G4's Adam Sessler Reacts to Thompson Disbarment

October 2, 2008 -

In the latest installment of Sessler's Soapboax, G4TV's Adam Sessler offers his take on the end of Jack Thompson's legal career as well as former ESA head Doug Lowenstein's claims that Thompson was a media creation...


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Re: G4's Adam Sessler Reacts to Thompson Disbarment

 Well, yes, to a certain extent, our opposition to JT was encouraging him to continue, but at the same time, he was doing the same for us. 

Also, we weren't the only ones. Fox, for instance, took JT at his word, and that's the kind of press that really fueled him. He would have been here today, gone tomorrow had it not been for people who actually listened to him. If we were the only ones giving him press, he would never have had a campaign.

Is he gone? Not entirely, but still even Fox isn't going to put him on the air again, in order to avoid bad press. No one is going to associate with JT anymore because of the disbarment. He's just going to make them look bad (or worse). He may not be able to practice law anymore, but even his campaign, which relied on SOMEBODY trusting him, is at an end. No one's going to believe him now, so it's time to turn to bigger threats.

Re: G4's Adam Sessler Reacts to Thompson Disbarment

One thing that bugged me about what Sessler said...

Something along the lines that the worst he could do was go on Fox News and be called a school shooting expert.

All I could think was... "Dude... seriously?  You honestly believe that?"

While I do agree on the human standpoint that it's bad to see someone lose their job, it's the fact that Mr. Thompson would abuse his position.

I'm also convinced that if these gaming places didn't pay attention to Jack, he would have made his own TV show or the like just to berate video games.  Gamers didn't "make" Jack Thompson... we just gave him an outlet so that he wouldn't be more threatening...   With all these debates and appearances, it was just that much more time he wasn't actually practicing law.

Re: G4's Adam Sessler Reacts to Thompson Disbarment

well i felt bad for JT losing his disgruntled form of bread and butter, he was disgruntled, but he has a family none the less. my point is, with great power comes great responsibility, and JT never understood that important principle... so whatever comes around goes around, you know what i'm saying?

Jesus Jack Jones Thompson.... is dead... (funeral udruge, followed by Celebrate :D )

Jesus Jack Jones Thompson loves you, so kill for his amusement so we can get money for the new "People's Temple of Jesus Jack Jones Thompson"

Re: G4's Adam Sessler Reacts to Thompson Disbarment

Sessler's wrong about Leland Ye though.  Sessler states that Ye takes a "more intelligent rational approach" in his legislation and rhetoric.  I disagree.  Ye sounds more rational than Thompson, but so does my dog.  But Ye repeats the same old discredited "scientific" arguments against games, is in favor of treating games not as a first amendment protected medium, and proposes clearly unconstitutional legislation which has been thrown out in every state where enacted, and further, encourages the waste of hundreds of thousands of tax payer dollars in appealing court decisions which denounce the legality of such legislation.  That Ye manages to do this without foaming at the mouth may make him more pleasant to talk to, but he has demonstrated about as much a clue as Thompson on the issue.

Re: G4's Adam Sessler Reacts to Thompson Disbarment

I disagree. Ye isn't sending judges gay porn, or sueing everybody in sight.

He may be wrong, but being wrong is alot different than not being rational.

 

 

 

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Re: G4's Adam Sessler Reacts to Thompson Disbarment

Yes, Jack was on Fox News, he was on CNN and MSNBC too, though at least with the latter he got called on his BS the last time he was there. Of course who can forget that he was on 60 Minutes!

Re: G4's Adam Sessler Reacts to Thompson Disbarment

I'm actually surprised at Adam's comments. I think he out of all people knows what Jack actually was. Yes, Jack fed off of the media. It was his addiction to fame that launched his ridiculous anti-media crusader (started off with rap music and ended with video games) and some how ended him with T.V spots. Yes and things did go downhill from there...but wait a second, to say we helped invented him? If we look at his past actions, including the harassment of Janet Reno and various Radio DJ's...this man was a serial pain in the ass long before gaming media took a shot at him. He was well established into a rude loudmouth we all know/despise well in into the 1980's.

In my opinion, the gaming media took one of their most outspoken critic, who unfortunately had the dreaded FOX News keeping their ear open to him, and tore him down constantly. Showing what kind of pety individual Jack really is. Aside from the ridiculous forum flame wars he would participate in with us and other sites, his arguements were always "I am right, my theory is now fact. All of you who think I am wrong, well your opinion is insignificant. You aren't Jack Thompson, so you don't have a say. Only Jack Thompson has a say on what is right or wrong. Hooha! Isn't this a great country or what?" We took his behaviour and his repetitive pety nature and did the unthinkable: made it known. His spot of notority was at its height at the "I am on 60 minutes, I am imporant!" fame. Soon afterward, getting removed from that case also getting reamed on NBC Hardline, G4 Attack of the Show, various debates, and interviews...all that was left was FOX News and right wing talk shows to keep Jack afloat. Damage was already done, the crackpot just continued as he did since the 1980's. Finally he got slapped for it.

Sadly I believe it would have happened whether video game media would have propped Jack as a villain or not. The difference, is Jack was long disgraced before he entered the courtroom for his disbarrment proceedings when we were all done with him. If gaming media were not involved, it may have been a little longer and his *cough* 'reputation' may have been not as tarnished. We truly gave him more power at first when we initially ignored him...

We didn't create Jack. Jack and his ego, created Jack Thompson, disgraced ex-lawyer who didn't learn manners or how to keep his mouth shut.

