill for his amusement so we can get money for the new "People's Temple of Jesus Jack Jones Thompson"

Re: Digital Rights Groups Go to Court Over Secret Anti-Piracy

It has to do with a movie that he and his son watched that the actor Jack Thompson was in...he mentioned it on Jaablog but I can't locate the comment...

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Re: Digital Rights Groups Go to Court Over Secret Anti-Piracy

You might as well be asking why he's put porn into court filings.

Re: Digital Rights Groups Go to Court Over Secret Anti-Piracy

When did I miss that story?

Re: Digital Rights Groups Go to Court Over Secret Anti-Piracy

It was some months ago.

Re: Digital Rights Groups Go to Court Over Secret Anti-Piracy

Not a good place to hide his personal stash...

Re: Digital Rights Groups Go to Court Over Secret Anti-Piracy

I believe he felt he was making some kind of point with it, but as always, it did little more than make him look bad.

Re: Digital Rights Groups Go to Court Over Secret Anti-Piracy

If he could make money just off of making himself look bad...  Wait, doesn't he do that too... I think he might get paid for TV interviews...  They use him as an 'expert' on matters...  I think the TV stations like the rating jump of people getting to see a nut case on TV.  It is like going to the circus and seeing the bearded lady, but that is an insult to the bearded lady...

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Re: Digital Rights Groups Go to Court Over Secret Anti-Piracy

Is that his real address?  I want to send him flowers, with a get well soon card...  I figure he has been messed up for a while now, it is about time for him to get better and stop acting crazy...

 

(This place exploded while i worked and got lunch...  man...)

Re: Digital Rights Groups Go to Court Over Secret Anti-Piracy

You do that, he'll sue you and claim that you're harassing him just like he did with Penny Arcade.

Re: Digital Rights Groups Go to Court Over Secret Anti-Piracy

Like he's doing with Zack below....

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Re: Digital Rights Groups Go to Court Over Secret Anti-Piracy

I had to see who you were talking about since he goes by Zach, or EKZ for short, but yeah, I read that, and sure enough, he's pulling his usual stunt, saying that he's harassing him.  Sadly, no flowers were involved anywhere though.

Seriously, you have to wonder what goes threw Thompson's mind, actually scratch that, trying to think like Jack Thompson would make my brain explode.

Re: Digital Rights Groups Go to Court Over Secret Anti-Piracy

Zach and EZK are not the same person.

Zach is a GP reader. EZK is our comment moderator, whose name happens to be Zachary.

Re: Digital Rights Groups Go to Court Over Secret Anti-Piracy

And thats why I suggested an edit button, cause once I posted that reply, I saw that both Zach and EKZ are two different people, though of course, Thompson, being the "genius" that he is thought they were the same one, despite people saying otherwise.

Re: Digital Rights Groups Go to Court Over Secret Anti-Piracy

My kingdom for teh edit button.  Its not even even Zach.  I'll just go by EKZ and thats it, but yeah, before he deleted that letter, I read it and just rolled my eyes.

Re: Digital Rights Groups Go to Court Over Secret Anti-Piracy

So once again, the States are putting presure on Canada on how we should run ourselves? This is the MAIN resaon that weed is still "illegal" up here, and why same sex marriage was so long coming. I just wish I could honestly support someone in our election and they could do something about all this.

Re: Digital Rights Groups Go to Court Over Secret Anti-Piracy

This is like some cloak-and-dagger stuff with some very powerful people involved. In a word: Scary.

And as for Jacky Boy, he could just as well post all of his crap elsewhere, but only here will he actually get attention, so there you go. Naughty little monkey needs to get back in his cage before Dennis gets back.

I gueess this means we are at war with

? Correct me if I'm wrong but we the gamers are at war with the goverment in a sense? Someone help me out here, I'm not so sure i understand what we are fighting agsints here.

 

As for jack thompson, he's spam us, we spam him, he attack us, we attack him. But who started it? (Don't answear the question, post it in the forums for disscussion, I just wanted to put the thought out for everyone)

 

I love this site.

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Oh SNAP, we have forums?!?!  Oh... ECA...  nvm...  The people in there are freakin nuts, I'll say out here.  Well, the ones I have met in there are at least... 

I can sum it up really fast here.

Government doesnt respect the youth or the game industry because they understand neither.  We are fighting for equal respect.

Jack started it with his outlandish remarks about gamers and the game industry.

I love GP too...  Can I work for GP/ECA  I am all for a new job...  I'm a web developer, common, haha.

Which thread are we talking about this in again?  (linky linky)

Re: Digital Rights Groups Go to Court Over Secret Anti-Piracy

K a little off topic guys but I ask JT why he does this and sent him his own post and responds with this.

 

Happy to.  What you call spam I call legitimate news and comment.  You run this site as if it were some sort of pr operation for ECA, which it in effect is.  You post libelous material about me, and you stop me from responding.  Spam?  No.  It's called the truth.  You are beyond odd. 


Jack Thompson, Attorney

 

"Vice is a matter of so frightful mien,
As to be hated needs but to be seen.
Yet seen too oft, familiar with her face,
We first endure, then pity, then embrace."  Alexander Pope

 

 EZK: Don't post John Bruce's cpntact info.

Re: Digital Rights Groups Go to Court Over Secret Anti-Piracy

Zach, i learned this the hard way: Never e-mail JT. EVER.

He doesn't give a crap about 'decency.' He doesn't care what you say. He just writes it off as another threat on his life and moves on.

Re: Digital Rights Groups Go to Court Over Secret Anti-Piracy

Which just goes to demonstrate Thompson's mentality perfectly, 'It's news because I say it is, and it promotes my agenda.'

He's ten times worse than what he accuses the ECA of being, since he treats this site as though it were some kind of PR site for himself, but is too dense to even realise he's doing it.

Re: Digital Rights Groups Go to Court Over Secret Anti-Piracy

Can we track his IP address so all of his posts show up in purple?  maybe pink... not purple well do...  Ranbow colors will work too, because if I remember right, he is against homosexuals as well, but I could be wrong...  I get old kooks mixed up sometimes...  Either way, something that makes it stand out that it is him, when it is him...  somethign that would be too big of a pain for other people to replicate (purple background with pink text, there we go)

Re: Digital Rights Groups Go to Court Over Secret Anti-Piracy

The thing is, Jack swears upon his immortal soul that the ECA and the ESA are the same entity. So what he's doing there is accusing Dennis of being an industry shill.

-Gray17

Re: Digital Rights Groups Go to Court Over Secret Anti-Piracy

It wouldn't surprise me at all if he simply didn't know the difference. It's not the like facts ever get in Jack's way when he's determined to insult Dennis, or anyone/thing else for that matter.

Re: Digital Rights Groups Go to Court Over Secret Anti-Piracy

shill... isnt that a kind of shrimp?

Re: Digital Rights Groups Go to Court Over Secret Anti-Piracy

You're thinking of krill.

Re: Digital Rights Groups Go to Court Over Secret Anti-Piracy

Isn't that a movie?  No, wait, that's Krull....

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