Re: G4's Adam Sessler Reacts to Thompson Disbarment

While what he says seems a bit understandable. I feel that this whole "Media fed him" is part of a blame game.

 

Don't we all preach in defense of our games that people are responsible for their own actions? So I can't help to feel that no one got Jack disbarred but himself.

Re: G4's Adam Sessler Reacts to Thompson Disbarment

I don't think JT's dwelling on the disbarrment issue much. If he did, he would've backed off the minute he was threatened with the disbarrment.

He's probably rallied enough local support and media exposure to transition into politics. Truth be told, he'd be less of a threat if middle-aged, middle-class Americans weren't so easy to scare with "Think about the children!" and "Video games causes crazy-ass violence!" speeches and news broadcasts.

Re: Jackhole and politics

He's already tried politics and it worked just as well as his campaigns (rap music, video games) against free speech. Read up on Janet Reno and Jack Thompson. It's the same pattern all over and over again...Jackhole against the world.

The man is a sociopathic narsistic egomaniac. He will not succeed in anything that involves interacting with others in an equal or subordinate position. He is always right, everyone else is always wrong unless they agree with him unconditionally.

-- http://pixelantes.blogspot.com/

Re: Jackhole and politics

Pretty much. Jack Thompson is not a very good "people person" and his career endeavors pretty much require that you need to be one. It's sad and hilarious to see someone that sucks at their greatest passion.

Re: G4's Adam Sessler Reacts to Thompson Disbarment

If the children are the future then I'm going to go jump off a bridge.  Plain and simple. 

Re: G4's Adam Sessler Reacts to Thompson Disbarment

While i see where Sess is coming from, i think he's downplaying FOX News and Thompson's mainstream media appearances.

sure, he was a hack to gamers, but people who watch FOX News are not exactly that demographic, are they?

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Here are we -- and yonder yawns the universe.

Re: G4's Adam Sessler Reacts to Thompson Disbarment

I don't think the Anti-game FOX news crown is such a big issue.  FOX News knows its audience is already anti-game, so they make their news as anti-game as possible.  This happened and still happens regardless of Jack Thompson.  Jack Thomspon may be used regularly on FOX news to report on games, but I don't know if he is name is well known.  I mean, if you asked 1,000 FOX random news watchers who Jack Thompson is, how many do you think would know?

Plus, given that many are anti-game with no evidence or logic behind it adn strictly out of fear, having Jack Thomson get disbarred doesn't really do much.  Thompson's disbarment is easy to spin to still be anti-game- 'Game developers stop American Freedom Award winner'.  Given how FOX has spun game material in the past, if they even mentioned Jack Thompson's dibarment, I think it would be along these lines.

Re: G4's Adam Sessler Reacts to Thompson Disbarment

FOX News is far from the only news program that is "anti-game". You're just as likely to see something against games on any other news program.

Re: G4's Adam Sessler Reacts to Thompson Disbarment

I don't doubt that all news channelsportray anti-game stories, but FOX news is by far the most dominant.  Compare old gamepolitics stories that include FOX news to other stations and you'll see that they are more prevalent.

Re: G4's Adam Sessler Reacts to Thompson Disbarment

The reasoning behind anti-game sentiment on many major news programs is fairly obvious - any old technopoly (to borrow a term from Neil Postman) on it's way down will be opposed to rising new media.  Since video games represent a very real threat to their market shares, traditional news outlets are going to be less than enthusiastic about them.  We'll have to wait and see to some extent, but it doesn't look like these minor attacks are really hurting video games all that much.  Perhaps later we'll have to deal with larger and even less grounded negative coverage.

Re: G4's Adam Sessler Reacts to Thompson Disbarment

"FOX News knows its audience is already anti-game, so they make their news as anti-game as possible."

I said this before in another thread and I have to say it again here.  This is a dangerously incorrect, or at least incomplete, perspective.

It is true that Fox is anti-game, and many who are already anti-game will choose to watch Fox News because it supports their own world view, but there are also MANY out there who are not already so predisposed against games who will watch news from any of the major networks (including Fox) without knowing what sort of filters to properly apply.  They'll see something on Fox (or CNN, or any of the others) and take it at face value.

There are MANY of these people.  Assuming that it doesn't matter what's on Fox because the only people who watch it are a lost cause already is a great way to get ambushed down the line.

Re: G4's Adam Sessler Reacts to Thompson Disbarment

I am not saying that all who watch it are a lost cause, just that a network that knows a large portion of its audience is anti-game will portray more anti-game stories.  Those who aren't already predisposed to a side of the debate aren't the one signing petitions and going to protests.  Anti gaming stories may convince some to be anti-game, but I think that a pro-game stoy will convice them otherwise just as easily. To those not predisposed the story holds little importance.  To counteract the negative from these there needs to be more pro-game stories in the mass media, not just gaming media websites.

Instead of focusing on discrediting Jack Thomspn, I think the gaming media should have focused more on getting pro-gaming news out there.

Re: G4's Adam Sessler Reacts to Thompson Disbarment

I think what your saying is that if enough people believed the bull plot they read on Fox News then they would think said laws being made in California were needed? 

 

Also I says it once I says it again.  Adam Sessler get the hell off the sinking ship that is G4 before its too late.  Captains shouldn't always go down with the ship.  The captain of the Titanic didn't know what he was doing!  

Re: G4's Adam Sessler Reacts to Thompson Disbarment

Yes he did, in fact he was set to retire soon after the Titanic made it's journey. There were many factors leading up to the ramming of the icebergs.

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